I'm in agreement with Pat. Very few of us have come close to paying our way for all of the genealogy information that is on the Internet. I certainly haven't contributed 10% of the time or money that many have given freely. i spend a lot of money every year, travelling to courthouses all over the Eastern United States, which cost a lot of money, so I should be hapy to contribute something to the multiplicity of sources available on the beloved Web. Jim Patrick Tampa, Florida Researching 4 distinct lines: 1. Hall & House (MD>PA>KY>IN), Presley (KY), Banta (NJ>KY>IN>IL?), Britton (Eng>OH>IN), Wetzel (Ger>OH>IN), Danner, Pherigo (KY>IN), Fallis, and Demarest (FR>Eng>NJ>KY) 2. Patrick (PA>NC>IN), Abel/Abell/Able (MD?>KY>IN), Beatty (VA>OH>IN), Shumway (NY>IN), Downs (OH>IN), Brown (MA>VT>NY>OH>IN), Rockwell, (NS>CT>NY), Barney, Shidler, Holman, Jacobs (PA>NC>IN>OH), Dowden, Cheyney, Gaither 3. Groutage (Eng>CO>IL), Fletcher (Eng>IL), Raybould (Eng), Salisbury, Baker, Bucy, Freeman (NY>IL), Mendenhall, Clark, Plate, Gustine (NY>OH>IL), 4. Brown (VA>TN>IN>IL), Spears (NC>TN), Tackett (KY?>TN), Casteel (Native American NC>TN), Sherrill (NC>TN>IL), Payne, Trobaugh (VA>TN>IN>IL), Hull (PA>VA> TN), Lingenfelter, Isom, Byrum, Stacy.

