Sylvia The one thing that has helped me be sure of a death is to see who was present at the death..This is usually a member of the family or the next door neighbour..This helped me when I thought a daughter of a family had died but she was present at her mothers death so I realised that she was alive and well and solved 2 problems with the one cert.. Go on live dangerously and order the 3 cert.. Mary Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "sylvia thomas" <boxstaffy@yahoo.com.au> To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:14 AM Subject: [KENT-ENG] HOLNESS death. Hi Everyone, This may sound stupid, but how do you know when you have the right death? This family is the bane of my life and may or may not be mine. The family 1851 is at Wickhambreaux consisting of Thomas HOLNESS father, mother Ann, sons Thomas, William, Charles and daughter Sophia. Thomas snr birthplace is said to be Whitchurch, Hants. Ann, Canterbury. This had me stumped fo some time as I could find neither 1861. In the end I decided the birthplaces were swapped. Ann appears 1861 birthplace, Hants.says she is a widow. Thomas along with the rest of the family vaporise. No show for Ann 1871, 1881 she is at Bridge as a Nurse pauper, born, Hants. Ann died at Bridge Union Workhouse.1885 age 77 widow of Thomas HOLNESS . So far this looks promising. There are 4 Thomas Holness deaths between 1851 and 1861. One of them a 3 week old, 1854. That leaves 3. An email way back on the Holness list (not to me) said that the Thomas Holness death 1867 was the husband of Ann. and they were both buried at Bridge. (This person is not on the list now) So, I ordered this cert., it says Thomas Holness age 77 farm labourer, died Bridge Union Workhouse. the age fits with 1851 census. I'm still not totally convinced that this is the right one. So, other than ordering the other three, bearing in mind that this family do not seem to know where they were born, if they were born or where they were at any time other than the 1851 census. I still have no proof that they are mine, but keep plugging along just in case something comes up. I realise the obvious is to just order ther othere three certs., but are thy going to tell me any more than the 1867 one. Unlike a female death cert that tells you if she was a widdow and who her husband was. Any ideas anyone? Regards Sylvia in Aus. __________________________________________________________________________________ See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now: http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Mary, Yes I thought about the person who was present at death.  Unfortunately in this case it was a George Folwell of the Union Workhouse, He signed with a cross. So at this stage no help there. I will have to save up and bite the bullet. With thanks,  Sylvia. ________________________________ Sylvia  The one thing that has helped me be sure of a death is to see who was present at the death..This is usually a member of the family or the next door neighbour..This helped me when I thought a daughter of a family had died but she was present at her mothers death so I realised that she was alive and well and solved 2 problems with the one cert.. Go on live dangerously and order the 3 cert.. Mary Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "sylvia thomas" <boxstaffy@yahoo.com.au> To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:14 AM Subject: [KENT-ENG] HOLNESS death.     __________________________________________________________________________________ See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now: http://au.movies..yahoo.com/session-times/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________________________________ See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now: http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/