Thank you all with your help He was only given 1 month, so no transportation regards Lynne

I started tracing BELSEY only yesterday - on behalf of my Uncle - and I have just seen another post regarding them I thought I would add what I have so far My uncle was adopted by Walter Ernest BELSEY and his wife Sybil, I have all of Walter's brothers and sisters, I found Walter BELSEY's father and he is Thomas H BELSEY born in Ramsgate in 1861 and he married Emily Jane ALLEN So if anyone out there has any further info that would be great I have been tracing my own tree since 1986, and I was asked my cousin on Sunday to help and found this list very helpful especially with my QUESTED/ COLEMAN puzzle! So thanks again Karen Peterborough UK

Following on from Diana's list of Mary Belsey sightings and just to add to the confusion. I saw the reference to the Mary who was born Coldred. The Coldred PRs show an Isaac Belsey bap 20 Jul 1755 son of John & Ann Belsey. Don't know if you have this one Ruth! The only Mary Belsey I can see baptised in Coldred around 1787 is Mary dau of Henry & Mary of Coldred Court. Mary b 5 May bap 27 May 1787 Coldred. So this appears to tie up with Mary No. 3 on Diana's list, although you say she is not the one who married James Terry. The only Belsey baptism in Coldred for parents John & Elizabeth Belsey is John Belsey bap 2 Dec 1744. This says John was of Shepherdwell. Sue -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dianadiluca@aol.com Sent: 12 February 2010 06:06 To: KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Belsey family hI According to various family trees on Ancestry: Mary Belsey born abt 1787 Kent Died 29 Dec 1883 Kent Married 1 Feb 1806 to James Terry. Parents John Belsey and Elizabeth Vanson Mary Belsey born 5 May 1787 Coldred died 1858 Wingham married 1 Feb 1806 Kent to James Terry. Parents Isaac Belsey and Ann Kemp Mary Belsey born 5 May 1787 Kent died 1883 Kent married 1 Feb Wingham Kent to James Terry. Parents Henry Belsey and Mary Friend Mary Belsey born 1788 Northbourne, Kent - Parents Isaac Belsey and Sarah Adams. Mary Belsey born 31 Jan 1789 Kent died 1884 Eastry, Kent married James Terry Mary Belsey born 31 Jan 1789 Dover, Kent died Mar 1884 Eastry married 1806 Kent to James Terry A lot of conflictions! Regards Diana Re: I have a brick wall that is driving me nuts. To those BELSEY researchers out there in the big wide world of cyberspace please help me. Many years ago a wonderful by the name of woman Margaret BELSEY from Kent, who has alas since passed on, gave me and I do know a number of you fellow BELSEY researchers charts showing our lines back to Thomas BELSEY & Joan HUCKING. For near on 20 years I believed that I was connected through John BELSEY & Elizabeth VANSON( according to Margaret's chart), supposedly through their daughter Mary BELSEY whom she said had married James TERRY. This fact has now been found to be untrue. Yes a Mary BELSEY did marry my James TERRY in 1806 but her parents were Isaac BELSEY & Ann KEMP. They married 10-Oct-1776, in Ickham. This Isaac BELSEY was born abt 1751 and died 15 Feb 1840 in Rowling, aged 89. I have his Deat certificate which shows a Charlotte BELSEY as the informant. Charlotte was married to Isaac's son John. What I need to establish is who were Isaac's parents and where was he born? His wife Ann KEMP was born in Northbourne but as for Isaac I haven't a clue. I have looked at all the Isaac's in my tree and there are quite a number of them but alas none in or around 1751. If any BELSEY researcher has info on my elusive Isaac I would so appreciate hearing from you. Thanking you in advance, Ruth New Zealand -- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hI According to various family trees on Ancestry: Mary Belsey born abt 1787 Kent Died 29 Dec 1883 Kent Married 1 Feb 1806 to James Terry. Parents John Belsey and Elizabeth Vanson Mary Belsey born 5 May 1787 Coldred died 1858 Wingham married 1 Feb 1806 Kent to James Terry. Parents Isaac Belsey and Ann Kemp Mary Belsey born 5 May 1787 Kent died 1883 Kent married 1 Feb Wingham Kent to James Terry. Parents Henry Belsey and Mary Friend Mary Belsey born 1788 Northbourne, Kent - Parents Isaac Belsey and Sarah Adams. Mary Belsey born 31 Jan 1789 Kent died 1884 Eastry, Kent married James Terry Mary Belsey born 31 Jan 1789 Dover, Kent died Mar 1884 Eastry married 1806 Kent to James Terry A lot of conflictions! Regards Diana Re: I have a brick wall that is driving me nuts. To those BELSEY researchers out there in the big wide world of cyberspace please help me. Many years ago a wonderful by the name of woman Margaret BELSEY from Kent, who has alas since passed on, gave me and I do know a number of you fellow BELSEY researchers charts showing our lines back to Thomas BELSEY & Joan HUCKING. For near on 20 years I believed that I was connected through John BELSEY & Elizabeth VANSON( according to Margaret's chart), supposedly through their daughter Mary BELSEY whom she said had married James TERRY. This fact has now been found to be untrue. Yes a Mary BELSEY did marry my James TERRY in 1806 but her parents were Isaac BELSEY & Ann KEMP. They married 10-Oct-1776, in Ickham. This Isaac BELSEY was born abt 1751 and died 15 Feb 1840 in Rowling, aged 89. I have his Deat certificate which shows a Charlotte BELSEY as the informant. Charlotte was married to Isaac's son John. What I need to establish is who were Isaac's parents and where was he born? His wife Ann KEMP was born in Northbourne but as for Isaac I haven't a clue. I have looked at all the Isaac's in my tree and there are quite a number of them but alas none in or around 1751. If any BELSEY researcher has info on my elusive Isaac I would so appreciate hearing from you. Thanking you in advance, Ruth New Zealand --

