Hi, Have you searched 1881 Census at Family Search Org Online https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1321821 At 04:25 PM 09/08/2013, you wrote: >Dear Listers > >Can anyone help me find out more about Elizabeth Newman who was the second >wife of my great grandfather John Glanville Bogg married at St. Nicholas >Church, Plumstead, Kent on 2nd December 1882. Her father is stated as >Francis Newman Watchmaker and one of the witnesses is Anne Newman. Presume >that is her sister or maybe her mother. > >Elizabeth died only three years later as Elizabeth Bogg aged just 32 in >Plumstead in 1885 which makes her born in 1853 but I can't find her on the >censuses before her marriage. I don't know where she was born! Some people >have put her on their tree as being born in Dover but the censuses they >show say her father was Thomas! > >John's first wife Mary McCarthy died of T.B. Elizabeth too died of T.B. I >suspect that Elizabeth was working as a housekeeper for the family whilst >Mary was dying. Can anyone find her on the 1881 census living near John >Bogg? He was living at 24 Richmond Street, Plumstead East and is listed as >Arsenal Labourer aged 36 widower living with his three sons John, Daniel >and Edmund. > >Poor John lost his first wife and three of his children from his first >marriage, then his second wife and their son in 1885. Then his third wife >(my great grandmother) did survive him and so did his six children from his >third marriage but the poor man drowned himself by jumping into the river >Thames from the Free Woolwich Ferry because he was in terrible pain from >bowel cancer! What a difficult life! >-- >--- >Regards > >Frances Lee > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Stella Thank you so much for your help with my Newman tree! Brilliant! I looked on this site and found her not only on the 1881 census with her family but also the 1871 and 1861! Now why didn't this come up on Ancestry?? Another brick wall knocked down! Much appreciated! Best wishes Frances Lee On 10 August 2013 01:39, Stella Stanger <sstanger@sfu.ca> wrote: > > Hi, Have you searched 1881 Census at Family Search Org Online > https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1321821 > > > > > At 04:25 PM 09/08/2013, you wrote: > >Dear Listers > > > >Can anyone help me find out more about Elizabeth Newman who was the second > >wife of my great grandfather John Glanville Bogg married at St. Nicholas > >Church, Plumstead, Kent on 2nd December 1882. Her father is stated as > >Francis Newman Watchmaker and one of the witnesses is Anne Newman. Presume > >that is her sister or maybe her mother. > > > >Elizabeth died only three years later as Elizabeth Bogg aged just 32 in > >Plumstead in 1885 which makes her born in 1853 but I can't find her on the > >censuses before her marriage. I don't know where she was born! Some > people > >have put her on their tree as being born in Dover but the censuses they > >show say her father was Thomas! > > > >John's first wife Mary McCarthy died of T.B. Elizabeth too died of T.B. I > >suspect that Elizabeth was working as a housekeeper for the family whilst > >Mary was dying. Can anyone find her on the 1881 census living near John > >Bogg? He was living at 24 Richmond Street, Plumstead East and is listed as > >Arsenal Labourer aged 36 widower living with his three sons John, Daniel > >and Edmund. > > > >Poor John lost his first wife and three of his children from his first > >marriage, then his second wife and their son in 1885. Then his third wife > >(my great grandmother) did survive him and so did his six children from > his > >third marriage but the poor man drowned himself by jumping into the river > >Thames from the Free Woolwich Ferry because he was in terrible pain from > >bowel cancer! What a difficult life! > >-- > >--- > >Regards > > > >Frances Lee > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- --- Regards Frances Lee