I probably need to stay off my pedestal about the disrespect that is shown by teen agers as a whole . However I know some that would eat their supper standing up if they dared to sass their parents. I have to speak to a bunch of them tomorrow morning and I hope and pray something will be said that help them to know there is something in life more that loud noises (notice I did not say music), Doing it (whatever) because it feels good and seeing how far they go without getting caught. And I fully agree with you Romona, that parents (as least some them) can't wait until the kids are gone so that they can do their thing (Whatever that happens to be) Someone said for one to Stand up to be seen, Speak to be heard and Shut Up to be appreciated - I want to be appreciated - So I will shut up - Good night everyone Grandma Fern

Not to english standards. I never learned to enjoy it. While in the Air Force I made several two week trips on horseback only in my case I was lucky and was able to get a mule. For comfort take the mule. Richard... Ramona wrote: > > Thank you Pat for sharing the story of your sister "gettin' her's" as we > always called it. > Richard have you ever learned to ride a horse after that mortifying > experience? > If you did--you're a better man than I! > I've rode horses since I was little being in the country a lot---I cannot > imagine climbing on a horse in England! > Too Polite and Correct! > My Great Grandmother Dora Hamilton Kidder taught us to curtsy as > young ladies--can you believe that! > We loved our Great Grandmother--but were afraid to move in her home; > unless called upon to sing or recite a poem. > Her daughters were not allowed to ride horses--they rode in a buggy like > "Ladies should." > And my Grandmother Hazel Marie Kidder Bayes told me Great Grandmother Dora > would plait their hair so tightly she and her sisters > could not "blink until noon." > Sincerely, > Ramona -- Mailto:RichPump@wf.net ICQ # 898319 HOWLAND-L List Co-ordinator WOODWORKING-L list Co-ordinator VARNER-L List Co-ordinator FISHING-L list Co-ordinator ILPIATT-L List Co-ordinator HEDGEHOGS-L List Co-ordinator TXYOUNG-L List Co-ordinator http://www.pets.rootsweb.com/~hedgehogs/index.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilpiatt/piatt.htm http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richpump/YoungCountyCemPage.htm http://www.wf.net/~richpump/HowlandOnLine.html

Do you remember this Jan and all. Peyton Place the book---Banned in Boston! God's Little Acre the movie---Banned in Boston! I remember these two very well; I'm sure there must have been more books and movies and no doubt music artists--Banned in Boston! Sincerely, Ramona

Does anyone remember the Dime Savers you got at school and whenever you could afford it you put a dime in it until it was full, then turned it in for a Savings Bond? Mary

Hi Ramona, I am here and I mentioned the Poodle Skirts this morning before I went to work. I just got home. I do remember when we wore our sweaters backwards. How about fountain pens that had the lever you pushed to fill the pen with ink? I had a Shaeffer and a Parker and thought I was rich. Remember the James Stewart movies with June Allyson? My favorite was the one they played The Little Brown Jug in. What was the name of that movie? I loved all those movies he played in that represented the Big Band Era. Some of my favorite songs were: When the moon hits your eye like a big Pizza Pie 'That's Amore' and Behind the Green Door. Which reminds me of when my Grandpa and I used to "watch" the radio and you could just see what was happening. We listened to 'THE FAT MAN' where as an introduction to the show the announcer would say," He's stepping on the scale, weight 350 pounds, The Fat Man," We also listened to The Squeaking Door, Amos & Andy, and a few more that don't come to me right now. Enough for this time. Just wanted you all to know I was here. Mary

Can anyone tell me what this is? I remember hearing about Backwards Suppers as a child in Kentucky; but no one would tell me anything about them. I seems they had something to do with settling past transgressions with those gone---or seeing who you were going to marry. Has anyone heard of this folktale? Thank you, Ramona

Here's one from my Grandfather Dewey Smith. Gramma Ruth Fraley Smith first seen my Grandfather when he was 12 and she was 18 years of age. Gramma told Grandpa at that time; "I'll be back to get you when you turn of age." True to Gramma's word she was--they were married when Gramma was 24 and Grandpa was 18 years of age. I asked Grandpa how he could have been so taken with Gramma at the tender age of 12 years. His reply, "I had never seen a women setta a horse like that!" It took me years to figure out Gramma did not ride side-saddle. Ramona

Hello Friends We just got our power back on-it has been out since 2:00 p.m. Thursday. 3 days with no phone, no lights, no motor cars, not a single luxury... Sorry about that, I have to laugh or I will cry. We have a big clean-up ahead, downed trees and limbs, water and red clay mud in the cellar. Lots of water and mud. When I look at TV and see what others had to deal with, the 38 people that lost their lives, I feel very fortunate. I may be out of touch for a few days, thanks again for your concern Kim -----Original Message----- From: Ramona [SMTP:kywy@zoomnet.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 10:12 PM To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com Subject: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] FLOYD KIM SANDY BARBARA NANCY: Our Positive Thoughts and Our Prayers are With You. I am sure the others here on Legends have been watching the Weather Channel and thinking of you all. Please keep us posted as long as possible. I know in some areas they were getting ready to cut off the electrical power. You all are much braver than I would ever be. Sincerely, Ramona LOL

tHANK YOU everyone for your thoughts and prayers. It means alot and we feel like my Aunt is hopefully going to be alright. Your wishes are very appreciated. Joann