Firs off, I have been searching for Lena GRAHAM b. 1817, KY father may have been William GRAHAM b. between 1790 - 1800. Second: I have to agree with Pat, I am amazed at how FAST, how MUCH Ancestry puts up information. Without Ancestry I would not have much. Of course I was able to order original documents from their indexes but then I had to spend more money, and I agree this is what I like and I don't go out and spend money either, so this is where my hobby money goes as well. I am not currently a member of Ancestry but was for a year. I do think Ancestry probably makes enough money to continue to provide the little 5 mb of space, but if you times that by how many "free" sites they have put up the sum is very large. I have read recently and I am sure many have that these genealogy websites were not prepared and have over millions of visitors everyday. Imagine the expences Ancestry has with their human resources, many of us have flipped through census microfilm or images can you imagine the $$ paid for the time of all the people out there uploading these millions of records. What a FUN and INTERESTING business Ancestry.com has made for themself and as I know it today is the ONLY inexpensive and HONEST pay site there is. Not to mention the merge with RootsWeb, smart move they have increased traffic...I'm sure. And now we are PRETTY SURE RootsWeb will not go away because Ancestry makes more $$ and more records are put up and supporting RootsWeb is a HUGE part of a genealogists life, so lets face it. We all need to support Ancestry so they can continue to support RootsWeb.com I hardly EVER express my opinion, usually just read and of course here I go and I am SO NEW to this LIST....lol Hope I have not offended anyone. 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Hi list I don't see a problem here. I've been paying my way for my "MyFamily.com" website for quite awhile now. Seems that there may have been a "free" small site, but the paid site is much better. Of course, you don't have to have a site. Frankly, it is hard to keep one up, so it is up to you. No one visits my site except relatives I've invited. Just try to remember that "they" (whoever they are) have to pay for the servers and all the allied service to keep them up and running. If "we" don't pay for it, who will? I don't think MyFamily.com is a charity. And, frankly, even those who have been set up as "not-for-profits" are finding it hard going and some have moved their stuff to paid sites. This is my hobby. I don't golf, don't go to a lot of movies, etc. So, this is where my money goes. Pat (in Tucson) -----Original Message----- From: A. Shatt [mailto:gen_volunteer@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 20:39 To: KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KY] What won't they think of next? Well, I wonder what theyll be charging for next?? Freepages, genweb, these mailing lists? Sounds fishy to me. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Important Notice About Your MyFamily.com Website All free websites must be upgraded to paid websites before June 23. We've been proud to offer the leading family website service for nearly five years. The enthusiasm you and other customers have shown has been incredible. In order to continue providing this service, we have made the difficult decision to convert all MyFamily sites to paid sites. This means that one member of each MyFamily site will need to pay the annual fee in order for the site to remain active. When one member pays for the site, all other site members enjoy the same benefits for free. To make upgrading as easy as possible, we're offering a 66% discount for the first year to customers who upgrade their sites now. Please note that all unpaid websites will become inaccessible June 23. Upgrade Now and get the following benefits: Save 66% off the regular price Upgrade now and you'll get your first year for only $9.95. Unlimited website users Only one person needs to pay, all other members get free access. 100 MB of space Post photos, news, home videos and more. No pop-up advertising Your website will be free from pop-up ads! Rediscover the advantages of your MyFamily.com website Keep your family connected through event announcements and family newsletters. Create an online family directory complete with telephone numbers, addresses and e-mail accounts. Establish a sense of community by sharing photos, news, online chats and more. Make a digital scrapbook. Website members can post their favorite stories, home movies and family photos. Still have questions? Does every member of a family website need to pay? No. Only one person needs to pay for the website in order for all other website members to enjoy the same benefits. What will happen if my website is not paid for before June 23? After June 23, the content on your unpaid websites will become inaccessible. You will still be able to log on to MyFamily.com and locate your website, but you will not be able to view photos, news items or other content until the website is upgraded. Can I pay without a credit card? Yes. If you wish to pay by check or money order for the upgrade of your MyFamily.com website, please send payment to: MyFamily.com, Inc. Attention: Sales PO Box 990 Orem, UT 84059 Please include your name, e-mail address and MyFamily.com username as well as the name of the specific MyFamily.com website that you wish to upgrade. Once payment has been sent, please allow two to three weeks for the payment to be applied. After one year, your upgrade will expire unless we receive payment for another year. Thank you for your continued interest in keeping your MyFamily.com website. Best regards, MyFamily.com Upgrade Your Website | Go To Your Website _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ==== KENTUCKY Mailing List ==== The Registry -- NEW -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~archreg/ Help defeat spam ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Well, I wonder what theyll be charging for next?? Freepages, genweb, these mailing lists? Sounds fishy to me. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Important Notice About Your MyFamily.com Website All free websites must be upgraded to paid websites before June 23. We've been proud to offer the leading family website service for nearly five years. The enthusiasm you and other customers have shown has been incredible. In order to continue providing this service, we have made the difficult decision to convert all MyFamily sites to paid sites. This means that one member of each MyFamily site will need to pay the annual fee in order for the site to remain active. When one member pays for the site, all other site members enjoy the same benefits for free. To make upgrading as easy as possible, we're offering a 66% discount for the first year to customers who upgrade their sites now. Please note that all unpaid websites will become inaccessible June 23. Upgrade Now and get the following benefits: Save 66% off the regular price Upgrade now and you'll get your first year for only $9.95. Unlimited website users Only one person needs to pay, all other members get free access. 100 MB of space Post photos, news, home videos and more. No pop-up advertising Your website will be free from pop-up ads! Rediscover the advantages of your MyFamily.com website Keep your family connected through event announcements and family newsletters. Create an online family directory complete with telephone numbers, addresses and e-mail accounts. Establish a sense of community by sharing photos, news, online chats and more. Make a digital scrapbook. Website members can post their favorite stories, home movies and family photos. Still have questions? Does every member of a family website need to pay? No. Only one person needs to pay for the website in order for all other website members to enjoy the same benefits. What will happen if my website is not paid for before June 23? After June 23, the content on your unpaid websites will become inaccessible. You will still be able to log on to MyFamily.com and locate your website, but you will not be able to view photos, news items or other content until the website is upgraded. Can I pay without a credit card? Yes. If you wish to pay by check or money order for the upgrade of your MyFamily.com website, please send payment to: MyFamily.com, Inc. Attention: Sales PO Box 990 Orem, UT 84059 Please include your name, e-mail address and MyFamily.com username as well as the name of the specific MyFamily.com website that you wish to upgrade. Once payment has been sent, please allow two to three weeks for the payment to be applied. After one year, your upgrade will expire unless we receive payment for another year. Thank you for your continued interest in keeping your MyFamily.com website. Best regards, MyFamily.com Upgrade Your Website | Go To Your Website _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

About charging for information. I some instances I can see it. But most of what some sites have is what they have "harvest" from those of us who had freely sent in to USGen Web and other places. Then they take that and put it in CD''s and charge others what we shared freely. - But people have an option where or not to buy, and some people just don't have the money to spend on that . Our children our grown, but if you have children in school there is always needs, and there are many people out of work etc. I think it would be a hardship on many if most sites began charging , but that is just my opinion. Nancy

I am glad you found Carrie's maiden name. I was going to email you yesterday but got too tired. I did a search of the IL State Archives for all the Carrie's married to WOODS and luckily found only 6 -- hers was the last match. What exactly is it that you want to find. I may be able to look up some things. RC

