Hi All This page added today to my website: http://www.fadedgenes.co.uk/FrederickWalterSHEAFF.html All the best Dave Dixon BA (hons) - Economic & Social History - University of Kent - Canterbury 1997 www.fadedgenes.co.uk

Thanks Anne that's more than helpful. It's much appreciated. Thank you so much for taking the time to explain this. Best wishes, Cathryn On 15/09/2013 9:09 PM, Anne Peat wrote: > The Countess of Huntingdons Connexion was one of the branches of early Methodism. > > As this guide from the National Archives indicates, after 1837, most non-conformist registers were lodged with the County Records Offices. > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/nonconformists.htm > > However, and article by Matthew Copus http://www.mcopus.co.uk/huntingdon.asp indicates that there are no records surviving from this chapel after 1837 > http://www.mcopus.co.uk/huntingdon.asp > > You could enquire at the Methodist Archives, details here > > http://religiousarchivesgroup.org.uk/welcome/advice/directory/christianity/methodist/ > > particularly the John Rylands Library at Manchester University. > > The surviving churches of the Connexion has a website http://www.cofhconnexion.org.uk/ but as Matthew Copus says, they have no resources to deal with family history enquiries. > > Sorry not to be more hopeful. > > Anne > >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm wondering if someone might be able to assist me with where to look >>> for records for the Countess of Huntingdon's Connexion, Mount Ephraim at >>> Tunbridge Wells after 1837? Ancestry has records for between 1769 and >>> 1837. I'm interested though in the period after this. >>> >>> Many thanks in advance for anyone who may be able to help. >>> >>> Best wishes, Cathryn >>> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Yvonne, Many thanks for the tip, I've tried googling however I haven't been able to locate any information for parish records after 1837. I would love to find parish records for after this date if possible. Thanks Cathryn On 15/09/2013 6:37 PM, Yvonne Harris wrote: > Hi Cathryn, > > If you Google the church you will find quite a lot of information. > > Yvonne > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cathryn Warren > Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 8:40 AM > To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KENT-ENG] Countess of Huntingdon's Connexion > > Hi, > > I'm wondering if someone might be able to assist me with where to look > for records for the Countess of Huntingdon's Connexion, Mount Ephraim at > Tunbridge Wells after 1837? Ancestry has records for between 1769 and > 1837. I'm interested though in the period after this. > > Many thanks in advance for anyone who may be able to help. > > Best wishes, Cathryn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I'm wondering if someone might be able to assist me with where to look for records for the Countess of Huntingdon's Connexion, Mount Ephraim at Tunbridge Wells after 1837? Ancestry has records for between 1769 and 1837. I'm interested though in the period after this. Many thanks in advance for anyone who may be able to help. Best wishes, Cathryn

The Countess of Huntingdons Connexion was one of the branches of early Methodism. As this guide from the National Archives indicates, after 1837, most non-conformist registers were lodged with the County Records Offices. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/nonconformists.htm However, and article by Matthew Copus http://www.mcopus.co.uk/huntingdon.asp indicates that there are no records surviving from this chapel after 1837 http://www.mcopus.co.uk/huntingdon.asp You could enquire at the Methodist Archives, details here http://religiousarchivesgroup.org.uk/welcome/advice/directory/christianity/methodist/ particularly the John Rylands Library at Manchester University. The surviving churches of the Connexion has a website http://www.cofhconnexion.org.uk/ but as Matthew Copus says, they have no resources to deal with family history enquiries. Sorry not to be more hopeful. Anne >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm wondering if someone might be able to assist me with where to look >> for records for the Countess of Huntingdon's Connexion, Mount Ephraim at >> Tunbridge Wells after 1837? Ancestry has records for between 1769 and >> 1837. I'm interested though in the period after this. >> >> Many thanks in advance for anyone who may be able to help. >> >> Best wishes, Cathryn >>

