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    1. Re: [KYL&F] newspaper
    2. Jan Craven
    3. Not at all wierd. Newspaper is a good insulator and it probably made the house warmer. They may have been poor, but they were pretty smart and very resourceful! My Gramma used to cover up with the paper sometimes in the fall or spring to take her afternoon nap. Did all ya'lls old folks take naps in the afternoon too? We had to be SOOOO quiet while they slept. Then when they woke up, everyone would have coffee. Kids had coffee milk..Still have my coffee that way!! BTW, I DO have at least one ancestress who came from KY. Her name was Dicy. She was either an Anderson or a Webster...not sure, but in the 1836 (first Texas) Census she was 44 years old. Then in the 1850 fed census she was 45. I like to think that I inherited her anti aging genes! She was married to Peter Whetstone who founded the town of Marshall TX. If there are any Anderson's out there, let me know. They were closely associated (living next to) Bailey Anderson in that first TX Census and named a child Anderson, so I really feel like she was an Anderson. Jan At 10:00 AM 9/18/1999 -0500, Leona Crist wrote: >Ok, maybe I will be throwing this out there and nobody elses's home did that, but I'll give it a try anyhow. My grandparents were so poor that on all of their walls in their house, instead of wallpaper, paint, they hung newspaper or magazines on the wall.. I revisited this home after about 20 years (long after they had passed away) and the funny thing was that they same paper was on the walls. They house was just about to fall in, but for memories sake I picked some off the walls and have it put away. That probably sounds pretty weird to everyone, but its a neat memory. Leona > > >

    09/18/1999 09:25:13
    1. Re: [KYL&F] Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] FEEDSACKS
    2. Jan Craven
    3. Well, I can't stand it!! You folks can kick this La Gal out if you wish. My dad had a dairy farm and the man who owned the feed store would call my grandma when a new feed shipment came in and she'd go to the store and pick out which patterns she wanted. She knew how many sacks it took to make a dress or pinnafore for me or a blouse or a dress for her or Mama. When the dresses were worn out we made quilts from them or the scraps from the dresses. In the summer time they (Gramma and her sisters) would piece the quilts and then quilt them in the winter time. When one of my great aunt's died, I got a trunk that had belonged to my Gramma. In it were 5 old quilt tops that had never been quilted. I am working now on the 4th one. They are wonderful. I really envy you folks who still have some of those old feedsacks. I'd love to have some. Love Ya'll! Jan At 10:18 AM 9/18/1999 -0400, Pat Oneal wrote: > The lady who ran the neighborhood grocery wore feedsack dresses all the >time with her comfort shoes. My mother used the sacks mostly for making her >bib aprons and sunbonnets. As I recall, there were some very pretty >patterns in those flour sacks. And one sack would make a little girls >dress. I still find them now and then in antique shops. Most were made >into dish towels. I made a fireboard once using the neighborhood grocery as >one of the houses in my fireboard (Elsie's Store). You could see the >potbellied stove thru the window, and I painted signs on the front of the >store--one was a 'Camel's Cigarettes' sign. (The camel actually looked like >a camel---instead of a humpback dog!!). Pat >-----Original Message----- >From: Lynn McKay <granny2Lynne@LORETTOTEL.NET> >To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com ><KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> >Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 7:41 AM >Subject: [KYL&F] Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] sunbonnets > > >>Yes, yes, yes! I never had a "store-boughten" dress until I was in high >>school. All my "sunday-go-to-meetin" clothes were made from the feed >sacks. >> >>Just last year for Christmas, I made quilted maps of the states my family >>members live in and used a pile of those feed sacks from my mothers' stash >>for back ground and borders. She had over a dozen left that she had used >>for table scarves, etc., right on up to 1997. >> >>And I remember the pinafores from very early in my life. >> >>Lynn >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mbdiggin@aol.com <Mbdiggin@aol.com> >>To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com >><KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> >>Date: Friday, September 17, 1999 10:19 PM >>Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] sunbonnets >> >> >>>I remember the sunbonnets. Grandma was a great seamstress and sold for >>>people other than family. She would make her own out of feed sack >>material. >>>Does anyone remember the chicken feed that came in pretty flowered feed >>>sacks. I have worn many a dress made by my mother or grandma made from >>them >>>and they were very pretty. Most of the time she made me pinafores. Does >>>anyone remember those? >>>Mary >>> >> >> > > > >

