Hi Mary, My dads brothers and sisters were born Greenwich and Deptford but always seemed to be baptised in the same Church. The Worwoods even waited to return from Birmingham to rotherhithe surrey before baptising two girls at the same time......one was 5 at the time of her baptism. "Usually", although not always, when this happens the vicar puts the birth date on the baptism register. Perhaps you need to expand your search in years. Moving around seems to be an issue here. Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > luck..My Eliza said she was born Strood but I feel she was not christened > there as I can not find her in that area.. Is it unusual for a person to > be > born in one place and christened in other. The father was a brickmaker so > I > feel that he must have moved around to find work.. > Thanks for the info sites they are very useful > Kind Regards > Mary > Sydney

Hi Zandara Thank you for your reply.. I have trolled through Medway records for days and then saw that there was a CD that covered Strood baptism records and just wandered if someone could have a quick look in case I missed something in the millions of searches I did on Medway without any luck..My Eliza said she was born Strood but I feel she was not christened there as I can not find her in that area.. Is it unusual for a person to be born in one place and christened in other. The father was a brickmaker so I feel that he must have moved around to find work.. Thanks for the info sites they are very useful Kind Regards Mary Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "zandara" <zandara@cogeco.ca> To: "Mary Paterson" <themaryp@ozemail.com.au>; <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:14 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] CD for Strood > Hello Mary, > > Strood and all other Medway Union parishes are available, free, online at > > http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/ > > From the volume of mail I receive containing queries about 'getting > around' on Cityark I know that a number of people are completely confused > by Cityark's setup. To clear the fog for people, I've posted 3 FAQs > online that answer the questions from....'how do I find...' to 'is there > an index', which can be found at the links included below. Please read > the first on the list as it will tell you how to begin by finding the > parish you are interested in. > > Finding information on Cityark > http://www.ancestrysolutions.com/FAQResearchA16.html > > Is there an index http://www.ancestrysolutions.com/FAQResearchA15.html > > What is a marriage register code > http://www.ancestrysolutions.com/FAQResearchA14.html > > A growing collection of FAQs on many varied subjects can be found at > http://www.ancestrysolutions.com/FAQResearch.htm > > Happy hunting! > > Sincerely, > Susan D. Young, St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada > Chief Executive, Ancestry Solutions www.ancestrysolutions.com > County Administrator, Kent OPC www.kent-opc.org > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Paterson" <themaryp@ozemail.com.au> > To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:41 PM > Subject: [KENT-ENG] CD for Strood > > > Would some kind soul who has the CD for Strood see if they can find for me > > Eliza Elizabeth Bennett born Strood c1826-1829. father George Bennett a > Brickmakes.. > > Ever hopeful..with thanks > > Mary > In humid Sydney... > >

