I was just reading some of the posts I missed while sick. In one there was a question about a Cherokee connection. Let me tell you what I know on that. A physician/anthropologist told me many years ago that I was mostly Indian, specifically Choctaw and Cherokee. He could tell by specific physical traits, such as: bone structure, muscle attachments, muscle mass, sprung ribs, high red blood cell count, high pain threshold, etc. I laughed because at that time I thought I was only a tiny bit Indian. Silly me. I have since discovered that there were Indians on my mother and my father's family. Interestingly I discovered I have Indian feet. Nike makes a special running shoe for Indians but I can't get them, because I am not a government Indian. Yep, Nike practically gives them to Indians on reservations but won't sell them to those of us who do not. That sucks. What are Indian feet? You can see a picture of my feet on my blog (email me for address). But basically the traits are a very wide foot, narrow heal and high instep. Getting shoes that fit are extremely difficult. Moving on... The Kilgores I am familiar with were descendants of Robert Kilgore (abt 1740 NC) and Winifred Clayton (abt 1740 NC) who settled on the South Cumberland plateau of Tennessee. Many of them married Indians, most of which moved into the area with Dragging Canoe. Google him for details. Basically he was a pissed off chief that moved with 1000 braves and their families from VA/NC to TN in the late 1700s. They went to the Chattanooga TN area and eventually into Marion and Grundy Co TN. Some left during the removal (Trail of Tears) but many refused to go. During and after the removal, some moved into NE Alabama. Remember that during the removal, if you could pass as black or white, you could stay and keep your property. If you were obviously Indian then they took your property and imprisoned you. If part of the family was Indian then those individuals were removed. The federal troops, sent to Monteagle TN to remove the Indians (yep Kilgore ones), disappeared. Hummmm. The feds are still holding a grudge over that. :-) Dragging Canoe nor the Chikamaka have ever signed a treaty. I went to a meeting of the Chikamaka Cherokee. I can't tell you how weird it was to walk into a room full of strangers that looked like me. One guy said, "I knew you were family the minute you walked in the door." It was pretty obvious to me too. I am still collecting Kilgore related Cherokee applications from the early 1900s. I will include them in my Kilgore project data. Most of them were denied. That was just the federal procedure. Get an application. Deny it. They did not want the official Indian population to increase. They continue to have the same attitude. Did you know that the state of Tennessee doesn't recognize any Tennessee tribes? No kidding. It is just crazy and I suspect related to potential casino control. But I digress... Cousin Dennie

Well, believe me it has been a rewarding week. My only complaint is, I don't like to be cold. When you get up to timberline the temps drop and when the sun starts to go down it cools off quick but I would do it all over again. Gail On 9/4/08, Bob Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > > Cousin Gail, > We went to Sutton WV for a Shaw family reunion then went trail riding in > our > modified Dodge Raider. > Something electrical happened and we had to be pulled back. Great trip > except for that. We have many friends that go to Colorado for trail riding > in their jeep type vehicles. > > Bob > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > fax 330 963 6858 > cell 330 247 8543 > phone 330 425 8819 > [email protected] > [email protected] > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gail Kilgore" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:11 AM > Subject: [KILGORE] Things > > > >I am not in AZ and am in Colorado and have had to use dial-up but now > after > > waiting all summer for wireless I am on DSL and I can get a message sent > > in > > seconds instead of minutes. > > > > Jack will be flying back to AZ for a week and then I can get caught up on > > my > > emails and my responsibilities. > > > > He has kept me hopping, and always on the go. Sunday, we made it to > > timberline in our ATV's and it rained the whole way and I was all but > > frozen. Monday, we made it to timberline and to the top of the mountain. > > We rode the ATV's to timberline and walked the rest of the way to the > top. > > What a view!!! Tuesday, we went to a lake and then took off on a road to > > ??? and ended up on the Colorado Trail