Hi James Looking at the Hothfield PRs it seems that Thomas Hall was buried Hothfield 25 Nov 1854 aged 65 Caroline was buried 3 Apr 1833 aged 36 (maybe in childbirth?) The youngest child William chr 11 Apr 1832 was bur 20 Aug 1832. Son Robert William (grazier, bach otp)(s of Thomas, grazier) m Mary Ann GURR (sp, otp)(dau of Richard lab) on 10 Nov 1860 in Hothfield. Witnesses were George Gurr and Emily Jane Read. In 1841 Thomas was in Hothfield with wife? Lucy and children George, Robert and Thomas. Thomas is shown as a Registrar. I had a quick look for the other children but with a name like Hall not easy. In 1851 Thomas is alone with Lucy (b 1801 Rastrick, Yorks) and shown as a Relieving Office & Registrar. The only child I have had time to find in 1851 is James, who is with wife Mary (b 1826 Kensington) in Kensington, Middx. He is shown as an accountant. You may already have this info but if not gives you something to go on with Regards Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Hall Sent: 23 May 2012 23:55 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] ELIZA HALL Hi Chris Thank you for that information. Thomas Hall (born Hothfield, Kent in 1789) was my g-g grandfather. In 1820 he married Caroline Shipwash (born in Kent in 1797) and they had six children. Their second child was James Shipwash Hall (born Kent 1822) -- my g-grandfather. James Shipwash emigrated to Australia, and in 1867 married Rosetta Richmond (born in Tasmania, Australia in 1838); they had eight children, the second eldest being James Shipwash Richmond Hall, (born 1869 in Victoria, Australia), my grandfather. In 1911, my grandfather married Helena Thorne (born in Australia in 1889); they had five children, the second eldest being James Shipwash Richmond Hall, my father. I'm the third James Shipwash Richmond in the line.. As I said in my posting, I have not been able to trace any of Thomas Hall's ancestors and would appreciate any assistance, suggestions, etc you may be able to offer. (I have been able to trace Thomas Hall's wife, Caroline Shipwash back to the seventeenth century). Thank you -- enjoy your holiday and I look forward to hearing from you after May 30. Cheers ... JAMES On 23/05/2012, at 5:23 PM, Gene Genie wrote: > Hi James > > My Eliza was the daughter of David Hall born about 1841 in West Malling > and Susannah Plane/Plain born 1844 in East Peckham Kent > > I have a lot of info on my Couchman line linked to the above but not much info on Hall. However if you can send me more details about your line I can check my records for any links. > > About to go on holiday today and will have limited email access but back on 30th May. > > Look forward to hearing from you again. > > Regards > > > Chris Longdon > (Top Brass Antiques) > Sent from my iPod > > On 23 May 2012, at 01:59, James Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> HI >> >> I am interested in knowing if Eliza Hall born in 1884 is any relation to Thomas Hall born in Hothfield, Kent in 1789. >> >> I would also appreciate anything anyone might have on the ancestry of the said Thomas Hall -- I've not been able to find anything >> >> regarding his parents, g-parents, gg-parents, etc. I am a descendant. >> >> Much thanks in advance ... JAMES R HALL >> >> >> >> On 23/05/2012, at 2:14 AM, Gene Genie wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> Could sks with access to the 1911 census on Ancestry please let me have the details of Eliza Hall born 1884 and shown as a servant residing in Kent. >>> >>> She has only just been indexed on the 1911 ( for reasons not known!) and has eluded me since the 1911 was published. >>> >>> Many thanks in advance >>> >>> Chris Longdon ( great nephew) >>> >>> Sent from my iPod >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sue Thank you very much for that information. I had some of it, but by no means all. Thomas did indeed have a second wife, Lucy who I thought was born in Kent in 1901 -- thanks for the correction. I don't know Lucy's maiden name, nor do I know whether she and Thomas had any children together. As far as I know, Thomas and first wife, Caroline, had six children. You refer to child James in 1851 being with his wife Mary in Kensington, Middlesex. This was the first wife of James (my g-grandfather). She was Mary Holmes; they married in 1850; she came to Australia with him and died in Melbourne, Victoria in 1861. I don't know the exact date of their coming to Australia -- any