Seeking information on the following families in Jefferson Co., Ky. George MESSENGER (MESSINGER) b. abt. 1865 m. Minnie ? They appear on the 1900 census with daughters Elsie, Sadie, Annie, & Daisy. One record found at the Allen Co. library in Indiana (which yours truly failed to document) indicated that George died abt. 1900. He was a Louisville fireman according to the census. Census also indicates that both George and Minnie were born in Kentucky. Elsie was my great grandmother. Her full name was Elsie Elnora MESSENGER and she married William Edward BARTON, b. abt. 1888. I do not know what became of her sisters but suspect there might be some rather close cousins locally that I know nothing about and who knows nothing about me. Hopefully one of them is researching *their* great grandmother's line. Sadie was the oldest, b. abt. 1890. Annie, abt. 1892, then Elsie in abt. 1894 followed by Daisy in 1895. Elsie and William's children were: Ann BARTON, Bill BARTON, Charles BARTON, Deloris BARTON, Elsie BARTON, Mary BARTON, Minnie BARTON, Stanley BARTON, Sterling BARTON, and Thomas Edward "Tommy" BARTON. Tommy was my grandfather and my mother was his only child. He and my grandmother divorced when my mother was a toddler and he never remarried. Although there was no hostility between the families, we still are not real familiar with the BARTON side of the family. If there are any BARTON cousins out there, we would like to remedy that situation. William Edward BARTON's father was William Logan BARTON. Any help greatly appreciated, especially being able to link up with one of my mother's first cousins! -Debbie Leu

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Hi everyone! Just a quick not to let you all know about the new gedcom I just posted. It is a very large one donated to us by Mena Mead. Please go to Kentuckiana Genealogy and take a look! (Look under Gedcom Databases) http://www.aye.net/~dee1234/ Also....I have decided to accept larger gedcoms.....Mena's was over 3000 people and I was able to keep the gedcom output to well under 1MB. So send me your gedcoms!! ;-) I am working as fast as possible at posting all the information that was recently donated. If you don't see your donation posted....don't worry! I have received alot of information in the past week and I'll get to it very soon! I'm not overwhelmed, though....so don't be shy about sending your records!!! ;-) One more thing....(long winded this morning, aren't I?) I'm working on the Genealogy of the Leavenworth Family. I have posted the Preface, part of the index and Introduction. I'm working on this only a bit at a time. Because of the age of the book the ocr software I have isn't wanting to read it correctly so I have to fix alot of errors as I go. But I am working on it and have been able to upload a new page every evening! :-) Thanks all!! Dee Listowner for KENTUCKIANA-L Kentuckiana Genealogy http://www.aye.net/~dee1234/

Hi, I take the digest so I don't get the messages right away and then have to lift them out of the digest when I get them. I am answering to the list because this is not a "heavy list" Do you realize that there are two, three or maybe more Keller lines in Harrison county? I do come out of one of them from the Shenandoah and know a couple of people who come from the other ones. If you can go to my FTW Web and look under the Schnepp or Snapp report you will see one of the lines. I also have the one that goes back to the Keller/Windle marriage. You can find that if you look at my InterneTree. If you can't see that then I will send you some of my database. I do collect some Keller because my husband has some PA Keller and some of the other Kellers interact with my other lines. >______________________________X-Message: #3 >Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:23:31 -0600 >From: "kateb@xelnet" <kateb@xelnet.com> >To: <KENTUCKIANA-L@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <B0000541449@ns1.xel.net> >Subject: [KENTUCKIANA-L] KELLER surname >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Are there anyone researching KELLER in Clark,Harrison or Floyd County, >Indiana in 1800-1850. Looking for the parents,brothers and sisters of my gg >grandfather. Please contact me. Thank you. >Kate Keller Bourland ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Clarice Jane Snyder" <snyder@skyenet.net> Web pages: (Music) http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/2059 (Genealogy) http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/n/y/Clarice-J-Snyder/ http://homepage.netspaceonline.com/~deanstr/Harrison/surname.html Surnames: Applegate//Blake//Bogard//Bottles//Brown//Crecelius//Davis//Drake//Engleman// Feller//Greer//Hamman//Hanger//Heishman//Holsclaw//Hottel//Hull//Keller// Litsey//Pate//Powers//Snapp//Windell//VanPelt//Vaughn//Wall//Wiseman// ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