Jacky wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have been looking for years for the deaths of my Grandparents but to no avail. The information I have is that my mother visited them on an Estate when she was a teenager (she was born 1920) at Sevonoaks,Kent. My grandparents names are: > > HENRY JOSEPH HEAD born 1867 Marylebone,London, Gardener > EMILY GEORGINA HEAD (nee COX) born abt September 1862 Coventry,Warwickshire > > I had thought I might have found my Grandfather's Death as found one for Henry J Head at Sittingbourne,Kent, which I understood was close to Sevonoaks. > > I have today received the Death Certificate but it would appear to be incorrect as it shows the name to be > > HENRY JOHN HEAD living at 5 Victoria Place, Farnham,Kent. He is 83 years of age. If anyone is interested in having a copy of this Death Certificate please email me direct. Don't forget to add those details as a postem to his birth since FreeBMD hasn't got much past 1935 so far. It could help someone else. Adding details from other certificates you have to the relevant entries would help others find the right person. Adding your email address could find you new cousins too. Plus it will help make FreeBMD the most comprehensive and accurate free resource available. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hello Martin, On FreeBMD there are two possible marriages for the parents' of Richard HOLDEN and Maud Jane DORAN. DORAN, George William LANE, Mary Ann District of Hendon-Msx 3a 252 December quarter 1883 HOLDEN, Richard CLAYSON, Jane District of Thanet 2a 1647 (includes Margate) December quarter 1883 There were other Richard HOLDEN/Jane marriages, but all were in the north around Lancashire. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > I am researching after a request by my uncle to trace the family of his > father Richard HOLDEN born 1887 in Margate who married Maud Jane DORAN > born > Jan 1894 in Kilburn, Middlesex. I have the parents of Richard as Richard > HOLDEN born 1861 in Ward, Kent and Elizabeth Jane ????? born 1863 in > Margate > and Maud's parents as George William DORAN born 1861 and Mary A ???? born > 1864 in Marylebone, Middlesex. Any details about the DORAN family would > also be welcome. Thank you. > Martin Bishop

Hi Jacky, There are two family trees on Ancestry for Henry Joseph Head. One of them however has his wife as being Emily Gardener (which you have as the occupation for Henry) instead of Emily Cox. There are two living children for Henry and Emily. Both trees have his parents as Charles Head and Eliza Seward. One of the trees has extensive information about Charles as being a police constable/superintendent. Also full details about Vincent George Head one of Henry's brothers. Regards Diana In a message dated 02/02/2010 06:36:32 GMT Standard Time, jmb@netspace.net.au writes: I did a search on Ancestry.com, and there were 29 Henry J Heads. There is one dying in 1951 in Andover, Hants, aged 84, and his age matches your information. June quarter 1951, Andover 6b 57. There is an entry for Emily G Head, registered in December quarter 1946, aged 84, Hendon 5f 18. I think these might be the ones you're after. Regards James Butler

Hi Martin Richard HOLDEN senior was born in WORTH Kent. Near Sandwich and Ash. Marriages Dec 1883    HOLDEN  Richard    Thanet  2a 164 SOLLY  Elizabeth Jane    Thanet  2a 1647 They married 22nd December 1883 at St Johns Church Margate. Richard aged 23 Gas House Stoker. Elizabeth aged 20, Fathers, Richard Holden, Market Gardener, Edward Solly, Blacksmith. Witnessed by James Herbert Sandwell and Mary Ann Solly. 1861 Census Holden  Richard  47 Head Parish Clerk & Carrier Worth, Kent  Hackling Chalk Pit, Worth, Kent    Holden  Mary  43 Wife  Sholden, Kent  Hackling Chalk Pit, Worth, Kent  Holden  William  12 Son Agricultural Labourer Worth, Kent  Hackling Chalk Pit, Worth, Kent    Holden  Henry J  10 Son Agricultural Labourer Worth, Kent  Hackling Chalk Pit, Worth, Kent    Holden  Ralph  7 Son Scholar Worth, Kent  Hackling Chalk Pit, Worth, Kent  Holden  Emily J  3 Daur Scholar Worth, Kent  Hackling Chalk Pit, Worth, Kent         Holden  Richard  8M Son  Worth, Kent  Hackling Chalk Pit, Worth, Kent 1871 Census Holden  Richard  57 Head Parish Clerk Worth, Kent  Chalkpit, Sandwich     Holden  Mary  52 Wife  Sholden, Kent  Chalkpit, Sandwich          Holden  William  22 Son Agricultural Labourer Worth, Kent  Chalkpit, Sandwich         