I have the pleasure of welcoming our cousin, who is new to the Kilgore Board. Delores (Tootie, Kilgore), Nistler. Tootie's grandfather and my grandfather were brothers. She was raised in NE, while as you know I was raised in IA and then on to NY, for me. Tootie lives in Tucson, AZ. She will see me very soon, as I am flying into Phoenix to be with Jack and Gail. A few cousins of ours will be in AZ. also, so sounds like we will have a mini reunion. I am getting very excited, and can hardly stand waiting until the end of this month! Welcome again Tootie. Donna

Welcome Toodie, my name is Tammy and I'm here to tell ya, you're in for the time of your life...This is a fun list... Always, Tammy Tinney Caine

We have another cousin down here. He lives south of Tucson and he is right out of the York Co., PA Kilgore's. He was here doing some training while in the service and knew he was coming back to AZ. So when he got out of the service he went back to York Co. and worked the family farm and then retired here a few years ago. He raises horses and I guess he worked with race horses back in PA. Gail

Randy - I have no wish to bring down the wrath of both sides of the debate upon my head. However, the Scottish, Irish question was discussed by John K. Johnston in Clan Kilgore and can be also looked up in the encyclopedia. He says the name Kilgour was an ancient parish in Fifeshire, Scotland, which means to me that the origin of "Kilgore" is Scottish. He says hundreds of Scotchmen were transplanted by James I from 1606 to 1610 and later by Cromwell, "who adopted this menthod of colonizing the Emerald Isle with Protestants, in order to keep Catholic Ireland in subjection." Many of the Irish landowners had fled the country and these lands were populated with Scots who held themselves above the Irish, did not intermarry, and no matter how many generations were born in Ireland, did not consider themselves Irish. This is the root of the "troubles" in Ulster to this day. Johnston further says, "The term "Scotch-Irish" seems to have come into general use since our Revolution, having been first taken as a race-name by many individuals of a very large class of people in the United States, descendants of emigrants of Scottish blood from the north of Ireland." Around 1720 when the tides of politics in Ireland turned against these Protestant settlers, they left Ireland in tremendous numbers and came to America. My neighbor when I was growing up was a from northern Ireland. He considered himself an Orangeman (from William of Orange, don't ask me about that, look it up) and was scornful of the Catholic Irish who wore green. I have many quarrels with Johnston, but it seems this is pretty good history. Rita >From: Rkkcak@aol.com >Reply-To: KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com >To: KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [KILGORE] Genealogy Debate: Scottish, Irish or both? >Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:56:34 EST > >Dear Kilgore gang, > >All my life I've lived under the banner of an Irish heritage, boldly >celebrating St. Patrick's Day as boisterously as I celebrate the Fourth of >July. I've railed in letters, speeches and columns about the cowardly, >violent acts of the Irish on both sides of "the Troubles", thinking I was >speaking as a distant insider. > >Unfortunately, if I understand this board correctly, I've been living a >delusional life (okay, stop your chuckling!). > >So, with a particularly earnest request to Vicki and Jerry to weigh in, >will >somebody tell me if I should be spending this Friday sliding down a rainbow >hunting for that pesky leprechaun, or donning my kilt and pulling out the >clubs for a bonny run at the local links? > >Said humorously, but with sincere interest. Are we Scottish, Irish or both? > >"Top O' The Mornin' To Ya'" >Randy > OR > >"FORE!" >Randy > > >==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== >ANY COMPLAINTS email to KILGORE-admin@rootsweb.com, NOT to list. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

In a message dated 3/12/02 5:17:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, russell@ivwnet.com writes: > I was at Kelly (Security) also now gone...Sam Speaking of Kelly, my Grandfather Howard Kilgore was stationed there back in the late 1930's. That is where he met his first born for the first time (Edith Walker was wife #3). Grandpa was married to Pearl Roberts and for whatever reason she left him but never told him she was with child. How he found out was that someoen said there was a young man on base that looked just like him. That would ahve been Lawerence Roberts. According to my mother who caguely remembers them visiting was that Lawerence and wife had three boys possibly a couple years older at the time, ages about 15 down to 11 or 12. Here is what my Uncle passed down to me: Howard Killgore was US Army at that time they were still in Cavalry divisions. Played in the army band, several instruments. He never liked the physical part. At that time (the 30's) there was Navy and Army; marines and air force came a bit later i believe. He was stationed at Kelly Field, San Antonio, still an active base as far as I know. DdHober <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/d2hober/civilwar.htm">Civil War Resources</A> <A HREF="aol://4344:167.resou2.35202211.665264872/">Genealogy on AOL -- Keyword: Roots</A> <A HREF="www.Genealogyforum.com">Genealogyforum.com</A>

