Gee, Thanks, Pat!!! I'll look for that movie! I love the old movies! Wonderful story about the falls! I'll be sure & look for those photos in the lobby! I remember going to the Falls on picnics when I was a small girl, but that would have been late 50's -early 60's. A lot of Prom night teens from Jellico High School still go to the falls after prom. I remember swimming in the river above the falls. Kinda scary now to think about it! What if we had got caught in a current? Wow! They have changed it a lot now. They have a steel rope now to keep you safely back from the falls. I remember when I was small; there wasn't anything, & it always scared me. A lot of drownings there. Just hope all the fall colors are at their peak when we go. I see you have some wonderful memories concerning the falls! That is great! BTW, didn't you mention Oak Ridge in one of your posts? That's the next county over from me. Do you have family there now, or do you live in that area? Bobbie

A Press is a piece of furniture. I remember the first time I knew of the name. I was living in Lex, KY, in 1960s. Two elderly ladies were having an estate sale, far out of my reach. That's when I saw the piece of furniture and heard it called a press. They are usually large pieces and may resemble a wardrobe closet. The wardrobe closet, some of them, had a bonnet box on one upper side with drawers, then hanging space for clothes on hangers. They were used before homes had closets in them. In Europe, people were taxed for the number of doors they had in a home, so they began building armoires instead of closets to avoid being taxed for the doors. Sounds kinda crazy, doesn't it? Pat -----Original Message----- From: barbara <barm@bellsouth.net> To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] >Pat, Thank goodness. I have always called the closet a press and >people thought I was nuts. > > >

I still can taste my grandmothers hot biscuits, cooked in a iron wood burning stove, and covered with homemade blackberry jam' UMMMMMMMMMM good. And they taste good cold, if there were any left.

When exactly will you all be at Cumberland Falls? I going to Fla, SC, VA and then to MO during two weeks next month. If your visit coincides, I could come back through KY instead of TN, and say howdy. Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Bobbie Lewallen <blallen@ccdi.net> To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] Re: Cumberland Falls >Good Afternoon Everyone!!! >And, welcome, Becky!!!!! I should have wrote a welcome earlier, but I was up >late last night & slept late this morning! <G> Ramona, I met Becky through >another list, and she is a real Sweetie!!!! Better get some "haint" stories >ready, because she loves them!!! I will be meeting her for the first time >when we all get together next month at Cumberland Falls!! I can hardly wait! >We are gonna do a lot of searching for our KY roots and do a lot of >talking!Welcome to Grandma Fern! Loved reading your bio! Like you, I love >reading all of them. I would like to say welcome to all the other new ones >also. Joann had a great idea for everyone to post their bios. That way we >could learn a little about each other. So you new ones, post yours! >Bobbie >

Becky, When you said you were coming back to the area that produced the finest biscuit maker, my first thought was, "She knew my mother!" In those days, if you came from a large family, and had a large family, making biscuits was like playing a game. It came so natural for them, they could do it with their eyes closed. I always said my mother had baked enough biscuits to feed all the starving people in China. Pat -----Original Message----- From: Bokaygal@aol.com <Bokaygal@aol.com> To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] bio >Well Folks, > >I'm going to be a little piggie and post AGAIN today - LOL. After reading >several bios, guess I'll throw my hat into the ring too. > >I'm Becky Hamblin Perry and was born with that name in 1952 in Dayton Ohio. >(Actually I picked up the Perry part a few years later - lol). My parents >were both born in Ohio but all my grandparents were from KY in the Whitley, >Bell, Laurel, Scott and other counties in that area. I'm making my first >trip there in the next few weeks....can hardly wait to get to the area that >produced one of the finest biscuit makers in all KY! > >My granny Hamblin is best remembered for the wonderful biscuits and gravy she >made each day....was not an educated woman in the worldly sense but was >educated in more lasting things, such as knowing how to love people. >She is my greatest mentor! > >As for me, I'm married 30 yrs come next April (whew!). My husband and I >have 3 grown sons, ages 28, 24 and 22 (ANOTHER whew!), of which 2 are >married. The oldest son has given us our first 3 awesome grandchildren, the >middle son has given us two grand-doggies and the third son is still waiting >to launch and is at home with us currently. > >I own a small floral business which I run from my home and specialize in >doing wedding flowers and set up -- decorating reception areas etc -- as well >as doing home decor for people when weddings are slow. Its just enough to >keep me busy and still allow time for my passion - genealogy! > >My outlook on life is positive (most of the time!). I figure there's nothing >in life that God and me can't work out together. Most of the time, it ends >being Him doing the work though! LOL! > >Again, I'm thrilled to meet you all and look forward to those ghostie >stories, Sandy!! > >Becky in AZ > >Researching >HAMBLIN , GATLIFF, MARTIN, (Whitley, McCreary Counties) >JOHNSON, BROCK, SHEPHERD (Clay, Harlan Bell, Garrard Counites) >PARKER, HUBBARD, CORNEILUS, FORBES (Laurel, Bourbon Counties) >HOUSTON, TRUITT ( Scott County) >and others > >

