This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kilgore, Colvin, Allen, Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jZm.2ACEB/852.1 Message Board Post: Hello, I have been researching the Kilgore name for two years now and my Great Great Grandmother was Elizabeth Allen born Aug 29, 1819; married Stephen Kilgore (son of Hiram Kilgore & Rebecca Renfro); and was the daughter of William Allen & Margaret Dougherty born Feb. 22, 1800. I myself have also been trying to find out more info about the Allen name, but haven't been seriously looking because I have been working more with the Kilgore name. Look forward to hearing back from you. Cathy Kilgore Gordon iamcatz@hotmail.com

Thank you for the welcome. I can hardly believe that I have already been contacted, not only by so many nice "relatives" , but by a blood cousin. He has information for me about my great grandparents. I am thrilled as I had nothing other a state and county and my grandparents names. Thank you again for the warm welcome. Carolove Dknova@aol.com wrote: >Welcome to the Kilgore Clan, Carolove. I am sure you will find this one >great, informative and very funny at times. It is actually a very large >family that laugh and cry together. I am sure that you will find this board a >great one. > >Donna > > >==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== >"How can a tangled web that appears so open be >so impregnable when we try to pierce it as when >we delve into genealogy!" -Jerry A. Penley- > > __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

Hi Cousin Donna thanks for keeping us in your prayers, girls are doing well Heather just came back tonight from Disney world (she went on vacation with her dad. she had a great time and says hi to everyone on the list cousin Marie

Jane you are in our prayers here, we all hope your husband gets well soon Cousin Marie

Jane, our hearts and thoughts are with you, along with our prayers. Annie G., Fort Worth

Welcome to the Kilgore Clan, Carolove. I am sure you will find this one great, informative and very funny at times. It is actually a very large family that laugh and cry together. I am sure that you will find this board a great one. Donna

Would anybody have any ideas about how I could check for the marriage record of William KILGORE and Rebecca WYERS sometimes around 1882 in OK? Davine

Hello Carolove, Welcome to the KILGORE List. Guess what your grandmother, Pernie Elisabeth KILGORE was my father's sister or my aunt. Believe it or not her full name was Minerva Calpernia Elizabeth KILGORE. We just called her Aunt Pernie. Your great grandfather was James KILGORE. James was married first to Susan Manda HAMILTON ROMINE and second Elizabeth JACKSON BURTON. James brought with him 6 children, Elizabeth brought at least 3 BURTONs and they brought 6 more KILGOREs into the world. That's 15 that I know of. No wonder he died before 50 years of age. E-mail me privately and we can trade incormation and ger to know each other. James L. Kilgore 5255 Secretariat Run Brooksville, FL 34609-0339 jkilgore@innet.com

HI,, she did get it.. She just wrote me to tell me about the connection. She is sure excited about all her new family! Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Meyer Kilgore" <gkilgore@primenet.com> To: <KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Carolove has connected. > Jim could you let me know if she contacts you. There seems to be a problem > with her email addy and I am not sure that she got your message. > > Gail > > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== > ANY COMPLAINTS email to KILGORE-admin@rootsweb.com, NOT to list. >

I would like to give a HUGE welcome to all of the new members on the boards. It is so fantastic to see all the new faces around the area. Now I must agree with the other Carol to say watch out for our Randy. Yes he is a trickster but a fun one at that and we all enjoy him. Have a great day everyone. Dd

Jane, please know that we are joining the others of this wonderful Kilgore list in offering prayer for you and your family during your time of need. We pray that the good Lord will give each of you the strength and love during this time. Your Lisbon, La. cousins Jim and Sharon Kilgore ----- Original Message ----- From: To: KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 8/14/01 6:01:26 PM Subject: [KILGORE] Prayers needed Hi, My husband, Paul was in a auto accident on Thursday night. He has been in intensive care with collapsed lung and every rib broken on the left side. He has been in very critical condition but is improving a little. Please say a prayer for him. He is in a very critical state and can turn either way....This is the first time I have left him and will be back there in a few minutes. Know I have to care for myself in order to care for him.....Prayers are greatly needed and appreciated. ..Thanks so very much.. Your cousin from the La. Killgores Jane Holtmann ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== Check out the Kilgore boards at: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/kil/Kilgore http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/kil/KilgoreBibl http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/kil/KilgoreBios --- Sharon Kilgore --- jskilgore@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

Jim could you let me know if she contacts you. There seems to be a problem with her email addy and I am not sure that she got your message. Gail