    09/18/1999 09:08:52
    1. [KYL&F] Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] sunbonnets
    2. Jan Craven
    3. The old Cajun ladies still wear them down here in s. LA. Love em. I had one when I was a little girl! Jan At 07:55 PM 9/17/1999 -0400, barbara wrote: >Hi everyone > How many of you remember the old sunbonnets our grandmothers use to wear? > > > > >barbara > > >

    09/18/1999 08:50:28
    1. Re: [KYL&F] WHERE IS EVERYONE TODAY?
    2. Sandy
    3. Well, I am here, but trying to unpack from my adventure with Floyd (I had the car packed as it could be). I would like to know more about the Bell Witch. I am checking computer at intervals as I unpack, clean house and cook. Sandy Ramona wrote: > What happened to our discussion on: > The Bell Witch > Poodle Skirts > Sun Bonnets > Aprons > Where is everyone? > Let me know. > Sincerely, > Ramona

    09/18/1999 08:17:09
    1. [KYL&F] WHERE IS EVERYONE TODAY?
    2. Ramona
    3. What happened to our discussion on: The Bell Witch Poodle Skirts Sun Bonnets Aprons Where is everyone? Let me know. Sincerely, Ramona

    09/18/1999 07:57:58
    1. [KYL&F] WELCOME TO OUR NEW SUBSCRIBERS
    2. Ramona
    3. A Warm Welcome to: THE ROSS FAMILY SUNNI CAROLE JANET SHERRY ANNE Please tell us a little about yourself and feel free to offer suggestions and comments on anything you would like to discuss here on Legends or any thing you can think of to improve Kentucky Legends. Sincerely, Ramona

    09/18/1999 07:32:45
    1. [KYL&F] Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] KENTUCKY LEGENDS
    2. Ramona
    3. Hi Joann, Our Love and Prayers are with you at this sad time. Please let us how your Aunt is getting along. Your Sturgill Kin, Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: Joann Holland <joemar@kyol.net> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 9:50 PM Subject: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] KENTUCKY LEGENDS > eVERYBODY; > > I do not know how much I will be on here for a day or two. > My mother's sister is in the hospital and I have been running > and trying to help Mom and see to her too. She has lived with > Mom since dad died in March and now she is in ICU and no > one knows exactly what is wrong with her. Love you all and > will miss being with you. > Joann > >

    09/18/1999 07:21:40
    1. [KYL&F] WHO MENTIONED POODLE SKIRTS?
    2. Ramona
    3. I remember the Poodle skirts and those big petticoats we wore under them. For some reason---the more petticoats--I think the petticoats had a wire sewed into the hem for maximum puffing (is this a word?) of one's skirt or dress. The farther out one's dress or skirt went the more esteemed one was. It was like having the best spit curls--or the most fake fur collars to put on one's sweaters. Remember when it was the Fad to wear your cardigan backwards? Where is the 50 tunes---Remember--At the Hop? And some great love songs---In the Still of the Night---For Your Precious Love---One Night With You! Oh WOW! Ramona

    09/18/1999 06:43:41
    1. None
    2. benttree
    3. Speaking of string, my grandmother made a beautiful bedspread that she crocheted totally out of string. It was very lacy looking, but very heavy to take on and off the bed. She put a colored sheet under it in later years. I have always loved that bedspread. Nancy: benttree@bright.net

    09/18/1999 05:01:55
    1. [KYL&F] Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE]
    2. Penny Fraley Richardson
    3. I still have my grandmother's clothes pin holder. It has a metal coat hanger inside so she could hand it on the clothes line. Does any one have one of the old string holders? My grandma had hers hung in the kitchen. It was made from an oatmeal box had a bonnet on her head and embroidered face features. String was pulled out of her mouth. My grandma's is really yellow with age, but I still love her. Have a great weekend. Penny

