Hi Pat! I love this story. Thanks for sharing. Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Oneal <peon@icx.net> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] My Kentucky > If you recall, there was later "Daniel Boone Fried Chicken" which soon fell > through and lots of people lost their investments, including a co-worker of > mine. The creator of DBFC was the Colonel's son-in-law. I believe there > was a big controversy over him stealing the Colonel's secret recipe. > When I was in high school, a jeweler downtown, kinda new in the > community, also had his secret herbs and spices that he was trying to get > patented, or whatever you do with recipes. I remember stopping in his store > after school. He was very friendly with us high school kids. He told me > about his secret recipe. Guess it fell through. Never heard anymore about > it. And, NO! I don't have the recipe. > Pat > -----Original Message----- > From: barbara <barm@bellsouth.net> > To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com > <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 2:50 PM > Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] My Kentucky > > > >Pat, I did see the Colonel's auto on AE and it was very very interesting. > > > >Do you happen to know the secret recipe (grin) > > > >Now, I have to tell a story--- the truth really. > > > >We went to my husbands Aunt's house who lived in Arkansas and for dinner, > >she had the most delicious fried chicken. I told her it tasted so much > >like Ky fried chicken, and would she please give me the recipe of how she > >cooked it. > > > >She just smiled and said , sure, no trouble at all. > > > >Well, when we were washing dishes, i looked over in the corner in the > >garbage can, and sat an empty bucket FROM KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN > > > >Her secret was Out. I really did tease her for years over this. But I > >guess the joke was really on me, as I thought I was getting a recipe just > >like the Colonel had. > > > > > > > > >

Hi Pat, Thank you for sharing with us your memories of the 1940s. I have read some on Oak Ridge and know it was built my the US Government to make military weapons such as bombs. I have always been afraid to visit Oak Ridge for that reason. Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Oneal <peon@icx.net> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 1:06 AM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] HELLO KENTUCKY LEGENDERS > I was just a child of seven in 1943, but I certainly remember pulling > the shades and extinguishing the lights. I lived 9 miles from Oak Ridge, > TN, the number one enemy target in the U.S. My dad worked in Oak Ridge, and > my brother was killed in a B-17 bomber in South Dakota. Yes, I remember the > rationing of stamps well. It was very difficult for a large family. > Customers would fight over a pound of meat at the grocery. The mill across > the street that had made ladies nylon hosiery was making parachutes for the > war effort. The sirens blew from across the street alerting residents of a > blackout. My story is too long to tell. Pat > > > -----Original Message----- > From: barbara <barm@bellsouth.net> > To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com > <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 7:50 PM > Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] HELLO KENTUCKY LEGENDERS > > > >Ramona, > > > >This is the most friendly list I have seen. But of course, arent most > >Kentuckians friendly/ > > > >I know it is not very nice to ask people's ages. But!!!!!!!!! it would be > >interesting to know how some of us old ones lived during the war years in > >the 40's. Ration stamps, paper drives, > >blackouts ---- remember how we use to have to have dark curtains at the > >windows and at certain times we would h ave air raids and it would be > >lights out. I remember that from living in the big city of Covington . I > >dont recall ever doing it on the farm in the country. > > > >And my grandmother would have these stars in the window, one for each son > >she had in the service. > > > >And the ice man, I am sure there are those who remember him. > > > >Now, I dont mind telling, I was just a teen during these years. > > > >I think it is just so interesting to go back and share our past way of > >living. > > > > > > > > >

Hi Liv, Do you know the ghost stories about the Kentucky Derby? We would love for you to share them with us. Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: Olivia Haughn <Evvia@webtv.net> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 1:23 PM Subject: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] more stories > I loved the boogers and haints a book on some ones list.....How about > sharing some of the legends?????? Ky. has Ky. Derby does any one live > close enough to have heard of the ghosts that haunt the stables and / > or the track? Or the one the radio anouncers see? It would be > neat to read o'er the net of local out looks on famous spots of ghost. > Just this last week-end our local river gaduate hich-hiked a ride with > some young man and vanished before he got to a bridge and get to ask > any questions. Thats only the 3 rd time that that one has made the > papers here. Our old Hershey's owned opra House 1885 vintage has an > everynight ghost. > >

