Vickie and all The Combs family has been doing extensisve research for years and for the last couple of years have included DNA information too.? I believe that they have they have a "digest" on their site that explains what DNA testing is, what is expected from each set of markers, etc.? I personally have not visited their site for quite some time as I have not been working on my Combs lineage.? I decided to work on my husband's Kilgore line and have been putting together a data base on Kilgores to try to establish a link to Kilgore & Jack of PA as the family tradition said that the Kilgores came from a very large family - 18 kids - and that several generations back there was some kind of falling out and our line went their separate way.? Rita Davis gave me a suggestion to look at Hugh son of Benjamin though she personally had not researched that line of Kilgores.? Soooo the data base and a bare bones :) listing of Mike's grandparents with some facts noted.? I've documented the file with census records, marriage and death records as I could find them.? I've also incorporated the work of others, giving credit accordingly, of their published information on the Internet.? MY DATA BASE IS NOT PUBLISHED, as I don't want undocumented information to get "out there". Rowe, Michael Dayton Living Self? his parents are in their 80's Rowe, Robert Dayton Living Father b. Illinois Kilgore, Rosaleen Living Mother b. OK Grandparents Kilgore, Robert Gene I January 06, 1905 Eufaula, McIntosh I.T., Oklahoma d. November 11, 1966 Downey, Los Angeles Co., California Lier, Theresa Marguerite July 08, 1909 Eufaula, McIntosh Co., Oklahoma d. February 14, 1990 Redbluff, Tehama Co., California m. July 23, 1926 Great-grandparents Kilgore, Henry Washington March 04, 1861 Warsaw, Benton Co., Missouri d. April 1935 Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Co., Oklahoma Ransom, Laura Emaline May 08, 1871 Ozark, Franklin Co., Arkansas d. May 11, 1966 Eufaula, McIntosh Co., Oklahoma m. Muskogee Co., Oklahoma; 7 children b. in Eufaula, McIntosh I.T., Oklahoma; btwn 1876 and 1893 moved from MO to Okla. Henry Washington Kilgore was a deputy marshal and we found a picture of him with other deputies out side of a building in Perry, OK taken in 1893 on the Internet. One of the cousins has his pair of pearl handle six shooters. Both are buried in Greenwood Cemetery, Eufaula, McIntosh Co., OK 2nd Great grandparents Kilgore, Hugh January 1841 Clark, Chariton Co., Missouri d. Bet. 1910 - 1920 Rosengrants, Elizabeth Abt. 1838 Germany We have a piece of the quilt that she made during the voyage from Germany that a cousin sent to us. Also had land transaction in KY. 1850-1876 census & tax records, MO, 1900, 1910 census, Okla. 3rd Great grandparents Kilgore, Washington W. Abt. 1810 Kentucky Kilgore, Rachel Abt. 1816 b. Tenn. per census. Died MO. [last name unknown] Had 1 child in KY, 1 in IA, 6 in MO, land transaction KY, 1850-1870 census MO, land transaction in KY. Placed Rebecca Kilgore b.abt1825 as his sister as she m. Bethlehem Ellis in MO G. F. Adams J P. Lived next door in 1850 census; also an unkn Kilgore m. Elizabeth Ellis sister to Bethlehem. This male Kilgore is likely a bro. of Washington and Rebecca. Luke Ellis, bro. Of Bethlehem m. Nancy McDaniel by G. F. Adams J. P. and Washington was a witness. In 1850 MO census Washington Kilgore, Bethlehem's family, Luke Ellis family and Bethlehem and Luke parents lived next door(s) to each other. NOT PROVEN FROM HERE DOWN AS BEING OUR ANCESTORS NOR ARE THEY PROVEN TO BE CONNECTED BY ME. 4th Great grandparents Kilgore, Hugh Abt. 1770 Pennsylvania Bowlin, Phoebe Abt. 1772 Note: had land transactions in both KY and MO, 1810-1830 a Hugh on census in KY, 1840 MO 5th Great grandparents Kilgore, Benjamin Abt. 1741 Chambersburg, Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania d. September 06, 1802 Livingston Co., Kentucky McDavid, Jane December 02, 1756 Laurens, South Carolina d. December 02, 1856 m. Greenville, Greenville Co., South Carolina 6TH Great grandparents Kilgore, James William Abt. 1714 Donagheady, Down, Northern Ireland d. August 28, 1771 Jack, Elizabeth September 09, 1727 Ardstraw, Tyrone, Northern Ireland d. February 14, 1792 Newton Twp., Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania m. Newville, Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania 7th Great grandparents Kilgore, John Abt. 1660 Donagheady, Down, Northern Ireland d. March 07, 1731 Chester Co., Pennsylvania Howeson, Elpeth Abt. 1681 Aberdeenshire, Scotland d. Pennsylvania m. July 09, 1713 Kilmany, Fife Scotland 8th Great grandparents Kilgore, James Abt. 1639 Donagheady, Down, Northern Ireland Low, Margaret Abt. 1640 m. Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland 9th Great grandparents Kilgour, James Abt. 1603 Balbeggie, Fife, Scotland Steele, Isabel Abt. 1607 Dysart, Fife, Scotland m. October 14, 1628 Dysart, Fife, Scotland -----Original Message----- From: Vickie Miller <[email protected]> To: Kilgore <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:22 am Subject: [KILGORE] DNA Testing Does anyone know what the going rate for a 37 marker test is?? What is the cheapest rate? Vickie Rowe, Michael Dayton Living Self? his parents are in their 80's Rowe, Robert Dayton Living Father b. Illinois Kilgore, Rosaleen Living Mother b. OK Grandparents Kilgore, Robert Gene I January 06, 1905 Eufaula, McIntosh I.T., Oklahoma d. November 11, 1966 Downey, Los Angeles Co., California Lier, Theresa Marguerite July 08, 1909 Eufaula, McIntosh Co., Oklahoma d. February 14, 1990 Redbluff, Tehama Co., California m. July 23, 1926 Great-grandparents Kilgore, Henry Washington March 04, 1861 Warsaw, Benton Co., Missouri d. April 1935 Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Co., Oklahoma Ransom, Laura Emaline May 08, 1871 Ozark, Franklin Co., Arkansas d. May 11, 1966 Eufaula, McIntosh Co., Oklahoma m. Muskogee Co., Oklahoma; 7 children b. in Eufaula, McIntosh I.T., Oklahoma; btwn 1876 and 1893 moved from MO to Okla. Henry Washington Kilgore was a deputy marshal and we found a picture of him with other deputies out side of a building in Perry, OK taken in 1893 on the Internet. One of the cousins has his pair of pearl handle six shooters. Both are buried in Greenwood Cemetery, Eufaula, McIntosh Co., OK 2nd Great grandparents Kilgore, Hugh January 1841 Clark, Chariton Co., Missouri d. Bet. 1910 - 1920 Rosengrants, Elizabeth Abt. 1838 Germany We have a piece of the quilt that she made during the voyage from Germany that a cousin sent to us. Also had land transaction in KY. 1850-1876 census & tax records, MO, 1900, 1910 census, Okla. 3rd Great grandparents Kilgore, Washington W. Abt. 1810 Kentucky Kilgore, Rachel Abt. 1816 b. Tenn. per census. Died MO. [last name unknown] Had 1 child in KY, 1 in IA, 6 in MO, land transaction KY, 1850-1870 census MO, land transaction in KY. Placed Rebecca Kilgore b.abt1825 as his sister as she m. Bethlehem Ellis in MO G. F. Adams J P. Lived next door in 1850 census; also an unkn Kilgore m. Elizabeth Ellis sister to Bethlehem. This male Kilgore is likely a bro. of Washington and Rebecca. Luke Ellis, bro. Of Bethlehem m. Nancy McDaniel by G. F. Adams J. P. and Washington was a witness. In 1850 MO census Washington Kilgore, Bethlehem's family, Luke Ellis family and Bethlehem and Luke parents lived next door(s) to each other. NOT PROVEN FROM HERE DOWN AS BEING OUR ANCESTORS NOR ARE THEY PROVEN TO BE CONNECTED BY ME. 4th Great grandparents Kilgore, Hugh Abt. 1770 Pennsylvania Bowlin, Phoebe Abt. 1772 Note: had land transactions in both KY and MO, 1810-1830 a Hugh on census in KY, 1840 MO 5th Great grandparents Kilgore, Benjamin Abt. 1741 Chambersburg, Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania d. September 06, 1802 Livingston Co., Kentucky McDavid, Jane December 02, 1756 Laurens, South Carolina d. December 02, 1856 m. Greenville, Greenville Co., South Carolina 6TH Great grandparents Kilgore, James William Abt. 1714 Donagheady, Down, Northern Ireland d. August 28, 1771 Jack, Elizabeth September 09, 1727 Ardstraw, Tyrone, Northern Ireland d. February 14, 1792 Newton Twp., Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania m. Newville, Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania 7th Great grandparents Kilgore, John Abt. 1660 Donagheady, Down, Northern Ireland d. March 07, 1731 Chester Co., Pennsylvania Howeson, Elpeth Abt. 1681 Aberdeenshire, Scotland d. Pennsylvania m. July 09, 1713 Kilmany, Fife Scotland 8th Great grandparents Kilgore, James Abt. 1639 Donagheady, Down, Northern Ireland Low, Margaret Abt. 1640 m. Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland 9th Great grandparents Kilgour, James Abt. 1603 Balbeggie, Fife, Scotland Steele, Isabel Abt. 1607 Dysart, Fife, Scotland m. October 14, 1628 Dysart, Fife, Scotland -----Original Message----- From: Vickie Miller <[email protected]> To: Kilgore <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:22 am Subject: [KILGORE] DNA Testing Does anyone know what the going rate for a 37 marker test is?? What is the cheapest rate? Vickie

My husband joined the Daniel Family Treemaker DNA. They notify you everytime there is a close match. The Daniel Board got a group rate. One does not join for a particular ancestor but for a surname.   There is already a Kilgore group on this site:   http://www.familytreedna.com/   The rates are by number of markers: 12-$99, 25-$148, 37-$189, 67-$269   I have a brother that I could have tested.   Freda Kilgo Daniel

Hello all: My name is Roy Martin Killgore,  I descend from :  1 Charles Kilgore & Martha ??? , 2 William Kilgore & Jane Henderson, 3 Henry Gregg Killgore & Frances Hayes,  4 Simeon Edgar Killgore & Lassaphine Arnn, 5 Charlie Hayes Killgore & Maude S Martin. 6. Roy Martin Killgore The only proof I have is, Henry Gregg is listed in church records as a son of William Killgore and Jane Henderson.  Henry Gregg Killgore is listed in My mothers Bible.  Simeon is listed in my mothers bible as a son of Henry and Frances, and in census records. ( Simeon did not like his name so, on the census records he  is called  first, Simpson and then Samuel) I have no proof beyond William and Jane. The rest is speculation on my part. If this is proof enough, I will participate in the DNA testing. ----- Original Message ---- From: Sherry Arnold <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 5:24:21 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA Testing I would like to nominate Charles Kilgore (Martha) of Green Co TN.  Do we have many of his descendants on this list? 1.  Vickie Miller 2.  Gladys Forgety 3.  Roy M Kilgore 4.  Sherry Arnold Please add your name if you descend from Charles.\ Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Shaw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA Testing > Someone needs to start a list: with the name of the living person and > their > known or suspected ancestors. > Then we can select from that list, as the donations come in. > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > fax 330 963 6858 > cell 330 247 8543 > phone 330 425 8819 > [email protected] > [email protected] > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J Jerome" <[email protected]> > To: "Sherry Arnold" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:24 PM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA Testing > > >>I am willing to make a reasonable contribution for someone that might help >>us get past the William Sr. brick wall (land grant in Augusta, GA in >>1755). >>I am a part of the Robert Greer Kilgore line back to William Sr., but >>can't >>seem to get past him in 1755.  I think it would be great if we could get a >>results for a couple from the lines we think may connect and see what we >>find. >> >> Jennifer >> >> -------------- Original message -------------- >> From: "Sherry Arnold" <[email protected]> >> >>> I have contributed to a couple of different projects this year. I am not >>> an >>> authority on DNA but more than willing to do my part. One of my projects >>> had an offer for only $75 which three of us split; on another one there >>> were >>> 5 of us and we contributed $25. There seems to be a larger group here so >>> mybe it could be less? Also it depends on the marker as to the cost? I >>> think it should be at least a 37 marker? Is $150 a ballpark figure? Are >>> there at least 15 on this list that would/could contribute $10? I think >>> Vickie has summed it up very well. I think $150 may be the going rate >>> for >>> 37 markers, and we probably can;t get it together in time to take >>> advantage >>> of the September 30th deadline for the reduced rate??? >>> >>> So who's on first!!! lol Who is our 'in residence authoity' on DNA!!! A >>> comment on testing two from the same line, that sometimes turns up a >>> surprise... So not even that is a waste??? >>> >>> Sherry >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Vickie Miller" >>> To: "Kilgore" >>> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:59 AM >>> Subject: [KILGORE] DNA Testing >>> >>> >>> > I'd like to make a few suggestions. Has anyone determined whether the >>> > DNA >>> > testing site with the reduced rates is valid? If so, then that puts us >>> > on >>> > a deadline if we're going to get the ball rolling on this. >>> > First- I'd like to suggest that someone either be chosen or volunteers >>> > to >>> > coordinate this-preferrably with experience in either handling this >>> > sort >>> > of thing or with DNA testing (despite the fact that I'm making >>> > suggestions, I have experience in neither and am not volunteering >>> > myself) >>> > Second-that once that person has been chosen, then those of us who >>> > wish >>> > to >>> > donate then first PLEDGE the amount they wish to donate to the >>> > volunteer-that way if not enough interest or action takes place it >>> > will >>> > eliminate the bother for the volunteer to have to return money to >>> > those >>> > donating? That way, we'll also have an idea whether enough is being >>> > pledged to actually make this feasible at this time? >>> > Third-I'd suggest that the pledges be made directly to the volunteer >>> > OFF-LIST-that way the volunteer will receive the pledge directly to >>> > him >>> > and not have to wade through the list and sort out who's pledging? >>> > This >>> > will keep it better organized for that person-also in this time of >>> > belt-tightening it might be more comfortable for some to make their >>> > pledges anonymously (so to speak) directly to the volunteer and not to >>> > the >>> > list-perhaps more will respond? >>> > Fourth-Once someone is chosen, a deadline is set for the pledges to be >>> > given to the volunteer so that we can have an idea whether this is >>> > going >>> > to fly at this time? The volunteer can keep us apprised of the total >>> > and >>> > that way we'll know if this is a go or not. It may be, that we won't >>> > be >>> > able to get this project off the ground at this time, and may have to >>> > defer it to some future date. >>> > Fifth-It's my understanding that we need male DNA responders who have >>> > a >>> > direct line to our ancestors-we need to determine how many lines we >>> > represent and possibly what lines we want to focus on and what lines >>> > have >>> > already been tested-to avoid redundancy. It would be stupid if