which was a little more than I > > wanted > > to tackle to get to timberline. First of all, the Colorado Trail isn't > > for > > ATV's and the rocks were too much for me to handle. > > > > With my knee I was surprised to see that I could climb rocks up and down > > to > > get to the top of that mountain. It was a little sore on Tuesday, > laughed > > to myself and thought maybe it needed a squirt of oil. > > > > I lost a very dear friend of mine in August at the age of 57 from brain > > cancer and she had never been to Colorado or really not too much of > > anywhere > > and didn't do a lot of things outside the house. I decided that I am > > going > > to live for each day and try and get the most out of each day. > > > > Tomorrow, back to the ATV's and Friday we are going to put the > > dredge/highbanker in the water and then after Jack leaves on Sunday and I > > get back up here, I think I am going to sleep for a couple of days... > ;-)) > > > > Hope you have all had a grand summer!! > > > > Gail > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Bob, you are posting to the mail list and there are 69 of us Kilgore's on this list so tell us all who you are searching. Gail On 9/4/08, Bob Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tell who? > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > fax 330 963 6858 > cell 330 247 8543 > phone 330 425 8819 > [email protected] > [email protected] > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gail Kilgore" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 11:56 PM > Subject: [KILGORE] Bob Shaw > > > > Bob, I saw your note in my guest book and see that you are of the > southern > > Kilgore's and boy you sure hit it big on this mail list as I would just > > about bet that 3/4 of the members are southern Kilgore's. > > > > Tell them the lineage that you are tracing and I bet you will get some > > help. > > > > Has anyone gotten the Kilgore's over the big pond? > > > > Gail > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Vickie, It will take me a while to match this up with my tree. Charles R. (Bob) Shaw Engineered Special Products Inc. Adsco Line Products, Inc. Product Engineer 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 fax 330 963 6858 cell 330 247 8543 phone 330 425 8819 [email protected] [email protected] www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickie Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Kilgore/Douglas > There is a line of Kilgores that were in early Lancaster Co VA as early as > 1678. At least two descendants of this line were in Johnston Co NC by > 1761 -John & Peter Kilgore. Some of their descendants went down into GA. > My ancestor Charles Kilgore born January 1740 was in Orange Co NC in 1766 > and was in Russell Co VA by 1773 and later moved to Greene Co TN by 1783. > It is believed that Charles had a brother named Robert Kilgore who married > Winnie Clayton and who was killed by Indians Dec 31, 1782. We can not > document the relationship between these two men-but circumstantially the > case is very strong that they were brothers. It's also believed that a > Robert Kilgore who was in Granville Co NC as early as 1750 may have been > the f/o these two men-again not proved. A Thomas Kilgore who died in 1822 > Robertson Co TN (supposedly at the age of 110) was also in Orange Co NC > and had dealings with both Charles & Robert (M: Winnie). This Thomas does > not appear in record there before! > 1764. This Thomas (or possibly another man named Thomas Kilgore) bought > land from Charles Kilgore and registered the deed in 1766 which was the > same time that Charles Kilgore registered the land he'd bought & then sold > to Thomas Kilgore-only the deed register survived not the actual deed. In > 1765 Robert Kilgore sold 363 acres to a Thomas Kilgore in Orange Co NC > this was the 363 acres granted Robert Kilgore in 1753 meaning this is the > elder Robert Kilgore. A descendant of Thomas Kilgore wrote in 1853: > 1858-March 5 Columbia Co AR:Three Creeks Ark: Hon David Kilgore, Dear Sir: > recd a note from Hon. E. A. Warrne from yourself to him making inquiries > for the purpose of ascertaining whether we were of the same family. I > know that my great grandfather came from Ireland about 200 years ago with > four sons and settled in Penna or Maryland. The names of his sons were > Ralph, William, Charles and Thomas. The last name was my grandfather who > settled in an early day in North Carolina, from whence he, in company with > my father, then quite a youth, removed to Tennessee, immediately after the > Revolutionary War. Tennessee