Hi Liv! Thank you for my numbers profile---fascinating. Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: Olivia Haughn <Evvia@webtv.net> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 1:11 PM Subject: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] FUN Time > Hi List. Oh such a varied gang.....I feel honored to be in such > friendly company. I'm retired from the medical profession, grew up > in San Francisco & across the bay lived or worked in a fewof them. > Now live in the hot valley. I have 2 girls that I rarely ever see....And > a son in Wal-Marts home town of Bentonville, Ar. Last evening i > visited with some college friends had'nt seen a couple of them for > almost 30 years. In the early 60's when it was popular we 3 Ladies > took a class at the local jr. college og Astrology and Numerology. > Had'nt even thought of it for quiet some time ...........so when Ramona > put her dates down I just thought since this might me a ghosty site I > would do a quickie on the dates Ramona is i # 9 super power.Lovely lady > usually in leadership jobs.....the downer..........if they don't allow > control to run wild they are destined to be leading many in many > faucets of activies.========husband is a # 7. Spiritual, and also a > leader..God gives many thials and lessons to have them turn to him for > :elp and blessings. This is meant for an amusing side track only. > Liv > >

Hi Mary, I find this so interesting--growing vegetables in the desert. Let us know how everything turns out. Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mbdiggin@aol.com> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] Re: Cumberland Falls > Hi Becky, > Welcome! Another Kentuckian living in Arizona. I live in Tucson, and I > believe at last count there were 2 others. There really is a wonderful bunch > of people on this site. > Mary > >

Hi Lynn, Your trip sounds great--and I hope you connect with Bobbie and All at Cumberland Falls. Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynn McKay <granny2Lynne@LORETTOTEL.NET> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] Re: Cumberland Falls > When exactly will you all be at Cumberland Falls? I going to Fla, SC, VA > and then to MO during two weeks next month. If your visit coincides, I > could come back through KY instead of TN, and say howdy. > > Lynn > -----Original Message----- > From: Bobbie Lewallen <blallen@ccdi.net> > To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com > <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 12:31 PM > Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] Re: Cumberland Falls > > > >Good Afternoon Everyone!!! > >And, welcome, Becky!!!!! I should have wrote a welcome earlier, but I was > up > >late last night & slept late this morning! <G> Ramona, I met Becky through > >another list, and she is a real Sweetie!!!! Better get some "haint" stories > >ready, because she loves them!!! I will be meeting her for the first time > >when we all get together next month at Cumberland Falls!! I can hardly > wait! > >We are gonna do a lot of searching for our KY roots and do a lot of > >talking!Welcome to Grandma Fern! Loved reading your bio! Like you, I love > >reading all of them. I would like to say welcome to all the other new ones > >also. Joann had a great idea for everyone to post their bios. That way we > >could learn a little about each other. So you new ones, post yours! > >Bobbie > > > >

Hi Leona, I will check on how to find Kentucky Towns--Old Villages Gone and get back to you. Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: Leona Crist <lcrist@ardmore.com> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 3:26 PM Subject: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] German Kentucky > Has anyone ever heard of a place called German Kentucky?... It doesn't exist anymore, its considered part of Prestonsburg. That is were I was actually born. Leona > >

Hi Leona, Did you notice that Jerry has the Music surname in her family? I am still sitting with Sturgills in hand saying--Ah Ha--Oh No! I will get the new family info out to you as soon as possible. Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: Leona Crist <lcrist@ardmore.com> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 1:13 AM Subject: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] Music's and Setsers > Hey everyone, I've been given some more names of my descendants tonight!!!!! yea!!!! I'll post what I have on the 1880 census of my family. 1880 Floyd Co Census. Anyone out there Kin? Leona > > House hold #99 > Andrew Musick 47 va nc tn (GREAT, Great, Grandfather) > Emily 42 ky ky va (Great, Great Grandmother) > Daniel 17 > John 15 > James 14 (This is Jim)(my Great Grandfather) > Newton 12 > Eligah 12 > Marion 10 > Vesti 8 > Archer 6 > Samuel 3 > Nancy 3 > > Maybe this is where your twins show up? > > household # 120 > Samuel M.Setser 51 nc nc tn (GREAT, Great, Grandfather) > Elizabeth 46 Great, Great Grandmother)Clerendy 16 > Henry P 14 > Caroline 11 > Emily F. 5 (she married Jim above)(My GreatGrandmother) > john C 1 > >