Hi Cathryn, If you Google the church you will find quite a lot of information. Yvonne -----Original Message----- From: Cathryn Warren Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 8:40 AM To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com Subject: [KENT-ENG] Countess of Huntingdon's Connexion Hi, I'm wondering if someone might be able to assist me with where to look for records for the Countess of Huntingdon's Connexion, Mount Ephraim at Tunbridge Wells after 1837? Ancestry has records for between 1769 and 1837. I'm interested though in the period after this. Many thanks in advance for anyone who may be able to help. Best wishes, Cathryn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wrote to someone through Kent-online-Parish-Clerks who advertised herself as willing to do lookups but I haven't heard anything back. How long should I wait for a reply? Best wishes Frances On 6 September 2013 16:30, Susan Young <zandara@cogeco.ca> wrote: > Hi Liz, > > Thank you, very much for taking the time to write. I shall check the > Beckenham/Benenden dilemma today. > > Liz wrote, "I would also like to say that I think the OPC is a brilliant > project and you people all give so much of your time and for that I am very > grateful". > > Thank you, Liz for that statement. I think there are many who forget that > this is an entirely 100% volunteer-based project and as such are a very > small and light operation. We are blessed by the auspices of good people > who are transcribing and donating materials and blessed by the favourable > auspices of the various archives around Kent, as well as FamilySearch. I > think that many people are entirely unfamiliar with the types of technology > that are used by a large proportion of our visitors. I am still having to > keep pages workable for IE 6, Windows 98 operating systems and people who > are on dial-up. > > If it weren't for the support of all of our participants and for the kind > people such as yourself, we would not continue to exist. Life is tough > enough trying to keep hackers, spinners, phishers, spammers and scammers > out - of which we suffer close to 300 attacks per week. Let alone, trying > to get to over 600 pages to update, reconfigure and add new data and new > pages. So, sometimes progress if very slow, indeed. > > But, once again, thank you for our kind words of encouragement. They are > very much appreciated. > > Sincerely, > Susan D. Young > County Administrator, Kent OPC Project > St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada www.kent-opc.org > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kent-Online-Parish-Clerks/88157182954 > http://twitter.com/KentOPC > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- --- Regards Frances Lee

Paul if you had got the certificate of marriage for John EDGAR in 1828 in Quebec you would know who he married and also who his father was. If his father is not mentioned then as you say he married more than once so get those then. If you go to this web site you can pay a mimimum of $7.99 to look at ten records. You will then know who the father of John EDGAR is if his father is listed on the 1828 certificate of marriage. Your Folks.com http://www.mesaieux.com/defaultAn.asp I am surprised you have not already done this and if you thought he was born in Chatham, Kent, England circa 1800 have you actually looked in the parish records on line http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=Search&PathList=%2FZ4a_Medw ay_Ancestors%2F%0A&SearchWords=&DateList= this is the link for that site he is not in Chatham I can tell you that much but you dont tell us how you know he was born there. Canadian Census maybe which are also on line. Oh one of the two John EDGAR's in the census's in Canada born circ 1800 the one from England is Roman Catholic so he wont be in Church of England Parish Records in Chatham will he The other John EDGAR is born in Ireland and there are others My recommendation to you is for you to obtain records for the right family and get all / and right marriages and census records for the two John EDGARS John DAY South Australia -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul Edgar Sent: Friday, 6 September 2013 6:29 AM To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com Subject: [KENT-ENG] Looking for local assistance Hi All, One of my Granfathers, John Edgar B around 1800 in Chatham, Kent England. I have searched and searched online for any information on his exact birth or christening. Depending on which Canadian record I look at, I gather sometime between 1799 and 1801. He was married around 1828 in Quebec City Canada and I have found that record, which means he immigrated sometime before then. His occupation was listed as mariner at the time he was married, but I haven't found any records on immigration either. He was married twice after that, as a widower each time. Lastly, I have done a DNA test on the male side, and am not a match to any known Edgars on Ancestry. Was he adopted, was his dad, did the name change from some other name, etc. Anyway if anyone has a few minutes and records they could look thru for that time, I would be very grateful. Thanks, Paul Edgar Texas USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Liz, Thank you, very much for taking the time to write. I shall check the Beckenham/Benenden dilemma today. Liz wrote, "I would also like to say that I think the OPC is a brilliant project and you people all give so much of your time and for that I am very grateful". Thank you, Liz for that statement. I think there are many who forget that this is an entirely 100% volunteer-based project and as such are a very small and light operation. We are blessed by the auspices of good people who are transcribing and donating materials and blessed by the favourable auspices of the various archives around Kent, as well as FamilySearch. I think that many people are entirely unfamiliar with the types of technology that are used by a large proportion of our visitors. I am still having to keep pages workable for IE 6, Windows 98 operating systems and people who are on dial-up. If it weren't for the support of all of our participants and for the kind people such as yourself, we would not continue to exist. Life is tough enough trying to keep hackers, spinners, phishers, spammers and scammers out - of which we suffer close to 300 attacks per week. Let alone, trying to get to over 600 pages to update, reconfigure and add new data and new pages. So, sometimes progress if very slow, indeed. But, once again, thank you for our kind words of encouragement. They are very much appreciated. Sincerely, Susan D. Young County Administrator, Kent OPC Project St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada www.kent-opc.org http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kent-Online-Parish-Clerks/88157182954 http://twitter.com/KentOPC