ELIZABETH DUNWOODIE, a widow, married ZEELY WILLIAMS SR. of Bullitt Co, KY in 1822 in Shelby Co. She was the widow of John and reportedly had at least three of his children. The Dunwoodies also seem to have some association with IRELANDS and NEWTONS in the area. I am looking for father and siblings of Zeely, Sr. and information on John Dunwoodie, partiicularly the maiden name of hs wife, Elizabeth. I have considerble information on Zeely's children. Any clues as to where the Williams and Dunwoodies came from would be appreciated. Harry Dell

Hi, Will or should I say can someone please help me! My g-g grandfather SAMUEL WITTER signed a land indenture in Ohio County with his wife Synthanna ____ on the 22nd day of November 1830. It is recorded in Book F, pages 286 & 287. I would like to obtain a copy of those pages and would appreciate if someone would send them to me. I am also trying to find out information about his marriage. They were married between 1825 and 1830 in Ohio County, KY. Can someone please help me? Thank you. Dick Karen Whitlock wrote: > Hello! Researchers > > I 'am looking for any information on these people. > > John Redinhour (spelling may vary ) (b) 1804 (d) 10 Nov 1884 KY burried in > Williamstown,KY Cemetery. s/o John Redinhour & Sarah ?? > (marr) Mary Ann Freguson (burried) Williamstown,Ky Cemetery d/o John > Ferguson & ?? > Children of John Redinhour & Mary Ferguson > > Margaret E. (b) 1839 (m) Hudson ?? > John Newton (b) 4 May 1843 Ky (d) 1 Aug 1911 Grant Co,Ky (m) Annie C. > Hutchinson > Lewis Henry (b) 1845 > James (b) 1846 > Sarah Ann (b) Jun 1847 Ky (d) 10 Aug 1923 Grant Co,Ky (m) John L Ashbrook > 23 Jan 1878 Grant Co,Ky > Francis Marion (b) 5 May 1849 KY (d) 10 Jan 1931 Ellis Co,Ky (m) Mary Jane > Ramey 14 sep 1869 # 2. Elizabeth B. Ramey 18 Apr 1873 Harrison CO,Ky # > 3 > Sarah Jane Ramey 10 Jul 1879 Berry,Ky > Joseph (b) 22 Jul 1852 Ky > George Washington (b) 17 Nov 1855 Grant Co,Ky (d) 4 Jan 1944 Hickman, > Fulton Co,Ky > Annie (b) aft 1858 (m) George Zumwalt 1879 > > > > > ==== KENTUCKIANA Mailing List ==== > HELP! I've lost my census!

Would like to exchange information with anyone researching Sims of Meade County from present back to Hart Co to Culpepper Co. VA. I am particularly interested in JOSEPH SIMS b. 1824 in KY (probably Hart Co.)and died in Meade Co. after 1820. He married Nancy Elizabeth (maiden unknonw) about 1848. He had the following children: Nancy W. 1849; Mary J. 1850; Samuel P. 1857; Jemina F. 1860; James F. 1864; William H. 1867; Albert 1868; Joann 1872; and Permelia 1875. WILLIAM H. SIMMS b. 1867 Hart, died 1850 Meade; married Alice about 1895 and had following children: Charles 1896; Roma Allen 1897; Minnie E. SIMMS 1899; and Florence 1904. My teenage grandsons, whose father is deceased, descends through Roma A. Any help would be appreciated on any of this family would be appreciated. Mary Alice Newsom Dell madell@texas.net