two >>> > descendants of say Robert & Winnie get tested while a descendant of >>> > say >>> > Ralph Kilgore of GA doesn't and so on. We need to focus our resources. >>> > >>> > What do you think? >>> > Sincerely, >>> > Vickie >>> > >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in >>> the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would you mind reposting the members currently included? I seem to have lost that original email. Thank you. Sincerely, Vickie ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA Kit, I am currently in contact with Grier McFarland Project Administrator- Kilgore DNA Project. I had to try a direct e-mail since my familytree e-mail reply said that it had invalid e-mail addresses. I contacted him at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> They are interested in having new members. If anyone is is interested please contact him. Cousin,Robert Arlington Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA Dear Cousins, RE: DNA I contacted them (familytreedna.com)late last Spring (2008). I reported my known lineage back to my great-great grandfather Kilgore. I heard two weeks later from the company, but not from the family site administrator, and so was not able to follow through on the testing. I will try again with Familytreedna. Thank you for the information that they seem to be the best. If they answer me this time, I will do the test for as many markers as I can reasonably afford. Christopher (Kit) Kilgore D Rennow <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >My daughter has studied genetics for many years. She researched the >sites and said this one seems to give the most for the money. >http://www.familytreedna.com/ > > >There are two basic test. > >1. Mitochondria (mtDNA) is only done through the female line. >Female's Mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother (back >hundreds of years) >Male's Mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother (back >hundreds of years) >A child can not test his or her father's mother's line. > >2. Y-DNA: By testing the Y-DNA, males can determine the origin of their >paternal line. Note that the Y-DNA strictly checks the paternal line, >with no influence of any females along that line. >Male's father's father's father's father's father's father (back >hundreds of years) >Women can not take this test. > >Both test can show if you have Indians or blacks in your line. > >The next choice is how many markers to buy, 12, 25 or 37. The more the >better. > >So far there are 11 Kilgore males that have taken the test and are >registered on the site. > >Anyway, go to the site. There is a tutorial. > >_________________________________________________________ > >OK now that we have covered the basics I have to cover one other point. > >Accuracy > >The test are accurate. They tell you what your genetic connection, >however that isn't necessarily the line you think it is. > >People fooled around in the old days just as much as they do today. >They also took kids in with no formal adoption. Women were raped. >Etc. Anthropological research has shown that world wide, young wives >tend to cheat on old husbands and women cheat more when they are most >fertile. > >I have a cousin that did not find out she was adopted until she was >about 55. She would have never known except another cousin told her. >Her parents died without telling her. > >When they first started the Y test, they wanted subjects that absolutely >KNEW who their fathers were. For example, the man looked just like his >father. His mother was a saint. His parents were married for years >before he was born. Of those men who KNEW who there father was... 1 >out of 7 were wrong. Those are mighty high odds. > >When I reminded someone of this in another group, one man told me that >my family may be full of sluts, but his wasn't! He was serious and >really nasty about it. My guess is that based on his reaction, he has >always questioned his genetic relationship to his father. Whatever, he >didn't need to be so nasty. I certainly didn't say he was >illegitimate. I just think people need to realize that they may >discover more than they want to know. > >Let me give you an example of how this can work. > >2 descendants of Henry Walker born 1820 both take the Y test. The test >shows they are closely related and have the same ancestor. Does that >mean that they are both out of Henry? Maybe. It could be that there >was a smooth talking, really handsome stud, named Frank, living near >Henry. Henry had no idea that Frank fathered all but one of Henry's >children and half the other children in the same town. Another of >Henry's descendants takes the test and he doesn't match the the other >two. They say he isn't related to Henry. The fact is that he could be >the only one related to Henry. Since we can't test Henry directly, we >have to go with the odds. The more people that take the test the more >accurate the group results. > >Clear as mud? > > > >* >* > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's limited to members of Ancestry. Are there any members out there? I'm not. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gail Kilgore<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] 50% off DNA testing Ohhhh, Ii like these prices better yet. Gail On 9/13/08, Jaelene Starr <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Ancestry.com has a 50% off special - I think until the end of the month. > Sale prices: > 33 chromosome paternal $74.50 > 46 chromosome paternal $99.50 > > Here is the link: > http://dna.ancestry.com/offer/worlddeluxesave50<http://dna.ancestry.com/offer/worlddeluxesave50> > > Jaelene > > > > > From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Sat, 13 Sep > 2008 12:22:10 -0500> Subject: [KILGORE] DNA Testing> > Does anyone know what > the going rate for a 37 marker test is? What is the cheapest rate?> Vickie> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does this mean that we are limited to using just one lab? Or does this Kilgore Surname Project collect results from different labs -what I mean is; Ancestry has a special this month for about $75.00 for 37 marker test according to Jaelene's message yesterday. This price is limited to only Ancestry's members though. But if someone used Ancestry's labs would the results get to this project or would Ancestry hold them for their own purposes? Does anyone know? ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 6:23 PM Subject: [KILGORE] Kilgore Surname Project Dear Cousins, For those who don't know me or my patrilineage. My name is Robert Lee (Kilgore) Stahn,I changed my name prior to going into the Navy.I never new my biological father,I was raised with the Stahn name. When I started doing my research I found a first cousin Jenna Scott who had all this wonderful Kilgore information and was kind enough to give me this information and saved me a lot of work. My line is: Robert Lee (Kilgore) Stahn b.1946 Theodore Roosevelt Kilgore b.1911 d. 1983 Walter Robert Killgore Sr.b.1873 d.1935 John Hardin Killgore b. 1835 d. 1901 Joseph T. Killgore b.1800 d.1860 William Killgore II b.1759 d. 1812 William Killgore I b. 1726 d. 1791. The Kilgore Surname Project at Familytreedna, has a Project Administrator. His name is Grier McFarland he can be reached [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> After being approved by the administrator and given a join code,I ordered my DNA kit today. The Y-DNA--Male 37 marker paternal test. The (group) price is US $119.00 + $4.00 shipping a Total of $123.00. It can be paid for by credit card or invoice. This Kilgore project currently has 11 members. I believe that the larger the group the better the cross reference of the various lines will be and we might find a connection that will join some of the lines. Hope this helps, Cousin Robert ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think I'm going about this wrong. I've made my arguments why the Robert Kilgore in Orange Co NC isn't the same as the Robert Kilgore who married Margaret Spencer in 1743. What are your arguments supporting this claim? Sincerely, Vickie ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Shaw<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA I now suspect that there are 3 john Kilgores, 1760, 1770 and 1775. I think the 1775 one might be the best choice. Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 fax 330 963 6858 cell 330 247 8543 phone 330 425 8819 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.engineeredspecialproducts.com<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickie Miller" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA >I don't know-I'm not concerned with John Kilgore b.1670 because he's not my >ancestor. Robert Kilgore & Margaret Spencer can not be the parents of the >children listed for them; therefore, this is not the Robert Kilgore listed >in NC in 1750. It's a false lineage. > Sincerely, > Vickie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Shaw<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:15 AM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA > > > Thanks Vicki, > Any suggestions on who should replace the John Kilgore b1670? > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > fax 330 963 6858 > cell 330 247 8543 > phone 330 425 8819 > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com%3chttp//www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/>> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vickie Miller" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>> > To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:08 AM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA > > > > According to the wills James Kilgore died 1771 of Chester & Cumberland > > Counties PA & his wife Elizabeth Jack Kilgore who died in 1792, they > did > > not have a son named Charles whom we believe was the brother of Robert > (M: > > Winnie Clayton). They did have a son named Robert though. But if you > are > > referring to James Kilgore's father as the John Kilgore who died in > 1731 > > Chester Co PA-then you are again looking at misinformation. This line > > once believed this man John Kilgore was the f/o James Kilgore-but later > > researchers found that this man died an almost penniless pauper in 1731 > > with no heirs. His estate was inventoried because his lodging house > owner > > requested the court to sell this John Kilgore's effects to pay for his > > lodging and burial. If James Kilgore had been this man's son, he would > > have been obligated to assume his father's debts as his heir. This > wasn't > > the case. > > Sorry, Vickie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bob > Shaw<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>> > > To: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:04 AM > > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA > > > > > > I would be glad to join the dna search. I believe my wife is > descended > > from > > James William Kilgore 1701-1771 (on your list) according to a living > > Cuthbertson descendent?John Evans. We have personal knowledge of > Nancy > > Kilgore, her father Rev. Robert Kilgore. The Cuthbertson gave us Rev. > > Robert's father as Robert Kilgore and his father as James William > > Kilgore. > > Matching dates and children's names, I believe Williams father is John > > Kilgore 1675 and his father is Gen Douglas Kilgore. > > > > When It comes to Kilgore stories, there is the 3 brother, 4 brother > and 7 > > brother accounts to recon with. > > > > Cousin-in-law and fruitcake want-to-be > > > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > > fax 330 963 6858 > > cell 330 247 8543 > > phone 330 425 8819 > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>> > > > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>> > > > > > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com%3chttp//www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com%3chttp//www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/%3Chttp://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com%3chttp//www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>>> > > To: > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>>> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA > > > > > > > > > > Since my last Kilgore ancestor was Charles Kilgore b 1740 and I > descend > > > from > > > his daughter, Mary, who married James Culbertson, obviously my DNA > > would > > > prove nothing. I am involved in both the Walker and Maples YDNA > > > projects so > > > can say from experience that you may get no matches or you might get > > > totally > > > surprised or shocked! The Walker YDNA tests revealed that my line > > does > > > not > > > descend from the ancestor that we had always thought and the Maples > > YDNA > > > does > > > not match anyone at 37 markers. > > > > > > Here is the 11 earliest known ancestors shown on the Kilgore site in > > case > > > anyone descends from them. > > > > > > John Kilgore b 1849 Ireland > > > Thomas Kilgore b ca1815 Harbins, Walton Co., Ga > > > R.L. Kilgore (Northern Ireland) > > > James William Kilgore b 1701 Ireland d 1771 Pa > > > James W. Kilgore b ca 1701 Ireland d 1771 Pa > > > L Kilgore > > > JE Kilgore > > > GL Kilgore > > > H Kilgore > > > > > > We might want to consider joining this Kilgore Project, especially > if > > > someone on the list descends from one of these ancestors. I, too, > > would > > > be willing > > > to contribute to the fund to finance testing for any of the male > > Kilgores > > > who are willing to be tested. > > > > > > Gladys Forgety > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/9/2008 6:17:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>> > writes: > > > > > > My daughter has studied genetics for many years. She researched > the > > > sites and said this one seems to give the most for the money. > > > > http://www.familytreedna.com/<http://www.familytreedna.com/<http://www.familytreedna.com/%3Chttp://www.familytreedna.com/<http://www.familytreedna.com/%3Chttp://www.familytreedna.com/%3Chttp://www.familytreedna.com/%3Chttp://www.familytreedna.com/>>> > > > > > > > > > There are two basic test. > > > > > > 1. Mitochondria (mtDNA) is only done through the female line. > > > Female's Mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother (back > > > hundreds of years) > > > Male's Mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother (back > > > hundreds of years) > > > A child can not test his or her father's mother's line. > > > > > > 2. Y-DNA: By testing the Y-DNA, males can determine the origin of > > their > > > paternal line. Note that the Y-DNA strictly checks the paternal > line, > > > with no influence of any females along that line. > > > Male's father's father's father's father's father's father (back > > > hundreds of years) > > > Women can not take this test. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ursulakilgore1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/1611/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello my name Ursula Kilgore, My Grandfathers name is Booker T Kilgore he passed about 6 years ado just wondering is any of his family left ?? He was married to Mytrle Kilgore has lived in detriot michigan for as long as I have been born and I will be 30 here shortly can any one help me??? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have sent the following to the FamilyTreeDNA people with a copy to [email protected], and included a request to join the project. I understand that FamilyTree is located in Houston, so there could be a delay, considering the hurricane and all: Christopher P. Kilgore, b. GA 1953 son of G. A. Jack Kilgore, b. TX, 1922 son of William Henry Kilgore, b. TX 1878, d. TX 1963 son of Josiah Calvin Kilgore, b. AL 1847, d. TX 1927 son of James M. Kilgore, b. TN 1812, d. TX 1888. The foregoing is known and proven. James M. Kilgore may have been the son of Thomas Kilgore, b. NC abt. 1783, who is connected with Stephen Clayton Kilgore, b. 1767, either a son, or may be the last son of Robert Kilgore of Virginia, b. abt 1740, d. 12.31.1782. <[email protected]> wrote: >Kit, I am currently in contact with Grier McFarland >Project Administrator- Kilgore DNA Project. I had to try a direct e-mail >since my familytree e-mail reply said that it had invalid e-mail addresses. >I contacted him at [email protected] They are interested in having new >members. If anyone is is interested please contact him. >Cousin,Robert >Arlington Texas > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:33 AM >Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA > > >Dear Cousins, >RE: DNA > >I contacted them (familytreedna.com)late last Spring (2008).  I reported my >known lineage back to my great-great grandfather Kilgore.  I heard two weeks >later from the company, but not from the family site administrator, and so >was not able to follow through on the testing.    I will try again with >Familytreedna.  Thank you for the information that they seem to be the best. >If they answer me this time, I will do the test for as many markers as I can >reasonably afford. > >Christopher (Kit) Kilgore > >D Rennow <[email protected]> wrote: > >>My daughter has studied genetics for many years. She researched the >>sites and said this one seems to give the most for the money. >>http://www.familytreedna.com/ >> >> >>There are two basic test. >> >>1. Mitochondria (mtDNA) is only done through the female line. >>Female's Mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother (back >>hundreds of years) >>Male's Mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother (back >>hundreds of years) >>A child can not test his or her father's mother's line. >> >>2. Y-DNA: By testing the Y-DNA, males can determine the origin of their >>paternal line. Note that the Y-DNA strictly checks the paternal line, >>with no influence of any females along that line. >>Male's father's father's father's father's father's father (back >>hundreds of years) >>Women can not take this test. >> >>Both test can show if you have Indians or blacks in your line. >> >>The next choice is how many markers to buy, 12, 25 or 37. The more the >>better. >> >>So far there are 11 Kilgore males that have taken the test and are >>registered on the site. >> >>Anyway, go to the site. There is a tutorial. >> >>_________________________________________________________ >> >>OK now that we have covered the basics I have to cover one other point. >> >>Accuracy >> >>The test are accurate. They tell you what your genetic connection, >>however that isn't necessarily the line you think it is. >> >>People fooled around in the old days just as much as they do today. >>They also took kids in with no formal adoption. Women were raped. >>Etc. Anthropological research has shown that world wide, young wives >>tend to cheat on old husbands and women cheat more when they are most >>fertile. >> >>I have a cousin that did not find out she was adopted until she was >>about 55. She would have never known except another cousin told her. >>Her parents died without telling her. >> >>When they first started the Y test, they wanted subjects that absolutely >>KNEW who their fathers were. For example, the man looked just like his >>father. His mother was a saint. His parents were married for years >>before he was born. Of those men who KNEW who there father was... 1 >>out of 7 were wrong. Those are mighty high odds. >> >>When I reminded someone of this in another group, one man told me that >>my family may be full of sluts, but his wasn't! He was serious and >>really nasty about it. My guess is that based on his reaction, he has >>always questioned his genetic relationship to his father. Whatever, he >>didn't need to be so nasty. I certainly didn't say he was >>illegitimate. I just think people need to realize that they may >>discover more than they want to know. >> >>Let me give you an example of how this can work. >> >>2 descendants of Henry Walker born 1820 both take the Y test. The test >>shows they are closely related and have the same ancestor. Does that >>mean that they are both out of Henry? Maybe. It could be that there >>was a smooth talking, really handsome stud, named Frank, living near >>Henry. Henry had no idea that Frank fathered all but one of Henry's >>children and half the other children in the same town. Another of >>Henry's descendants takes the test and he doesn't match the the other >>two. They say he isn't related to Henry. The fact is that he could be >>the only one related to Henry. Since we can't test Henry directly, we >>have to go with the odds. The more people that take the test the more >>accurate the group results. >> >>Clear as mud? >> >> >> >>* >>* >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I think we should join this Kilgore project. We need the reference and our lines may well connect with one already tested. In my Walker line, we still do not know the relationship of the closest match and my first known ancestor but same time line so perhaps brothers. But at least our group now know we are family and of the same line. Before DNA testing, we thought these were separate lines. This may also prove to be the case with the Kilgores. Gladys In a message dated 9/13/2008 7:23:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Dear Cousins, For those who don't know me or my patrilineage. My name is Robert Lee (Kilgore) Stahn,I changed my name prior to going into the Navy.I never new my biological father,I was raised with the Stahn name. When I started doing my research I found a first cousin Jenna Scott who had all this wonderful Kilgore information and was kind enough to give me this information and saved me a lot of work. My line is: Robert Lee (Kilgore) Stahn b.1946 Theodore Roosevelt Kilgore b.1911 d. 1983 Walter Robert Killgore Sr.b.1873 d.1935 John Hardin Killgore b. 1835 d. 1901 Joseph T. Killgore b.1800 d.1860 William Killgore II b.1759 d. 1812 William Killgore I b. 1726 d. 1791. The Kilgore Surname Project at Familytreedna, has a Project Administrator. His name is Grier McFarland he can be reached [email protected] After being approved by the administrator and given a join code,I ordered my DNA kit today. The Y-DNA--Male 37 marker paternal test. The (group) price is US $119.00 + $4.00 shipping a Total of $123.00. It can be paid for by credit card or invoice. This Kilgore project currently has 11 members. I believe that the larger the group the better the cross reference of the various lines will be and we might find a connection that will join some of the lines. Hope this helps, Cousin Robert **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

If I send Jack's DNA in and someone from the other line sends theirs in and they have matching markers, that would mean that the common ancestor is across the pond more than likely. Right??? Gail