I don't have a certificate of marriage per-se, but an entry in a church book I was mistaken or the record is not the right one but supposedly arrived NY in September 17 1828 on the John Jay. John Edgar a native of Chatham in England mariner, bachelor was married to Mary Arken of the City of Quebec. native of Ireland on 3 November, 1828 Mariage in June 14 1840 was to Charlotte Corneil spinster and he was listed as being the widower of Mary Arken and listed his ag as 39 (born 1801) Basically the same for his marriage to Edith Edelston which the church record is in French. He burial information says he was 72 in 1869(born 1799) and his wife Edith Edelston is his widow. In none of these is any other family mentioned. So arrived sometime in Canada before 1828, married again in 1840, again in So my search of church records on ancestry.com did not reveal any john edgar born 1798-1802 in Kent except for this one, but did not seem to pan out... London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 <http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1624&enc=1> Thanks for the extra hints will continue my search. John wrote: > Paul if you had got the certificate of marriage for John EDGAR in 1828 in > Quebec you would know who he married and also who his father was. > If his father is not mentioned then as you say he married more than once so > get those then. > > If you go to this web site you can pay a mimimum of $7.99 to look at ten > records. You will then know who the father of John EDGAR is if his father is > listed on the 1828 certificate of marriage. > > Your Folks.com > > http://www.mesaieux.com/defaultAn.asp > > > I am surprised you have not already done this and if you thought he was born > in Chatham, Kent, England circa 1800 have you actually looked in the parish > records on line > > http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=Search&PathList=%2FZ4a_Medw > ay_Ancestors%2F%0A&SearchWords=&DateList= > > this is the link for that site > > he is not in Chatham I can tell you that much but you dont tell us how you > know he was born there. Canadian Census maybe which are also on line. > > Oh one of the two John EDGAR's in the census's in Canada born circ 1800 the > one from England is Roman Catholic so he wont be in Church of England Parish > Records in Chatham will he > The other John EDGAR is born in Ireland and there are others > > My recommendation to you is for you to obtain records for the right family > and get all / and right marriages and census records for the two John EDGARS > > John DAY > South Australia > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Paul Edgar > Sent: Friday, 6 September 2013 6:29 AM > To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KENT-ENG] Looking for local assistance > > Hi All, > > One of my Granfathers, John Edgar B around 1800 in Chatham, Kent > England. I have searched and searched online for any information on his > exact birth or christening. Depending on which Canadian record I look > at, I gather sometime between 1799 and 1801. > > He was married around 1828 in Quebec City Canada and I have found that > record, which means he immigrated sometime before then. His occupation > was listed as mariner at the time he was married, but I haven't found > any records on immigration either. > He was married twice after that, as a widower each time. > > Lastly, I have done a DNA test on the male side, and am not a match to > any known Edgars on Ancestry. Was he adopted, was his dad, did the name > change from some other name, etc. > > Anyway if anyone has a few minutes and records they could look thru for > that time, I would be very grateful. > > Thanks, > > Paul Edgar > Texas USA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In addition to Jane's good recommendations I believe that Memorial University (MUN)in Newfoundland has a collection of Mariner records, as many fishermen etc. plied back & forth across the Atlantic regularly, with some eventually settling in Canada. Terry, Oakville, Ontario Hi Paul About John Edgar's immigration to Canada. If you haven't tried the Library and Archives Canada site (http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html) it might be worth giving it a look. It has some ships records, in some cases with passenger lists. Likewise the Province of Quebec Library and Archives  might have some records. Most of this site (http://www.banq.qc.ca/accueil/index.html?language_id=1) is in French. Jane Ryder Ottawa, Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sure hope none of my English cousins were any where near that big pile up. Annie in Minnesota