    09/18/1999 04:38:46
    1. Re: [KYL&F] Farm LIfe
    2. Pat Oneal
    3. Richard, Your childhood is totally different to mine. I'm fascinated with the various stories from others. Sometimes people think 'living in a small southern town' is the same as living in the country, or is country! It isn't! I was raised in a small town, with lots of farms on the outskirts of town, but I knew nothing about farm life. I often visited the farmers with my parents, and loved going through the barns and playing with the new little piglets, but as far as knowing anything about riding horses or milking cows, I knew none of those things. The closest I came to feeding chickens were those we got at Easter, you know--the little colored chicks. Of course, we were going to raise them, then eat them. That's like saying you're going to eat your pet parakeet!!!! Pat -----Original Message----- From: RichPump <RichPump@wf.net> To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [KYL&F] GOOD MORNING EVERYONE! >Romona: Like that Prepend was going to suggest shorting yesterday. You >must be mind reader? I was just thinking about early jobs that I had as >youngster. We lived in Va. at that stage of life. Winter trapped muskrat >and mink, summers hunted groundhogs for horse farms around. Some of the >best hot tea I ever had came while working early morning milking cows. >Nothing better than tea with fresh milk. Richard... > > > >Ramona wrote: >> >> Well it was sure good to see everyone sharing and helping on Legends >> yesterday. >> I have to read the messages to find out what we are doing and discussing. >> Anyone who has an idea to get things going this morning---please go right >> ahead. >> I have to print off our messages---then read them. >> I still can not sit for very long---bear with me please. >> Ramona >> LOL > >-- > Mailto:RichPump@wf.net ICQ # 898319 > > HOWLAND-L List Co-ordinator ILTAZEWE-L List Co-ordinator > VARNER-L List Co-ordinator TXYOUNG-L List Co-ordinator > ILPIATT-L List Co-ordinator WOODWORKING-L list Co-ordinator > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilpiatt/piatt.htm > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richpump/YoungCountyCemPage.htm > http://www.wf.net/~richpump/HowlandOnLine.html > >

    09/18/1999 04:34:54
    1. Re: [KYL&F] Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] FEEDSACKS
    2. Pat Oneal
    3. The lady who ran the neighborhood grocery wore feedsack dresses all the time with her comfort shoes. My mother used the sacks mostly for making her bib aprons and sunbonnets. As I recall, there were some very pretty patterns in those flour sacks. And one sack would make a little girls dress. I still find them now and then in antique shops. Most were made into dish towels. I made a fireboard once using the neighborhood grocery as one of the houses in my fireboard (Elsie's Store). You could see the potbellied stove thru the window, and I painted signs on the front of the store--one was a 'Camel's Cigarettes' sign. (The camel actually looked like a camel---instead of a humpback dog!!). Pat -----Original Message----- From: Lynn McKay <granny2Lynne@LORETTOTEL.NET> To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 7:41 AM Subject: [KYL&F] Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] sunbonnets >Yes, yes, yes! I never had a "store-boughten" dress until I was in high >school. All my "sunday-go-to-meetin" clothes were made from the feed sacks. > >Just last year for Christmas, I made quilted maps of the states my family >members live in and used a pile of those feed sacks from my mothers' stash >for back ground and borders. She had over a dozen left that she had used >for table scarves, etc., right on up to 1997. > >And I remember the pinafores from very early in my life. > >Lynn >-----Original Message----- >From: Mbdiggin@aol.com <Mbdiggin@aol.com> >To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com ><KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> >Date: Friday, September 17, 1999 10:19 PM >Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] sunbonnets > > >>I remember the sunbonnets. Grandma was a great seamstress and sold for >>people other than family. She would make her own out of feed sack >material. >>Does anyone remember the chicken feed that came in pretty flowered feed >>sacks. I have worn many a dress made by my mother or grandma made from >them >>and they were very pretty. Most of the time she made me pinafores. Does >>anyone remember those? >>Mary >> > >

    09/18/1999 04:18:04
    1. [KYL&F] CHERUBS/ WEB PAGES/ AND SUNBONNETS
    2. Ramona
    3. What a wonderful day yesterday was: Pat thank you explaining why the Cherubs are on the ceiling of the lobby of DuPont Lodge Cumberland Falls State Park-how sad and lovely. Richard thank you for the use of the web site. RootsWeb is working on getting a chat room on their web sites--and that would be great! We now have Nancy from Michigan who belongs to a club in Michigan with others whose family roots are in Kentucky; their club has great goals and gives much to Kentucky. Nancy I hope you share with the Legenders what your club is doing. I think it would be nice if other clubs like yours were started across our country! I also remember the old sunbonnets our grandmothers and great-grandmothers wore---and the tiny sunbonnets made for the wee ones. And I remember the full apron that covered grandmothers' dresses all the way down; and my grandmothers "Sunday Apron" more dressy and tied at the waist; covering only half their dresses. I loved the girls dresses and skirts made from the material that our flour came in---Gramma made me a couple of flour sack dresses--I have two pictures of me, my cousin Marie, and my younger sister; Ruby--proudly wearing our flour sack dresses. Gramma also made cute little clothes-pen holders that looked like little aprons to carry the clothes-pens in. Does any else remember these? Will write more later, Ramona