Request Please. New to the List. i would appreciate help. Researching LUCAS name. Looking for a marriage Francis LUCAS to Ann JAMES possible at St Mary's LEWISHAM. ( Kent or Middx have seen both) Their daughter Sarah was bapt. there April 2 1820 Francis LUCAS a Wine Merchant from Blackheath Assume Ann JAMES came from the area where her dau was christened.... T I A betty(oz)

Hi Lynne On 11 February 2010 17:12, <croftlynne@aol.com> wrote: > Can anyone help with a look up in the Criminal Registers on Ancestry for a JAMES TRIGHURST  the trial date is Kent 1830, and he was imprisoned. > I have just searched and found the following: Ancestry Transcription: Name: James Trighurst Date of Trial: Michaelmas 1830 Trial Year: 1830 Location of Trial: Kent, England Sentence: Imprisonment Source Citation: Class: HO 27; Piece: 39; Page: 357 My Transcription of the image: Criminal Register of Kent - Page: 357 Name: James Trighurst When Tried: Michalmas Session 1830 Crime: Larceny Sentence: Imprisonment - 1 Month Regards Kevin (England)

Betty, Lewisham was in Kent before 1889, then in London. It's one of several locations that Ancestry have recorded incorrectly in their databases as being in Middlesex. While your couple may have married at St Mary Lewisham, the marriage registers were damaged by a fire at the church in the 1830s, and only fragments survive for the relevant period. So your best hope is that they married somewhere else! I wouldn't assume that the mother came from Lewisham on the basis of the daughter's baptism. Do you have any of these people in a census? For a better chance of getting some useful help, can you tell us more of what you know, and what the source of your information is? HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of betty Looking for a marriage Francis LUCAS to Ann JAMES possible at St Mary's LEWISHAM. ( Kent or Middx have seen both) Their daughter Sarah was bapt. there April 2 1820 Francis LUCAS a Wine Merchant from Blackheath Assume Ann JAMES came from the area where her dau was christened.... T I A betty(oz)

>From London Evening Post ( London, England ), Thursday, April 12, 1739; Issue 1781. A few Days ago died William RIDER of Burston Park in Kent, Brother to the late Sir Barnham RIDER, Knt. one of the greatest Hop-Planters in that County. On Sunday last died suddenly, Charles FAGG, Esq., one of his Majesty's Justices of the Peace for the County of Kent. He was Grandson of Sir John FAGG, of Wiston in Sussex, Bart. by a Daughter of MOTLEY of Glyad, and Cousin to the present Sir Robert FAGG, Bart. Member for Steyning. He had the Misfortune some time ago to receive a violent Contusion in his Head by a Fall from his Horse, in going from his Seat at Moystole to Canterbury, which Fall, 'tis thought, occasion'd his Death.

