Helen Yes, Daniel was her brother. So far I have found the following in Throwley registers: Thomas, bap. 11 Nov 1711 Mary, bap. 20 Dec 1713 John, bap. 6 May 1716 Hester, bap. 21 Jun 1719 Daniel, bap. 1 Apr 1722 All children of John KINGSLAND and Mary (ELLETT). Steve Baldock B.Sc.(Hons)(Eng) *contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* *http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* Facebook: baldockfaggfamily <http://www.facebook.com/baldockfaggfamily> Twitter: @baldockfaggfam <http://twitter.com/baldockfaggfam> Norfolk FHS # *12782* Kent FHS # *12869* GOONS #* 5618*

Discovered whilst perusing Throwley registers: 1719 Dec.r 19th Ann daughter of Wm BERRY Silkweaver of London & Elizabeth his pretended wife Mmmmm .. Steve Baldock B.Sc.(Hons)(Eng) *contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* *http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* Facebook: baldockfaggfamily <http://www.facebook.com/baldockfaggfamily> Twitter: @baldockfaggfam <http://twitter.com/baldockfaggfam> Norfolk FHS # *12782* Kent FHS # *12869* GOONS #* 5618*

Discovered today whilst perusing Throwley registers: 1712 July 2 Mary Daughter of Richard FETHERSTONE & Elizabeth TURNER, a Bastard, ye father was marryed the same day to this woman. Steve Baldock B.Sc.(Hons)(Eng) *contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* *http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* Facebook: baldockfaggfamily <http://www.facebook.com/baldockfaggfamily> Twitter: @baldockfaggfam <http://twitter.com/baldockfaggfam> Norfolk FHS # *12782* Kent FHS # *12869* GOONS #* 5618*

Discovered today whilst perusing Throwley registers: 1712 Sept.r 21: Mary GILLS [or SILLS], aged 20: years, but not being baptized in Infancy, was baptized this day, before sufficient witnesses Steve Baldock B.Sc.(Hons)(Eng) *contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* *http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* Facebook: baldockfaggfamily <http://www.facebook.com/baldockfaggfamily> Twitter: @baldockfaggfam <http://twitter.com/baldockfaggfam> Norfolk FHS # *12782* Kent FHS # *12869* GOONS #* 5618*

This is most interesting, I shall wait in anticipation,          Best wishes ________________________________ From: Steve Baldock <contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk> To: kent-eng <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 6 December 2013, 8:36 Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] A family affair (ROGER GREEN) Brenda     If I can prove a link between Thomas and my Pluckley/Charing/Egerton/Westwell BALDOCKs then I guess we're related too! Steve Baldock B.Sc.(Hons)(Eng) *contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* *http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* Facebook: baldockfaggfamily <http://www.facebook.com/baldockfaggfamily> Twitter: @baldockfaggfam <http://twitter.com/baldockfaggfam> Norfolk FHS # *12782* Kent FHS # *12869* GOONS #* 5618* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

So, my next question is did she have a brother called Daniel? The Daniel born in 1722 in Throwley to John and Mary seems to fit, the names are common names within the family and I can't find conclusive evidence of Daniel's parentage. ? a breakthrough and some new cousins! Any answers gratefully received. Helen Researching KINGSLAND and ROLFE with roots in Kent -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ROGER GREEN Sent: 05 December 2013 10:16 AM To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] A family affair I found this most interesting Steve. Esther Kingsland is my 1st cousin 7x removed. My thanks to you, Brenda ________________________________ From: Steve Baldock <contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk> To: kent-eng <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2013, 9:56 Subject: [KENT-ENG] A family affair >From my blog: Whilst perusing through the parish registers for Stalisfield this weekend, I came across an unusual entry: ‘*William the Son of Thomas BOLDUC by Esther KINGSLAND his wifes daughter, his wife being then alive*‘. William was baptised 23 Dec 1753 in Stalisfield, Kent. A quick check through my records would indicate that I probably don’t have this Thomas (although his birthdate needs further research). The wife mentioned was Mary ELLETT who married John KINGSLAND on 6 Oct 1710 in Throwley, three and a half miles away. Esther (Hester) was baptised 21 Jun 1719 in Throwley. Mary married Thomas on 30 Sep 1747 in Throwley. Therefore, Esther was probably around thirty-four when she gave birth to William, whose father was her own step-father. I will probably never find out whether this family affair was desired by both parties, or indeed accepted by the family. I have not yet determined what happened to Thomas’s marriage thereafter. The fact that the parentage is mentioned in parish registers, even that of one over three miles away, would hint that they did not feel shame in admitting it, or that the knowledge was known outside the family. Social historians would no doubt be able to indicate the commonality of such a union. I guess today we would judge by their appearance on the Jeremy Kyle or Jerry Springer shows! References: 1. STALISFIELD St. Mary, composite parish register 1699-1812, CCA-U3-264/1/1, Canterbury Cathedral Archives. Steve Baldock B.Sc.(Hons)(Eng) *contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* *http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* Facebook: baldockfaggfamily <http://www.facebook.com/baldockfaggfamily> Twitter: @baldockfaggfam <http://twitter.com/baldockfaggfam> Norfolk FHS # *12782* Kent FHS # *12869* GOONS #* 5618* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Brenda If I can prove a link between Thomas and my Pluckley/Charing/Egerton/Westwell BALDOCKs then I guess we're related too! Steve Baldock B.Sc.(Hons)(Eng) *contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* *http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* Facebook: baldockfaggfamily <http://www.facebook.com/baldockfaggfamily> Twitter: @baldockfaggfam <http://twitter.com/baldockfaggfam> Norfolk FHS # *12782* Kent FHS # *12869* GOONS #* 5618*