Holden  Henry J  20 Son Agricultural Labourer Worth, Kent  Chalkpit, Sandwich           Holden  Emily J  13 Daughter Scholar Worth, Kent  Chalkpit, Sandwich  Holden  Richard  10 Son Scholar Worth, Kent  Chalkpit, Sandwich In 1881, Unmarried Richard, a Gas House Stoker, is lodging at 57 Milton Road, Margate In 1891 the family are at 4 Brockley Road, Margate In 1901 the family are living at 22 Princes Street Margate. (demolished) Sending details off list. Suzannah ----- Original Message ---- From: Martin Bishop <mandgtb@virginmedia.com> To: ISLE-OF-THANET@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 1 February, 2010 18:15:51 Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] HOLDEN family in Margate Good evening Is there anyone out there researching the HOLDEN surname of Margate, Kent? I am researching after a request by my uncle to trace the family of his father Richard HOLDEN born 1887 in Margate who married Maud Jane DORAN born Jan 1894 in Kilburn, Middlesex.  I have the parents of Richard as Richard HOLDEN born 1861 in Ward, Kent and Elizabeth Jane ????? born 1863 in Margate and Maud's parents as George William DORAN born 1861 and Mary A ???? born 1864 in Marylebone, Middlesex.  Any details about the DORAN family would also be welcome.  Thank you. Best regards   Martin Bishop ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All. The place name transcription work on the 1874 map of Surrey has now been completed, so I am pleased to launch the map on the MAPCO website. It is: Map Of The County Of Surrey From Trigonometrical Survey With The Roads, Parks & Railways 1874 http://archivemaps.com/mapco/surrey1874/surrey1874.htm Use the thumbnail map at the top of each page to navigate your way around the map. Hovering your mouse pointer over the thumbnails will display a pop-up message showing the areas covered by that map section. A coloured thumbnail image shows you where you are on the map. The usual 'click to enlarge' feature applies to the individual map section images displayed. This map includes a comprehensive search feature for place names. The search feature is located at the top right of each page, with a search box containing the words "Search This Map". The Search Engine enables a targeted search of the entire 1874 map of Surrey. The spelling of place names has been accurately transcribed from the map, so reflects the spelling used on the map. No modern updating of place names has been applied, so some lateral thinking may be required to find a desired street or place. Refer to the ' Complete Index Of Surrey Place Names' link if you are having difficulty finding a place. My sincere thanks to all of the Listers who volunteered to assist with transcribing the place names from the Surrey map images. Thank you all for doing such a wonderful job! Sincerely, thank you. Enjoy this beautiful map! Kind regards, David Hale, Adelaide, South Australia. MAPCO : Map And Plan Collection Online http://archivemaps.com Map of London 1851 http://london1851.com Map of London 1868 http://london1868.com Map Of Dublin 1798 http://dublin1798.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Good evening Is there anyone out there researching the HOLDEN surname of Margate, Kent? I am researching after a request by my uncle to trace the family of his father Richard HOLDEN born 1887 in Margate who married Maud Jane DORAN born Jan 1894 in Kilburn, Middlesex. I have the parents of Richard as Richard HOLDEN born 1861 in Ward, Kent and Elizabeth Jane ????? born 1863 in Margate and Maud's parents as George William DORAN born 1861 and Mary A ???? born 1864 in Marylebone, Middlesex. Any details about the DORAN family would also be welcome. Thank you. Best regards Martin Bishop

Would some kind soul who has the CD for Strood see if they can find for me Eliza Elizabeth Bennett born Strood c1826-1829. father George Bennett a Brickmakes.. Ever hopeful..with thanks Mary In humid Sydney...