was then an unbroken wilderness and they > were forced to build and live in a fort as a protection aginst the > Indians. This fort was called Killgore's Station and was situated near > where Nashville now stands. My grandfather died since my recollection at > the advance age of 110 years. My fathers name was also Thomas.My father > had three brothers, all of whom were active! > ly engaged in the Revolutionary War and one of them was shot through at > the battle of Kings Mountain. If you are a relative to us, you will have > no cause to blush on account of those four then young men as they all > fought and shed their blood freely in battling for the liberty we now > enjoy. We have relations in Indiana and Kentucky. I remember having seen > at my father's house in Tennessee, many years ago, four men of our name > whose given names were John, Huey, David and Charles. I have heard my > father speak of an Obed Kilgore who was a relation. Where he lived I do > not know. The name James was a common one in our family. I recollect > hearing my grandfather say that all of the names were related, which must > necessarily be true according to the legend. I think sir, we have the > right to be proud of the name as I have never yet seen it associated with > crime or infamy. So may it ver be. I enclose you a short obituary notice > of my father who recently died at the age of 9! > 4 years, I close sir! With the request that you will let me know the > history of your immediate family which I will take as a great favor. > Respectfully yours, etc. G. L. Kilgore -Thompson Journals V.20 p150-152 > (re:Lee Bartos internet contact) > > > > This was Gabriel Lea Kilgore s/o Thomas Kilgore born c1759 Orange Co NC > s/o Thomas Kilgore died 1822 which means that it was the f/o Thomas > Kilgore died 1822 that he was referring to as his great-grandfather in the > above letter. This letter is very intriguing not to mention puzzling. > There was a William Kilgore listed in Orange Co NC in 1753 and it's > believed though not proved that it was this William Kilgore who obtained > land in Augusta District GA in 1755 along with a Ralph Kilgore believed to > have been Wm's brother (again not proved). Descendants of Wm Kilgore of > GA give his birth date as c1726 which means he was about 14 years older > than Charles Kilgore born 1740 and Thomas Kilgore was supposed to have > been born 1712-1715 making him about 10 years older than Wm. Well, who > knows. We haven't yet been able to link Wm or Ralph Kilgore directly to > any of the early Orange Co NC Kilgores although it seems very likely these > men were related in some way. We also haven't be! > en able to link any of the Orange Co NC Kilgores with the Johnston/Wake Co > NC Kilgores whom we know were descended from the Kilgores of > Lancaster/Spotsylvania Co VA Kilgores. > > A James Kilgore was in Chester Co PA in 1736. He was not the son of John > Kilgore whose inventory was taken in 1731 and who was apparently a pauper > as his few possessions were sold for debts. > > A Robert Kilgore was transported to MD in 1675 and then no further info > can be found about him. Thomas Kilgore h/o Rebecca Lasley was in MD by > 1750. No connection has been made between him and NC Kilgores. > > A William Gilgo died in Craven Co NC 1752 when his wife, Elizabeth was > made his administratix and his orphan sons, John age 11& William age 7 > were bound out. A James Kilgoar was listed on 1755 Currituck Co NC tax > list. Then of course there is the Joseph Kilgore in early Maine. > > A John Gilgore was listed in 1702 Maryland. > > > > Vickie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bob Shaw<mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:47 AM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Kilgore/Douglas > > > Thanks Vickie, > That is the first time I heard that! I know that the Douglas clan goes > on > forever. But how far back can we go on the Kilgore line? > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > fax 330 963 6858 > cell 330 247 8543 > phone 330 425 8819 > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vickie Miller" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:12 AM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Kilgore/Douglas > > > > The connection is nonexistant as proved by Douglas researchers whom > Jerry > > Penley connected with early on in the Kilgore-Douglas debate. This > whole > > thing was a supposition made by Judge G. W. Kilgore based on his > > interpretation of the origin of the Kilgore name in Scotland. We are > NOT > > from the Douglas