Phyllis, its dustydocs.com, I use it because I find that the main LDS site plays silly with me. Yet if I go through the dusty site I get no trouble. According to the LDS help email that I received, they are aware that the site plays up and are trying to sort it out. Tricia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis" <p.bartlett8@iinet.net.au> To: <kent-eng@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] LDS website Brian I tried the website you give www.Dusty without success, surely there must be more after "Dusty". Yes! with the help of listers, I have managed to work the LDS site. I thank all the wonderful people who took their time to help me.