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    1. [KILGORE] Hello From Boston
    2. Sheryl Twombly- Holden
    3. Hello Cousins, I haven't been very active with my email writing; however, I do read the messages that you all add to this list. It feels good to feel some type of connection to my cousins that live all over the country. I am of the New England Kilgores, descended from Joseph Killgore. Please if anyone out there has this line please let me know. Randy I still would love to meet you since I live in Boston and I know which church you are connected to. Let's do coffee on the Boston Common and take a picture for the cousins. By the way I would love to be re-invited to the Kilgore wagon train family site. I was on there when I lived in FLA. Have a grateful day, all! Sheryl --------------------------------------------------------- Get your free web based email at: http://www.paxemail.com

    04/04/2002 02:02:34
    1. [KILGORE] Hello From Boston
    2. Sheryl Twombly- Holden
    3. Hello Cousins, I haven't been very active with my email writing; however, I do read the messages that you all add to this list. It feels good to feel some type of connection to my cousins that live all over the country. I am of the New England Kilgores, descended from Joseph Killgore. Please if anyone out there has this line please let me know. Randy I still would love to meet you since I live in Boston and I know which church you are connected to. Let's do coffee on the Boston Common and take a picture for the cousins. By the way I would love to be re-invited to the Kilgore wagon train family site. I was on there when I lived in FLA. Have a grateful day, all! Sheryl --------------------------------------------------------- Get your free web based email at: http://www.paxemail.com

    04/04/2002 02:02:15
    1. [KILGORE] Things
    2. Gail Meyer Kilgore
    3. I am going to post this email that I got from this man who has tried to subscribe to the mail list and I have refused to sub him. He presents a good story and when you contact him he tells you the price that he is selling the information for. I had contacted him on another line and he said that he photocopies these papers and sells them. He was charging like $25.00 for photocopies. I do not want you to maybe loose out on something because of my feelings that this man is using the mailing lists to pad his pockets. I have not subbed him to the list and I won't but I will post his message and then the ball is in your hands. Gail, I am including the following e-mail and if you want the list to have it send it through. If not, thats fine. On May 27th John Giacoletti and I travel to Northern Ireland to begin a three week trip to research those families who defended Derry during the great siege. While rootsweb claims to have in excess of 20,000 surname lists we are interested in less than one hundred. That is the approximate number of families we have found that have roots both at Derry and King's Mountain and it is the migration of these families from Ulster to the Carolinas by way of Pennsylvania, Virgina and other places that we wish to explore. I could not be happier with my travelling companion who by all accounts is a scholar. John and I both attended the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He received a M.A there in 17th Century British literature and for two years was a Wilson Library Fellow and assistant to the Curator of Rare Books. For his thesis he did a manuscript attribution study and gained great skill in reading the Elizabethan hand. I was a business major and am included on this trip because I drive well on the left side of the road!! In order to help the researcher gain a better understanding of his or her Ulster roots three documents have been offered to the lists during the past few months. The first and by all accounts the most popular, has been the thesis by Professor James W. Hagy entitled, "Castle's Woods: Frontier Virginia Settlement, 1769-1799 published 1966 