Hello Caroline, Would the marriage certificate be likely to show any parentage of Eleanor? Regards Estelle (sweltering in rural Australia where it was 43 deg C today) > From: caroline.bradford@btinternet.com > Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 09:20:44 +0000 > To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Looking for SMITH & NOEL marriage (Eleanor & Napoleon) pls > > Thanks, Peter, whoops! > > It seems highly likely this was not a CofE marriage, though it could have been at St Giles, whose registers are not complete in the Ancestry/LMA collection. Either way, your best bet would be to get the marriage certificate from the GRO. > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 31 Dec 2013, at 08:49, "Peter" <peterj.martin@lineone.net> wrote: > > > > I think Caroline had a small slip of the finger - it should be 1876 not > > 1976. > > > > Peter > > > > Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Looking for SMITH & NOEL marriage (Eleanor & > > Napoleon) pls > > > > Q2 1976, Holborn, Vol 1b Page 1113. > > > > Caroline > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > >> On 31 Dec 2013, at 07:58, Estelle Daniels <stelly__57@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hello, > >> I am looking for some help to find the marriage of Eleanor SMITH (mother > > Eliza Amelia ABSOLON & Thomas W SMITH). > >> > >> She apparently married Napoleon NOEL who was born in Paris, France, and > > was in the Admiralty. I can find the death and probate of both in 1932, as > > they died only months apart - she on 17 October 1931 and he in March 1932. > > Eleanor was born in Clerkenwell on 19 Nov 1858 and baptised in the City Road > > Congregational Chapel on 10 April 1859. She apparently died in Kent, so I > > thought I would ask this list to help point me in the right direction, if at > > all possible. Eleanor was my grandfather's cousin. > >> > >> All the best for the coming year & thank you in advance for any help. > >> Estelle > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Estelle Yes. The marriage certificate should give her father's name and occupation. I say "should" because occasionally one just sees "deceased" under the father's details if he was dead at the time of the marriage (or if it was convenient to say he was), although, in theory, these details should be there, regardless of whether he was dead or alive. If you are going to buy the certificate, make sure you do so direct from the GRO (www.gro.gov.uk). The statutory fee is £9.25 including worldwide postage. Third parties will charge you well over the odds and take longer to get the certificate to you. Best wishes from a windy and wet Oxford Caroline Sent from my iPad > On 31 Dec 2013, at 12:04, Estelle Daniels <stelly__57@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Caroline, > Would the marriage certificate be likely to show any parentage of Eleanor? > Regards Estelle > (sweltering in rural Australia where it was 43 deg C today) > >> From: caroline.bradford@btinternet.com >> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 09:20:44 +0000 >> To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Looking for SMITH & NOEL marriage (Eleanor & Napoleon) pls >> >> Thanks, Peter, whoops! >> >> It seems highly likely this was not a CofE marriage, though it could have been at St Giles, whose registers are not complete in the Ancestry/LMA collection. Either way, your best bet would be to get the marriage certificate from the GRO. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 31 Dec 2013, at 08:49, "Peter" <peterj.martin@lineone.net> wrote: >>> >>> I think Caroline had a small slip of the finger - it should be 1876 not >>> 1976. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Looking for SMITH & NOEL marriage (Eleanor & >>> Napoleon) pls >>> >>> Q2 1976, Holborn, Vol 1b Page 1113. >>> >>> Caroline >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On 31 Dec 2013, at 07:58, Estelle Daniels <stelly__57@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> I am looking for some help to find the marriage of Eleanor SMITH (mother >>> Eliza Amelia ABSOLON & Thomas W SMITH). >>>> >>>> She apparently married Napoleon NOEL who was born in Paris, France, and >>> was in the Admiralty. I can find the death and probate of both in 1932, as >>> they died only months apart - she on 17 October 1931 and he in March 1932. >>> Eleanor was born in Clerkenwell on 19 Nov 1858 and baptised in the City Road >>> Congregational Chapel on 10 April 1859. She apparently died in Kent, so I >>> thought I would ask this list to help point me in the right direction, if at >>> all possible. Eleanor was my grandfather's cousin. >>>> >>>> All the best for the coming year & thank you in advance for any help. >>>> Estelle >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message