clan. > > Vickie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gail > Kilgore<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > To: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Kilgore/Douglas > > > > > > Have we ever got our Kilgore's back to Lord Douglas? I know that I am > > getting older but if this guy died in 1720 he could be the father to a > > lot > > of the immigrant Kilgore's. > > > > Gail > > > > > > On 9/2/08, Bob Shaw > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>> > wrote: > > > > > > Gail? > > > I'm trying to make the connection between the Kilgore and the > Douglas > > > clans. > > > I can't make the connection between James the 9th Earl of Douglas > > 1426-1488 > > > and Lord Douglas Kilgore 1650-1720 > > > Know anyone that can help me? > > > > > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > > > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > > > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > > > fax 330 963 6858 > > > cell 330 247 8543 > > > phone 330 425 8819 > > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com%3chttp//www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/>> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > with > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > with the > > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > > message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I think I remember that we were missing a link but there were lots of discussions on the subject. Dennie Gail Kilgore wrote: > Have we ever got our Kilgore's back to Lord Douglas? I know that I am > getting older but if this guy died in 1720 he could be the father to a lot > of the immigrant Kilgore's. > > Gail > > > On 9/2/08, Bob Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Gail? >> I'm trying to make the connection between the Kilgore and the Douglas >> clans. >> I can't make the connection between James the 9th Earl of Douglas 1426-1488 >> and Lord Douglas Kilgore 1650-1720 >> Know anyone that can help me? >> >> Charles R. (Bob) Shaw >> 2425 Sherwin Dr. >> Twinsburg Ohio 44087 >> fax 330 963 6858 >> cell 330 247 8543 >> phone 330 425 8819 >> [email protected] >> [email protected] >> www.engineeredspecialproducts.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Tell who? Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 fax 330 963 6858 cell 330 247 8543 phone 330 425 8819 [email protected] [email protected] www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Kilgore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 11:56 PM Subject: [KILGORE] Bob Shaw > Bob, I saw your note in my guest book and see that you are of the southern > Kilgore's and boy you sure hit it big on this mail list as I would just > about bet that 3/4 of the members are southern Kilgore's. > > Tell them the lineage that you are tracing and I bet you will get some > help. > > Has anyone gotten the Kilgore's over the big pond? > > Gail > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Vickie, That is the first time I heard that! I know that the Douglas clan goes on forever. But how far back can we go on the Kilgore line? Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 fax 330 963 6858 cell 330 247 8543 phone 330 425 8819 [email protected] [email protected] www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickie Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Kilgore/Douglas > The connection is nonexistant as proved by Douglas researchers whom Jerry > Penley connected with early on in the Kilgore-Douglas debate. This whole > thing was a supposition made by Judge G. W. Kilgore based on his > interpretation of the origin of the Kilgore name in Scotland. We are NOT > from the Douglas clan. > Vickie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gail Kilgore<mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:51 PM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Kilgore/Douglas > > > Have we ever got our Kilgore's back to Lord Douglas? I know that I am > getting older but if this guy died in 1720 he could be the father to a > lot > of the immigrant Kilgore's. > > Gail > > > On 9/2/08, Bob Shaw > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Gail? > > I'm trying to make the connection between the Kilgore and the Douglas > > clans. > > I can't make the connection between James the 9th Earl of Douglas > 1426-1488 > > and Lord Douglas Kilgore 1650-1720 > > Know anyone that can help me? > > > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > > fax 330 963 6858 > > cell 330 247 8543 > > phone 330 425 8819 > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There