Do you remember when girls wearing pants or shorts to school was strictly forbidden. In the winter we had to wear a dress over our pants to keep warm. The Beatles were the devil himself and teenagers going to R rated movies was awful and no one even thought about taking drugs or smoking pot. We actually believed it was bad for us and wanted nothing to do with it. Remember when teens had morals and respected their parents. Joann

When I was a kid, there were no ratings. My Mom checked Parent's Magazine for their ratings. I couldn't go to any ELVIS movies! And bums on the streets of New York City were the only ones who used drugs. (we snuck around and smoked my friend's mom's Lucky Strikes a time or two) WHY can I remember ALL the words to those old songs but can't remember where I put my glases??? And THAT was a couple of MINUTES ago! Not fair. Jan At 07:22 PM 9/18/1999 -0400, Joann Holland wrote: >Do you remember when girls wearing pants or shorts >to school was strictly forbidden. In the winter we had >to wear a dress over our pants to keep warm. The >Beatles were the devil himself and teenagers going to >R rated movies was awful and no one even thought >about taking drugs or smoking pot. We actually believed >it was bad for us and wanted nothing to do with it. >Remember when teens had morals and respected their >parents. > Joann > > >

Jo Anne - In regard to the statement that teen agers actually respected their parents, a thought comes to mind from the life of Samuel L. Clemens, who was credited as saying "When I was 14 years old, I could not believe my Dad could be so dumb. By the time I got to be 21, I was absolutely amazed at how much my Old Man had learned in the last 7 years. - I appears to be a phase that they go through, but in my "hey day" to honor my parents was a "must"- I admit times have changed and in some ways, I am not sure it is for the better. Grandma Fern

While thinking of "The Flying Purple People Eater" and doing the "Monster Mash" I starting remembering these old tales. HOOK MAN! THE MURDERER CALLING FROM UPSTAIRS TO THE BABY-SITTER DOWNSTAIRS! THE LSD CRAZED BABY SITTER WHO COOKED THE BABY! THE GIRL WHO LOVED HER BEE-HIVE HAIR-DO SO WELL SHE DID NOT WASH HER HAIR FOR SIX MONTHS--THE COCK ROACHES ATE HER HEAD OR BRAIN!---whatever they ate it was AWFUL!!! Does anyone else remember these old legends from the 50s and 60s? We use to go looking for Hook Man in the 60s just to scare ourselves silly! Ramona

Hi Gramma Fern, I am so glad you are enjoying Kentucky Legends. Like you I am getting very excited over our web page--and we will start as soon as I can sit longer than 15 minutes at a time. I want to Thank everyone for their suggested remedies; I am trying them all--and I am sure they will all help to some degree. But I also must listen to my DR. who is an Osteopathic Physician--and not sit for long periods of time--so inflammation of the nerves in my spine can settle down. Don't you think we should have one page for recipes---one for remedies-- one for our memories--and one page for our Kentucky Surnames. How does this sound to you? Sincerely, Ramona

Ramona - Those ideas sound great to me. Recipes are especially interesting and I have the desire to try them all. My mother was like that too.Our waistlines are evidence of that. I have enjoyed the memories that have been shared. As a little girl, even here in Southern Iowa, I remember the feed sack dresses that my mother used to make for me and I was so proud. I also had a little pony that dumped my periodically. Well I had better quit enjoying life (reading all the e-mail) and get ready for out-of-state company.Also need to study a bit more for tomorrow as I have the honor of being the speaker for the Home Coming Joint Church Service at the town where a couple of my grandchildren attend Don't want to embarrass them too much. - Grandma Fern -----Original Message----- From: Ramona <kywy@zoomnet.net> To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 5:18 PM Subject: [KYL&F] HI GRAMMA FERN! >Hi Gramma Fern, >I am so glad you are enjoying Kentucky Legends. >Like you I am getting very excited over our web page--and we will >start as soon as I can sit longer than 15 minutes at a time. >I want to Thank everyone for their suggested remedies; I am trying them >all--and I am sure they will all help to some degree. >But I also must listen to my DR. who is an Osteopathic Physician--and >not sit for long periods of time--so inflammation of the nerves in my >spine can settle down. >Don't you think we should have one page for recipes---one for remedies-- >one for our memories--and one page for our Kentucky Surnames. >How does this sound to you? >Sincerely, >Ramona > >

Well I'm singin' every old fifties song I can think of! I loved the old rag rugs and would help my Grammies go through the old clothes to pick out the best material for them. In the quilt squares my Grandmas and Great-Grandmas wrote in thread the names and dates of the clothes the pieces of fabric came from. These old quilts are really family treasures! Someone is reading the Bell Witch---it is one scary story! I believe it! I had a pink vinyl signable rain-coat in 5th grade--about 1956. And it seemed everyone carried their little autograph books where you would write things like "for dirty people only on a dog-eared piece of the book--flip up the piece of page--and there is was for all us dirty people SOAP! AH----THE FIFTIES!!!!!! I'm so Glad they were not ONLY MAKE BELIEVE! Ramona