Hello! Researchers I 'am looking for any information on these people. John Redinhour (spelling may vary ) (b) 1804 (d) 10 Nov 1884 KY burried in Williamstown,KY Cemetery. s/o John Redinhour & Sarah ?? (marr) Mary Ann Freguson (burried) Williamstown,Ky Cemetery d/o John Ferguson & ?? Children of John Redinhour & Mary Ferguson Margaret E. (b) 1839 (m) Hudson ?? John Newton (b) 4 May 1843 Ky (d) 1 Aug 1911 Grant Co,Ky (m) Annie C. Hutchinson Lewis Henry (b) 1845 James (b) 1846 Sarah Ann (b) Jun 1847 Ky (d) 10 Aug 1923 Grant Co,Ky (m) John L Ashbrook 23 Jan 1878 Grant Co,Ky Francis Marion (b) 5 May 1849 KY (d) 10 Jan 1931 Ellis Co,Ky (m) Mary Jane Ramey 14 sep 1869 # 2. Elizabeth B. Ramey 18 Apr 1873 Harrison CO,Ky # 3 Sarah Jane Ramey 10 Jul 1879 Berry,Ky Joseph (b) 22 Jul 1852 Ky George Washington (b) 17 Nov 1855 Grant Co,Ky (d) 4 Jan 1944 Hickman, Fulton Co,Ky Annie (b) aft 1858 (m) George Zumwalt 1879

Allan, I am forwarding your comments and mine along to all my lists. Yes, the service is provided by OMS Services in England, a contractor, they have done all the digitizing of the records and programming to make it available online. GRO is not directly envolved. My communication with OMS is as follows: > What are the costs? By the hour or item? If by other than the hour not many will participate. Cost to obtain family rather than ndividual > data would prohibit an itemized cost. As far as myself is concerned, I have looked forward for such an index online. But if not cost effective I will not be able to afford it. > > Thanks, > > Bill Caddell > Granbury, TX USA --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OMS Services wrote: Hi Bill, For access to the index database there is a charge of 6 pounds (approx, USD 10), which allows you to retrieve and display between 30 and 450 names, depending on how many 'hits' you get on a particular name. The basis is actually number of 'pages' of names you get returned in an enquiry, where each 'page' can contain up to 15 names (this is very similar to the way retrieved data is displayed currently at New Register House, Edinburgh, with the GRO(S)' existing system. We tell you how many 'hits' you have got before these are displayed, so you have the opportunity to refine the search - and reduce the number of hits - before display. The charge applies just to the displayed names. When you have used up the 6 pounds, you can accept a further 6 pound payment on you credit card. If you wish to order an extract (eg birth or marriage certificate) for one of the name you have retrieved, there is a charge of 10 pounds (approx. USD 16); the order info. is passed electronically to GRO(S) who send the extract to you by mail. After you have paid the 6 pound fee, you have up to 24 hours to 'spend' it, however many times you log on and off. We thought long and hard about how to charge for access to the database. We ruled out charging by the hour for access to the databse, because this would have allowed 'bulk downloading' of information from the database, and this data could then have been re-sold. For example, someone might decide to download all the entries for a common surname (eg MacDonald or Smith), amounting to many thousands entries. We were concerned to have a system of charging which would be fair for individuals doing research on their own family. We think we have got it right, but we will shall be interested on how the charging scheme will be accepted in practice, after the service has been running for a while. Thankyou for your interest. Regards. Ian Galbraith -- Ian Galbraith Director OMS Services Ltd 87 Moss Lane, Pinner, Middlesex HA5 3AT, UK Tel: +44-(0)181-866 5830 Fax: +44-(0)181-868 1160 email: ian@aecserve.com ====================================================== Allan P. Gray write: I am sure we were all excited to learn that the General Register Office planned to put its indices for deaths, births and marriages online early this year. And when it was recently announced that these would be available April 6th. some of us have been virtually straining at the leash. But even more recently we have been informed, see http://www.open.gov.uk/gros/groshome.htm, that there will be a charge for this service. We knew and expected that there would be a charge for any copies of documents ordered from the GRO but the planned charge for mere index access of six pounds was not previously mentioned (the GRO does not tell us how or how often such a charge will be assessed). The GRO will surely realize a huge increase in document orders and corresponding income as a result of the index availability online - surely enough over time to compensate the office for the institution of this service without charging for an index search alone. Moreover, there is the more general question of great importance to family history researchers, of whether or not the public should have to pay for access to public records. The GRO is the custodian of these documents, not the owner. For the first time the internet provides a voice for users to try and influence bureaucratic decisions. The GRO already has my letter. ALLAN P GRAY in Round Rock, Texas.