at East Tennessee St. University. The importance of Castle's Woods is twofold. First, it had its day of importance as a stepping stone to the West and secondly, it is important as a case study of the American frontier. I actually located Professor Hagy a month or so ago, thirty-seven years after he wrote this thesis and had a nice conversation with him. The second item offered was a two book set by the Reverend Alexander Lecky; "The Laggan and its Presbyterianism" and "In the Days of the Laggan Presbytery" published in Belfast 1905 and 1908. The Laggan is the area between the river Foyle and the upper reaches of Lough Swilly, and extending in one direction from Lifford to Letterkenny. It formed the most productive and desireable portion of the ancient territory of Tyrconnell. These books represent the first published source of early settlers (Presbyterian elders) arranged by Parish and TOWNLAND. To know who sat in the pew next to you is really exciting if you are researching allied families of your direct line. I will not list all the names of the people listed in Lecky's books except to say that if I send this post to your list it is because a person with the same surname is listed as an elder in the Appendix. The last and most detailed offering is titled, "A History of the Siege of Londonderry and Defence of Enniskillen in 1688 and 1689, with Historical Poetry and Biographical Notes, & by the Reverend John Graham, M.A., Rector of Migilligan, in the Diocese of Derry. The Battles of the Boyne, Athlone, and Aughrim, the Siege and Capitulation of Limmerick, by Lord McCaulay., Toronto, McClear & Publishers, 1869. What a title!! They don't write em like that any more. I sacrificed my copy to the copy machine as it was in poor condition and now it is for all purposes destroyed, but it copied really well. From the forward we read the following: "In bringing out a new edition of Mr. Graham's narrative of the Siege of Derry, and enhancing its value by descriptions from Lord McCaulay's graphic pen, the publishers conceive that they are conferring a benefit upon the reading public of Canada-for the events which these pages record are such as we do not willingly let die. Apart altogether from the political and religious aspects of the question, the romance of history never had a fairer theme. Truth is proverbially stranger than fiction, and never did the all-exiting elements of truth gather in sterner compression than around these memorable hundred days. What fiction ever imagined excitements and sensations more thrilling? and yet they are no morbid fancies of the distempered brain, but events which actually happened, events from whose enactment and results, the destinies of a nation were changed." I will keep sending these documents to as many people as want them up until May 1st. Contact me at cscunc@aol.com for details. Upon our return all findings will be posted to our website (under construction) and the lists will be notified. It is not possible to remain on all of the lists all of the time so feel free to contact us at cscunc@aol.com if you have any specific questions. Thanks to those people who sent us e-mails so far with their family lines that tie to Derry and King's Mountain. Regards, Robert Cowan John Giacoletti Then I guess since he sent me this info, he must have figured that he qualified to join the list. The Castle's Woods area of southwest Virginia is full of Kilgore's and Cowan's most of whom are related. My 6th great grandfather Samuel Cowan was killed by Indians on the Clinch in 1776 and is featured in Hagy's thesis along with many of the Kilgore's. Thanks, Robert Cowan 5th great grandfather Robert Cowan fought at King's Mountain 4th great grandfather Major John Cowan, early settler of Franklin Co. Tn. 3rd great grandfather John Cowan, Sheriff of Jackson Co., Alabama nephew of Dr. James B. Cowan, Chief Surgeon to Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest who married my cousin Mary Anne Gail Meÿer Kilgore Casa Grande, AZ