Looking for Genealogy info on the following Woods Family William W Woods Born Jan 1868 in Illinois married Carrie Mattingly January 05, 1899 Gallatin Illinois Child Son - William Lawrence Woods Born 1902 in Illinois William Lawrence Woods married Jettie Sue McKeaig born October 23, 1899 in Kentucky died January 24, 1969 Children Son - William Woods Daughter - Joan Woods Son - John Doris Woods born December 23, 1926 Sturgis Kentucky John Doris Woods Married Barbara Tisdale Barron Kentucky Children Son - Steven Woods, Sr. born 1950 Daughter - Laura Dickey Woods Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

Hi List, Thanks to all who replied to my question: Are there state census for Kentucky? The answer is no. Thanks, Michael J. SMITH msmith4@gt.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael J. Smith" <msmith4@gt.rr.com> To: <KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 1:25 AM Subject: Are there state census for Kentucky? What years? > Hi List, > Are there state census for Kentucky? What years? > Thanks, > Michael J. SMITH > msmith4@gt.rr.com >

My apologies if you receive this more than once...Sherri Please check out the Rootsweb help page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi This notice has been posted: 2003-06-11 The entire RootsWeb.com website will be down for several hours Thursday morning, while our technical staff completes routine maintenance from approximately 1-4 a.m. (Mountain). We apologize for the inconvenience, and encourage you to use our sister sites during this down time -- Watch for more information at http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi Estimated downtime is 1 day.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Johnson Crow" <amy@amyjohnsoncrow.com> To: "Yolanda Lifter" <ylifter@ohiofamilyresearch.com> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 6:22 PM Subject: Re: House Bill 95 > Hi Yolanda, > > I didn't know if you had seen the latest on House Bill 95. I wrote this > earlier today for the OGS Chapter Channel. Feel free to forward it anywhere > you'd like. We tried; we really did try. We gave them good, logical, > reasonable, rational arguments and it just wasn't enough. > > It was good running into you in Pittsburgh! > > Take care, > Amy > ============= > > Major Changes to Ohio Vital Records Access > > We lost on Ohio House Bill 95. > > On 5 June, the Senate approved House Bill 95 (it was approved by the Senate > Finance Committee on 3 June). With HB95, there will no longer be > uncertified copies of vital records available from the Ohio Department of > Health and the local vital statistics registrars. Also, certified copies > will have an additional $5 surcharge (making the cost of a certified copy a > minimum of $15, as the local registrars will also no longer be allowed to > charge less than the state). > > House Bill 95 will go into effect 1 July 2003. > > You can read the bill as passed by the Senate at: > http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/BillText125/125_HB_95_PS_N.html > > The pertinent sections are 3705.23 and 3705.24. (It is a huge page; be > patient while it loads.) > > Because this language matches the House version of the bill, there is > little hope that it would change in the committee working to reconcile the > House and Senate versions. > > The Ohio Genealogical Society Board of Trustees approved a resolution > explaining the ramifications of HB95 to Ohio genealogists. Copies of this > resolution was hand-delivered to every Ohio Senator's office. > Representatives of the Board met with representatives of the Ohio > Department of Health. Included in the resolution and in the discussions > were good, reasonable, logical explanations as to why eliminating > uncertified copies will do nothing to prevent identity theft. We gave them > possible alternatives so that uncertified copies would no longer be a > financial hardship on the agencies involved. Even with these actions, as > well as the countless phone calls, letters, and e-mails to the Ohio Senate > from genealogists and organizations from across the state and the nation, > the bill went through unchanged. > > It is likely (even probable) that the next step will be to restrict access > -- either with a time restriction and/or an access restriction (only > qualified parties can get a copy of the record). People have reported that > local vital statistics registrars are stating that they are not allowed to > issue copies except to the person or the next of kin. HB 95 made no such > provisions. However, these instances of restrictions need to be noted so > that those agencies can be properly informed on what the current > requirements are. > > It is a very sad time in Ohio genealogy. Unfortunately, this may be only > the tip of the iceberg.