Hi Barbara Unfortunately FindMyPast reiterated recently that those who have a sub cannot do look-ups for others. It's against their terms and conditions. Sorry Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Lewis" <lewisroots@comcast.net> To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 2:02 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] help with 1911 census > Is there someone who has a subscription to Find my Past who can do a > lookup > for me....I do have the entry from the 1911 index that I need....I'd > really > appreciate it > > Barbara L. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 2/11/2010 5:49:47 A.M. Central Standard Time, bkrhodes@bigpond.net.au writes: Request Please. New to the List. i would appreciate help. Researching LUCAS name. Looking for a marriage Francis LUCAS to Ann JAMES possible at St Mary's LEWISHAM. ( Kent or Middx have seen both) Their daughter Sarah was bapt. there April 2 1820 Francis LUCAS a Wine Merchant from Blackheath Assume Ann JAMES came from the area where her dau was christened.... T I A betty(oz) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message I am very interested in the Lucas family. A family of a similar name arrived very early in the colonial Maryland, USA. In fact, there is a Kent County, Maryland, founded in 1642, named for the English Kent County. The county seat is Chestertown. The Maryland Lucas family intermarried into the Swan, Hughes, and Rice families, as well as my Crago family. Are the Swan, Hughes, and Rice families also represented in the Kent County, England? Regards, Steade

Dear listers Can anyone help with a look up in the Criminal Registers on Ancestry for a JAMES TRIGHURST the trial date is Kent 1830, and he was imprisoned. My membership does not cover anymore, and the full sub I have on FMP does not have this information. The TRIGHURST name is missing in 1841, but I have seen correspondence saying that a certain James Trighurst went out to Canada, where a son died, but they obviously returned to Kent. They were from the Rainham, Strood area. Thank you for any help regards Lynne

>From Daily Courant ( London, England ), Wednesday, December 30, 1719; Issue 5675. By THO. WESTON, Teacher of Mathematicks, to his Majesty's Office of Ordnance, and Teacher of Grammar and Mathematicks to the Royal Hospital Boys at Greenwich, at the Academy in Greenwich in Kent, young Noblemen and Gentlemen are in the handsomest manner boarded, and in the most rational Way, and at reasonable Rates, taught Writing, Arithmetick, Merchants Accompts, or the Italian Method of Book-keeping, Foreign Exchanges, the Mathematicks in English, Latin and French, Drawing, Latin, Greek, Hebrew, French, ( to Foreigners English ) Fencing, Musick, and Dancing. N.B. He has provided an excellent Apparatus of Instruments, ( Geometrical, Geographical, Astronomical, and Philosophical ) and for the farther Advantage of those under his Care, has frequent Courses of Philosophical Experiment, and reads explanatory Lectures concerning them. He also reads in his Schools Lectures of Geometry, Geography, and Astronomy three Days a Week. Note there are employ'd in his Schools, and constantly residing in his House, three Grammar Masters, three Mathematical Masters, and a French-Master, the other Masters giving their Attendance three Days in a Week.

A long shot but given that ages on death certificate are not always accurate, there is this possibility Births Jun 1901 Coleman Edith Olive Fulham 1a 220 The IGI has Edith <Quested> Christening: 21 JUL 1872 Luddesdown, Kent, England Parents: Father: Frank Quested Family Mother: Rosetta Jane Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: C151013 1813 - 1885 It might be worth getting the 1901 birth certificate to see if her mother is Edith nee Quested. Anne South Australia K Scott wrote: > Hi > > I am new to list but not researching family trees which I have been doing > since 1986. > > I am looking for info on > Edith Olive QUESTED otherwise known as Edith Olive COLEMAN > Born according to her death cert in September 1895 in Marylebone - so far I > have been unable to find her birth > Edith died in Cranbrook in 1969 > The informant was Lawrence George MABEY who said he was her son in law, so I > checked him out and he married Phyllis A WILSON in Camberwell in 1953 > > Now its gets into a right tangle! > Phyllis WILSON was born in 1931 and was registed as Phyllis Wilson (mother > Quested or Coleman) Phyllis Quested ( mother QUESTED) and Phyllis Coleman ( > Mother Quested) > Her Husband Lawrence was born in Croyden in 1926 and his mother is given as > QUESTED > > I can find no marriage of a QUESTED to a COLEMAN or a QUESTED to MABEY other > than the one mention > > Any help or ideas will be great > > Thanks > Karen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Is there someone who has a subscription to Find my Past who can do a lookup for me....I do have the entry from the 1911 index that I need....I'd really appreciate it Barbara L.