I found this most interesting Steve. Esther Kingsland is my 1st cousin 7x removed. My thanks to you, Brenda ________________________________ From: Steve Baldock <contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk> To: kent-eng <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2013, 9:56 Subject: [KENT-ENG] A family affair >From my blog: Whilst perusing through the parish registers for Stalisfield this weekend, I came across an unusual entry: ‘*William the Son of Thomas BOLDUC by Esther KINGSLAND his wifes daughter, his wife being then alive*‘. William was baptised 23 Dec 1753 in Stalisfield, Kent. A quick check through my records would indicate that I probably don’t have this Thomas (although his birthdate needs further research). The wife mentioned was Mary ELLETT who married John KINGSLAND on 6 Oct 1710 in Throwley, three and a half miles away. Esther (Hester) was baptised 21 Jun 1719 in Throwley. Mary married Thomas on 30 Sep 1747 in Throwley. Therefore, Esther was probably around thirty-four when she gave birth to William, whose father was her own step-father. I will probably never find out whether this family affair was desired by both parties, or indeed accepted by the family. I have not yet determined what happened to Thomas’s marriage thereafter. The fact that the parentage is mentioned in parish registers, even that of one over three miles away, would hint that they did not feel shame in admitting it, or that the knowledge was known outside the family. Social historians would no doubt be able to indicate the commonality of such a union. I guess today we would judge by their appearance on the Jeremy Kyle or Jerry Springer shows! References:   1. STALISFIELD St. Mary, composite parish register 1699-1812,   CCA-U3-264/1/1, Canterbury Cathedral Archives. Steve Baldock B.Sc.(Hons)(Eng) *contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* *http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* Facebook: baldockfaggfamily <http://www.facebook.com/baldockfaggfamily> Twitter: @baldockfaggfam <http://twitter.com/baldockfaggfam> Norfolk FHS # *12782* Kent FHS # *12869* GOONS #* 5618* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Steve My husband has another instance in his family. His 2 x g.grandmother was the daughter of a 19 year old girl and her 39 year old step father. His wife had died 2 years previously and I imagine she stayed in the family home to look after the 3 children of this marriage. They lived in a small Oxfordshire village and did in fact marry in Oxford shortly after the birth of the baby. This was presumably because they could get married where they weren't known - canon law forbidding the marriage of a man to his step-daughter. However, the poor child was baptised in the local church two days after the wedding as 'the bastard daughter of' Sue -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Steve Baldock Sent: 03 December 2013 09:56 To: kent-eng Subject: [KENT-ENG] A family affair >From my blog: Whilst perusing through the parish registers for Stalisfield this weekend, I came across an unusual entry: '*William the Son of Thomas BOLDUC by Esther KINGSLAND his wifes daughter, his wife being then alive*'. William was baptised 23 Dec 1753 in Stalisfield, Kent. A quick check through my records would indicate that I probably don't have this Thomas (although his birthdate needs further research). The wife mentioned was Mary ELLETT who married John KINGSLAND on 6 Oct 1710 in Throwley, three and a half miles away. Esther (Hester) was baptised 21 Jun 1719 in Throwley. Mary married Thomas on 30 Sep 1747 in Throwley. Therefore, Esther was probably around thirty-four when she gave birth to William, whose father was her own step-father. I will probably never find out whether this family affair was desired by both parties, or indeed accepted by the family. I have not yet determined what happened to Thomas's marriage thereafter. The fact that the parentage is mentioned in parish registers, even that of one over three miles away, would hint that they did not feel shame in admitting it, or that the knowledge was known outside the family. Social historians would no doubt be able to indicate the commonality of such a union. I guess today we would judge by their appearance on the Jeremy Kyle or Jerry Springer shows! References: 1. STALISFIELD St. Mary, composite parish register 1699-1812, CCA-U3-264/1/1, Canterbury Cathedral Archives. Steve Baldock B.Sc.(Hons)(Eng) *contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* *http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* Facebook: baldockfaggfamily <http://www.facebook.com/baldockfaggfamily> Twitter: @baldockfaggfam <http://twitter.com/baldockfaggfam> Norfolk FHS # *12782* Kent FHS # *12869* GOONS #* 5618* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From my blog: Whilst perusing through the parish registers for Stalisfield this weekend, I came across an unusual entry: ‘*William the Son of Thomas BOLDUC by Esther KINGSLAND his wifes daughter, his wife being then alive*‘. William was baptised 23 Dec 1753 in Stalisfield, Kent. A quick check through my records would indicate that I probably don’t have this Thomas (although his birthdate needs further research). The wife mentioned was Mary ELLETT who married John KINGSLAND on 6 Oct 1710 in Throwley, three and a half miles away. Esther (Hester) was baptised 21 Jun 1719 in Throwley. Mary married Thomas on 30 Sep 1747 in Throwley. Therefore, Esther was probably around thirty-four when she gave birth to William, whose father was her own step-father. I will probably never find out whether this family affair was desired by both parties, or indeed accepted by the family. I have not yet determined what happened to Thomas’s marriage thereafter. The fact that the parentage is mentioned in parish registers, even that of one over three miles away, would hint that they did not feel shame in admitting it, or that the knowledge was known outside the family. Social historians would no doubt be able to indicate the commonality of such a union. I guess today we would judge by their appearance on the Jeremy Kyle or Jerry Springer shows! References: 1. STALISFIELD St. Mary, composite parish register 1699-1812, CCA-U3-264/1/1, Canterbury Cathedral Archives. Steve Baldock B.Sc.(Hons)(Eng) *contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* *http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk <http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk>* Facebook: baldockfaggfamily <http://www.facebook.com/baldockfaggfamily> Twitter: @baldockfaggfam <http://twitter.com/baldockfaggfam> Norfolk FHS # *12782* Kent FHS # *12869* GOONS #* 5618*