There are 2 John CARTERs on the 1820 census for Nelson Co... Page 185 and page 205... Can someone give me a readout of them... Ages, number of Kids, and any other info offered. Also, if on 1830 also, same info, please. Thanks very much, Dick Carter rcar37@prodigy.net

The only positive I found was 1900 Indiana - William (KY), 58, and Nancy, 52, (10 children) Strocksdill. Not much help in finding his parents tho. Found an 1860 Wm Strocksdill in KY but he was only 11. Amazing how this name must have been misspelled. RC

RC, When they came to MO, it was STOGSDILL or STOCKSTILL. I have much on the line and would be happy to exchange if you think it was the same family. The family was from Pulaski Co., KY. Lanita Sconce Miller Wichita, KS Researching my lines: ARNOLD, BELLAH, BENNETT, CLOAR, COUCH, DAVIS [2 lines], DETHROW, DUBOISE, DYER, ELLIOTT, FERRELL, JUSTICE, KIRK, MARRIOTT, MAYFIELD, MCBREYER, MCWILLIAMS, PRINCE, RIMMER, ROSSELL, SCONCE, STOGSDILL, SUPLER, TAYLOR, and many connecting families. Husband's line: BURDETT, CHAPMAN, DOWELL, HAYDEN, MILLER, and many connecting families. For information on my families, check out my website: www.lanitasloft.com I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNE Flower.

If anyone has the marriage indexes for Mercer Co for the 1920-1940 period would they please look for a Vera WADE. She was b. abt. 1905 thus I am estimating a marriage would have been in the 1920-1940 period. Thank you, Eldon Researching: WADE, HAMES

Looking for the burial site for Martha H. Pruitt Frank(s) b. about 1838 and died about 1929. Age 91. Lived in Grayson and maybe Breckinridge counties in Ky. She was the daughter of Alen Pruitt and Nancy Drane.

Does anyone have any info on the Vera WADE who appears as a 14 year old niece living with Evert WILDER and wife Rose? They are on the 1920 Mercer Co (Stringtown township) census. Any help appreciated. Thank you. Eldon List Admin for SC Old 96 District Researching: WADE, HAMES

Will someone plese do a marriage lookup for me for John Hiram McKINLEY and Lavinia (?) about 1901. This is the second marriage for both of them. John may have married first about 1878. I do not have a name for first marriage. Thanks for your help. Frances

Looking for the parents of Wm J. STROXDILE b. 1841 in Russell Co Ky m. 22 Dec. 1866 in Somerset Ky to Nancy McLIN/ MACKLIN Served in the Civil War. Surname was spelled Strocksdill . Have found some Stroxdell's in the index of the Deed Book of {Pulaski Co in 1866. ( Couldn't get the film to work to see the pages,but anyway) His father's surname could have been spelled Stroxdell. Any one see any thing out there. We're not related to the Stogsdill's of Pulaski. Nancy S. Lllyd

I have done the Big error. In my files, is a 1812 roster with Richard Parsons, 2 reg't. (Tisdale's) North Carolina Militia and no reference. I believe the Richard from Lee County VA was to old for this war, but perhaps his son Does anyone have any further information ? Joe Fothergill

The sixth annual Nelson Family Reunion for the descendants of Jave and Ellen Evans Nelson will be Saturday June 28, 2003, at the Farmers Grove Baptist Church fellowship hall, beginning at 11:30 A. M. Bring covered dishes for lunch, pictures, family stories, and other memorabilia for sharing. We are in the process of compiling a family cookbook, so we would like recipes from everyone. There will be fun and games for the kids after lunch. Jave Nelson is said to be a direct descendant of Joseph Anderson for whom Anderson County is named. Joseph Anderson was a Revolutionary War soldier, U. S. congressman, and first comptroller of the U. S. Treasury. He is buried in the Congressional Cemetery in Washington, D. C. Ellen Evans Nelson's parents were Thomas J. Evans and Permelia York Evans, daughter of Joseph York who was born in Tennessee in 1802, and Mary York. Thomas and Permelia came to Tennessee after the Civil War. Thomas Evans and other family members are buried in Sunset Cemetery in Anderson County. Permelia York Evans supposedly died and was buried at Clouds Switch, TN in Claiborne County, TN in 1901. Jave and Ellen's children included David, Henry, Catherine Nelson Tadlock, Frank, Tom, Cynthia Nelson Wilson, Page, Taylor, Sam, Clara, and two others who died as infants. Jave and Ellen are buried in the Liberty Cemetery near New Salem Baptist Church. Jave possibly had a sister named Margaret. Ellen Evans Nelson's siblings included Hugh Evans, former Clinton city marshall, Silas, Mary Evans Phelps, Martha, Sintha, Thomas Milton and John. Jave Nelson was sometimes called J. M. or Jabers. If any of these names ring a bell, we'd love to hear from you. You may contact: Carolyn Nelson Johnson at <mamawcarolyn@ntown.com>.