I assume you have searched all the parish records on medwaycityark? I myself have spent many hours searching with just a snippet of information. It is surprising what you may find on there. GLoria -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul Edgar Sent: 05 September 2013 21:59 To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com Subject: [KENT-ENG] Looking for local assistance Hi All, One of my Granfathers, John Edgar B around 1800 in Chatham, Kent England. I have searched and searched online for any information on his exact birth or christening. Depending on which Canadian record I look at, I gather sometime between 1799 and 1801. He was married around 1828 in Quebec City Canada and I have found that record, which means he immigrated sometime before then. His occupation was listed as mariner at the time he was married, but I haven't found any records on immigration either. He was married twice after that, as a widower each time. Lastly, I have done a DNA test on the male side, and am not a match to any known Edgars on Ancestry. Was he adopted, was his dad, did the name change from some other name, etc. Anyway if anyone has a few minutes and records they could look thru for that time, I would be very grateful. Thanks, Paul Edgar Texas USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Paul It's a massive leap to deduce adoption or a name change from your current failure to locate a baptism, let alone the lack of a DNA match with Ancestry subscribers called Edgar who have taken a similar test (which must be a tiny fraction of the possible descendants). Can you give us a list of the parishes whose registers you have checked so far? You may have to face the possibility that John was not baptised, either at birth or later. Do Canadian marriage records not mention fathers' names? Best wishes Caroline Sent from my iPad On 5 Sep 2013, at 21:59, Paul Edgar <paule@austin.rr.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > One of my Granfathers, John Edgar B around 1800 in Chatham, Kent > England. I have searched and searched online for any information on his > exact birth or christening. Depending on which Canadian record I look > at, I gather sometime between 1799 and 1801. > > He was married around 1828 in Quebec City Canada and I have found that > record, which means he immigrated sometime before then. His occupation > was listed as mariner at the time he was married, but I haven't found > any records on immigration either. > He was married twice after that, as a widower each time. > > Lastly, I have done a DNA test on the male side, and am not a match to > any known Edgars on Ancestry. Was he adopted, was his dad, did the name > change from some other name, etc. > > Anyway if anyone has a few minutes and records they could look thru for > that time, I would be very grateful. > > Thanks, > > Paul Edgar > Texas USA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Susan To confuse things even further I would just like to say that I can open all the links for the Ten Most visted parish pages; I used a left mouse click only. Can I also point out that the link to Beckenham took me to Benenden. I would also like to say that I think the OPC is a brilliant project and you people all give so much of your time and for that I am very grateful. Liz On 05/09/2013 16:02, Susan Young wrote: > Hello Robert, > > Thank you for taking the time to write, on both occurrences of your visit to > our site. Your information is helpful. > > It stymies me as to why a validated page built with proper HTML code and > proper CCS3 refuses to work smoothly in Firefox without the add-on. I've > even approached Firefox technical department about this but was summarily > rebuffed! > > Sincerely, > Susan D. Young > County Administrator, Kent OPC Project > St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada www.kent-opc.org > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kent-Online-Parish-Clerks/88157182954 > http://twitter.com/KentOPC > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Hillier" <robert@hillieruk.demon.co.uk> > To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 6:07 PM > Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Kent Online Parish Clerk - getting site to > work -correction > > >> Apologies for writing too soon - I wrote:" The Kent OPC site works >> perfectly normally for me with Firefox - no need to right click on links." >> This was true for all the links I had just tried out but (perversely) it >> is not true for all of them. Eg on the Home page, in the section "Ten Most >> Visited Parish Pages", some links eg to Maidstone, Plumstead, Deptford and >> Margate do work with a single left click but Beckenham and Ashford need >> the "right click and open in a new tab" method. >> Robert >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Paul I agree that you shouldn't be concerned with a lack of DNA connection with other Edgars. Ancestry's DNA database is still fairly new. Our family has done a Y DNA test with Family Tree DNA which has a large database of results and we haven't found a single match with our family name and we have traced our ancestors back to 1700. About John Edgar's immigration to Canada. If you haven't tried the Library and Archives Canada site (http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html) it might be worth giving it a look. It has some ships records, in some cases with passenger lists. Likewise the Province of Quebec Library and Archives  might have some records. Most of this site (http://www.banq.qc.ca/accueil/index.html?language_id=1) is in French. Jane Ryder Ottawa, Canada