    04/03/2002 04:59:12
    1. Re: [KILGORE] Things
    2. RoseMary Sofes
    3. Re: Cowan emails and selling copied materials on lists: I have seen Mr. Cowan's posting. First of all , they are usually chocked full of genealogy information. I forwarded the one listed here with your letter to a friend that is researching Clinch River,VA. I purchased some time ago his "copied" manuscript CASTLE'S WOODS. I did pay him $25.00 for it. I was not dissappointed. It is abt. 147 pages and has wonderful sourced information in it . I am glad he makes whatever he has availiable. Incidentally, I sent the money, and received the book promptly. I think he is an ethical person. I would, purchase again from him, if I see something of particular interest to me. Let's face it................if you want special information, you usually must purchase it somewhere! (I just purchased 1 month subscription to view CENSUS REPORTS ON........A VERY POPULAR GENEALOGY SITE. The way I see it, if you want to purchase the product.......you do. If you do not wish to purchase anything offered for sale .......you don't. It is always our choice. RoseMary Sofes Gail Meyer Kilgore wrote: > I am going to post this email that I got from this man who has tried to > subscribe to the mail list and I have refused to sub him. He presents a > good story and when you contact him he tells you the price that he is > selling the information for. I had contacted him on another line and he > said that he photocopies these papers and sells them. He was charging like > $25.00 for photocopies. > > I do not want you to maybe loose out on something because of my feelings > that this man is using the mailing lists to pad his pockets. I have not > subbed him to the list and I won't but I will post his message and then the > ball is in your hands. > > Gail, > I am including the following e-mail and if you want the list to have it send > it through. If not, thats fine. > > On May 27th John Giacoletti and I travel to Northern Ireland to begin a > three > week trip to research those families who defended Derry during the great > siege. While rootsweb claims to have in excess of 20,000 surname lists we > are interested in less than one hundred. That is the approximate number of > families we have found that have roots both at Derry and King's Mountain > and it is the migration of these families from Ulster to the Carolinas by > way > of Pennsylvania, Virgina and other places that we wish to explore. I could > not be happier with my travelling companion who by all accounts is a > scholar. > John and I both attended the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. > He received a M.A there in 17th Century British literature and for two years > was a Wilson Library Fellow and assistant to the Curator of Rare Books. For > his thesis he did a manuscript attribution study and gained great skill in > reading the Elizabethan hand. I was a business major and am included on this > trip because I drive well on the left side of the road!! > > In order to help the researcher gain a better understanding of his or her > Ulster roots three documents have been offered to the lists during the past > few months. The first and by all accounts the most popular, has been the > thesis by Professor James W. Hagy entitled, "Castle's Woods: Frontier > Virginia Settlement, 1769-1799 published 1966 at East Tennessee St. > University. The importance of Castle's Woods is twofold. First, it had its > day of importance as a stepping stone to the West and secondly, it is > important as a case study of the American frontier. I actually located > Professor Hagy a month or so ago, thirty-seven years after he wrote this > thesis and had a nice conversation with him. > > The second item offered was a two book set by the Reverend Alexander Lecky; > "The Laggan and its Presbyterianism" and "In the Days of the Laggan > Presbytery" published in Belfast 1905 and 1908. The Laggan is the area > between the river Foyle and the upper reaches of Lough Swilly, and extending > in one direction from Lifford to Letterkenny. It formed the most productive > and desireable portion of the ancient territory of Tyrconnell. These books > represent the first published source of early settlers (Presbyterian elders) > arranged by Parish and TOWNLAND. To know who sat in the pew next to you is > really exciting if you are researching allied families of your direct line. > I will not list all the names of the people listed in Lecky's books except > to > say that if I send this post to your list it is because a person with the > same surname is listed as an elder in the Appendix. > > The last and most detailed offering is titled, "A History of the Siege of > Londonderry and Defence of Enniskillen in 1688 and 1689, with Historical > Poetry and Biographical Notes, & by the Reverend John Graham, M.A., Rector > of > Migilligan, in the Diocese of Derry. The Battles of the Boyne, Athlone, and > Aughrim, the Siege and Capitulation of Limmerick, by Lord McCaulay., > Toronto, McClear & Publishers, 1869. > > What a title!! They don't write em like that any more. I sacrificed my > copy > to the copy machine as it was in poor condition and now it is for all > purposes destroyed, but it copied really well. From the forward we read the > following: > > "In bringing out a new edition of Mr. Graham's narrative of the Siege of > Derry, and enhancing its value by descriptions from Lord McCaulay's graphic > pen, the publishers conceive that they are conferring a benefit upon the > reading public of Canada-for the events which these pages record are such as > we do not willingly let die. Apart altogether from the political and > religious aspects of the question, the romance of history never had a fairer > theme. Truth is proverbially stranger than fiction, and never did the > all-exiting elements of truth gather in sterner compression than around > these > memorable hundred days. What fiction ever imagined excitements and > sensations more thrilling? and yet they are no morbid fancies of the > distempered brain, but events which actually happened, events from whose > enactment and results, the destinies of a nation were changed." > > I will keep sending these documents to as many people as want them up until > May 1st. Contact me at cscunc@aol.com for details. Upon our return all > findings will be posted to our website (under construction) and the lists > will be notified. It is not possible to remain on all of the lists all of > the > time so feel free to contact us at cscunc@aol.com if you have any specific > questions. Thanks to those people who sent us e-mails so far with their > family lines that tie to Derry and King's Mountain. > > Regards, > Robert Cowan > John Giacoletti > > Then I guess since he sent me this info, he must have figured that he > qualified to join the list. > > The Castle's Woods area of southwest Virginia is full of Kilgore's and > Cowan's most of whom are related. My 6th great grandfather Samuel Cowan was > killed by Indians on the Clinch in 1776 and is featured in Hagy's thesis > along with many of the Kilgore's. > > Thanks, > Robert Cowan > 5th great grandfather Robert Cowan fought at King's Mountain > 4th great grandfather Major John Cowan, early settler of Franklin Co. Tn. > 3rd great grandfather John Cowan, Sheriff of Jackson Co., Alabama > nephew of Dr. James B. Cowan, Chief Surgeon to Confederate general Nathan > Bedford Forrest who married my cousin Mary Anne > > Gail Meÿer Kilgore > Casa Grande, AZ > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== > You are about to enter the KILGORE ZONE! Beware of the wit and the zany members and their doings! But they are ALL family!

