Hello Kathryn and List, Thanks Kathryn for bringing this out but the renaming of towns had started from the first settlements in the new world. In the case of my Harris ancestors they settled around Bloomfield, Davis Co., IA., during the late 1840's, just northeast of Bloomfield you will see the town of Fairfield, inside Jefferson Co., IA. They were descendants of early settlers of Jefferson, Nelson, Hardin and Grayson County's of Kentucky. If you find on a map, Bardstown, Nelson Co., KY and just northeast a few miles you will see the towns of Fairfield and Bloomfield. I have researched the history of Davis Co., IA., and have seen it written, by historians, that they were unsure where the name Bloomfield came from! I believe it was the pioneer Kentuckians that reused these home town names. You will also find these names in New Jersey! That's where many of them started their migration from in the late 1700's. Good luck on your research, Mike Lamb >From: KaUzGr@aol.com >To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HH] Migration Patterns >Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 23:04:34 EDT > >After the Civil War, settlers in Alabama, Mississippi, and other Southern >states moved even further--to Texas. Many of them lost their lands in the >Southeastern states because they couldn't pay taxes or else their homes >were >burned. So, they "pulled up stakes" and moved to another new place to >begin >afresh. > >I also find it interesting that, along the trails to the South and West, >the >names of towns are repeated. When groups moved further west, they settled >in a place and gave it the same name as the place from whence they came. >Example, some moved from Marion, SC to middle Alabama (Marion, AL) to >Marion, MS, >to Marion, LA. If we were to closely study maps of the Southeastern >states, >I think we could find many examples of such patterns. Similarly, >immigrants >named their settlements in the U.S. after the names of towns they left in >Europe. > >When you are looking for "lost ancestors," you might look for them in towns >with names the same as the ones from which they vanished. Just a thought! > >Kathryn > > >==== HARRIS-HUNTERS Mailing List ==== >HH Archives: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >HH Site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~confido/hindex2.htm >HH Data Base: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=harrishunters >

Penny, Were they Catholic, if so try the Catholic Cemeteries office in Louisville, KY and under the heading "Agencies" you will find the information for their office. There is even an email address isted. http://www.archlou.org/ Good luck, Sharrie

Hello List, THIS IS AN UPDATE on GOSS and DETCHEN Still searching for a Cemetery in Louisiville, KY located near 16th Street. for the Henry DETCHEN and his family. Rebecca Akin bur. Clk Co. IN and Wm. Henry Goss bur. Jack. Co. IN who marr. 30 Sep 1838. Their children were: Frederick N., George M. and Anna Goss. All born ca 1840s in Clark Co. IN. I am in need of the marr. ca 1860/63 of their dau. Anna C. Goss to Henry Detchen, poss. IN or Louisville, KY. This name is misspelled in the Louisville, KY 1880 census as Ditchen, and in a newspaper article as Dutchen. Henry is deceased and his widow, Anna and their children were located in Soundex Code D-325 1880 Jefferson Co. Louisville, Kentucky Ward 11, ED 147-10-11, lived 156 16th St. Anna (Goss) Ditchen/Dutchen, correct spelling is Detchen, born 1848, Clark Co. IN, Anna age 32, ; Tillie is age 22, also a Ditchen and a widow, b. ca 1858 OH, The women were listed as cousins. Their husband's parents born Germany, Anna and Tillie were unemployed. Would anyone in Louisville please tell me what cemetery would be close to sixteenth street. If any reader has any info on this family I would surly love to hear from you! Penny Hobson __SnOOOpy839@aol.com_ (mailto:_SnOOOpy839@aol.com)