Pat, Thank goodness. I have always called the closet a press and people thought I was nuts.

A Press is what you store you clothes and linens in. Kinda like an armoire. Pat -----Original Message----- From: barbara <barm@bellsouth.net> To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] >How many of you know what a press is???????? > > >Or what a tote is???????? > >

If you recall, there was later "Daniel Boone Fried Chicken" which soon fell through and lots of people lost their investments, including a co-worker of mine. The creator of DBFC was the Colonel's son-in-law. I believe there was a big controversy over him stealing the Colonel's secret recipe. When I was in high school, a jeweler downtown, kinda new in the community, also had his secret herbs and spices that he was trying to get patented, or whatever you do with recipes. I remember stopping in his store after school. He was very friendly with us high school kids. He told me about his secret recipe. Guess it fell through. Never heard anymore about it. And, NO! I don't have the recipe. Pat -----Original Message----- From: barbara <barm@bellsouth.net> To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] My Kentucky >Pat, I did see the Colonel's auto on AE and it was very very interesting. > >Do you happen to know the secret recipe (grin) > >Now, I have to tell a story--- the truth really. > >We went to my husbands Aunt's house who lived in Arkansas and for dinner, >she had the most delicious fried chicken. I told her it tasted so much >like Ky fried chicken, and would she please give me the recipe of how she >cooked it. > >She just smiled and said , sure, no trouble at all. > >Well, when we were washing dishes, i looked over in the corner in the >garbage can, and sat an empty bucket FROM KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN > >Her secret was Out. I really did tease her for years over this. But I >guess the joke was really on me, as I thought I was getting a recipe just >like the Colonel had. > > >

I was in Milwaukee, WI, back in 1981. A well-known numerologist who was a family friend visiting my new d-i-l's mother decided to do the test for me. She informed me that I would come into some money. Ho!Hum!-------I'm still waiting!!<G> Pat -----Original Message----- From: Bobbie Lewallen <blallen@ccdi.net> To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] FUN Time >Liv, >That was NEAT!!!!!! Since Ramona is our leader, hers fit, didn't it? <G> >Bobbie > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Olivia Haughn <Evvia@webtv.net> >> would do a quickie on the dates Ramona is i # 9 super power.Lovely lady >> usually in leadership jobs..... > >

Bobbie, Just wish you could see Cumberland Falls the way it was in the 40s and 50s. Beautiful beach down below the falls where everybody went on weekends. Graduating classes spent the night on the beach roasting marshmallos and doing other things like XXOOO. Above the falls was the ferry that took you across the river to Hwy 27. It scared me to death when my dad drove the car onto the ferry. I just knew it would break and send us rambling over the falls. While you are there, go in the room off from the large lobby area with the fireplaces. You'll see photos of the old bridge, and then the new bridge. Also, after my dad built the lodge, it later burned and had to be rebuilt. BTW, If you'll notice in the WalMart stores where they have the video tapes, there's a movie entitled "The Kentuckian" with Burt Lancaster and Diana Lynn. Parts of the movie were filmed above the falls. I was kinda disappointed because they cut part of the scene where he walks across the river above the falls---very beautiful. That's at the very beginning so you need to look close. Also, you will see them at a gristmill which is the one at Levi Jackson State Park in London, KY. Later in the movie, they jump from a riverboat near Ashland, KY, into the water. My high school friend was the stand-in for that scene. He was short, so they used him instead of the little boy in the movie. I graduated that year and several of us girls were at the falls, hoping to get a glimpse of Burt, but, he was well hidden. Even now, I recall that just the excitement of "maybe" seeing a movie star was all we girls needed. I bought the video tape, just for old times sake. Maybe someday my grandchildren will appreciate that their grandmother has a story to tell in association with the making of the movie, "The Kentuckian." It only cost $10-12. Worth it! Pat -----Original Message----- From: Bobbie Lewallen <blallen@ccdi.net> To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] Re: Cumberland Falls >Good Afternoon Everyone!!! >And, welcome, Becky!!!!! I should have wrote a welcome earlier, but I was up >late last night & slept late this morning! <G> Ramona, I met Becky through >another list, and she is a real Sweetie!!!! Better get some "haint" stories >ready, because she loves them!!! I will be meeting her for the first time >when we all get together next month at Cumberland Falls!! I can hardly wait! >We are gonna do a lot of searching for our KY roots and do a lot of >talking!Welcome to Grandma Fern! Loved reading your bio! Like you, I love >reading all of them. I would like to say welcome to all the other new ones >also. Joann had a great idea for everyone to post their bios. That way we >could learn a little about each other. So you new ones, post yours! >Bobbie > >