is a line of Kilgores that were in early Lancaster Co VA as early as 1678. At least two descendants of this line were in Johnston Co NC by 1761 -John & Peter Kilgore. Some of their descendants went down into GA. My ancestor Charles Kilgore born January 1740 was in Orange Co NC in 1766 and was in Russell Co VA by 1773 and later moved to Greene Co TN by 1783. It is believed that Charles had a brother named Robert Kilgore who married Winnie Clayton and who was killed by Indians Dec 31, 1782. We can not document the relationship between these two men-but circumstantially the case is very strong that they were brothers. It's also believed that a Robert Kilgore who was in Granville Co NC as early as 1750 may have been the f/o these two men-again not proved. A Thomas Kilgore who died in 1822 Robertson Co TN (supposedly at the age of 110) was also in Orange Co NC and had dealings with both Charles & Robert (M: Winnie). This Thomas does not appear in record there before 1764. This Thomas (or possibly another man named Thomas Kilgore) bought land from Charles Kilgore and registered the deed in 1766 which was the same time that Charles Kilgore registered the land he'd bought & then sold to Thomas Kilgore-only the deed register survived not the actual deed. In 1765 Robert Kilgore sold 363 acres to a Thomas Kilgore in Orange Co NC this was the 363 acres granted Robert Kilgore in 1753 meaning this is the elder Robert Kilgore. A descendant of Thomas Kilgore wrote in 1853: 1858-March 5 Columbia Co AR:Three Creeks Ark: Hon David Kilgore, Dear Sir: recd a note from Hon. E. A. Warrne from yourself to him making inquiries for the purpose of ascertaining whether we were of the same family. I know that my great grandfather came from Ireland about 200 years ago with four sons and settled in Penna or Maryland. The names of his sons were Ralph, William, Charles and Thomas. The last name was my grandfather who settled in an early day in North Carolina, from whence he, in company with my father, then quite a youth, removed to Tennessee, immediately after the Revolutionary War. Tennessee was then an unbroken wilderness and they were forced to build and live in a fort as a protection aginst the Indians. This fort was called Killgore's Station and was situated near where Nashville now stands. My grandfather died since my recollection at the advance age of 110 years. My fathers name was also Thomas.My father had three brothers, all of whom were actively engaged in the Revolutionary War and one of them was shot through at the battle of Kings Mountain. If you are a relative to us, you will have no cause to blush on account of those four then young men as they all fought and shed their blood freely in battling for the liberty we now enjoy. We have relations in Indiana and Kentucky. I remember having seen at my father's house in Tennessee, many years ago, four men of our name whose given names were John, Huey, David and Charles. I have heard my father speak of an Obed Kilgore who was a relation. Where he lived I do not know. The name James was a common one in our family. I recollect hearing my grandfather say that all of the names were related, which must necessarily be true according to the legend. I think sir, we have the right to be proud of the name as I have never yet seen it associated with crime or infamy. So may it ver be. I enclose you a short obituary notice of my father who recently died at the age of 94 years, I close sir! With the request that you will let me know the history of your immediate family which I will take as a great favor. Respectfully yours, etc. G. L. Kilgore -Thompson Journals V.20 p150-152 (re:Lee Bartos internet contact) This was Gabriel Lea Kilgore s/o Thomas Kilgore born c1759 Orange Co NC s/o Thomas Kilgore died 1822 which means that it was the f/o Thomas Kilgore died 1822 that he was referring to as his great-grandfather in the above letter. This letter is very intriguing not to mention puzzling. There was a William Kilgore listed in Orange Co NC in 1753 and it's believed though not proved that it was this William Kilgore who obtained land in Augusta District GA in 1755 along with a Ralph Kilgore believed to have been Wm's brother (again not proved). Descendants of Wm Kilgore of GA give his birth date as c1726 which means he was about 14 years older than Charles Kilgore born 1740 and Thomas Kilgore was supposed to have been born 1712-1715 making him about 10 years older than Wm. Well, who knows. We haven't yet been able to link Wm or Ralph Kilgore directly to any of the early Orange Co NC Kilgores although it seems very likely