Huge thanks to Pam Hillier for finding the baptism of Susanna Wigmore at St Johns Horsleydown - I have now found a marriage on the Surrey marriages CD published by the West Surrey FHS for William Thomas WIGMORE and Susanna ASQUITH - so that nicely establishes the Wigmore/Asquith connection and explains the mourning ring - Amos Asquith's will mentions his daughter Susanna. Thanks, too, to Judy Lester - I've emailed the Lewisham Local Studies people but I am now pretty certain that the St Margaret's, Lee, marriage in 1820 is the one I've been looking for. What a good start to the week! Anne South Australia pam hillier wrote: > Hi Anne Snip > 4. There are three Asquiths in Hoseleydown, children of Phillip......and > interestingly, there is a Susannah wigmore born Horsleydown, St Johns to A > William Thomas and Susanna WIGMORE, bapt 11/4/1798 and born 20/3/1798 - WT > was a biscuit maker. > 5. You still need the marriage to really clinch the birth hon...... > But I hope this helps a little. > Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > > > > > > >> >> For years, I've been looking for the marriage of my gggrandfather Edward >> Thomas FARMER to Susannah ? - he >> came from a Bermondsey (Surrey) family and there is a connection (his >> mourning ring has been handed down as a >> family heirloom) through Susanna with Amos ASQUITH, who was either her >> father or grandfather, a Bermondsey >> brewer who died in 1793, so I disregarded this marriage in the IGI, >> thinking >> that Kent was unlikely. >> >> EDWARD THOMAS FARMER >> Marriages: >> Spouse: SUSANNA WIGMORE >> 12 MAR 1820 Lee, Kent, England >> M016504 >> >> However, browsing through the Ancestry LMA collection, I discovered that >> Lee >> was in the Hundred of Lewisham >> (only about 6 miles from Bermondsey) and some of the St Margaret's records >> are in the database. The >> marriages, however, end at 1813. My local FHC has just broken its only >> fiche reader (wasn't me, honest!), so >> getting the film isn't an option at the moment. >> >> I'm hoping the marriage entry will give Edward's parish as St Mary >> Magdalene, Bermondsey. I've Googled and >> there seem to be some transcriptions in the Lewisham library but not for >> the >> period I am interested in. >> I'd be grateful for any ideas as to where I can find out the details of >> the >> marriage; their first child was >> born in March 1821, so it fits. >> >> Anne >> South Australia >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Mary, Strood and all other Medway Union parishes are available, free, online at http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/ >From the volume of mail I receive containing queries about 'getting around' on Cityark I know that a number of people are completely confused by Cityark's setup. To clear the fog for people, I've posted 3 FAQs online that answer the questions from....'how do I find...' to 'is there an index', which can be found at the links included below. Please read the first on the list as it will tell you how to begin by finding the parish you are interested in. Finding information on Cityark http://www.ancestrysolutions.com/FAQResearchA16.html Is there an index http://www.ancestrysolutions.com/FAQResearchA15.html What is a marriage register code http://www.ancestrysolutions.com/FAQResearchA14.html A growing collection of FAQs on many varied subjects can be found at http://www.ancestrysolutions.com/FAQResearch.htm Happy hunting! Sincerely, Susan D. Young, St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada Chief Executive, Ancestry Solutions www.ancestrysolutions.com County Administrator, Kent OPC www.kent-opc.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Paterson" <themaryp@ozemail.com.au> To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:41 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] CD for Strood Would some kind soul who has the CD for Strood see if they can find for me Eliza Elizabeth Bennett born Strood c1826-1829. father George Bennett a Brickmakes.. Ever hopeful..with thanks Mary In humid Sydney...