In a message dated 4/17/2005 4:01:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, diannein@yahoo.com writes: > I'm sorry - I don't find census-on line very friendly. > I must be missing something - a lot of the places to > click say "Page can not be displayed". > > Maybe you can give us all a step by step lesson? > > Thanks for helping. Some of us are just slow. > > Dianne Sure Diane, Step by step lesson it is...Just keep in mind that not all areas have a census online at this time... Go to http://www.census-online.com/ Click on Links to Online Census Records which will take you to http://www.census-online.com/links/ (Or skip the first link and go there directly!) Select a state that might have a census, and click on the green name of the state. I chose Indiana for this example. Clicking on Indiana took me to: http://www.census-online.com/links/IN/ Now you have the option of either clicking on the county on the map, or of clicking on one of the links to the left. I chose Jennings county for this example and got sent to the following page: http://www.census-online.com/links/IN/Jennings/ Where I have a choice of four possible places to go. Notice that two of those links are for the 1820 census. Some of the links will take you to pay sites, which is why the information about the source site is provided (so you can ignore them, if you wish). 1820 Federal Census Located at USGenWeb Census Project ® [Report Broken Link] 1820 Federal Census <FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANHeads of Households Located at Jennings County, Indiana [Report Broken Link] 1850 Federal Census Located at USGenWeb Census Project ® [Report Broken Link] 1930 Federal Census Located at Jennings Co. INGenWeb [Report Broken Link] Clicking on the first link takes me to the 1820 Jennings county Indiana census website at USgenweb: http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/in/jennings/1820/ And shows me three options on a page that looks like this: Index of /pub/usgenweb/census/in/jennings/1820 Name Last modified Size Description Parent Directory 25-Mar-2004 22:44 - index.txt 25-Mar-2004 22:23 11k pg0076.txt 25-Mar-2004 22:17 64k Apache/1.3.26 Server at www.us-census.org Port 80 The index page is just that, and index of the information in that file. The pg0076 link will take me directly to the census information. Sometimes the parent directories are helpful, and sometimes they are just a waste of time. The parent directory in this case takes me to the next level up, and offers me that chance to go straight to the 1850 census at the same source. There will be broken links, as people drop their accounts or move the accounts to other servers. When you find one, please click on the "report a broken link" button, and the webmaster will investigate, and remove the link or redirect the link if they can locate the new URL. If you consistently get the message "page cannot be displayed", it may be related to your computer settings. I am afraid that I am not qualified to tell you how to reset those, but there are plenty of folks out there who surely can. I see that you have an yahoo address... Try the help pages for how to search the internet using yahoo on your main page to see what they suggest. Hope that helps! Sherri

Roslyn, He is there, listed as James Stuckey of Brookville on page 170 My source was: http://www.rootsweb.com/~infrankl/1820index.html?o_xid=0022846292&o_lid=0022846292 I use census-online quite often, they seem to have most of the census reocrds that are available online there in that one spot. I am copying this to the list as well so everyone can see the URL for the census. Hope this helps, Sherri Online census records http://www.census-online.com/ The link for Indiana is at http://www.census-online.com/links/IN/ Subj: [KENTUCKIANA-L] 1820 census  Date: 4/16/2005 7:50:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time FROM:nonny984@comcast writes: Does anyone have access to a tax list or census for 1820 for Franklin Co. Indiana?  Looking for a James Starkey.   Thanks very much.  Roslyn

Does anyone have access to a tax list or census for 1820 for Franklin Co. Indiana? Looking for a James Starkey. Thanks very much. Roslyn

> > >I am especially interested in John McKenney who settled on Eagle Creek in >what was Gallatin and became Carroll County. He evidently died about 1839 >after he was recorded in a legal document but not enumerated in the 1840 >census. > Hi Jody, Could this be your John McKenny in 1840 in Carroll Co., KY? Have a great time in KY! Regards, Terri McDonald Hauk t.hauk@comcast.net Name: John Mckinny Township: Not Stated County: Carroll State: Kentucky Roll: 107 Page: 145 John McKinny males 20 and under 30 2 females under 5 2 5 and under 10 1 15 and under 20 1 20 and under 30 1

We will be traveling through Kentucky next month and I get to dally long enough to do THREE days of research there! Since I've never been to Kentucky (we live on the west coast), I am very excited about this. My research interests are for the surname McKenney (by all of its spellings!) - a family that settled in and near Jefferson, Shelby, Gallatin, Carroll counties. I have found records of them (microfilmed) in those counties from the 1790s through to the 1840s. I am especially interested in John McKenney who settled on Eagle Creek in what was Gallatin and became Carroll County. He evidently died about 1839 after he was recorded in a legal document but not enumerated in the 1840 census. My question is: how can I best use my valuable time while I am there? Does Carroll County have a genealogy library? Since I have already looked at microfilmed records (census, tax records, deeds, etc), what else might I find of value when researching on-site? Any and all advise would be greatly appreciated! Thank you. Jody McKenney Thomson