In '54, if I remember correctly, Pop was stationed in San Antonio. My sister was born there. I was born at Springfield, Mass. and my brothers were born in Ga. We are all AF brats. haha. Linda Robert W Baker <bbusna53@juno.com> wrote: Hi Linda, Thanks for the memories. Left Biloxi in '54 to Alexandria,La then England AFB. Perhaps your father served at Keesler in '54 ? Have a wonderful day, Cuz Bob On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 04:45:07 -0800 (PST) linda bond writes: > > Well, hi Cuz Bob, > I don't know how long it has been since you were here, but you > probably would not recognize the place. Casinos everywhere. Gus > Stevens was torn down many years ago. A surf shop is there now. My > e-mail is lyndaka99@yahoo if you would like to answer back from the > list. My father was in the AF and retired from Keesler. > Thanks for mailing me. I don't post much so I really don't > correspond, other than sending in prayers for family members in > need. Hope you choose to have a great day. I will do the same. > Linda Killgore Bond Biloxi > > Robert W Baker wrote: Hi Cuz Linda Kilgore > Bond, > I'm soft spoken Cuz Bob, living in Calif. When I saw your "Biloxi" > address, I remembered my days at Keesler AFB back in the early '50s. > I > was married while there and have fond memories > of the Gulf Coast. Is Gus Stevens Restuarant and Club still there? > Sorry for the non gen post. > Cuz Bob > Mt View, Ca > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== > Our Kilgore List archives may be searched at > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== > Our Kilgore List archives may be searched at > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== You are about to enter the KILGORE ZONE! Beware of the wit and the zany members and their doings! But they are ALL family! --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email!

BTW, England AFB is also among the missing...the last round of cuts took them out of circulation...I think almost all of the bases I was stationed at are history now...in '54 I was at Kelly (Security) also now gone...Sam At 09:48 AM 3/12/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Hi Linda, >Thanks for the memories. Left Biloxi in '54 to Alexandria,La then >England AFB. Perhaps your father served at Keesler in '54 ? >Have a wonderful day, >Cuz Bob >On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 04:45:07 -0800 (PST) linda bond <lyndaka99@yahoo.com> >writes: > > > > Well, hi Cuz Bob, > > I don't know how long it has been since you were here, but you > > probably would not recognize the place. Casinos everywhere. Gus > > Stevens was torn down many years ago. A surf shop is there now. My > > e-mail is lyndaka99@yahoo if you would like to answer back from the > > list. My father was in the AF and retired from Keesler. > > Thanks for mailing me. I don't post much so I really don't > > correspond, other than sending in prayers for family members in > > need. Hope you choose to have a great day. I will do the same. > > Linda Killgore Bond Biloxi > > > > Robert W Baker <bbusna53@juno.com> wrote: Hi Cuz Linda Kilgore > > Bond, > > I'm soft spoken Cuz Bob, living in Calif. When I saw your "Biloxi" > > address, I remembered my days at Keesler AFB back in the early '50s. > > I > > was married while there and have fond memories > > of the Gulf Coast. Is Gus Stevens Restuarant and Club still there? > > Sorry for the non gen post. > > Cuz Bob > > Mt View, Ca > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > > > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== > > Our Kilgore List archives may be searched at > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > > > > > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== > > Our Kilgore List archives may be searched at > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > >==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== >You are about to enter the KILGORE ZONE! Beware of the wit and the zany >members and their doings! But they are ALL family!

