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    1. Re: [KENT-ENG] Cholera Deaths 1854
    2. In a message dated 2/8/2010 6:37:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, sstanger@sfu.ca writes: Hi, Please - ONLY put his cause of death - as it is shown on his Death Certificate - don't make guesses. If the cause was Cholera - that would have been stated. Purpura/Haemorrhage - is caused by Many reasons - don't change history with a guess. Whenever doing any research - No guesses - they could be wrong - only information that is stated on documents. Cheers, Stella At 11:13 PM 07/02/2010, SBS Engineers Genealogy wrote: >Hi List > >I have a great-great grandfather Thomas Briggs (a blacksmith) who died >9th August 1854 in Blue Town (Sheerness). His death certificate says >cause of death 'purpura/haemorrhage'....after doing a lot of reading on >'purpura' and it's different causes - I think I will put his >haemorrhaging down to Cholera????? He was only 24yrs old and had been >married only 3 months - to the day (8th May 1854). He was buried 12th >August but don't know where. > >KInd regards >Ann Spiro >Perth, Western Australia >research@sbse.net.au >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~blacksmiths/ >I have the surname BASKETT registered with GOONS >http://www.one-name.org/ >Rootsweb surname list for NUTTY. > >--------------------------------------- >Recent postings on the Kent list about hospital ships being used during >Cholera epidemics either to supplement or replace use of workhouses >during >epidemics trigger several questions. >Many Thanks Dick Fowler > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message I concur....A blacksmith in those days could have been breathing substantial amounts of toxic funes, especially from coal fires. Steade

    02/08/2010 03:54:52
    1. Re: [KENT-ENG] Cholera Deaths 1854
    2. Jackson Day
    3. Please let me put in a vote for document + comment, not document alone. Documents are often created in a hurry by people who don't know what is going on. My father's death certificate shows that he died of Alzheimer's disease. No one ever diagnosed him with that while he was alive, and the family is angry at the doctor who didn't know him and just put that down because it was easy. He was almost 95, and it's too bad no-one is willing to simply diagnose "old age". So the document is the document, but the record would be incomplete without adding the conclusions of those who knew him! And if anyone responds, "well, that was in New Jersey, things like that don't happen in England or Australia," I'd have to just say, "how wonderful, my experience on this is restricted to New Jersey! Jackson H. Day, M. Div, MPH 410-303-8213 Executive Director International Conference of War Veteran Ministers http://www.warveteranministers.org Consultant, Addictions and Health Care Program United Methodist General Board of Church and Society http://www.umc-gbcs.org   -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of SteadeC@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:55 PM To: sstanger@sfu.ca; kent-eng@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Cholera Deaths 1854 In a message dated 2/8/2010 6:37:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, sstanger@sfu.ca writes: Hi, Please - ONLY put his cause of death - as it is shown on his Death Certificate - don't make guesses. If the cause was Cholera - that would have been stated. Purpura/Haemorrhage - is caused by Many reasons - don't change history with a guess. Whenever doing any research - No guesses - they could be wrong - only information that is stated on documents. Cheers, Stella At 11:13 PM 07/02/2010, SBS Engineers Genealogy wrote: >Hi List > >I have a great-great grandfather Thomas Briggs (a blacksmith) who died >9th August 1854 in Blue Town (Sheerness). His death certificate says >cause of death 'purpura/haemorrhage'....after doing a lot of reading on >'purpura' and it's different causes - I think I will put his >haemorrhaging down to Cholera????? He was only 24yrs old and had been >married only 3 months - to the day (8th May 1854). He was buried 12th >August but don't know where. > >KInd regards >Ann Spiro >Perth, Western Australia >research@sbse.net.au >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~blacksmiths/ >I have the surname BASKETT registered with GOONS >http://www.one-name.org/ >Rootsweb surname list for NUTTY. > >--------------------------------------- >Recent postings on the Kent list about hospital ships being used during >Cholera epidemics either to supplement or replace use of workhouses >during >epidemics trigger several questions. >Many Thanks Dick Fowler > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message I concur....A blacksmith in those days could have been breathing substantial amounts of toxic funes, especially from coal fires. Steade ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/09/2010 05:48:08
    1. Re: [KENT-ENG] Cholera Deaths 1854
    2. Charani
    3. Jackson Day wrote: > Please let me put in a vote for document + comment, not document alone. > Documents are often created in a hurry by people who don't know what is > going on. My father's death certificate shows that he died of Alzheimer's > disease. No one ever diagnosed him with that while he was alive, and the > family is angry at the doctor who didn't know him and just put that down > because it was easy. He was almost 95, and it's too bad no-one is willing > to simply diagnose "old age". So the document is the document, but the > record would be incomplete without adding the conclusions of those who knew > him! One of the key points here is that you knew the deceased because he was your father. The same can't be said of someone who died 150 years ago. I think if it was my father, I'd have challenged the cause of death if I was sure it was wrong. I don't think, in England, "old age" is a valid cause of death, but I sit to be corrected on that. It has been given as a CoD on 19th century death certs though. I found out my disabled son had a diagnosis I knew nothing about and was quite cross about it. However, his paediatrician explained the reasoning behind it. > And if anyone responds, "well, that was in New Jersey, things like that > don't happen in England or Australia," I'd have to just say, "how > wonderful, my experience on this is restricted to New Jersey! It certainly can happen in England. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

    02/09/2010 11:22:57