THE GREEN DOOR HERNANDO'S HIDEAWAY-I guess those are early '50's. Marty Robbins was on the Juke Box with A WHITE SPORT COAT. I still have 45's from the '50's. I also have a small stash of feed sacks. I just washed them up, after being stored for a couple of years. I don't know if I can bear to cut them up. I got them when my mom died in '94. I have my 8th grade graduation dress, my Senior Prom dress. A lot of dresses my mom made for me for the 1st year of college. I turned out just like my mother in spite of all the protestations to the contrary! I was born on a farm in MO. MY great aunt midwifed. Her hands were the first to touch me. I think that is special. I love all history but I am thankful that I am living in the present time. All the new toys to play with, like computers. What changed me the most in my life-surviving CANCER-now every day is a bonus day and I try really hard to enjoy something in each one of them. I think I'm caught up with everything! Judy AZ -----Original Message----- From: Ramona <kywy@zoomnet.net> To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 3:17 PM Subject: [KYL&F] WHILE THINKING OF------- >While thinking of "The Flying Purple People Eater" and doing the >"Monster Mash" I starting remembering these old tales. >HOOK MAN! >THE MURDERER CALLING FROM UPSTAIRS TO THE BABY-SITTER DOWNSTAIRS! >THE LSD CRAZED BABY SITTER WHO COOKED THE BABY! >THE GIRL WHO LOVED HER BEE-HIVE HAIR-DO SO WELL >SHE DID NOT WASH HER HAIR FOR SIX MONTHS--THE COCK >ROACHES ATE HER HEAD OR BRAIN!---whatever they ate it was >AWFUL!!! >Does anyone else remember these old legends from the 50s and 60s? >We use to go looking for Hook Man in the 60s just to scare ourselves >silly! >Ramona > > > >

I haven't thought of coffee milk in forever! Grandpa always said a baby didn't start growin' good til it had its first sip of coffee milk! Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Craven <jcraven@usunwired.net> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [KYL&F] newspaper > Not at all wierd. Newspaper is a good insulator and it probably made the > house warmer. They may have been poor, but they were pretty smart and > very resourceful! > My Gramma used to cover up with the paper sometimes in the > fall or spring to take her afternoon nap. > Did all ya'lls old folks take naps in the afternoon too? > We had to be SOOOO quiet while they slept. Then when they woke up, everyone > would have coffee. Kids had coffee milk..Still have my coffee that way!! > > BTW, I DO have at least one ancestress who came from KY. Her name was > Dicy. She was either an Anderson or a Webster...not sure, but in the > 1836 (first Texas) Census she was 44 years old. Then in the 1850 fed > census she was 45. I like to think that I inherited her anti aging genes! > She was married to Peter Whetstone who founded the town of Marshall TX. > If there are any Anderson's out there, let me know. They were closely > associated (living next to) Bailey Anderson in that first TX Census > and named a child Anderson, so I really feel like she was an Anderson. > Jan > > At 10:00 AM 9/18/1999 -0500, Leona Crist wrote: > >Ok, maybe I will be throwing this out there and nobody elses's home did > that, but I'll give it a try anyhow. My grandparents were so poor that on > all of their walls in their house, instead of wallpaper, paint, they hung > newspaper or magazines on the wall.. I revisited this home after about 20 > years (long after they had passed away) and the funny thing was that they > same paper was on the walls. They house was just about to fall in, but for > memories sake I picked some off the walls and have it put away. That > probably sounds pretty weird to everyone, but its a neat memory. Leona > > > > > > > >

Many a tear has to fall......But it's all.... In thu Game..... Remember dancing cheek to cheek with guys who were just as hot and sweaty as I was. Was it as hot up there as here. By the time I hit jr high, we had moved off the farm and into town and starting in the 6th grade, we had a party at somebody's house just about every weekend...a DANCE party! If we had to live with no AC today, we'd think we were dieing. Remember taking trips in cars with NO ac? AUGH! Jan, who doesn't have time for this list, but is loving it. At 12:43 PM 9/18/1999 -0400, Ramona wrote: >I remember the Poodle skirts and those big petticoats we wore under them. >For some reason---the more petticoats--I think the petticoats had a wire >sewed into the hem for maximum puffing (is this a word?) of one's skirt >or dress. >The farther out one's dress or skirt went the more esteemed one was. >It was like having the best spit curls--or the most fake fur collars to put >on one's sweaters. >Remember when it was the Fad to wear your cardigan backwards? >Where is the 50 tunes---Remember--At the Hop? >And some great love songs---In the Still of the Night---For Your Precious >Love---One Night With You! Oh WOW! >Ramona > > > > > > > >

Hello everyone This goes back to the 50's or maybe late 40's. But does anyone remember the white, kacki raincoats we use to wear, and how we had everyone sign their names on our coats. We never wore them in the rain, just a coat to have everyone sign their names on. Maybe this was a city thing then. and how about those adhesive tapes with pennies stuck to them. Now these are memories for our grandchildren to hear about.