In a message dated 1/28/2010 5:22:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, Chris@coalole.demon.co.uk writes: I haven't heard of "the Islanders", but I have an article in front me which is in encyclopaedia of ca 1909. It has a table of various types of warships, , leading naval nations, and the number of each class of warship. It shows that we have twice as many Battleships as any other nation; more than twice as many cruisers as any other nation; More in fact of every class of naval ship other than submarines and torpedo boats -where the UK is second to France. In message <6E89B32AA69E43CEA740DFC4884662DE@usered3851f9e7>, Carolstree <carolstree@btinternet.com> writes >Found amongst possessions of the COPLAND family of Sheerness is a membership >booklet belonging to L C SHRUBSOLE Esq. of ' The Islanders'. The policy >of the society was >to try to ensure that ' two British ships shall be laid down for every >one of the next strongest >European Power'. No date, but a 1909 House of Commons speech by A J >Balfour is quoted from. >Entrance fee 2/6, no annual subscription. > >I think this may be Lewis Charles SHRUBSOLE born 1865 Sheppey. He is >not related to my >family and I don't know how they acquired the document, but I would >like to know more >about the society. Has anyone heard of it? Google not helpful. > >Carol > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Chris Whitehead ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hi, Patrick J. Buchanan recently wrote a book that included a bit about maintaining the British navy on par with that of France and Germany.... Churchill, Hitler, and "The Unnecessary War": How Britain Lost Its Empire… The book is an interesting read....a lot of facts are presented including the struggle to maintain the parity of the British naval fleet. The book is a new look at the times just prior to WWI and the period between the two WWs. Buchanan is one of the historians who feels that two decades between the wars was an intermission of sorts and that the wars were really one WW. Steade

Hello Anne, Did you look in London marriages?? Some of the more well to do &/or adventurous Kent mob went to London to be married ie Blaxlands. Worth a try & Ancestry has that lovely London marriage index there for all to see. Cheers. Annie > Anne Chambers <anne.chambers@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Thanks, Pam - I have the FARMERs pretty well sorted in Bermondsey, I > just can't find the marriage of Edward > Thomas. > > The Farmers were ropemakers/mariners/carpenters; the Edward Thomas > baptised in 1796 is him (he?). > > I'll investigate the Susannah Wigmore 1798 baptism - the family bible > has her dying in 1872 'in her 75th year' > so that might fit. > > What I really need is the 1820 marriage! And an ASQUITH/WIGMORE > marriage would be nice too ;) > > Anne > > pam hillier wrote: > > Hi Anne > > No Marriage that I can find by other means but I have not got the > marriage > > cd......only the baptisms. > > Just a thing of note Anne, Bermondsey is being transcribed by the West > > Surrey FHG not Kent. > > 4 Asquiths on the CD > > 13 Wigmores and a swag of FARMERS, loads in Bermondsey. > > lee is 3.6 miles from Bermondsey according to Parloc Parish locator. > > BUT > > There is an Edward Thomas FARMER baptism St Mary Magdalene Bermondsey > > 25/9/1796 to Nicholas and Ann (ropemaker), birth date 22/8/1796 > (making him > > 24 at marriage) I wonder if this is him. > > others of lesser note..... > > > > 2. There's one Asquith In St Mary Mag, Bermondsey, Bapt Thomas Gibson > > Asquith son of David and Susanna, captain, 29/9/1786 born 6/9/1786 > > Susanna???? > > 3. There's also a David FARMER, son of Edmund and Ann, baptised > 14/2/1728/9 > > born 13/2/1728/29 > > These are all Bermondsey St mary mag and notice the links to the sea > > (Captain, ropemaker) > > Casting my eye quickly down the list of Farmers, they could mostly be > > connected to the sea, ropemakers, Mariners, Captain, carpenter (could > be > > ships carpenters) > > 4. There are three Asquiths in Hoseleydown, children of > Phillip......and > > interestingly, there is a Susannah wigmore born Horsleydown, St Johns > to A > > William Thomas and Susanna WIGMORE, bapt 11/4/1798 and born 20/3/1798 > - WT > > was a biscuit maker. > > 5. You still need the marriage to really clinch the birth hon...... > > But I hope this helps a little. > > Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> For years, I've been looking for the marriage of my gggrandfather > Edward > >> Thomas FARMER to Susannah ? - he > >> came from a Bermondsey (Surrey) family and there is a connection (his > >> mourning ring has been handed down as a > >> family heirloom) through Susanna with Amos ASQUITH, who was either > her > >> father or grandfather, a Bermondsey > >> brewer who died in 1793, so I disregarded this marriage in the IGI, > >> thinking > >> that Kent was unlikely. > >> > >> EDWARD THOMAS FARMER > >> Marriages: > >> Spouse: SUSANNA WIGMORE > >> 12 MAR 1820 Lee, Kent, England > >> M016504 > >> > >> However, browsing through the Ancestry LMA collection, I discovered > that > >> Lee > >> was in the Hundred of Lewisham > >> (only about 6 miles from Bermondsey) and some of the St Margaret's > records > >> are in the database. The > >> marriages, however, end at 1813. My local FHC has just broken its > only > >> fiche reader (wasn't me, honest!), so > >> getting the film isn't an option at the moment. > >> > >> I'm hoping the marriage entry will give Edward's parish as St Mary > >> Magdalene, Bermondsey. I've Googled and > >> there seem to be some transcriptions in the Lewisham library but not > for > >> the > >> period I am interested in. > >> I'd be grateful for any ideas as to where I can find out the details > of > >> the > >> marriage; their first child was > >> born in March 1821, so it fits. > >> > >> Anne > >> South Australia > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus.