Carol and all the Kilgore families: I totally agree with Carol's message on why we do family research. I've recently finished my husband's line and have given it to his family not truly knowing how they would feel about it (although they have helped with it in small ways). My fears have been greatly eased as each one was mesmerized as they turned page after page and began to realize just where their roots really were and what the ancestors had endured to pave the way for each of us today. The two years I spent researching, compiling and writing was definitely worth every minute I spent. My next project is to do the family research for my mother and father. So I guess I'm set for another two to four years at least. I can honestly say it has been one of the most rewarding things I have ever done. And, yet I'm already collecting more information to go in my next book for my husbands line. Sharon Kilgore ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol To: KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 8/15/01 1:13:42 PM Subject: [KILGORE] Why we do family research I was sent this today by a friend and wanted to share it with all of you. It brought tears to my eyes and I said YES! This is why I do it! Carol We Are the Chosen (The Tribal Scribes) My feelings are that in each family there is one who seems called to find the ancestors. To put flesh on their bones and make them live again... to tell the family story and to feel that somehow they know and approve. To me, doing genealogy is not a cold gathering of facts but, instead, breathing life into all who have gone before. We are the storytellers of the tribe. All tribes have one. We have been called, as it were, by our genes. Those who have gone before cry out to us: tell our story. So, we do. In finding them, we somehow find ourselves. How many graves have I stood before now and cried? I have lost count. How many times have I told the ancestors, "You have a wonderful family and you would be proud of us?" How many times have I walked up to a grave and felt somehow there was love there for me. I cannot say. It goes beyond just documenting facts. It goes to who am I and why do I do the things I do? It goes to seeing a cemetery about to be lost forever to weeds and indifference and saying, I can't let this happen. The bones here are bones of my bone and flesh of my flesh. It goes to doing something about it. It goes to pride in what our ancestors were able to accomplish. How they contributed to what we are today. It goes to respecting their hardships and losses, their never giving in or giving up, their resoluteness to go on and build a life for their family. It goes to deep pride that they fought to make and keep us a Nation. It goes to a deep and immense understanding that they were doing it for us. That we might be born who we are. That we might remember them. So we do. With love and caring and scribing each fact of their existence, because we are them and they are us. So, as a scribe called, I tell the story of my family. It is up to that one called in the next generation to answer the call and take his/her place in the long line of family storytellers. That is why I do my family genealogy, and that is what calls those young and old to step up and put flesh on the bones. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Author Unknown ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== Check out the Kilgore boards at: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/kil/KilgoreDeed http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/kil/KilgoreObits http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/kil/KilgorePens http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/kil/KilgoreWill --- Sharon Kilgore --- jskilgore@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

HI Carolove! Welcome to the list! You will never find a more funny, loving, caring and in general all around wonderful family as here! Be careful of Randy,, he is the ring leader of the tricksters here! (hehehe OOPS,, did he see that??) Be sure to wear your purple boxer shorts and foil hat when posting to this group, you never know when you will need them! (I will explain that in a private email to you! heheheheeh) I am the other Carol you have been chatting with family from Walker. AL You just thought I was nuts! Wait till you have been here a while! LOL you will see I come by it naturally,, the gene pool is close here! LOL WELCOME! Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Meyer Kilgore" <gkilgore@primenet.com> To: <KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:38 PM Subject: [KILGORE] More about new member > Then she adds: > > Oops, Sorry, I forgot to say that I am the daughter of Martha Bernice > Rutledge Smith of Jasper, Al and James Woodrow Smith of Prospect, Al. > Mother was the third daughter of Ed A. Rutledge and Pernie Elizabeth > Kilgore. > > Gail Meÿer Kilgore > Casa Grande, AZ > > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== > "How can a tangled web that appears so open be > so impregnable when we try to pierce it as when > we delve into genealogy!" -Jerry A. Penley- >

Roger Kilgore ironduke@bellsouth.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <DdHober@aol.com> To: <KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Needing Any Help I Can Get > I would like to invite the new members to join our private Myfamily.com > website. In this website anyone can post pictures, add their history and so > much more. To many things to list here. > If you wish to be included in this website send me your email address and > your name, first and last, so I can add your name to the list. Once I do > this a password will be sent to your email address. > The site is private so we must ask that you do not give out your password. > There are a lot of pictures of some of us on the list, lots of old and new > pics as well. Including a wonderful picture of the Kilgore fort. > have a great day all. Dd > > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== > Our Kilgore List archives may be searched at > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > Hi Dd: I would like to become a member of Myfamily.com. E-mail; ironduke@bellsouth.net Name: Roger Kilgore