Are there anyone researching KELLER in Clark,Harrison or Floyd County, Indiana in 1800-1850. Looking for the parents,brothers and sisters of my gg grandfather. Please contact me. Thank you. Kate Keller Bourland

---------- > From: Karen Whitlock <suezq@homer.libby.org> > To: Boone Co ,Ky <boone-ky@listserv.northwest.com> > Cc: Souder / Sowder <Sowder-L-@rootsweb.com>; Campbell Co, Ky <campbell-ky@listserv.northwest.com>; Grant Co,Ky <grant-ky@listserv.northwest.com>; Harrison Co, Ky <harrison-ky@listserv.northwest.com>; HOMESTEADERS <homesteaders@listserv.northwest.com>; Kenton Co,Ky <kenton-ky@listserv.northwest.com>; KENTUCKIANA <KENTUCKIANA-L-@rootsweb.com>; Pendleton Co,Ky <pendleton-ky@listserv.northwest.com>; QUAKER-ROOTS <QUAKER-ROOTS@rootsweb.com>; RIDENOUR-L <RIDENOUR-L-@rootsweb.com>; ROLL-CALL <ROLL-CALL-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: SURNAME LIST > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:25 AM > > Hello ! Researchers I' am looking for the following people. I need your > help. > > SOUDER / SOWDER Lewis (b) Jan 1863 Ky (m) in KY > > RIEDINOW Mary Elizabeth ( Betty) (b) Dec 1866 (d) Dec 1923 d/o > > John Newton Riedinow (spelling may vary) & Annie C. Hutchinson > > Mary RIEDINOW may have been married to Louis Haley after Lewis Souder / > Sowder died. > > Children of Lewis & Mary Souder / Sowder > > Viola (b) 15 Jun 1884 Pendleton Co,Ky (d) 4 Aug 1930 Indenpendence,Kenton > Co,Ky > (m) James Daniel NORTH (b) 28 Feb 1881 Harrison CO,Ky (d) 23 Sep 1961 > Indenpendence, Kenton Co,Ky > > Joseph Newton (b) Nov 1885 Pendleton Co,? Ky (d) 1943 (m) Mattie > Morrison > > Nathauel (b) Jul 1887 Pendleton Co,?Ky > > Mellisa (b) Feb 1890 Pendleton Co,?KY > > Myrtle (b) Apr 1892 Pendleton Co,? Ky > > Cora (b) Nov 1894 Pendleton Co,? Ky > > Jennetta (b) Jun 1898 Pendleton Co,? Ky > > William B. (b) Dec 1899 Pendleton Co,? Ky > > I would love to find out more on this family. Can You help. Thank You so > much > > Karen Whitlock > suezq@libby.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********** > To subscribe or unsubscribe send the message to: > majordomo@listserv.northwest.com > ********** > To see a list of the lists that are available go to > http://listserv.northwest.com/~haight/listpage.htm > ********************* > The archives for all the lists are at a link on my web > page http://listserv.northwest.com/~haight > or ftp to ftp://listserv.northwest.com/pub/archive >

Does anyone in the Louisville area have information about a Board of Children's Guardians???? Trying to find out information about this group that was active early 1900's. Trying to find out about an adoption that occurred on September 4, 1901. No birth records available on this person, he was deceased in 1950. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks, Glenn.