    04/03/2002 04:52:46
  1. 04/01/2002 03:29:46
    1. Re: [KILGORE] EASTER
    2. Nell Blumel
    3. Donna, Thank you for the Easter greeting. Hope you had a Blessed Easter. We had company over the weekend and with all the church services and getting dinner ready time ran out and I realized I had not sent Easter greetings. My thoughts were with you. How are you recovering from the flu? Wonderful you have nice neighbors looking in on you. Were any of your family with you over the weekend? It is so very hot here in Fl. I am suppose to stay out of the sun but I was out this morning watering some of the flowers as they were looking droopy. Yes, we water when the sun goes down but I guess they are needing a lot of water right now as we haven't had rain for some time. Ben doesn't like for me to be in the sun but every now and then might not be too bad. Hope you are feeling much better. Love, Nell

    04/01/2002 04:57:06
    1. Re: [KILGORE] EASTER
    2. Gail Meyer Kilgore
    3. Well, FL is not as HOT as AZ. We were the hot spot in the nation yesterday and going for a record breaker today and in the 90's all week and NO RAIN in site. I am watering and feeding the little critters as there is just no water in the desert. Noticed a covey of Quail in here this morning. Belated Happy Easter to all too. Gail

    04/01/2002 03:22:27
    1. [KILGORE] Chat
    2. Joyce Stimson
    3. HAPPY EASTER TO ALL OF OUR COUSINS & COUSIN-IN-LAWS. We are having a wonderful and grateful Easter. My hubby, Jerry, went through open heart surgery (6 by-passes) and is doing great. I am thankful that God was with us and guided the hands of the surgeons. Joyce Kilgore Stimson

    03/31/2002 06:54:19
    1. Re: [KILGORE] EASTER
    2. Happy easter to all my Kilgores family. Amazing how we stretch all over the world and yet connect to each other through this email. :) Ok Ok so I do not have a way with words. May you have a day full of happiness and a belly full of eggs the rest of the week. DdHober <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/d2hober/civilwar.htm">Civil War Resources</A> <A HREF="aol://4344:167.resou2.35202211.665264872/">Genealogy on AOL -- Keyword: Roots</A> <A HREF="www.Genealogyforum.com">Genealogyforum.com</A>

    03/31/2002 05:29:32
    1. [KILGORE] EASTER
    2. HAPPY EASTER TO ALL OF THE KILGORE CLAN. DONNA

    03/31/2002 04:25:59
    1. Re: Fw: [KILGORE] prayer request Carol update
    2. Great news, Carol. Thanks for keeping us posted. Warm regards, Randy

    03/20/2002 02:22:29
    1. Fw: [KILGORE] prayer request Carol update
    2. Carol Harriman
    3. > Hi all, > > Joe just called me from the hospital. LaQuita had her surgury and is now in > recovery. They found the thing they had put in her artery to hold it open > had collasped and they repaired it. She is doing fine and Joe will be able > to see her in a little bit. The doctors say she may be able to come home in > a day or 2. You did it agian! Thank you all so much for your prayers! > Now to get Joe back home so I can go to my Mothers to find someone to help > her and Gary, my step father. > > Thanks again! Your prayers mean so much! > > Carol >

