Found this going through some archives..thought it might be of some help or it might be more confusion<G>. Marlene Old Namin Pattern The first son was named after the father's father The second son was named after the mothers's father. The first daughter was named after the mother's mother. The second daughter was named after the father's mother. The third son was named after the father. The third daughter was named after the mother. The fourth son was named after the father's eldest brother. The fourth daughter was named after the mothers' eldest sister.