these men were related in some way. We also haven't been able to link any of the Orange Co NC Kilgores with the Johnston/Wake Co NC Kilgores whom we know were descended from the Kilgores of Lancaster/Spotsylvania Co VA Kilgores. A James Kilgore was in Chester Co PA in 1736. He was not the son of John Kilgore whose inventory was taken in 1731 and who was apparently a pauper as his few possessions were sold for debts. A Robert Kilgore was transported to MD in 1675 and then no further info can be found about him. Thomas Kilgore h/o Rebecca Lasley was in MD by 1750. No connection has been made between him and NC Kilgores. A William Gilgo died in Craven Co NC 1752 when his wife, Elizabeth was made his administratix and his orphan sons, John age 11& William age 7 were bound out. A James Kilgoar was listed on 1755 Currituck Co NC tax list. Then of course there is the Joseph Kilgore in early Maine. A John Gilgore was listed in 1702 Maryland. Vickie ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Shaw<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Kilgore/Douglas Thanks Vickie, That is the first time I heard that! I know that the Douglas clan goes on forever. But how far back can we go on the Kilgore line? Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 fax 330 963 6858 cell 330 247 8543 phone 330 425 8819 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.engineeredspecialproducts.com<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickie Miller" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Kilgore/Douglas > The connection is nonexistant as proved by Douglas researchers whom Jerry > Penley connected with early on in the Kilgore-Douglas debate. This whole > thing was a supposition made by Judge G. W. Kilgore based on his > interpretation of the origin of the Kilgore name in Scotland. We are NOT > from the Douglas clan. > Vickie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gail Kilgore<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:51 PM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Kilgore/Douglas > > > Have we ever got our Kilgore's back to Lord Douglas? I know that I am > getting older but if this guy died in 1720 he could be the father to a > lot > of the immigrant Kilgore's. > > Gail > > > On 9/2/08, Bob Shaw > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > > > Gail? > > I'm trying to make the connection between the Kilgore and the Douglas > > clans. > > I can't make the connection between James the 9th Earl of Douglas > 1426-1488 > > and Lord Douglas Kilgore 1650-1720 > > Know anyone that can help me? > > > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > > fax 330 963 6858 > > cell 330 247 8543 > > phone 330 425 8819 > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > > > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com%3chttp//www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/>> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gail, Lord Douglas Kilgore, 1650 Scotland-1720 Ireland is the great grandfather of the Robert Kilgore/Winnie Clayton line. Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 fax 330 963 6858 cell 330 247 8543 phone 330 425 8819 [email protected] [email protected] www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Kilgore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Kilgore/Douglas > Have we ever got our Kilgore's back to Lord Douglas? I know that I am > getting older but if this guy died in 1720 he could be the father to a lot > of the immigrant Kilgore's. > > Gail > > > On 9/2/08, Bob Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Gail? >> I'm trying to make the connection between the Kilgore and the Douglas >> clans. >> I can't make the connection between James the 9th Earl of Douglas >> 1426-1488 >> and Lord Douglas Kilgore 1650-1720 >> Know anyone that can help me? >> >> Charles R. (Bob) Shaw >> 2425 Sherwin Dr. >> Twinsburg Ohio 44087 >> fax 330 963 6858 >> cell 330 247 8543 >> phone 330 425 8819 >> [email protected] >> [email protected] >> www.engineeredspecialproducts.