    03/19/2002 03:33:45
    1. Re: [KILGORE] Kilgore, Benjamin - GA
    2. Thanks, Jenna. I do have access to Ancestry.com census. I will see if I can get it. Thank you do much for the help. Davine

    03/19/2002 02:43:58
    1. Re: [KILGORE] Jonathan Kilgore From Ireland
    2. Hi Jerry, Thanks for the note on the Kilgores in Missouri. Believe it or not, despite having my family in Missouri since 1850, I can't find any connection to this strain of the cousins. However, in the archives is a bunch of additional information on individuals in this posting, including an interesting tale or two. If anyone is having trouble tracking it down, I recommend using the search terms "John Hampton Kilgore" (include the quotation marks); also, "Permelia" with or without the quotation marks. Warm regards from snowy Massachusetts, Randy Kilgore www.RobertRedfordlookalike.com

    03/19/2002 08:58:24
    1. [KILGORE] Jonathan Kilgore From Ireland
    2. Hi to all my cousins, While at the library today researching a book that was printed in 1876, I found this passage in it. Most of you may already know this but here it is again, just in case, heheheheh! SOURCE: HISTORY OF THE PIONEER FAMILIES OF MISSOURI, with Numerous Sketches, Anecdotes, Adventures, etc., Relating to Early Days in Missouri.. By W.S. Bryan & R. Rose. 569p. (1876, 1935) 1984. Audrain County, Missouri Kilgore. -- Jonathan Kilgore, of Ireland, emigrated to America and settled in South Carolina. He removed from there to Caldwell County, Ky., where he and his wife both died, the latter being 81 years of age at the time of her death. Their children were --- John, David, William, Hugh, Jane, Samuel, Mary, and Jonathan. John and Hugh came to Missouri, the former in 1827 and the latter in 1837. John was married first to Polly Willingham, and they had --- John, Samuel, Polly, Jane, Elizabeth, Nancy, and Margaret. He was married a second time to Phoebe Tart, of North Carolina, by whom he had Permelia, Amaretta, Lucinda, James B., Erretta, Nathan F., and Parthena. Nathan F. married Margaret J. Eller. Permelia married John H. Kilgore. Amaretta married Alfred Powell. Hugh, brother of John Kilgore, Sr., married Phoebe Bowlin, and they ahd several children, all of whom are dead now. --- John Hampton, Casana, and Isabella, children of David Kilgore, of Caldwell Co., Ky., settled in Missouri. John Hampton settled in Augrain County in 1830, and married Margaret Willingham, who died, and he afterward married Permelia Kilgore. He had eighteen children in all. Casana married Icham Kilgore, who settled in Boone COunty in 1826, and in Audrain in 1827. They had six sons and six daughters. Isabella married William Wood, who settled in Callaway County in 1837, and in Audrain in 1838. They ahd two sons and four daughters. I hope this is of benefit to someone. Until later, good hunting, Jerry Penley in Kingsport, TN www.Penjaccphoto.com

    03/19/2002 08:25:49
    1. Re: [KILGORE] prayer request Carol
    2. Carol Harriman
    3. Hello everyone, Joe made it to the hospital fine,, and thanks for all those prayers for him! The roads were terrible and he saw several accidents, but he was fine. Here is the lastest update I have on LaQuita . Joe did not call me till just a while ago., so I could not tell you anything untill now. I did talk to LaQuita for a few minutes this afternoon. She did not know any thing about what was going on with the doctors, and could only talk for a second, but I told her about all of you guys praying for her. It meant so much to her to think that people who did not know her were praying for her recovery. When Joe called tonight he told me she did not have the surgury today. They are going to do it tomorrow. I am not sure right now when. They siad it would be anytime between 6 AM and 1 PM. Joe will call me in the morning to tell me when and I will let you know. I do not mind giving out my address to you guys,, after all we are family. I am sure she would love to have that card Donna. I will forward it to her for you. My address is: Carol Harriman 226 Timberview CT. Argyle, Texas, 76226 Thanks again for all the prayers and support. This is such a wonderful family I can not put into words how much you all meant to me, especialy today. Your prayers have given me a lot of comfort and strength to get through this. This has indeed been one of the most trying months of my life! I don't know about the rest of you but I can not believe all the people I know who have died (4 of them),,another 2 found they have cancer, I had to put my 4 legged friend and compainion to sleep 2 weeks ago,1 young boy had a wreck last night and his best friend who was with him got killed ( I just found out about that tonight), all this with Laqita, then I find out the care giver I hired for my Mother (who has Alzhimers and lives 6 hours for me) has to quit. That means I will be making my 4th trip there in 5 weeks to find someone else to help them. All I can do is hope next month gets better! Carol