Anyone researching these individuals, please contact me. Orange, Crawford & Perry County, IN Nancy Jane BELCHER John E. SMITH Orange & Harrison County, IN Jesse HENSON Miles DILLINGER Orange & Floyd County, IN Nancy Ann HICKMAN Lawrence & Orange County, IN Charles GRAY Crawford and Perry County, IN Nathaniel SEALS Sarah M. HARBIN Orange County, IN Wesley JOHNSON Samuel H. EARLY Becky RFrier1488@aol.com

Mr. Payne, I just today discovered one of my Robinsons living in a Payne household on the 1850 Hardin County census. This is much later than the James and Elizabeth you're looking for, so I looked up the Paynes in a book I have at home on Hardin County. There is a long section on Colonel James B. Payne, b. 1834 in Fayette Co., came to Hardin Co. in the late 1840's, and on his family; also a section on the Colonel James B. Payne mansion in Elizabethtown; then a section on Professor John N. Payne, b. 1832 in Mercer County, principal of the Elizabethtown public school in Hardin County, but whose father Robert came from Virginia to Lexington, KY when he was a boy. Let me know if this is of much interest to you. Linda K.

I visited the Louisville library today to finish copying my Robinsons from the 1850 Hardin County census, and found Durbins as well. Here you go, hope this helps: Dwelling 174: Hannah Durbin, age 64, female, born in KY, can read & write Nancy Durbin, age 40, female, born in KY, can read & write John Durbin, age 31, male, born in KY, can read & write Dwelling 33: (Appears to be Williams household, but there's a Durbin in it): Nathaniel Durbin, age 21, male, born in New York Dwelling 95: John C. Durbin, age 46, male, doctor and farmer, $1,000 real estate, born in KY Rebecca Durbin, age 41, female, born in KY J. Eliza, age 23, female, born in KY, attended school within the year Mary A. Durbin, age 20, female, born in KY, attended school within the year Christopher Durbin, age 18, male, born in KY, attended school within the year Joseph Durbin, age 16, male, born in KY, attended school within the year Hannah Durbin, age 14, female, born in KY, attended school within the year George Durbin, age 12, male, born in KY, attended school within the year Elizabeth Durbin, age 9, female, born in KY, attended school within the year Sarah Durbin, age 9, female, born in KY, attended school within the year Rebecca Durbin, age 6, female, born in KY, attended school within the year Malinda Durbin, age 2, female, born in KY No dwelling #: Margaret Durbin*, age 16, female, born in KY *Margaret Durbin is listed with a group of girls about her age, and it appears they are novices in a convent, as the women listed just above them are all shown to be nuns. Hope this helps. Didn't have time to check on Brownings, but if I get the chance I will. Linda K.

Thought I would repost my surnames being researched, in hopes of finding another on same line. BUSH, Christopher -- Hardin Co., KY RADLEY, Ichabod -- Hardin Co., KY SWANK, Susannah -- Hardin Co., KY, and Harrison Co., IN ROLL, John -- Hardin Co., KY and Harrison Co., IN SCOTT, William -- KY, and Washington Co., IN JAMISON, Agnes -- KY, and Washington Co., IN SEARS, John -- KY SEARS, Isaac -- KY BRIDGES, Jonathan -- KY, and Martin Co., IN PATAN/PATON, Nancy -- KY, and Martin Co., IN Any help is appreciated. Donna Sears Chernick donna.chernick@internetMCI.com