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Cousin Gail, We went to Sutton WV for a Shaw family reunion then went trail riding in our modified Dodge Raider. Something electrical happened and we had to be pulled back. Great trip except for that. We have many friends that go to Colorado for trail riding in their jeep type vehicles. Bob Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 fax 330 963 6858 cell 330 247 8543 phone 330 425 8819 [email protected] [email protected] www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Kilgore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:11 AM Subject: [KILGORE] Things >I am not in AZ and am in Colorado and have had to use dial-up but now after > waiting all summer for wireless I am on DSL and I can get a message sent > in > seconds instead of minutes. > > Jack will be flying back to AZ for a week and then I can get caught up on > my > emails and my responsibilities. > > He has kept me hopping, and always on the go. Sunday, we made it to > timberline in our ATV's and it rained the whole way and I was all but > frozen. Monday, we made it to timberline and to the top of the mountain. > We rode the ATV's to timberline and walked the rest of the way to the top. > What a view!!! Tuesday, we went to a lake and then took off on a road to > ??? and ended up on the Colorado Trail which was a little more than I > wanted > to tackle to get to timberline. First of all, the Colorado Trail isn't > for > ATV's and the rocks were too much for me to handle. > > With my knee I was surprised to see that I could climb rocks up and down > to > get to the top of that mountain. It was a little sore on Tuesday, laughed > to myself and thought maybe it needed a squirt of oil. > > I lost a very dear friend of mine in August at the age of 57 from brain > cancer and she had never been to Colorado or really not too much of > anywhere > and didn't do a lot of things outside the house. I decided that I am > going > to live for each day and try and get the most out of each day. > > Tomorrow, back to the ATV's and Friday we are going to put the > dredge/highbanker in the water and then after Jack leaves on Sunday and I > get back up here, I think I am going to sleep for a couple of days... ;-)) > > Hope you have all had a grand summer!! > > Gail > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Cousin Dennie, I don't know how to search your archives? Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 fax 330 963 6858 cell 330 247 8543 phone 330 425 8819 [email protected] [email protected] www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Rennow" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Kilgore/Douglas >I think I remember this discussion MANY years ago. Did you search our > archives? > Cousin Dennie > > Bob Shaw wrote: >> Gail? >> I'm trying to make the connection between the Kilgore and the Douglas >> clans. >> I can't make the connection between James the 9th Earl of Douglas >> 1426-1488 and Lord Douglas Kilgore 1650-1720 >> Know anyone that can help me? >> >> Charles R. (Bob) Shaw >> 2425 Sherwin Dr. >> Twinsburg Ohio 44087 >> fax 330 963 6858 >> cell 330 247 8543 >> phone 330 425 8819 >> [email protected] >> [email protected] >> www.engineeredspecialproducts.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The connection is nonexistant as proved by Douglas researchers whom Jerry Penley connected with early on in the Kilgore-Douglas debate. This whole thing was a supposition made by Judge G. W. Kilgore based on his interpretation of the origin of the Kilgore name in Scotland. We are NOT from the Douglas clan. Vickie ----- Original Message ----- From: Gail Kilgore<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Kilgore/Douglas Have we ever got our Kilgore's back to Lord Douglas? I know that I am getting older but if this guy died in 1720 he could be the father to a lot of the immigrant Kilgore's. Gail On 9/2/08, Bob Shaw <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Gail? > I'm trying to make the connection between the Kilgore and the Douglas > clans. > I can't make the connection between James the 9th Earl of Douglas 1426-1488 > and Lord Douglas Kilgore 1650-1720 > Know anyone that can help me? > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > fax 330 963 6858 > cell 330 247 8543 > phone 330 425 8819 > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think I remember this discussion MANY years ago. Did you search our archives? Cousin Dennie Bob Shaw wrote: > Gail? > I'm trying to make the connection between the Kilgore and the Douglas clans. > I can't make the connection between James the 9th Earl of Douglas 1426-1488 and Lord Douglas Kilgore 1650-1720 > Know anyone that can help me? > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > fax 330 963 6858 > cell 330 247 8543 > phone 330 425 8819 > [email protected] > [email protected] > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I am not in AZ and am in Colorado and have had to use dial-up but now after waiting all summer for wireless I am on DSL and I can get a message sent in seconds instead of minutes. Jack will be flying back to