Hi All, I was wondering if someone could translate the place of birth in Kent of Mary George, widow aged 76 on census 1871 RG12/402, folio 29, Page 51. Address: 193 Lever St, St Luke, Holborn. Many thanks for any assistance, Peter, Melbourne, Australia

It's Tunbridge. HTH! Regards, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Ryan" <peter@cussen.org> To: <kent-eng@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 12:21 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] MARY GEORGE, 1871 Census > Hi All, > I was wondering if someone could translate the place of birth in Kent of > Mary George, widow aged 76 on census 1871 RG12/402, folio 29, Page 51. > Address: 193 Lever St, St Luke, Holborn. > Many thanks for any assistance, > Peter, Melbourne, Australia > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6876 - Release Date: 11/28/13 >

Hi All One of the names listed on the war memorial in Whitstable is Capt. G. CLARK The memorial in All Saints Church shows George Clarke, Master of the Tweed. This file shows what I have managed to put together for him: http://www.fadedgenes.co.uk/GeorgeCLARKE.html I would be grateful if anyone can add anything further, no matter how small. All the best Dave Dixon BA (hons) - Economic & Social History - University of Kent - Canterbury 1997 www.fadedgenes.co.uk

I'm researching the following PERRY family and would love to hear from anyone researching same. James PERRY m. Sarah ? date unknown. Children: Martha Ann 18 Jun 1800 born Gravesend, Kent; Rebecca 01 Mar 1802; William 26 Sep 1803; James 12 Feb 1805 died 26 Jul 1806; James 13 Feb 1807; Frederick Elwick 16 Jan 1809; Eliza 01 Dec 1810; Clara 21 Mar 1813; Samuel 23 Jul 1814 died 02 Apr 1815; Matilda 20 Aug 1817; Nathaniel John 03 Sep 1819 died 17 Sep 1819 and Caroline 12 Nov 1820 all born in St. Marys Sandwich Kent. Rebecca PERRY m. John GRILLS 18 Oct 1824 St. Marys Sandwich Kent Children: James John 02 Oct 1825 and Frederick Edward 03 Sep 1826 both born in St. Marys Sandwich Kent. Rebecca and John came to NSW Australia about 1827. Thanks, Jen.