At 05:18 PM 3/16/98 EST, BJGFL@aol.com wrote: >I am working on the following surnames: > >Breckinridge-Meade-Hardin County, Kentucky >SMITH >JENKINS >SHACKLETT >WALKER >HARDIN >BALL >PECKINPAUGH >PATE >CRAWFORD >WITHERS There are at least a couple of us on the list who are SHACKLETT descendants. My own research has been concentrated in the Meade County area, and my database includes all the names listed above with the exception of PECKINPAUGH and CRAWFORD (I actually have CRAWFORD, but not from the early Kentuckiana area). Of course, my PAYNE ancestors, the earliest being James PAYNE who m. Elizabeth _________, present in Hardin (pre-Meade) Co., KY by about 1807 (on tax lists there), were found in Meade County. I recently formed a SHACKLETT-L surname mailing list, which is still rather small (18 of us presently). Please join us if you are a SHACKLETT researcher! Almost all SHACKLETTs in America are related by virtue of their common immigrant ancestor, Benjamin SHACKLETT (1710 in France - 1784 in PA) who m. Sarah BLANCETTE in 1733. His father was John SHACKLET/SHACKALIT/SHAKERLY (1678 in France - 1717/18 in Charles Co., MD) who m. Mary _____. John's surname evolved from his French name, thought by many researchers over the years to be Jenade JACQUELOT. Some of us, including yours truly, now believe his name to have been Jean De JACQUELOT, this having resulted from recent contacts with members of the JACQUELOT family in France, two of whom are subscribers to SHACKLETT-L. The SHACKLETTs, those descending from John (son of Benjamin mentioned above) & his wife Barbara QUICK, were prolific pioneers in Hardin/Meade Co., KY. If anyone can help with James & Elizabeth PAYNE mentioned above, please contact me! One possibility, which I will mention here is that they COULD be the James PAYNE and Elizabeth HUDSON who m. 15 Jun 1785 in Dorchester Co., MD. Why? Because a great-granddaughter was named Blanche Hudson PAYNE, with no known reason for the middle name, by parents who followed a pattern of naming their children after ancestors. Also, there was a John HUDSON found in the 1810 census of Hardin Co., KY close (adjacent, I believe) to the family of James PAYNE. James & Elizabeth were known to have had the following children: Lewis, Thomas, Richard (my ancestor), Elizabeth and Sabrina (Sarah). On 13 Jul 1818, James PAYN (sic) was named as one of the account holders in the settlement of the estate of William WITHERS. James' son Lewis PAYNE m. (I) Summerville WITHERS, dau. of Elizabeth WITHERS, on 1 Feb 1819 in Meade Co. I have wondered if Elizabeth was perhaps the wife of William, but have no proof of same. I should mention that I also manage the PAYNE-L mailing list, a comparatively large list with 390 subscribers at present. PAYNE researchers are always welcomed. BJGFL, I would like to exchange information with you. I know many AOLers and some others, too, make a practice of using just their screen name, but may I encourage all to share their real name when corresponding on genealogy lists? :)) It's always nice to know the name of the person to whom we are writing! Thanks in advance to any help from any direction! Danny Payne, sdcaller@icon.net ************************************************************************ Subscribe to the SHACKLETT-L mail list: msg to SHACKLETT-L-request@rootsweb.com In body of msg type "subscribe" (without quotes, signature OFF) ************************************************************************ Researching PAYNE (VA, KY); THOMAS (AR, TX); SHACKLETT, SHACKLETTE, JACQUELOT (PA,KY); STRIEPE (Anywhere)

Hi fellow researchers. Kentucky Walker, Clark,Polley, Smith, Hubbs, Roby,Gardiner,Gentry, Birkhead, McMahan, Featherkile,Watson, counties are; Jefferson, Bullitt, Hardin, Spencer, Nelson. also surnames of Maynard and Burnett in Jefferson co.Ky Daviess co.Ky Walker, Polley, Melton, Knott, Henry, Webster, Coats Indiana Walker,May,Lang,Schell,(Shell), Farmer, Terry, Williard and VanBuskirk, Schollars, Lang, Irwin, Elliott, Morton counties in Ind are ; Floyd, Clark, Lawerance, Monroe and Greene. Hope to find some new cousins !!! Glad to share . Joan in Tn

Mary Ann, youngest child of John & Christiana Peckinpaugh, b. 5/29/1812, Ft. Hardin, BRECKINRIDGE Co., KY, m.2) 9/17/1837, Crawford Co., IN, Samuel WALKER, son of Robert & Delilah Walker. Mary Ann & Samuel's second child, Mahulda Ellen Walker (Nellie), b.9/3/1868, d. 9/1/1942, m. John J. HARDIN. Four children: 1. John Norman Hardin 2. Benj Hobson Hardin 3. Imogene Hardin Starkey 4. Pauline Hardin, m. Lawrence Foster This Peckinpaugh, Walker and Hardin connection is found on p. 472-473, of our Pickenpaugh Book, 1984 edition. Dave Pickenpaugh pickenpa@cio.net Pickenpaugh Family page http://www.angelfire.com/wa/pickenpaugh/ would like to hear from you.

I have information on some connections of the Peckinpaugh and Walker Lines