AZ for a week and then I can get caught up on my emails and my responsibilities. He has kept me hopping, and always on the go. Sunday, we made it to timberline in our ATV's and it rained the whole way and I was all but frozen. Monday, we made it to timberline and to the top of the mountain. We rode the ATV's to timberline and walked the rest of the way to the top. What a view!!! Tuesday, we went to a lake and then took off on a road to ??? and ended up on the Colorado Trail which was a little more than I wanted to tackle to get to timberline. First of all, the Colorado Trail isn't for ATV's and the rocks were too much for me to handle. With my knee I was surprised to see that I could climb rocks up and down to get to the top of that mountain. It was a little sore on Tuesday, laughed to myself and thought maybe it needed a squirt of oil. I lost a very dear friend of mine in August at the age of 57 from brain cancer and she had never been to Colorado or really not too much of anywhere and didn't do a lot of things outside the house. I decided that I am going to live for each day and try and get the most out of each day. Tomorrow, back to the ATV's and Friday we are going to put the dredge/highbanker in the water and then after Jack leaves on Sunday and I get back up here, I think I am going to sleep for a couple of days... ;-)) Hope you have all had a grand summer!! Gail

Bob, I saw your note in my guest book and see that you are of the southern Kilgore's and boy you sure hit it big on this mail list as I would just about bet that 3/4 of the members are southern Kilgore's. Tell them the lineage that you are tracing and I bet you will get some help. Has anyone gotten the Kilgore's over the big pond? Gail

Have we ever got our Kilgore's back to Lord Douglas? I know that I am getting older but if this guy died in 1720 he could be the father to a lot of the immigrant Kilgore's. Gail On 9/2/08, Bob Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > > Gail? > I'm trying to make the connection between the Kilgore and the Douglas > clans. > I can't make the connection between James the 9th Earl of Douglas 1426-1488 > and Lord Douglas Kilgore 1650-1720 > Know anyone that can help me? > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > fax 330 963 6858 > cell 330 247 8543 > phone 330 425 8819 > [email protected] > [email protected] > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jean3657 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/974.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: HYOU I IAM ALSO A KILGORE MY DAD WAS ED KILGORE YOU SAY YOUHAVE A PICTURE OF GREAT GRANDA AND GREATGRANDPA JOSEPH PRESTON KILGORE I WOOD LIKE TO SEE IT THANKS JEAN [email protected] verizon;net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Gail? I'm trying to make the connection between the Kilgore and the Douglas clans. I can't make the connection between James the 9th Earl of Douglas 1426-1488 and Lord Douglas Kilgore 1650-1720 Know anyone that can help me? Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 fax 330 963 6858 cell 330 247 8543 phone 330 425 8819 [email protected] [email protected] www.engineeredspecialproducts.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: blkeen1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/477.484/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am a Kilgore (Bonnie Louise) looking to go back as far as I can. My great-grandfather was Craven Kilgore married to Tennessee Pennington. They had 11 children, Thomas Isach, Laura Loucinda, Derris, George E., Nancy Elizabeth, Leonard, Sarrah, Callie, Pearl, Virgie and John Edward. Any information would be appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The 1920 Census shows: Do any of you know who his parents were? Name*: Jesse H Kilgore* Age: 39 years Estimated birth year: abt 1881 Birthplace: South Carolina Race: White Home in 1920: Civil District 1, Warren, Tennessee Home owned: Own Sex: Male Marital status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Mother's Birth Place: South Carolina Father's Birth Place: South Carolina Image: 612 Enumerated: Feb 12 Jesse H 39 Head South Carolina White Farmer Rosie H 50 Wife TN TN TN White Jessica H 12 son Tennessee White Mary 10 dau Tennessee White John 8 son Tennessee White Ruth 6 dau South Carolina White In 1910 they were in Fayetteville, Lincoln, Tennessee; Roll: T624_1510; Page: 18B; Enumeration District: 75; Image: 222. His 83 year old aunt was living with them. In 1930 they were in Nashville, Davidson, Tennessee; Roll: 2243; Page: 6B; Enumeration District: 199; Image: 445.0.