Oscar S. TUNCIL born Mar 4, 1889 Grayson Co KY Residence is also Grayson co KY Farmer no Blood Kin to Rosa A. VERTREES Father is Milton TUNCIL White Birth of father Grayson Co. KY Mother is Lida BRUNER White Housewife Birth of Mother Grayson Co KY Is this his first marriage Yes Female Rosa A. VERTREES B Sept 15, 1886 Grayson Co KY Father James VERTREES Color White birthplace Hardin Co KY Farmer place Grayson Co KY Margaret COOK White housewife B Grayson co KY Residence Grayson Co KY is this her first mariage Yes THE STATE OF INDIANA, CLARK COUNTY SCT you are hereby authorized to join together in the horonable state of MARRIAGE Oscar S. TUNCIL, and Rosa A VERTREES This 27th day of March 1907 Geo. W Badger clerk BEIT FURTHER REMEMBERED, That on this 27th dday of March 1907 the following certificate was filed in my office to wit STATE OF INDIANA CALRK SS THIS IS TO CERTIFY , that Oscar S. TUNCIL and Rosa A VERTREES were joined together as Husband and Wife, by virture of a license issued by the clerk of the CLARK CIRCUIT COURT, this 27th day of March 1907 by me Geo. W. Badger clerk Chars. S Fergyson They are in Grayson co in the 1910, and the 1920 Census, I find Milton in the 1870 census, as a 18 yrs old farm labor, he is living with the Hatfield family, and just before them is my COOK Family James and She is listed as E. A, her name was Eliza Ann JACKSON -- Teddy List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, Fulkerson,and Commonwealth http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html

Hoping for advice on finding records of inmates at the KY State Penatentiary, 1900 in Frankfort. The prison no longer exists. I have written the KHS who told me to contact KDLA which I've received no reply. Any help much appreciated. Thanks, Kathy

George Goss was said to have been the first person killed by an automobile in Jeffersonville, IN. Does anyone know when cars were first introduced to the area. George is in an unmarked grave beside his brother, Edward A. Goss and his wife in the Eastern Cemetery. I would like to find George's date of death. Does anyone know if the cemetery has any files or 3 x 5 cards of the interred. Thank you to anyone that can help! Penny SnOOOpy839@aol.com

In Jeffersonville, Clark County, at the corner of Court Ave & Walnut St. was a bakery known as Kralls. The building still stands and I understand that the building is still a bakery and the Kralls neon sign is still on the building. Is this correct? W

Hello, I hope I am sending this to the right person, if not I'm sorry for bothering you! After reading your post that mentioned George Detchen's parents and grandparents. You mentioned that "Sarah Browning) was born in Chicago, Ill., married George Detchen and spent her life in Louisville, Ky." In the 1880 Census the Detchen name was mispelled Ditchen. The grandparents were from Germany and Henry b. OH. Henry DETCHEN married Anna GOSS ca 1860s, don't know where! They lived in Louisville, KY on West 16th St. Henry owned a retail grocery store. They had four or five children, four boys for sure: William, Henry, Louie, and Charles found in the 1880 Census of Louisville, Jefferson Co. KY. Is there any chance these two men are out of the same family? Penny Hobson SnOOOpy839@aol.com

Jacob YOUNG m. 2nd wife CATHERINE? In 1828 his first wife died 1828 in MERCER or SHELBY CO KY. In 1836 he came to JACKSON CO IN with new wife . In 1836 he died and she married JAMES JOHNSON .Dont know what happened to them. Need marriage date KY? IN? early 1830s and maiden name for CATHERINE?

In 1863 a 13 year old boy named John H Phillips joined a MI civil war unit that was camped near Louisville. He probably lived in or around the Louisville area at the time. I am trying to locate the family of this young man. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any help on this would be appreciated. Thanks - Lee

With permission of the list owner, I am posting this announcement. I write a genealogy column for the New Albany Tribune that uses free queries. If you have family that has ties with the following southern Indiana counties and would like to send ONE query to be published - SEND DIRECTLY TO ME (not the list) at bzuveri@bellsouth.net Queries will be used on a first come basis as space permits. Your NAME AND POSTAL ADDRESS MUST BE INCLUDED as not all my readers have e-mail. This is a good way to make contact with those researching your family lines who are not online. I will publish your e-mail address also. Please INCLUDE YOUR E-MAIL IN THE BODY OF YOUR QUERY MESSAGE. Please read the rules below: Queries are free and must have a date to establish a time period and a connection to Clark, Crawford, Floyd, Harrison, Jefferson, Orange, Perry, Scott or Washington Counties in Indiana. Send ONE query per e-mail to Vicky Zuverink at bzuveri@bellsouth.net Other queries in a separate e-mail may be sent but will be used as space permits.

I got this from another List I'm on, but it looks pretty good. You can look at population of the counties, or the cities in the counites for differnet years, and gives other good information. they have a place to veiw the counties, but they don't have any pictures for the counites I' interested in, but if you have some you can send them to the site. you need to click on the link that says cities, and counties to get the inforamtion , there are a lot of links that you maybe able to use also. http://www.searchsystems.net/ -- Teddy List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, Fulkerson,and Commonwealth http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html

Sorry, a little typo there! Try gensmarts.com W

Has anyone heard abouit gensmark? If not check it out at gensmark.com. If so I will appreciate more information and evaluation. Thanks, Walter

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