Mary; Here are my surnames: Chandler, Wright, Sturgill, Hatton, Ginter, Boone, Webb, Cooksey, Jobe, Morris, Holbrook, Walters, Craycraft, Highley, Crouch,Young, Pennington, Wells, Hash, Blackstone, Wells, Madison, Adams, Maugridge are most of them. Joann ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mbdiggin@aol.com> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 2:01 AM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] KENTUCKY LEGENDS > Hi Joan, > What surnames are you searching? I also have VA and NC ancestors. > Mary

Hi Joann, Your supper last night sounds delicious! Where do you live in KY? I still visit Elliott and Carter Counties in Kentucky. Sincerely, Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: Joann Holland <joemar@kyol.net> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 7:46 PM Subject: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] KENTUCKY LEGENDS > I love your alls mail. It means so much to me each day. You have so > many great ideas. I live in Kentucky after being away all these years, and > still I don't know many of the things which you are talking about. Yet so > many of them bring back such wonderful memories. > > Would you believe I fixed cabbage, potatoes, and ham all boiled up together > today with fried cornbread on the side. Now you know I did > not need any of that. But it sure was good. > > You all make me proud to be a kENTUCIAN and my roots mean more > than they ever did. There are so many that have no idea what Kentucky's > past is all about or how grand its people really have been. My family came > to Kentucky from VA and NC generations ago. They were proud strong > people that had worked hard all of their lives and actually made Kentucky > what it is today as well as us. > > Joann > > >

Good for you Mary. Sometimes these high faluting professionals need put in their place a little. I bet he didn't bother much after that either. Some people thought they were passing out preserves in heaven when they asked who wants nerves and they have way too much for their own good AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S TOO!!!!!! Joann ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mbdiggin@aol.com> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 1:53 AM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] > I was born in WV and was called a hillbilly. Even when I went to KY which > was only 30 miles away, people laughed at the way I talked. Anyway, > northerners would alway say people from WV had one leg shorter than the other > from walking on the side of the hills. When I moved to Akron, OH from KY I > went to work in a hospital as a Surgical Secretary. There was a really hi > falutin Dr who thought he was better than anyone and he always made fun of > the way I talked. One day I gave him a message that he was to call his > office right now. He said, "Rat now, rat now, didn't they teach you how to > talk where you came from". I replied that I might not talk the way he > thought I should, but one thing I was taught that apparently he wasn't, that > it was not polite to put down other people. Needless to say I was not one of > his favorite people after that. > Mary

HI Becky, Thank you---I love your Dad's song about Army Biscuits. This describes my biscuits to a tee---but I make very good Spatter Bread. Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bokaygal@aol.com> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] biscuits > Bobbie, > > My dad used to sing a song: > > "The biscuits in the army, they say are mighty fine. > One rolled off the table, and killed a pal of mine" > > THAT'S a good description of MY biscuits! LOL!!! > > Becky in AZ > > In a message dated 9/11/99 2:40:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > blallen@ccdi.net writes: > > << I still don't see how they can > pinch off a piece of dough & wham! A couple of fast rolls & it is smooth as > a baby's bottom! I have to work at getting the horns off mine! LOL >> > >

Hi Becky, We love having another Chatty Cathy on the list. I know you will fall in love with Kentucky and its people; Cumberland Falls and the area around it---The Daniel National Forest--is breath-taking. Enjoy the warmth of people and the wonderful meals served in the Lodge Dining Room. You can watch the birds, squirrels, and just admire the beauty of Nature. It is Serene. Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bokaygal@aol.com> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 11:17 AM Subject: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] Re: Cumberland Falls > Good morning to all, > > I am a new subscriber as of last night , thanks to my pal, Bobbie telling me > about you. After reading the first 3 or 4 posts, I can tell you I'm HAPPY to > be here with you folks! Friendly list! > > Rhonda, you asked if anyone has stayed at Cumberland Falls park -- I can tell > you that in just 6 short weeks, myself and several other friends will be > staying there for 4 days! I can hardly wait - it's my first trip to KY! > Apparently the moonbow is a "sight to see" as my granny Hamblin would have > said. > > I hope its ok to post this on your list .... my KY roots are mostly from > Central KY - Scott, Laurel and Garrard, and the mountain areas of Whitley, > Bell, Clay, Knox, Garrard, Laurel. Surnames are Hamblin, Gatliff, Parker, > Johnson, Brock, Shepherd. > > Thank you for allowing this "Chatty Cathy" to ramble this morning - and > again, thanks for your friendly list. > > Becky in AZ > >