Well Folks, I'm going to be a little piggie and post AGAIN today - LOL. After reading several bios, guess I'll throw my hat into the ring too. I'm Becky Hamblin Perry and was born with that name in 1952 in Dayton Ohio. (Actually I picked up the Perry part a few years later - lol). My parents were both born in Ohio but all my grandparents were from KY in the Whitley, Bell, Laurel, Scott and other counties in that area. I'm making my first trip there in the next few weeks....can hardly wait to get to the area that produced one of the finest biscuit makers in all KY! My granny Hamblin is best remembered for the wonderful biscuits and gravy she made each day....was not an educated woman in the worldly sense but was educated in more lasting things, such as knowing how to love people. She is my greatest mentor! As for me, I'm married 30 yrs come next April (whew!). My husband and I have 3 grown sons, ages 28, 24 and 22 (ANOTHER whew!), of which 2 are married. The oldest son has given us our first 3 awesome grandchildren, the middle son has given us two grand-doggies and the third son is still waiting to launch and is at home with us currently. I own a small floral business which I run from my home and specialize in doing wedding flowers and set up -- decorating reception areas etc -- as well as doing home decor for people when weddings are slow. Its just enough to keep me busy and still allow time for my passion - genealogy! My outlook on life is positive (most of the time!). I figure there's nothing in life that God and me can't work out together. Most of the time, it ends being Him doing the work though! LOL! Again, I'm thrilled to meet you all and look forward to those ghostie stories, Sandy!! Becky in AZ Researching HAMBLIN , GATLIFF, MARTIN, (Whitley, McCreary Counties) JOHNSON, BROCK, SHEPHERD (Clay, Harlan Bell, Garrard Counites) PARKER, HUBBARD, CORNEILUS, FORBES (Laurel, Bourbon Counties) HOUSTON, TRUITT ( Scott County) and others

How many of you know what a press is???????? Or what a tote is????????

Another tale from the hills of Kentucky My grandmother and grandpa lived out in the country past a small town named English. I think I have told you before about English Ky. Anyhow, the railroad ran right in front of her house. The farm land was on the other side. I remember my grandma telling me about this lady who roamed the railroad track each night at dusk, looking for her lover, who worked on the railroad. Rumor was that he had been hit by a train while walking the rails. So, each night, we would sit out on the stoop, looking to see if we could see her ghost. Of course, we never did, but we always had a fun time sharing the time we sat out there on the stoop. An old lady and a young child ------- each looking for a ghost of the past. My grandmother made this terrible tea for me to drink, when I had the sniffles or was sick. It was a horrible taste. And always she put it in a metal cup. It was not safafrass (spell???) but some other tea made from a bark of some time. She had feather beds, and always said we were protected by lightning when we were on the bed. hope I am not boring you all, but when I get to talking, I just keep on ticking. ya all come back now, ya hear, that is, if the creek dont rise and the bridge dont fall.

You mean an apple press or clothes press? A tote is what you carry things in. Lynn -----Original Message----- From: barbara <barm@bellsouth.net> To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] >How many of you know what a press is???????? > > >Or what a tote is???????? >

Pat, I did see the Colonel's auto on AE and it was very very interesting. Do you happen to know the secret recipe (grin) Now, I have to tell a story--- the truth really. We went to my husbands Aunt's house who lived in Arkansas and for dinner, she had the most delicious fried chicken. I told her it tasted so much like Ky fried chicken, and would she please give me the recipe of how she cooked it. She just smiled and said , sure, no trouble at all. Well, when we were washing dishes, i looked over in the corner in the garbage can, and sat an empty bucket FROM KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN Her secret was Out. I really did tease her for years over this. But I guess the joke was really on me, as I thought I was getting a recipe just like the Colonel had.