Lets go out and chase the little old round white thing. and then drink some green ice tea. roy in twin falls Rkkcak@aol.com wrote: > Dear Kilgore gang, > > All my life I've lived under the banner of an Irish > heritage, boldly > celebrating St. Patrick's Day as boisterously as I > celebrate the Fourth of > July. I've railed in letters, speeches and columns > about the cowardly, > violent acts of the Irish on both sides of "the > Troubles", thinking I was > speaking as a distant insider. > > Unfortunately, if I understand this board correctly, > I've been living a > delusional life (okay, stop your chuckling!). > > So, with a particularly earnest request to Vicki and > Jerry to weigh in, will > somebody tell me if I should be spending this Friday > sliding down a rainbow > hunting for that pesky leprechaun, or donning my > kilt and pulling out the > clubs for a bonny run at the local links? > > Said humorously, but with sincere interest. Are we > Scottish, Irish or both? > > "Top O' The Mornin' To Ya'" > Randy > OR > > "FORE!" > Randy > > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== > ANY COMPLAINTS email to KILGORE-admin@rootsweb.com, > NOT to list. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Anyone know anything about this lady? Also, I saw George Killgore, horticulturist on HGTV the other day. Is he related to anyone on the list? g > Hello, > My mother attended this school, in North Denver. She had a sewing teacher by > the name of MS Kilgore. The teacher was single. The timeframe would be the > 1930's , any connection to you? I found your email address along with a Mary > Saban on a site about AHGP PROject. > Thanks in advance, > J Magee > Colo. >

Randy, In doing genealogy for several years (how many, I ain't sayin'), I've found several lines where a branch of the line went to Ireland, while another branch remained in Scotland, or England. So, it is quite likely that some lines of KILGORE do, in fact, have Irish roots, while others are (more or less) Scot. My recommendation is that you continue to do as you have in the past, until such time as your original information is either proven or disproven. Family traditions usually have at least a small grain of truth to them.

Heh, I am doing great tonight. Have you tried to talk on the phone and have a husband who wants to know if you have the oven turned on so that he can have his cookies before he goes to bed? I was trying to talk to Donna and Jack was worried about his cookies... So, he is in bed and I just goofed big time on our new member. She was a Kilgore before she got married, now she is a Nistler..;-)) Sorry about that Toodie!! Gail Meÿer Kilgore Casa Grande, AZ

Hi, I have added Delores Kilgore, Toodie as she likes to be called. She is of our line, Thomas Kilgore, Cecil Co., MD. Toodie lives in Tucson, AZ. Please welcome her to the list. Gail Meÿer Kilgore Casa Grande, AZ

Dear Kilgore gang, All my life I've lived under the banner of an Irish heritage, boldly celebrating St. Patrick's Day as boisterously as I celebrate the Fourth of July. I've railed in letters, speeches and columns about the cowardly, violent acts of the Irish on both sides of "the Troubles", thinking I was speaking as a distant insider. Unfortunately, if I understand this board correctly, I've been living a delusional life (okay, stop your chuckling!). So, with a particularly earnest request to Vicki and Jerry to weigh in, will somebody tell me if I should be spending this Friday sliding down a rainbow hunting for that pesky leprechaun, or donning my kilt and pulling out the clubs for a bonny run at the local links? Said humorously, but with sincere interest. Are we Scottish, Irish or both? "Top O' The Mornin' To Ya'" Randy OR "FORE!" Randy

Hi Linda, Thanks for the memories. Left Biloxi in '54 to Alexandria,La then England AFB. Perhaps your father served at Keesler in '54 ? Have a wonderful day, Cuz Bob On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 04:45:07 -0800 (PST) linda bond <lyndaka99@yahoo.com> writes: > > Well, hi Cuz Bob, > I don't know how long it has been since you were here, but you > probably would not recognize the place. Casinos everywhere. Gus > Stevens was torn down many years ago. A surf shop is there now. My > e-mail is lyndaka99@yahoo if you would like to answer back from the > list. My father was in the AF and retired from Keesler. > Thanks for mailing me. I don't post much so I really don't > correspond, other than sending in prayers for family members in > need. Hope you choose to have a great day. I will do the same. > Linda Killgore Bond Biloxi > > Robert W Baker <bbusna53@juno.com> wrote: Hi Cuz Linda Kilgore > Bond, > I'm soft spoken Cuz Bob, living in Calif. When I saw your "Biloxi" > address, I remembered my days at Keesler AFB back in the early '50s. > I > was married while there and have fond memories > of the Gulf Coast. Is Gus Stevens Restuarant and Club still there? > Sorry for the non gen post. > Cuz Bob > Mt View, Ca > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== > Our Kilgore List archives may be searched at > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== > Our Kilgore List archives may be searched at > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Well, hi Cuz Bob, I don't know how long it has been since you were here, but you probably would not recognize the place. Casinos everywhere. Gus Stevens was torn down many years ago. A surf shop is there now. My e-mail is lyndaka99@yahoo if you would like to answer back from the list. My father was in the AF and retired from Keesler. Thanks for mailing me. I don't post much so I really don't correspond, other than sending in prayers for family members in need. Hope you choose to have a great day. I will do the same. Linda Killgore Bond Biloxi Robert W Baker <bbusna53@juno.com> wrote: Hi Cuz Linda Kilgore Bond, I'm soft spoken Cuz Bob, living in Calif. When I saw your "Biloxi" address, I remembered my days at Keesler AFB back in the early '50s. I was married while there and have fond memories of the Gulf Coast. Is Gus Stevens Restuarant and Club still there? Sorry for the non gen post. Cuz Bob Mt View, Ca ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== Our Kilgore List archives may be searched at http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email!