Hi Bobbie, I will ask permission to use the other list that does the Scavenger Hunts; and if we get the OK will post how it is done. Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobbie Lewallen <blallen@ccdi.net> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] GOOD SATURDAY MORNING! > Ramona, > Great idea about the scavenger hunt, but how do we do one? I'm a dummy when > it comes to some things! Sounds interesting! > Bobbie > >

Hi Bobbie, We also have red-heads in our family and we are related to the King Family. Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobbie Lewallen <blallen@ccdi.net> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 2:34 PM Subject: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] Good Afternoon!! > Hi Everyone! > Just got on my computer & been reading all the bios. Loving every minute of > it!!! It makes one think that we know each other a little better now!! That > was a great idea! Kay, have you ever thought of publishing your > grandfather's journal? I would be one of the first to buy a copy! Can't tell > you enough how I envy you on that! > I hope everyone else just jumps right in & tells a little or a lot about > themselves! I'm C/P all to a Word Document, so I won't lose them. Marla, you > have redheads in your family! So do I. My mother came from a family of 10 > kids, & they were all redheads!!! I have 2 brothers that are redheads also. > The Bridges line is full of red hair!!! You asked about the Angel name. My > great great, Enos King married Nancy Angel. They are buried in Scott Co. TN, > but they lived part of their lives in Whitley Co. KY. I don't have anything > on her line yet. > I live close enough to KY, that I go there a lot. Matter of fact, I'm going > to Williamsburg this evening to their Old Fashion Days. Never been to that > before, & I'm looking forward to it! Well, just got on to say hello to > everyone! So, I'll go for now! > Bobbie > >

Hi Barbara, Did anyone ever say why the house was haunted? Was there a Legend about the house? Thank you, Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: barbara <barm@bellsouth.net> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] haunted houses > I dont really recall too many haunted houses, except this one. The > backyard had an alley that was behind it, and the house was empty, really a > dump, and we heard that it was full of ghosts. So every time we had to go > by the house, we ran like crazy. No one ever dared to even go in the > yard. > > >

Hi Barbara! What is a icq? Do you have to down-load something to chat with a icq? Thank you, Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: barbara <barm@bellsouth.net> To: <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] FUN Time > Hi all > > How many are on icq???????? you can get on icq and chat with several people > at one time. > Idont know what the limit is. > > my icq is 14162222 > > > > barbara > >

Pat, I don't know, but we called it a press anyway. We called the pieces of furniture that you put you clothes in Shiff Robes. Mary

Mary, When I worked at UK Med. Center, I ran into the same kind of doctors. Their arrogance was something to behold, or not behold I should say. I was made fun of too. They laughed at the way I said cigar and guitar. Emphasis on the first syllable instead of the last. Pat -----Original Message----- From: Mbdiggin@aol.com <Mbdiggin@aol.com> To: KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com <KENTUCKY-LEGENDS-L@folklore.rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 1:55 AM Subject: Re: [KENTUCKY-LEGENDS AND FOLKLORE] >I was born in WV and was called a hillbilly. Even when I went to KY which >was only 30 miles away, people laughed at the way I talked. Anyway, >northerners would alway say people from WV had one leg shorter than the other >from walking on the side of the hills. When I moved to Akron, OH from KY I >went to work in a hospital as a Surgical Secretary. There was a really hi >falutin Dr who thought he was better than anyone and he always made fun of >the way I talked. One day I gave him a message that he was to call his >office right now. He said, "Rat now, rat now, didn't they teach you how to >talk where you came from". I replied that I might not talk the way he >thought I should, but one thing I was taught that apparently he wasn't, that >it was not polite to put down other people. Needless to say I was not one of >his favorite people after that. >Mary > >

Thanks Pat, That was just like Grandma told it. Mary