    09/18/1999 04:12:45
    1. [KYL&F] Could we?
    2. RichPump
    3. Romona: Could we set the list returns to go to list not individuals. Richard... Mailto:RichPump@wf.net ICQ # 898319 HOWLAND-L List Co-ordinator ILTAZEWE-L List Co-ordinator VARNER-L List Co-ordinator TXYOUNG-L List Co-ordinator ILPIATT-L List Co-ordinator WOODWORKING-L list Co-ordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilpiatt/piatt.htm http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richpump/YoungCountyCemPage.htm http://www.wf.net/~richpump/HowlandOnLine.html http://www.pets.rootsweb.com/~hedgehogs/index.html

    09/18/1999 04:09:11
    1. Re: [KYL&F] Farm LIfe
    2. RichPump
    3. Pat: I hear that parakeet is pretty good bar-b-q-ed? <G> As for horses, only thing horses are good at is running under #9 clothline and using it as slingshot to sending you flying. Will use tree branch in a pinch. I lived in England for several years. Girlfriend talked me in to going riding (horses) one day. Being a non horseman we had to have a instructor. My horse having been woke up early and having a saddle strapped to his back. Cinched down with the old knee in the gut trick. Upon my settling my 240 lb. on his back, decided he needed to relieve himself. The instructor started yelling to make him quit. Hey you got to go, you got to go. I'm still not sure how or why you should make a horse control their bodily functions. Heck I couldn't even keep them out form under the clotheslines. Besides I'm into hogs these days. Hedgehogs that is. Let the good times roll. Richard... Pat Oneal wrote: > > Richard, > Your childhood is totally different to mine. I'm fascinated with the > various stories from others. Sometimes people think 'living in a small > southern town' is the same as living in the country, or is country! It > isn't! I was raised in a small town, with lots of farms on the outskirts of > town, but I knew nothing about farm life. I often visited the farmers with > my parents, and loved going through the barns and playing with the new > little piglets, but as far as knowing anything about riding horses or > milking cows, I knew none of those things. The closest I came to feeding > chickens were those we got at Easter, you know--the little colored chicks. > Of course, we were going to raise them, then eat them. That's like saying > you're going to eat your pet parakeet!!!! Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: RichPump <RichPump@wf.net> > To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com > <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 9:50 AM > Subject: Re: [KYL&F] GOOD MORNING EVERYONE! > > >Romona: Like that Prepend was going to suggest shorting yesterday. You > >must be mind reader? I was just thinking about early jobs that I had as > >youngster. We lived in Va. at that stage of life. Winter trapped muskrat > >and mink, summers hunted groundhogs for horse farms around. Some of the > >best hot tea I ever had came while working early morning milking cows. > >Nothing better than tea with fresh milk. Richard... > > > > > > > >Ramona wrote: > >> > >> Well it was sure good to see everyone sharing and helping on Legends > >> yesterday. > >> I have to read the messages to find out what we are doing and discussing. > >> Anyone who has an idea to get things going this morning---please go right > >> ahead. > >> I have to print off our messages---then read them. > >> I still can not sit for very long---bear with me please. > >> Ramona > >> LOL > > > >-- > > Mailto:RichPump@wf.net ICQ # 898319 > > > > HOWLAND-L List Co-ordinator ILTAZEWE-L List Co-ordinator > > VARNER-L List Co-ordinator TXYOUNG-L List Co-ordinator > > ILPIATT-L List Co-ordinator WOODWORKING-L list Co-ordinator > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilpiatt/piatt.htm > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richpump/YoungCountyCemPage.htm > > http://www.wf.net/~richpump/HowlandOnLine.html > > > > -- Mailto:RichPump@wf.net ICQ # 898319 HOWLAND-L List Co-ordinator ILTAZEWE-L List Co-ordinator VARNER-L List Co-ordinator TXYOUNG-L List Co-ordinator ILPIATT-L List Co-ordinator WOODWORKING-L list Co-ordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilpiatt/piatt.htm http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richpump/YoungCountyCemPage.htm http://www.wf.net/~richpump/HowlandOnLine.html