information? Nor do I know if they had any children. Interestingly, James is shown in 1851 as an accountant. I had an understanding he arrived in Australia as a "banker", but have no real details. In Australia in 1865 he married a Rosalie Allison (about whom I have absolutely no details), and then Rosetta Richmond (my g-grandmother) in 1867 -- they had eight children. Cheers ... JAMES On 24/05/2012, at 6:10 PM, Sue Slater wrote: > Hi James > > Looking at the Hothfield PRs it seems that Thomas Hall was buried Hothfield > 25 Nov 1854 aged 65 > Caroline was buried 3 Apr 1833 aged 36 (maybe in childbirth?) > > The youngest child William chr 11 Apr 1832 was bur 20 Aug 1832. > > Son Robert William (grazier, bach otp)(s of Thomas, grazier) m Mary Ann > GURR (sp, otp)(dau of Richard lab) on 10 Nov 1860 in Hothfield. Witnesses > were George Gurr and Emily Jane Read. > > In 1841 Thomas was in Hothfield with wife? Lucy and children George, Robert > and Thomas. Thomas is shown as a Registrar. I had a quick look for the > other children but with a name like Hall not easy. > > In 1851 Thomas is alone with Lucy (b 1801 Rastrick, Yorks) and shown as a > Relieving Office & Registrar. > > The only child I have had time to find in 1851 is James, who is with wife > Mary (b 1826 Kensington) in Kensington, Middx. He is shown as an > accountant. > > You may already have this info but if not gives you something to go on with > > Regards > > Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of James Hall > Sent: 23 May 2012 23:55 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] ELIZA HALL > > > > Hi Chris > > Thank you for that information. > > Thomas Hall (born Hothfield, Kent in 1789) was my g-g grandfather. In 1820 > he married Caroline Shipwash (born in Kent in 1797) and they had six > children. > > Their second child was James Shipwash Hall (born Kent 1822) -- my > g-grandfather. > > James Shipwash emigrated to Australia, and in 1867 married Rosetta Richmond > (born in Tasmania, Australia in 1838); they had eight children, the second > eldest being James Shipwash Richmond Hall, (born 1869 in Victoria, > Australia), my grandfather. > > In 1911, my grandfather married Helena Thorne (born in Australia in 1889); > they had five children, the second eldest being James Shipwash Richmond > Hall, my father. > > I'm the third James Shipwash Richmond in the line.. > > As I said in my posting, I have not been able to trace any of Thomas Hall's > ancestors and would appreciate any assistance, suggestions, etc you may be > able to offer. (I have been able to trace Thomas Hall's wife, Caroline > Shipwash back to the seventeenth century). > > Thank you -- enjoy your holiday and I look forward to hearing from you after > May 30. > > Cheers ... JAMES > > On 23/05/2012, at 5:23 PM, Gene Genie wrote: > >> Hi James >> >> My Eliza was the daughter of David Hall born about 1841 in West Malling >> and Susannah Plane/Plain born 1844 in East Peckham Kent >> >> I have a lot of info on my Couchman line linked to the above but not much > info on Hall. However if you can send me more details about your line I can > check my records for any links. >> >> About to go on holiday today and will have limited email access but back > on 30th May. >> >> Look forward to hearing from you again. >> >> Regards >> >> >> Chris Longdon >> (Top Brass Antiques) >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On 23 May 2012, at 01:59, James Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> HI >>> >>> I am interested in knowing if Eliza Hall born in 1884 is any relation to > Thomas Hall born in Hothfield, Kent in 1789. >>> >>> I would also appreciate anything anyone might have on the ancestry of the > said Thomas Hall -- I've not been able to find anything >>> >>> regarding his parents, g-parents, gg-parents, etc. I am a descendant. >>> >>> Much thanks in advance ... JAMES R HALL >>> >>> >>> >>> On 23/05/2012, at 2:14 AM, Gene Genie wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> Could sks with access to the 1911 census on Ancestry please let me have > the details of Eliza Hall born 1884 and shown as a servant residing in Kent. > >>>> >>>> She has only just been indexed on the 1911 ( for reasons not known!) and > has eluded me since the 1911 was published. >>>> >>>> Many thanks in advance >>>> >>>> Chris Longdon ( great nephew) >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPod >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message