Linda, I think the first step is order a copy of the birth certificate for John junior (1839/40). Unfortunately FreeBMD lists two (both 1839) for the Maidstone District (this covers Marden): Sep 1839 Lamkin John Vol 5 Page 272 Dec 1839 Lamkin John Vol 5 Page 274 You might have to order both to be on the safe side Peter > > Linda Lambkin wrote: >> Hi We are need help with this family. John Lamkin born 1839-1840 marr mary ann John father may have >> been John Born 1815 We need to comfirm if they are William and Rosmond family They are from Marden and >> bapt At St. Micheals and All Angles church. Any help woudl be a great help with this family and we thank >> you Lambkin family Canada