Since you mentioned it---my dad built the first lodge at Cumberland Falls State Park during the CCC program in the 30s. He also built Dry Land Bridge leading into the park. The first 8 cabins were also constructed then and my mother made the draperies for each cabin. 16 windows. She received $7.00 for making the curtains. I have a wonderful story about the first wedding reception held at the lodge, before DuPont Lodge was even completed. Pat -----Original Message----- From: Solstice <SolsticeCHPT@hosts.talkcity.com> To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 9:38 AM Subject: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] SPEAKING OF CORBIN KENTUCKY >Has anyone visited and stayed at Cumberland Falls State Park? >It is one of the most beautiful State Parks I have ever seen. >The Gift Shop has authentic Kentucky Crafts! >As does Carter Caves State Park; I think tourists come to buy the crafts >at these two Kentucky State Parks---and miss the beauty of our State. >Ramona > > > >

Hi, Just happened to recall something about the past. Back in Grant County , Ky (of course) in the late 18oo's, the men folk would sit around after supper and tell ghost stories. The town was called Elliston, and it sat on the side of hill by the railroad tracks. There were only about 14 or 15 houses My great grandmother and greatgrandfather lived there, At night the men would sit around the fire and tell Ghost stories. They told a tale about an old sailor who had a peg leg and he retired he rented the room upstairs over the living room. This old sailor had been raised in Elliston and had come home. All his people were gone or dead. For years after he died, you could hear him waling across the floor upstairs,, the foot step, then the peg leg. Elliston is still there, but the old house has since been torn down. Do you think the ghost of this old sailor still roams ???????????????

I was born and raised in Corbin, KY. I remember seeing Col. Sanders walk down mainstreet in his white suit and goatee. My first high school class reunion was held at Sanders Restaurant. After I married and moved to Louisville, KY, I was in a SS class with his grandson and wife. The gr'son worked at the KFC headquarters there in Louisville. If you visit the original KFC in Corbin now, you will see lots of memorabilia from the original restaurant, including a room set up like the one from Sanders Motel. If you ever get to see the Colonel's biography on A&E, you'll find it quite interesting. Pat -----Original Message----- From: Lynn McKay <granny2Lynne@LORETTOTEL.NET> To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] My Kentucky >I used to live in Corbin, KY, the home of the first Colonel Sanders KFC; he >WAS quite a character! > >Lynn >-----Original Message----- >From: Elizabeth A Kaspar <E-Kaspar@wiu.edu> >To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com ><KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> >Date: Friday, September 10, 1999 5:51 PM >Subject: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] My Kentucky > > >>My only claim to KY. fame is that my family lived across the highway (60) >and down a short piece >>from Colonel Sanders in Shelbyville. Actually he did not move there from >the Eastern KY. mts. >>till he was already quite old and well known---white haired, wearing only >white suits, and >>driving a white Caddie convertable! >> >>The colonel just came in off the road one day unannounced and knocked on my >neighbor's door. He >>told him that he liked his house and wanted to buy it! My neighbor said it >was not for sale. The >>colonel pulled out a huge wad of cash and said that everything is for sale >if you are willing to >>pay for it! So he kept raising the offer until my neighbor took it! Then >the colonel moved in >>with his ex-wife and their adopted daughter. He had divorced his wife and >married the >>daughter!!!!!! How's that for a household? The three of them lived there >for the rest of their >>lives. The wife/daughter just died about a year ago. >> >>Behind the house he built a lovely restaurant because he missed cooking >himself! So any day you >>might have found this multi-millionaire in the kitchen cooking! It was no >KFC, much more >>elegant with a quite excellent and varied menu. It was beautifully paneled >throughout. Last >>winter it burned to the ground, but the heirs plan to rebuild it. >> >>As a child, I traveled all over Central KY. with my grandfather because he >was in the >>legislature, and I would go with him when he campaigned. Later I traveled >over all the state with >>him when he ran for Lt. governor with Happy Chandler. >> >>Next week I am going to MO. on a genealogical jaunt, so I shall have to >UNsubscribe then since I >>cannot let my free mailbox get too full or they will stop my mail. >> >>Cheers all! >> >>Elizabeth >>Illinois >> >> >>> >> > >

I dont really recall too many haunted houses, except this one. The backyard had an alley that was behind it, and the house was empty, really a dump, and we heard that it was full of ghosts. So every time we had to go by the house, we ran like crazy. No one ever dared to even go in the yard.

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