Thanks, Pam - I have the FARMERs pretty well sorted in Bermondsey, I just can't find the marriage of Edward Thomas. The Farmers were ropemakers/mariners/carpenters; the Edward Thomas baptised in 1796 is him (he?). I'll investigate the Susannah Wigmore 1798 baptism - the family bible has her dying in 1872 'in her 75th year' so that might fit. What I really need is the 1820 marriage! And an ASQUITH/WIGMORE marriage would be nice too ;) Anne pam hillier wrote: > Hi Anne > No Marriage that I can find by other means but I have not got the marriage > cd......only the baptisms. > Just a thing of note Anne, Bermondsey is being transcribed by the West > Surrey FHG not Kent. > 4 Asquiths on the CD > 13 Wigmores and a swag of FARMERS, loads in Bermondsey. > lee is 3.6 miles from Bermondsey according to Parloc Parish locator. > BUT > There is an Edward Thomas FARMER baptism St Mary Magdalene Bermondsey > 25/9/1796 to Nicholas and Ann (ropemaker), birth date 22/8/1796 (making him > 24 at marriage) I wonder if this is him. > others of lesser note..... > > 2. There's one Asquith In St Mary Mag, Bermondsey, Bapt Thomas Gibson > Asquith son of David and Susanna, captain, 29/9/1786 born 6/9/1786 > Susanna???? > 3. There's also a David FARMER, son of Edmund and Ann, baptised 14/2/1728/9 > born 13/2/1728/29 > These are all Bermondsey St mary mag and notice the links to the sea > (Captain, ropemaker) > Casting my eye quickly down the list of Farmers, they could mostly be > connected to the sea, ropemakers, Mariners, Captain, carpenter (could be > ships carpenters) > 4. There are three Asquiths in Hoseleydown, children of Phillip......and > interestingly, there is a Susannah wigmore born Horsleydown, St Johns to A > William Thomas and Susanna WIGMORE, bapt 11/4/1798 and born 20/3/1798 - WT > was a biscuit maker. > 5. You still need the marriage to really clinch the birth hon...... > But I hope this helps a little. > Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > > > > > > >> >> For years, I've been looking for the marriage of my gggrandfather Edward >> Thomas FARMER to Susannah ? - he >> came from a Bermondsey (Surrey) family and there is a connection (his >> mourning ring has been handed down as a >> family heirloom) through Susanna with Amos ASQUITH, who was either her >> father or grandfather, a Bermondsey >> brewer who died in 1793, so I disregarded this marriage in the IGI, >> thinking >> that Kent was unlikely. >> >> EDWARD THOMAS FARMER >> Marriages: >> Spouse: SUSANNA WIGMORE >> 12 MAR 1820 Lee, Kent, England >> M016504 >> >> However, browsing through the Ancestry LMA collection, I discovered that >> Lee >> was in the Hundred of Lewisham >> (only about 6 miles from Bermondsey) and some of the St Margaret's records >> are in the database. The >> marriages, however, end at 1813. My local FHC has just broken its only >> fiche reader (wasn't me, honest!), so >> getting the film isn't an option at the moment. >> >> I'm hoping the marriage entry will give Edward's parish as St Mary >> Magdalene, Bermondsey. I've Googled and >> there seem to be some transcriptions in the Lewisham library but not for >> the >> period I am interested in. >> I'd be grateful for any ideas as to where I can find out the details of >> the >> marriage; their first child was >> born in March 1821, so it fits. >> >> Anne >> South Australia >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Anne Chambers wrote: > > Thanks, Peter - yes, that's his baptism in 1796 - but, frustratingly, no > marriage at St Mary Magdalene. > > Anne > > Peter wrote: >> Anne, >> >> I don't have the necessary PR but a quick search at ParishRegister.com >> does >> show a Edward Thomas Farmer as a hit on the register for St Mary >> Magdalene >> (Bermondsey) between 1782& 1812. The detail is only available with >> payment. >> >> HTH >> >> Peter >>