    09/18/1999 04:00:28
    1. [KYL&F] newspaper
    2. Leona Crist
    3. Ok, maybe I will be throwing this out there and nobody elses's home did that, but I'll give it a try anyhow. My grandparents were so poor that on all of their walls in their house, instead of wallpaper, paint, they hung newspaper or magazines on the wall. I revisited this home after about 20 years (long after they had passed away) and the funny thing was that they same paper was on the walls. They house was just about to fall in, but for memories sake I picked some off the walls and have it put away. That probably sounds pretty weird to everyone, but its a neat memory. Leona

    09/18/1999 04:00:20
    1. [KYL&F] Reporting In
    2. Grandma Fern
    3. Dear Romona I can feel for you as there has been times when my back doesn't want to cooperate with the rest of me. At times it can be very dehib xxxx -de hiber-- very bad (Never could spell that word let alone to say it.. Please remember the many people are praying for you. I have been reading the different ideas for a web page and I am overjoyed at the prospects. I am not very original, therefore have no good ideas to submit, but I am very anxious to see what comes out of this.With the kind of things mentioned I feel it will be a GREAT page. Grandma Fern

    09/18/1999 03:21:17
    1. Re: [KYL&F] GOOD MORNING EVERYONE!
    2. RichPump
    3. Romona: Like that Prepend was going to suggest shorting yesterday. You must be mind reader? I was just thinking about early jobs that I had as youngster. We lived in Va. at that stage of life. Winter trapped muskrat and mink, summers hunted groundhogs for horse farms around. Some of the best hot tea I ever had came while working early morning milking cows. Nothing better than tea with fresh milk. Richard... Ramona wrote: > > Well it was sure good to see everyone sharing and helping on Legends > yesterday. > I have to read the messages to find out what we are doing and discussing. > Anyone who has an idea to get things going this morning---please go right > ahead. > I have to print off our messages---then read them. > I still can not sit for very long---bear with me please. > Ramona > LOL -- Mailto:RichPump@wf.net ICQ # 898319 HOWLAND-L List Co-ordinator ILTAZEWE-L List Co-ordinator VARNER-L List Co-ordinator TXYOUNG-L List Co-ordinator ILPIATT-L List Co-ordinator WOODWORKING-L list Co-ordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilpiatt/piatt.htm http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richpump/YoungCountyCemPage.htm http://www.wf.net/~richpump/HowlandOnLine.html

    09/18/1999 02:48:56
    1. [KYL&F] GOOD MORNING EVERYONE!
    2. Ramona
    3. Well it was sure good to see everyone sharing and helping on Legends yesterday. I have to read the messages to find out what we are doing and discussing. Anyone who has an idea to get things going this morning---please go right ahead. I have to print off our messages---then read them. I still can not sit for very long---bear with me please. Ramona LOL

    09/18/1999 01:11:57
    1. [KYL&F] Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] sunbonnets
    2. Lynn McKay
    3. Yes, yes, yes! I never had a "store-boughten" dress until I was in high school. All my "sunday-go-to-meetin" clothes were made from the feed sacks. Just last year for Christmas, I made quilted maps of the states my family members live in and used a pile of those feed sacks from my mothers' stash for back ground and borders. She had over a dozen left that she had used for table scarves, etc., right on up to 1997. And I remember the pinafores from very early in my life. Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Mbdiggin@aol.com <Mbdiggin@aol.com> To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, September 17, 1999 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] sunbonnets >I remember the sunbonnets. Grandma was a great seamstress and sold for >people other than family. She would make her own out of feed sack material. >Does anyone remember the chicken feed that came in pretty flowered feed >sacks. I have worn many a dress made by my mother or grandma made from them >and they were very pretty. Most of the time she made me pinafores. Does >anyone remember those? >Mary >

    09/18/1999 12:36:32