Hi Cuz Linda Kilgore Bond, I'm soft spoken Cuz Bob, living in Calif. When I saw your "Biloxi" address, I remembered my days at Keesler AFB back in the early '50s. I was married while there and have fond memories of the Gulf Coast. Is Gus Stevens Restuarant and Club still there? Sorry for the non gen post. Cuz Bob Mt View, Ca ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Thank you Theresa, this week end I will get the pictures out and scatter them across my bed and try to match names. Have you ever heard of a Annistine Kilgore? I have several pics. of her. I do not have a clue who any of these people are. I have several graveside pics with only the initials on the gravestones. Strange. But I guess that is the way they wanted it. Once again thanks. Maybe you can help me get past this brick wall. Linda Therese K <therese52@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Linda, Sorry for the delay in responding...been working long hours. Yes, please email me if you find a connection. So far I have found one cousin and she is searching also. Her Great Grandfather (William Sterling Kilgore) and mine (James Willy Kilgore)were brothers. Look forward to hearing from you. Therese Kilgore From: linda bond Reply-To: KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com To: KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Roll Call Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 04:15:39 -0800 (PST) Theresa, I think some of the names you have on your roll call might be people I am looking for. My ggf John (James) W. Killgore's last known address was in Anniston. I am still seaching for info on these people. I want to go through all my pictures first. I know I have picture of some of the people you named. After I get the names sorted out, may I e-mail you? Thanks, Linda Killgore Bond in Biloxi _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== Our Kilgore List archives may be searched at http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email!

Eunice Chapmond - Kilgore wrote: > Shucks, it weren't nuthin . > We were in the process of sending in recipes for a cook book at the time. > Some of the people were argueing that we had to much chat , prayers , humor > and stuff like that on the list instead of genealogy . And I just made up > the Kilgore Stew Recipe to try to get them to quit argueing. And it worked. > Of course the ones that were gripping, I don't think are on the list > anymore. Just glad everyone likes it. > God Bless. Eunice > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Dknova@aol.com> > To: <KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 3:25 PM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Kilgore Genealogy Stew > > > Hi to every one: > > > > I said it when it was first posted, and I still say the same thing. > > Eunice that has to be the best stew that has ever been created. > > A wonderful person had to be the one that created and then posted > > it for us to have. > > Thank you Eunice for the recipe. > > > > Love; > > Donna > > > > > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== > > Our Kilgore List archives may be searched at > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== > "How can a tangled web that appears so open be > so impregnable when we try to pierce it as when > we delve into genealogy!" -Jerry A. Penley- Thanks Eunice for the poem. I remember when you first put it on the internet. Thank you Roy In Fort Worth

Shucks, it weren't nuthin . We were in the process of sending in recipes for a cook book at the time. Some of the people were argueing that we had to much chat , prayers , humor and stuff like that on the list instead of genealogy . And I just made up the Kilgore Stew Recipe to try to get them to quit argueing. And it worked. Of course the ones that were gripping, I don't think are on the list anymore. Just glad everyone likes it. God Bless. Eunice ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dknova@aol.com> To: <KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Kilgore Genealogy Stew > Hi to every one: > > I said it when it was first posted, and I still say the same thing. > Eunice that has to be the best stew that has ever been created. > A wonderful person had to be the one that created and then posted > it for us to have. > Thank you Eunice for the recipe. > > Love; > Donna > > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== > Our Kilgore List archives may be searched at > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Hi to every one: I said it when it was first posted, and I still say the same thing. Eunice that has to be the best stew that has ever been created. A wonderful person had to be the one that created and then posted it for us to have. Thank you Eunice for the recipe. Love; Donna