I'm researching the following family and would love to hear from anyone researching same. William ADAMS m. Elizabeth CLARK 24 May 1766 St Marys Dover Kent Children: William 29 Mar 1767; Marks 13 Jan 1769; Sarah 16 Dec 1770 and John 16 Dec 1772 all born in St. Marys Dover Kent. Marks ADAMS m. Ann SMITH 22 Apr 1790 St. Marys Dover Kent Children: Susanna 28 Aug 1790; Mary 30 Mar 1793; Thomas Mark/Marks 19 Apr 1795 and Ann 22 Sep 1799 all born in St. Marys Dover Kent. Thomas Mark/Marks ADAMS married Elizabeth ? could be KIMBER date unknown. There is one entry 05 Jan 1822 in Kintbury Berkshire but not sure if it is the right couple. Children: Thomas Marks 04 Dec 1825 born in St. Marys Dover Kent and Richard Kimber 27 Sep 1828 born in Southwark London. Thanks, Jen.

Rx post your message at the KFHS. They will have many suggestions for you. mailto:kfhs-members-request@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com Robert Cushman cushmandna@aol.com

Well said Bryan! the older of the tworobbos @ Wy Yung, near Bairnsdale

Hi, I am newly resubscribed and am planning my first genealogy trip to England to try to break down some brick walls and I would love some help or suggestions for research. My first brick wall pertains to an Elizabeth MOUNT who married Joseph JUBB May 27, 1828 in St Mary Magdalene in Canterbury. Later census information indicates a birth around 1805 in Canterbury but I have been unable to find her birth. I did locate a christening of an Elizabeth MOUNT to Ann MOUNT in one of the Canterbury parishes in the early 1820's as an adult. What should I infer from this record and do you see it as a dead end or where should I search. My second brickwall pertains to a Mary BUSHELL, who married a different Joseph JUBB August 2, 1802 in St Paul's, Canterbury. Later census returns indicate a birth in Ash, Kent in 1785. I have found a birth record for a Mary BUSHELL in Ash in 1785, but I have had it indicated to me that the Mary BUSHELL I found is a different lady. I am at a loss at how to find a second Mary BUSHELL or to prove my find. Any suggestions for my research. My third brickwall is with a William JUBB born in about 1745 somewhere in Kent, I think. My fourth brickwall is with William BODLE born in Canterbury? in about 1731-33. The problem is there are a couple of William BODLEs born in about that time period and I do not know how to prove which is mine. Can anyone help me with these brickwalls or point me to where I should go and what I should do in researching these families? Where should I stay - looking at hostels and how long should I expect my research to take? Thank you in advance. Larry Martin

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 03:21:05 +0000 "brian.btlr@gmail.com" <brian.btlr@googlemail.com> wrote: Hello brian.btlr@gmail.com, >Sorry, but I am interested but not all the threads, please! It's all or nothing, you can't pick and choose, because.... >I do try to read all on this brilliant site. But a maximum number of ....this is not a (web)site, but a mailing list to which you have subscribed. >threads or replies to a question should be maximum of 5. Unless a new How would we determine that? A question arrives at the list server and is sent out to all list subscribers. All list subscribers see it, of which, say, seven know the answer. Which five should actually send the answer? Further, if there is only one answer, who sends it? Anybody? Nobody? >member scrolling through a number of messages, a lot are just repeating >that someone else has said. That that member requesting the original It's an inevitable consequence of the way mailing lists work. Not everyone pick up their mail at the same time. In fact, it's even possible that some people will see answers before the original question arrives in their inbox. >info, should then give a concise reply back. The site >manager/controller what ever you Will should have slightly more List admin have enough to do without having to moderate every message. There's also the issue of questions arising such as "Hey, I sent an answer to so-and-so's question, so why didn't my post make it to the list?" -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" White people going to school, where they teach you to be thick White Riot - The Clash

Robert, it could be that they went by air, but why would they then return by ship? Ship would have been cheaper option. Mystery. -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KEMSLEY, Robert N. G. Sent: Sunday, 17 November 2013 5:13 PM To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Seeking G/F Robert WALTON to the UK 1949/1950? Good evening Ann; Yes: G/F Robert WALTON went over to the UK 1949 by himself; returning to Sydney where he married Mabel Helen PETERKIN and then together I would imagine in 1950 sometime; he revisited the UK with his new bride. Record of G/F Robert WALTON arriving Southampton and departing London in 1949 have been found, also record of G/F Robert and Mabel Helen WALTON have been found returning from Southampton 23 Dec 1950 for Sydney, but; what cannot thus far be found is G/F Robert and Mabel Helen WALTON departing Sydney and arriving the UK in 1950? Yes: by rereading the previous message I sent to the list; I see I made a mistake; Robert WALTON and Mabel Helen PETERKIN married here in Sydney 24 Dec 1949 and not 1950 as I had shown: Sorry about that. Robert ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message