Ohhhh, Ii like these prices better yet. Gail On 9/13/08, Jaelene Starr <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ancestry.com has a 50% off special - I think until the end of the month. > Sale prices: > 33 chromosome paternal $74.50 > 46 chromosome paternal $99.50 > > Here is the link: > http://dna.ancestry.com/offer/worlddeluxesave50 > > Jaelene > > > > > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sat, 13 Sep > 2008 12:22:10 -0500> Subject: [KILGORE] DNA Testing> > Does anyone know what > the going rate for a 37 marker test is? What is the cheapest rate?> Vickie> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Correct, except if you changed your name from Kilgore to something else, you would still descend from Kilgore and be eligible....but might have to explain. Gladys In a message dated 9/13/2008 7:41:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi all, Someone correct me if I am wrong. But I did the testing on my line (Myatt) and it had to be done by direct male descendants. So my question is does it have to be direct line male descendants (those who still have the Kilgore name)? If so, that is who we need to get tested and the rest of can help defray the cost (which I am happy to do). Ron **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

I will pay for my son's DNA testing. He is a Kilgore descendant from his mother's side. A descendant of Robert Kilgore of the Kings Mountain group. Please tell me what company to contact? Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 fax 330 963 6858 cell 330 247 8543 phone 330 425 8819 [email protected] [email protected] www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry Arnold" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA Testing >I have contributed to a couple of different projects this year. I am not >an > authority on DNA but more than willing to do my part. One of my projects > had an offer for only $75 which three of us split; on another one there > were > 5 of us and we contributed $25. There seems to be a larger group here so > mybe it could be less? Also it depends on the marker as to the cost? I > think it should be at least a 37 marker? Is $150 a ballpark figure? Are > there at least 15 on this list that would/could contribute $10? I think > Vickie has summed it up very well. I think $150 may be the going rate for > 37 markers, and we probably can;t get it together in time to take > advantage > of the September 30th deadline for the reduced rate??? > > So who's on first!!! lol Who is our 'in residence authoity' on DNA!!! A > comment on testing two from the same line, that sometimes turns up a > surprise... So not even that is a waste??? > > Sherry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vickie Miller" <[email protected]> > To: "Kilgore" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:59 AM > Subject: [KILGORE] DNA Testing > > >> I'd like to make a few suggestions. Has anyone determined whether the >> DNA >> testing site with the reduced rates is valid? If so, then that puts us >> on >> a deadline if we're going to get the ball rolling on this. >> First- I'd like to suggest that someone either be chosen or volunteers to >> coordinate this-preferrably with experience in either handling this sort >> of thing or with DNA testing (despite the fact that I'm making >> suggestions, I have experience in neither and am not volunteering myself) >> Second-that once that person has been chosen, then those of us who wish >> to >> donate then first PLEDGE the amount they wish to donate to the >> volunteer-that way if not enough interest or action takes place it will >> eliminate the bother for the volunteer to have to return money to those >> donating? That way, we'll also have an idea whether enough is being >> pledged to actually make this feasible at this time? >> Third-I'd suggest that the pledges be made directly to the volunteer >> OFF-LIST-that way the volunteer will receive the pledge directly to him >> and not have to wade through the list and sort out who's pledging? This >> will keep it better organized for that person-also in this time of >> belt-tightening it might be more comfortable for some to make their >> pledges anonymously (so to speak) directly to the volunteer and not to >> the >> list-perhaps more will respond? >> Fourth-Once someone is chosen, a deadline is set for the pledges to be >> given to the volunteer so that we can have an idea whether this is going >> to fly at this time? The volunteer can keep us apprised of the total and >> that way we'll know if this is a go or not. It may be, that we won't be >> able to get this project off the ground at this time, and may have to >> defer it to some future date. >> Fifth-It's my understanding that we need male DNA responders who have a >> direct line to our ancestors-we need to determine how many lines we >> represent and possibly what lines we want to focus on and what lines have >> already been tested-to avoid redundancy. It would be stupid if two >> descendants of say Robert & Winnie get tested while a descendant of say >> Ralph Kilgore of GA doesn't and so on. We need to focus our resources. >> >> What do you think? >> Sincerely, >> Vickie >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I would like to nominate Charles Kilgore (Martha) of Green Co TN. Do we have many of his descendants on this list? 1. Vickie Miller 2. Gladys Forgety 3. Roy Kilgore 4. Sherry Arnold Please add your name if you descend from Charles.\ Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Shaw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA Testing > Someone needs to start a list: with the name of the living person and > their > known or suspected ancestors. > Then we can select from that list, as the donations come in. > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > fax 330 963 6858 > cell 330 247 8543 > phone 330 425 8819 > [email protected] > [email protected] > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J Jerome" <[email protected]> > To: "Sherry Arnold" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:24 PM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA Testing > > >>I am willing to make a reasonable contribution for someone that might help >>us get past the William Sr. brick wall (land grant in Augusta, GA in >>1755). >>I am a part of the Robert Greer Kilgore line back to William Sr., but >>can't >>seem to get past him in 1755. I think it would be great if we could get a >>results for a couple from the lines we think may connect and see what we >>find. >> >> Jennifer >> >> -------------- Original message -------------- >> From: "Sherry Arnold" <[email protected]> >> >>> I have contributed to a couple of different projects this year. I am not >>> an >>> authority on DNA but more than willing to do my part. One of my projects >>> had an offer for only $75 which three of us split; on another one there >>> were >>> 5 of us and we contributed $25. There seems to be a larger group here so >>> mybe it could be less? Also it depends on the marker as to the cost? I >>> think it should be at least a 37 marker? Is $150 a ballpark figure? Are >>> there at least 15 on this list that would/could contribute $10? I think >>> Vickie has summed it up very well. I think $150 may be the going rate >>> for >>> 37 markers, and we probably can;t get it together in time to take >>> advantage >>> of the September 30th deadline for the reduced rate??? >>> >>> So who's on first!!! lol Who is our 'in residence authoity' on DNA!!! A >>> comment on testing two from the same line, that sometimes turns up a >>> surprise... So not even that is a waste??? >>> >>> Sherry >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Vickie Miller" >>> To: "Kilgore" >>> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:59 AM >>> Subject: [KILGORE] DNA