Peter wrote: > Anne, > > I don't have the necessary PR but a quick search at ParishRegister.com does > show a Edward Thomas Farmer as a hit on the register for St Mary Magdalene > (Bermondsey) between 1782& 1812. The detail is only available with payment. > > HTH > > Peter > > For years, I've been looking for the marriage of my gggrandfather Edward > Thomas FARMER to Susannah ? - he > came from a Bermondsey (Surrey) family and there is a connection (his > mourning ring has been handed down as a > family heirloom) through Susanna with Amos ASQUITH, who was either her > father or grandfather, a Bermondsey > brewer who died in 1793, so I disregarded this marriage in the IGI, thinking > that Kent was unlikely. > > EDWARD THOMAS FARMER > Marriages: > Spouse: SUSANNA WIGMORE > 12 MAR 1820 Lee, Kent, England > M016504 > > However, browsing through the Ancestry LMA collection, I discovered that Lee > was in the Hundred of Lewisham > (only about 6 miles from Bermondsey) and some of the St Margaret's records > are in the database. The > marriages, however, end at 1813. My local FHC has just broken its only > fiche reader (wasn't me, honest!), so > getting the film isn't an option at the moment. > > I'm hoping the marriage entry will give Edward's parish as St Mary > Magdalene, Bermondsey. I've Googled and > there seem to be some transcriptions in the Lewisham library but not for the > period I am interested in. > I'd be grateful for any ideas as to where I can find out the details of the > marriage; their first child was > born in March 1821, so it fits. > > Anne > South Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Anne No Marriage that I can find by other means but I have not got the marriage cd......only the baptisms. Just a thing of note Anne, Bermondsey is being transcribed by the West Surrey FHG not Kent. 4 Asquiths on the CD 13 Wigmores and a swag of FARMERS, loads in Bermondsey. lee is 3.6 miles from Bermondsey according to Parloc Parish locator. BUT There is an Edward Thomas FARMER baptism St Mary Magdalene Bermondsey 25/9/1796 to Nicholas and Ann (ropemaker), birth date 22/8/1796 (making him 24 at marriage) I wonder if this is him. others of lesser note..... 2. There's one Asquith In St Mary Mag, Bermondsey, Bapt Thomas Gibson Asquith son of David and Susanna, captain, 29/9/1786 born 6/9/1786 Susanna???? 3. There's also a David FARMER, son of Edmund and Ann, baptised 14/2/1728/9 born 13/2/1728/29 These are all Bermondsey St mary mag and notice the links to the sea (Captain, ropemaker) Casting my eye quickly down the list of Farmers, they could mostly be connected to the sea, ropemakers, Mariners, Captain, carpenter (could be ships carpenters) 4. There are three Asquiths in Hoseleydown, children of Phillip......and interestingly, there is a Susannah wigmore born Horsleydown, St Johns to A William Thomas and Susanna WIGMORE, bapt 11/4/1798 and born 20/3/1798 - WT was a biscuit maker. 5. You still need the marriage to really clinch the birth hon...... But I hope this helps a little. Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > > For years, I've been looking for the marriage of my gggrandfather Edward > Thomas FARMER to Susannah ? - he > came from a Bermondsey (Surrey) family and there is a connection (his > mourning ring has been handed down as a > family heirloom) through Susanna with Amos ASQUITH, who was either her > father or grandfather, a Bermondsey > brewer who died in 1793, so I disregarded this marriage in the IGI, > thinking > that Kent was unlikely. > > EDWARD THOMAS FARMER > Marriages: > Spouse: SUSANNA WIGMORE > 12 MAR 1820 Lee, Kent, England > M016504 > > However, browsing through the Ancestry LMA collection, I discovered that > Lee > was in the Hundred of Lewisham > (only about 6 miles from Bermondsey) and some of the St Margaret's records > are in the