Hi All, One of my Granfathers, John Edgar B around 1800 in Chatham, Kent England. I have searched and searched online for any information on his exact birth or christening. Depending on which Canadian record I look at, I gather sometime between 1799 and 1801. He was married around 1828 in Quebec City Canada and I have found that record, which means he immigrated sometime before then. His occupation was listed as mariner at the time he was married, but I haven't found any records on immigration either. He was married twice after that, as a widower each time. Lastly, I have done a DNA test on the male side, and am not a match to any known Edgars on Ancestry. Was he adopted, was his dad, did the name change from some other name, etc. Anyway if anyone has a few minutes and records they could look thru for that time, I would be very grateful. Thanks, Paul Edgar Texas USA

Hello Robert, Thank you for taking the time to write, on both occurrences of your visit to our site. Your information is helpful. It stymies me as to why a validated page built with proper HTML code and proper CCS3 refuses to work smoothly in Firefox without the add-on. I've even approached Firefox technical department about this but was summarily rebuffed! Sincerely, Susan D. Young County Administrator, Kent OPC Project St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada www.kent-opc.org http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kent-Online-Parish-Clerks/88157182954 http://twitter.com/KentOPC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Hillier" <robert@hillieruk.demon.co.uk> To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Kent Online Parish Clerk - getting site to work -correction > Apologies for writing too soon - I wrote:" The Kent OPC site works > perfectly normally for me with Firefox - no need to right click on links." > This was true for all the links I had just tried out but (perversely) it > is not true for all of them. Eg on the Home page, in the section "Ten Most > Visited Parish Pages", some links eg to Maidstone, Plumstead, Deptford and > Margate do work with a single left click but Beckenham and Ashford need > the "right click and open in a new tab" method. > Robert > >

Hi Robert, Thank you for your email. I wanted to contact Susan Young on another matter, and wasn't querying a problem with the site - when I clicked onto the Contact Us link nothing happened though. However, when Susan Young (County Administrator) contacted me, she explained that Chrome (which is what we use) isn't compatible with their website, which is why I couldn't get through to her. I've pasted Susan's email here in case anyone else experiences problems in the future though - "Are you using Firefox? In Firefox you have to right click your mouse any one of the links and then select "open in new window" or "open in new tab". Then the links will work with no problem. This seems to apply to the links in the main menu bar at the top of the page, as well. Our pages are (as they are being updated and redeveloped) coded and validated with the W3 validator, it's just that Firefox doesn't seem to want to acknowledge the same. There is also the option of installing an add-on available for Firefox that allows viewing of a website as if it had been opened in Internet Explorer. If you are using Chrome, that is an entirely different story. Chrome only acknowledges HTML 5.0 and higher. We are coded in HTML 4.1 transitional with no intentions of going to 5 as eventually we will be going back into a content management system. I haven't tested in any current version of Opera and have no access to a Mac. But, I have heard from some Mac users with some Safari browsers that the site is working fine." Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > The Kent OPC site works perfectly normally for me with Firefox - no need > to right click on links. My version of Firefox is uptodate - perhaps old > versions have problems? > Thanks to all the OPC workers - your efforts are much appreciated. > Best wishes to all listers, > Robert

Apologies for writing too soon - I wrote:" The Kent OPC site works perfectly normally for me with Firefox - no need to right click on links." This was true for all the links I had just tried out but (perversely) it is not true for all of them. Eg on the Home page, in the section "Ten Most Visited Parish Pages", some links eg to Maidstone, Plumstead, Deptford and Margate do work with a single left click but Beckenham and Ashford need the "right click and open in a new tab" method. Robert