Testing >>> >>> >>> > I'd like to make a few suggestions. Has anyone determined whether the >>> > DNA >>> > testing site with the reduced rates is valid? If so, then that puts us >>> > on >>> > a deadline if we're going to get the ball rolling on this. >>> > First- I'd like to suggest that someone either be chosen or volunteers >>> > to >>> > coordinate this-preferrably with experience in either handling this >>> > sort >>> > of thing or with DNA testing (despite the fact that I'm making >>> > suggestions, I have experience in neither and am not volunteering >>> > myself) >>> > Second-that once that person has been chosen, then those of us who >>> > wish >>> > to >>> > donate then first PLEDGE the amount they wish to donate to the >>> > volunteer-that way if not enough interest or action takes place it >>> > will >>> > eliminate the bother for the volunteer to have to return money to >>> > those >>> > donating? That way, we'll also have an idea whether enough is being >>> > pledged to actually make this feasible at this time? >>> > Third-I'd suggest that the pledges be made directly to the volunteer >>> > OFF-LIST-that way the volunteer will receive the pledge directly to >>> > him >>> > and not have to wade through the list and sort out who's pledging? >>> > This >>> > will keep it better organized for that person-also in this time of >>> > belt-tightening it might be more comfortable for some to make their >>> > pledges anonymously (so to speak) directly to the volunteer and not to >>> > the >>> > list-perhaps more will respond? >>> > Fourth-Once someone is chosen, a deadline is set for the pledges to be >>> > given to the volunteer so that we can have an idea whether this is >>> > going >>> > to fly at this time? The volunteer can keep us apprised of the total >>> > and >>> > that way we'll know if this is a go or not. It may be, that we won't >>> > be >>> > able to get this project off the ground at this time, and may have to >>> > defer it to some future date. >>> > Fifth-It's my understanding that we need male DNA responders who have >>> > a >>> > direct line to our ancestors-we need to determine how many lines we >>> > represent and possibly what lines we want to focus on and what lines >>> > have >>> > already been tested-to avoid redundancy. It would be stupid if two >>> > descendants of say Robert & Winnie get tested while a descendant of >>> > say >>> > Ralph Kilgore of GA doesn't and so on. We need to focus our resources. >>> > >>> > What do you think? >>> > Sincerely, >>> > Vickie >>> > >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in >>> the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Cousins, For those who don't know me or my patrilineage. My name is Robert Lee (Kilgore) Stahn,I changed my name prior to going into the Navy.I never new my biological father,I was raised with the Stahn name. When I started doing my research I found a first cousin Jenna Scott who had all this wonderful Kilgore information and was kind enough to give me this information and saved me a lot of work. My line is: Robert Lee (Kilgore) Stahn b.1946 Theodore Roosevelt Kilgore b.1911 d. 1983 Walter Robert Killgore Sr.b.1873 d.1935 John Hardin Killgore b. 1835 d. 1901 Joseph T. Killgore b.1800 d.1860 William Killgore II b.1759 d. 1812 William Killgore I b. 1726 d. 1791. The Kilgore Surname Project at Familytreedna, has a Project Administrator. His name is Grier McFarland he can be reached [email protected] After being approved by the administrator and given a join code,I ordered my DNA kit today. The Y-DNA--Male 37 marker paternal test. The (group) price is US $119.00 + $4.00 shipping a Total of $123.00. It can be paid for by credit card or invoice. This Kilgore project currently has 11 members. I believe that the larger the group the better the cross reference of the various lines will be and we might find a connection that will join some of the lines. Hope this helps, Cousin Robert

I now suspect that there are 3 john Kilgores, 1760, 1770 and 1775. I think the 1775 one might be the best choice. Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 fax 330 963 6858 cell 330 247 8543 phone 330 425 8819 [email protected] [email protected] www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickie Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA >I don't know-I'm not concerned with John Kilgore b.1670 because he's not my >ancestor. Robert Kilgore & Margaret Spencer can not be the parents of the >children listed for them; therefore, this is not the Robert Kilgore listed >in NC in 1750. It's a false lineage. > Sincerely, > Vickie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Shaw<mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:15 AM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA > > > Thanks Vicki, > Any suggestions on who should replace the John Kilgore b1670? > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > fax 330 963 6858 > cell 330 247 8543 > phone 330 425 8819 > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vickie Miller" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:08 AM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA > > > > According to the wills James Kilgore died 1771 of Chester & Cumberland > > Counties PA & his wife Elizabeth Jack Kilgore who died in 1792, they > did > > not have a son named Charles whom we believe was the brother of Robert > (M: > > Winnie Clayton). They did have a son named Robert though. But if you > are > > referring to James Kilgore's father as the John Kilgore who died in > 1731 > > Chester Co PA-then you are again looking at misinformation. This line > > once believed this man John Kilgore was the f/o James Kilgore-but later > > researchers found that this man died an almost penniless pauper in 1731 > > with no heirs. His estate was inventoried because his lodging house > owner > > requested the court to sell this John Kilgore's effects to pay for his > > lodging and burial. If James Kilgore had been this man's son, he would > > have been obligated to assume his father's debts as his heir. This > wasn't > > the case. > > Sorry, Vickie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bob > Shaw<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > To: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:04 AM > > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA > > > > > > I would be glad to join the dna search. I believe my wife is > descended > > from > > James William Kilgore 1701-1771 (on your list) according to a living > > Cuthbertson descendent?John Evans. We have personal knowledge of > Nancy > > Kilgore, her father Rev. Robert Kilgore. The Cuthbertson gave us Rev. > > Robert's father as Robert Kilgore and his father as James William > > Kilgore. > > Matching dates and children's names, I believe Williams father is John > > Kilgore 1675 and his father is Gen Douglas Kilgore. > > > > When It comes to Kilgore stories, there is the 3 brother, 4 brother > and 7 > > brother accounts to recon with. > > > > Cousin-in-law and fruitcake want-to-be > > > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > > fax 330 963 6858 > > cell 330 247 8543 > > phone 330 425 8819 > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com%3chttp//www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>> > > To: > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA > > > > > > > > > > Since my last Kilgore ancestor was Charles Kilgore b 1740 and I > descend > > > from > > > his daughter, Mary, who married James Culbertson, obviously my DNA > > would > > > prove nothing. I am involved in both the Walker and Maples YDNA > > > projects so > > > can say from experience that you may get