Hi All, I am seriously frustrated with my Grandfathers, brothers brood. George HELYER (various spellings of course) HILLIER, Hellier etc married Mary Ann MORLEY 1863 St Pauls Deptford They had four children that I have found. 1. George William baptised 1865 2. Emily Sarah born circa 1866 Greenwich & married Robert Samuel HOGG in 1889 Deptford St Nicholas 3. Harry (probably Henry) circa 1869 married Susannah EDMEADES 1893 Plumstead Susannah died 1902 then married Emma NASH 1903 Essex Reg District 4. Thomas circa 1872 Greenwich RD married Emma Eliza WHITE Thomas and Harry were both Hairdressers. 1911 finds Thomas in Plumstead 1911 finds Harry in Northfleet 1891 finds Emily in Plumstead George William remains elusive. Any takers PLEASE Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia Success is the ability to go from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm. Winston Churchill