Karen, There is a possible birth on FreeBMD - Edith Emily COLEMAN Marylebone Dec qtr 1896. HTH Peter Hi I am new to list but not researching family trees which I have been doing since 1986. I am looking for info on Edith Olive QUESTED otherwise known as Edith Olive COLEMAN Born according to her death cert in September 1895 in Marylebone - so far I have been unable to find her birth Edith died in Cranbrook in 1969 The informant was Lawrence George MABEY who said he was her son in law, so I checked him out and he married Phyllis A WILSON in Camberwell in 1953 Now its gets into a right tangle! Phyllis WILSON was born in 1931 and was registed as Phyllis Wilson (mother Quested or Coleman) Phyllis Quested ( mother QUESTED) and Phyllis Coleman ( Mother Quested) Her Husband Lawrence was born in Croyden in 1926 and his mother is given as QUESTED I can find no marriage of a QUESTED to a COLEMAN or a QUESTED to MABEY other than the one mention Any help or ideas will be great Thanks Karen

Hi Anne Thanks again But tried that one and is no connection Karen

Seems to me that some doctors would have recorded signs and symptoms, while others would attribute a cause. For that matter, just how many deaths would really have had a doctor on hand.. One of my gt grandmothers died of 'decay of age' while another had a great list of specific causes. Dick Fowler

Hi I am new to list but not researching family trees which I have been doing since 1986. I am looking for info on Edith Olive QUESTED otherwise known as Edith Olive COLEMAN Born according to her death cert in September 1895 in Marylebone - so far I have been unable to find her birth Edith died in Cranbrook in 1969 The informant was Lawrence George MABEY who said he was her son in law, so I checked him out and he married Phyllis A WILSON in Camberwell in 1953 Now its gets into a right tangle! Phyllis WILSON was born in 1931 and was registed as Phyllis Wilson (mother Quested or Coleman) Phyllis Quested ( mother QUESTED) and Phyllis Coleman ( Mother Quested) Her Husband Lawrence was born in Croyden in 1926 and his mother is given as QUESTED I can find no marriage of a QUESTED to a COLEMAN or a QUESTED to MABEY other than the one mention Any help or ideas will be great Thanks Karen

Robert and Stella, I agree Robert, it is important to make copiuos notes and I have even given my reasonings for various things. My Legacy programme has a wonderful list of events, nearly everything is covered, including cause of death and a notes section attached. You can specify whether this is printed or gedcomed etc....... Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia Stella, You are right. State the facts. However I would like to add a proviso, based upon what genealogy programmes have to offer in logging references, notes etc against various facts, such as BMD events. There is normally the facility to quote a source. Some programmes will offer standard references to sources which is OK to a point. There should be a system where you can specify the way in which you record sources. For example, I have the UK censuses listed as: Census - 1841, Census - 1851, etc up to Census - 1911. I have used a standard method for recording headings, and then when I want to add a census as the source of a particular find, I will call up the heading, and enter the detail, such as the Film / page / folio number for that particular find. I have tried to work out a consistent approach to building up source headings, and this has paid off quite well. Now, I will transcribe information from the find in the standard fields offered up by the programme for the source, exactly as written down. My programme has a field which states "Text as written" into which I will transcribe the information about the item.

Two of my ancestors (husband and wife) died in the cholera epidemic of 1846, within ten days of each other. The wife died before it was realised that this was a cholera epidemic and the cause of death was given as 'natural congestion of the lungs'. When her husband died the cause of death was given unambiuously - 'cholera'. Brenda