no matches or you might get > > > totally > > > surprised or shocked! The Walker YDNA tests revealed that my line > > does > > > not > > > descend from the ancestor that we had always thought and the Maples > > YDNA > > > does > > > not match anyone at 37 markers. > > > > > > Here is the 11 earliest known ancestors shown on the Kilgore site in > > case > > > anyone descends from them. > > > > > > John Kilgore b 1849 Ireland > > > Thomas Kilgore b ca1815 Harbins, Walton Co., Ga > > > R.L. Kilgore (Northern Ireland) > > > James William Kilgore b 1701 Ireland d 1771 Pa > > > James W. Kilgore b ca 1701 Ireland d 1771 Pa > > > L Kilgore > > > JE Kilgore > > > GL Kilgore > > > H Kilgore > > > > > > We might want to consider joining this Kilgore Project, especially > if > > > someone on the list descends from one of these ancestors. I, too, > > would > > > be willing > > > to contribute to the fund to finance testing for any of the male > > Kilgores > > > who are willing to be tested. > > > > > > Gladys Forgety > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/9/2008 6:17:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > writes: > > > > > > My daughter has studied genetics for many years. She researched > the > > > sites and said this one seems to give the most for the money. > > > > http://www.familytreedna.com/<http://www.familytreedna.com/<http://www.familytreedna.com/%3Chttp://www.familytreedna.com/>> > > > > > > > > > There are two basic test. > > > > > > 1. Mitochondria (mtDNA) is only done through the female line. > > > Female's Mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother (back > > > hundreds of years) > > > Male's Mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother (back > > > hundreds of years) > > > A child can not test his or her father's mother's line. > > > > > > 2. Y-DNA: By testing the Y-DNA, males can determine the origin of > > their > > > paternal line. Note that the Y-DNA strictly checks the paternal > line, > > > with no influence of any females along that line. > > > Male's father's father's father's father's father's father (back > > > hundreds of years) > > > Women can not take this test. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? 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Someone needs to start a list: with the name of the living person and their known or suspected ancestors. Then we can select from that list, as the donations come in. Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 fax 330 963 6858 cell 330 247 8543 phone 330 425 8819 [email protected] [email protected] www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "J Jerome" <[email protected]> To: "Sherry Arnold" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA Testing >I am willing to make a reasonable contribution for someone that might help >us get past the William Sr. brick wall (land grant in Augusta, GA in 1755). >I am a part of the Robert Greer Kilgore line back to William Sr., but can't >seem to get past him in 1755. I think it would be great if we could get a >results for a couple from the lines we think may connect and see what we >find. > > Jennifer > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Sherry Arnold" <[email protected]> > >> I have contributed to a couple of different projects this year. I am not >> an >> authority on DNA but more than willing to do my part. One of my projects >> had an offer for only $75 which three of us split; on another one there >> were >> 5 of us and we contributed $25. There seems to be a larger group here so >> mybe it could be less? Also it depends on the marker as to the cost? I >> think it should be at least a 37 marker? Is $150 a ballpark figure? Are >> there at least 15 on this list that would/could contribute $10? I think >> Vickie has summed it up very well. I think $150 may be the going rate for >> 37 markers, and we probably can;t get it together in time to take >> advantage >> of the September 30th deadline for the reduced rate??? >> >> So who's on first!!! lol Who is our 'in residence authoity' on DNA!!! A >> comment on testing two from the same line, that sometimes turns up a >> surprise... So not even that is a waste??? >> >> Sherry >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Vickie Miller" >> To: "Kilgore" >> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:59 AM >> Subject: [KILGORE] DNA Testing >> >> >> > I'd like to make a few suggestions. Has anyone determined whether the >> > DNA >> > testing site with the reduced rates is valid? If so, then that puts us >> > on >> > a deadline if we're going to get the ball rolling on this. >> > First- I'd like to suggest that someone either be chosen or volunteers >> > to >> > coordinate this-preferrably with experience in either handling this >> > sort >> > of thing or with DNA testing (despite the fact that I'm making >> > suggestions, I have experience in neither and am not volunteering >> > myself) >> > Second-that once that person has been chosen, then those of us who wish >> > to >> > donate then first PLEDGE the amount they wish to donate to the >> > volunteer-that way if not enough interest or action takes place it will >> > eliminate the bother for the volunteer to have to return money to those >> > donating? That way, we'll also have an idea whether enough is being >> > pledged to actually make this feasible at this time? >> > Third-I'd suggest that the pledges be made directly to the volunteer >> > OFF-LIST-that way the volunteer will receive the pledge directly to him >> > and not have to wade through the list and sort out who's pledging? This >> > will keep it better organized for that person-also in this time of >> > belt-tightening it might be more comfortable for some to make their >> > pledges anonymously (so to speak) directly to the volunteer and not to >> > the >> > list-perhaps more will respond? >> > Fourth-Once someone is chosen, a deadline is set for the pledges to be >> > given to the volunteer so that we can have an idea whether this is >> > going >> > to fly at this time? The volunteer can keep us apprised of the total >> > and >> > that way we'll know if this is a go or not. It may be, that we won't be >> > able to get this project off the ground at this time, and may have to >> > defer it to some future date. >> > Fifth-It's my understanding that we need male DNA responders who have a >> > direct line to our ancestors-we need to determine how many lines we >> > represent and possibly what lines we want to focus on and what lines >> > have >> > already been tested-to avoid redundancy. It would be stupid if two >> > descendants of say Robert & Winnie get tested while a descendant of say >> > Ralph Kilgore of GA doesn't and so on. We need to focus our resources. >> > >> > What do you think? >> > Sincerely, >> > Vickie >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I am a member of this list, descended from Barbara Kilgore Watly. I would like to join in with helping on the funding for you project. You can count me in to donate what everyone agrees upon donating. I would love to see the lines clarified a bit more. Just let me know where to send a check when the decision is finally made. Jeannette Keller

Ancestry.com has a 50% off special - I think until the end of the month. Sale prices: 33 chromosome paternal $74.50 46 chromosome paternal $99.50 Here is the link: http://dna.ancestry.com/offer/worlddeluxesave50 Jaelene > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:22:10 -0500> Subject: [KILGORE] DNA Testing> > Does anyone know what the going rate for a 37 marker test is? What is the cheapest rate?> Vickie> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message