    03/18/2002 05:21:45
    1. Re: [KILGORE] Genealogy Debate: Scottish, Irish or both? RANDY
    2. Hi Randy; Thank you for the Irish, Scot e-mail. I will not argue the point either way BUT, I was told I was Scot and Danish. My Mother was full blooded Danish, and the Scot was of course on the Kilgore side. The saying went, first England, then sent to Scotland to get rid of the Pesky Kilgores, from there sent to Ireland for the same reason, plus the Kilgores were good, hard fighters! of course some of the Scots married Irish. I do believe that statement as my grandfather was a Presbyterian, and my grandma was a stanch Methodist. If you were not a Methodist according to Grandma, you were trash and absolutely no good!!!!! Now, someone else can figure out exactly what nationality Kilgore is! Donna

    03/18/2002 04:02:35
    1. Re: [KILGORE] THE WEARING OF THE GREEN & Prayer Request
    2. otto & Carolyn Rabe
    3. Hi Donna, Wow! That's really interesting. I used to think Kilgore was not too common of a name. I am going down to Calif. this next week to the foothills of the Sierra's . On one of my trips down to Sacramento area it would be neat to go to one of the Kilgore cemeteries? I have family all over Calif. from San Diego on up. This genealogy is really cool you meet so many nice people! Cousin Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dknova@aol.com> To: <KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] THE WEARING OF THE GREEN & Prayer Request > Hi Carolyn; > > We are cold here in Ca. also. However, thank heavens we do not have any snow! > Yesterday was terrible--Rain,Wind, Hail, and Brrr COLD. Today is cold also, > but at least the sun is out and the weather is clear. It is supposed to stay > sunny and warming up the whole week. > > We have a lot of Kilgores here in Los Gatos. I stumbled on the Memorial > cemetery, and Kilgores are buried there in abundance! They are from the > Matthew line, or at least most of them. There are also 2 cemeteries outside > of Sacramento that are actually called Kilgore Cemetery. > > Cousin Donna > > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== > Our Kilgore List archives may be searched at > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

    03/18/2002 03:48:01
    1. Re: [KILGORE] THE WEARING OF THE GREEN & Prayer Request
    2. Hi Carolyn; We are cold here in Ca. also. However, thank heavens we do not have any snow! Yesterday was terrible--Rain,Wind, Hail, and Brrr COLD. Today is cold also, but at least the sun is out and the weather is clear. It is supposed to stay sunny and warming up the whole week. We have a lot of Kilgores here in Los Gatos. I stumbled on the Memorial cemetery, and Kilgores are buried there in abundance! They are from the Matthew line, or at least most of them. There are also 2 cemeteries outside of Sacramento that are actually called Kilgore Cemetery. Cousin Donna

    03/18/2002 03:42:13
    1. Re: [KILGORE] prayer request Carol
    2. Carol; If you don't mind giving out your address, I would love to send La Quita a card. Telling her x amount of people sent prayers by email is a great gesture, but, receiving a card that you can hold in your hand and read every word seems to be more rewarding to an ill person. If you would rather not give out your address, that is fine with me also. I can understand that easily. Nevertheless the prayers are still coming your way. I am presuming that Joe made it to the hospital, as I am sure you would have said he had problems in your latest email. I am so thankful for that. Thank you so much for keeping us posted on La Quita's condition. God Bless, Donna Kilgore Terranova Dknova@aol.com

    03/18/2002 03:09:42