database. The > marriages, however, end at 1813. My local FHC has just broken its only > fiche reader (wasn't me, honest!), so > getting the film isn't an option at the moment. > > I'm hoping the marriage entry will give Edward's parish as St Mary > Magdalene, Bermondsey. I've Googled and > there seem to be some transcriptions in the Lewisham library but not for > the > period I am interested in. > I'd be grateful for any ideas as to where I can find out the details of > the > marriage; their first child was > born in March 1821, so it fits. > > Anne > South Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For years, I've been looking for the marriage of my gggrandfather Edward Thomas FARMER to Susannah ? - he came from a Bermondsey (Surrey) family and there is a connection (his mourning ring has been handed down as a family heirloom) through Susanna with Amos ASQUITH, who was either her father or grandfather, a Bermondsey brewer who died in 1793, so I disregarded this marriage in the IGI, thinking that Kent was unlikely. EDWARD THOMAS FARMER Marriages: Spouse: SUSANNA WIGMORE 12 MAR 1820 Lee, Kent, England M016504 However, browsing through the Ancestry LMA collection, I discovered that Lee was in the Hundred of Lewisham (only about 6 miles from Bermondsey) and some of the St Margaret's records are in the database. The marriages, however, end at 1813. My local FHC has just broken its only fiche reader (wasn't me, honest!), so getting the film isn't an option at the moment. I'm hoping the marriage entry will give Edward's parish as St Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey. I've Googled and there seem to be some transcriptions in the Lewisham library but not for the period I am interested in. I'd be grateful for any ideas as to where I can find out the details of the marriage; their first child was born in March 1821, so it fits. Anne South Australia

The registers for St Margaret Lee at this period are held at Lewisham Local History and Archives Centre. http://tinyurl.com/ydrfjhl HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Chambers EDWARD THOMAS FARMER Marriages: Spouse: SUSANNA WIGMORE 12 MAR 1820 Lee, Kent, England M016504 I'd be grateful for any ideas as to where I can find out the details of the marriage; their first child was born in March 1821, so it fits.

Anne, I don't have the necessary PR but a quick search at ParishRegister.com does show a Edward Thomas Farmer as a hit on the register for St Mary Magdalene (Bermondsey) between 1782 & 1812. The detail is only available with payment. HTH Peter For years, I've been looking for the marriage of my gggrandfather Edward Thomas FARMER to Susannah ? - he came from a Bermondsey (Surrey) family and there is a connection (his mourning ring has been handed down as a family heirloom) through Susanna with Amos ASQUITH, who was either her father or grandfather, a Bermondsey brewer who died in 1793, so I disregarded this marriage in the IGI, thinking that Kent was unlikely. EDWARD THOMAS FARMER Marriages: Spouse: SUSANNA WIGMORE 12 MAR 1820 Lee, Kent, England M016504 However, browsing through the Ancestry LMA collection, I discovered that Lee was in the Hundred of Lewisham (only about 6 miles from Bermondsey) and some of the St Margaret's records are in the database. The marriages, however, end at 1813. My local FHC has just broken its only fiche reader (wasn't me, honest!), so getting the film isn't an option at the moment. I'm hoping the marriage entry will give Edward's parish as St Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey. I've Googled and there seem to be some transcriptions in the Lewisham library but not for the period I am interested in. I'd be grateful for any ideas as to where I can find out the details of the marriage; their first child was born in March 1821, so it fits. Anne South Australia