Then she adds: Oops, Sorry, I forgot to say that I am the daughter of Martha Bernice Rutledge Smith of Jasper, Al and James Woodrow Smith of Prospect, Al. Mother was the third daughter of Ed A. Rutledge and Pernie Elizabeth Kilgore. Gail Meÿer Kilgore Casa Grande, AZ

I just added another new member to our list. She is Carolove, she says, Well, about all I know is that my grandmother was Pernie Elizabeth Kilgore,dob 9/19/1882, Walker County,Al; dod 8/16/1972, Orange County,Tx Married Ed A Rutledge, dob 1881 dod 1951, Jasper,AL. Both are buried at Oak Hill Cemetery in Jasper,AL My grandparents owned property in Jasper that was sold to my father's brother in Jasper,AL. So I may be able to get a record of title, which would help as my aunt thinks the property belonged to my g-grandparents on the Rutledge side. But as the Walker County courthouse burned 4 times, finding anything isn't easy. My grandparents had 2 boys: William dob 4/12/1903 dod 3/22/1946, Edgar ( no more on that one)both boys are deceased. 8 girls: Bertha, Jean Lorene, Martha Bernice, Elizabeth, Annis Lucille, Mildred Eloise, Nellie Margarite, and Thelma Tommylou. Betha, Jean, Bernice, and Mildred are deceased. I know my grandfather had sisters: Lillian who married a Smith another sister, Daisey married a Childers My grandmother had several brothers and sisters. I think her mother or father brought children from a previous marriage. She had sisters: Verlie and Cora and at least three brothers Wiley, Jack and Sam, who, I believe owned a grocery store in Jasper, Al. Verlie and Cora (maybe Corey) married brothers named Brakefield. My parents are both deceased and the surving sibblings are not exactly forth coming with information. Perhaps they don't know or can't remember. An aunt said yesterday that she was mailing me copies of some of the old bible pages that might have information. I am hopeful that I can find maiden names for either grandparents mother. I live in Utah. Welcome to the Kilgore mail list and hope you find some cousins. Gail Meÿer Kilgore Casa Grande, AZ

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I was sent this today by a friend and wanted to share it with all of you. It brought tears to my eyes and I said YES! This is why I do it! Carol We Are the Chosen (The Tribal Scribes) My feelings are that in each family there is one who seems called to find the ancestors. To put flesh on their bones and make them live again... to tell the family story and to feel that somehow they know and approve. To me, doing genealogy is not a cold gathering of facts but, instead, breathing life into all who have gone before. We are the storytellers of the tribe. All tribes have one. We have been called, as it were, by our genes. Those who have gone before cry out to us: tell our story. So, we do. In finding them, we somehow find ourselves. How many graves have I stood before now and cried? I have lost count. How many times have I told the ancestors, "You have a wonderful family and you would be proud of us?" How many times have I walked up to a grave and felt somehow there was love there for me. I cannot say. It goes beyond just documenting facts. It goes to who am I and why do I do the things I do? It goes to seeing a cemetery about to be lost forever to weeds and indifference and saying, I can't let this happen. The bones here are bones of my bone and flesh of my flesh. It goes to doing something about it. It goes to pride in what our ancestors were able to accomplish. How they contributed to what we are today. It goes to respecting their hardships and losses, their never giving in or giving up, their resoluteness to go on and build a life for their family. It goes to deep pride that they fought to make and keep us a Nation. It goes to a deep and immense understanding that they were doing it for us. That we might be born who we are. That we might remember them. So we do. With love and caring and scribing each fact of their existence, because we are them and they are us. So, as a scribe called, I tell the story of my family. It is up to that one called in the next generation to answer the call and take his/her place in the long line of family storytellers. That is why I do my family genealogy, and that is what calls those young and old to step up and put flesh on the bones. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Author Unknown

Jane, You and Paul will be in our prayers during this most critical time for a speedy recovery and strength to endure. Just remember God does not put more on our shoulders than He knows we can bear. Sincerely, Shirley Kilgore Knight -----Original Message----- From: Memeellajane@aol.com [mailto:Memeellajane@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 10:01 PM To: KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KILGORE] Prayers needed Hi, My husband, Paul was in a auto accident on Thursday night. He has been in intensive care with collapsed lung and every rib broken on the left side. He has been in very critical condition but is improving a little. Please say a prayer for him. He is in a very critical state and can turn either way....This is the first time I have left him and will be back there in a few minutes. Know I have to care for myself in order to care for him.....Prayers are greatly needed and appreciated. ..Thanks so very much.. Your cousin from the La. Killgores Jane Holtmann ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== Check out the Kilgore boards at: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/kil/Kilgore http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/kil/KilgoreBibl http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/kil/KilgoreBios