Hi John, I live in Australia, and when in primary school, long tots were, as Suzannah suggested, a mental mathematics activity, and the exercise was as long as the teacher wanted it to be by - verbally saying "plus this; minus that; times that, etc." You only wrote the final answer down - probably after about 5 mins or so. It sounds like the Head Teacher is commenting on a teacher's work, and he would have liked to have seen evidence of this activity occurring. I guess the long tots should be prepared so as to (a) cover the necessary mathematical processes at a particular year level & (b) know what the correct answer is at the end of the exercise. I was doing this activity in the late 1960s, so it certainly stood the test of time! Estelle > From: john.newport1@ntlworld.com > To: KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:47:25 +0000 > Subject: [KENT-ENG] "Long Tots" > > I came across the following entry, made by the head teacher. in an old > school log book (about the year 1880) - can anyone enlighten me as to what > the words "Long Tots" mean, please? > > > > "No cards or apparatus for "Long Tots" being provided, although applied for, > I fear this branch will be very weak" > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ If it exists, you'll find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/

John Newport wrote: > Regarding my previous question on "Long Tots", I'm sorry, but I came across > the following words, further down the book, and too late to add to my > previous email, otherwise I'd have included it in that one. Apologies all > round. > > > > What is, or was, an "Organizing Visitor", please? It's still to do with the > old school log book and he or she is mentioned several times. I've searched > the Internet for both this and the "Long Tots" but, this time, it's let me > down! I suspect he was what we in Victoria used to call "The Inspector", an irregular visitor to check on teachers' performance and give advice. Of value to new inexperienced teachers, but disliked by old incompetent ones. Brian Fleming Melbourne

Hi Parloc is excellent. A very nice feature is the abstracted map which shows parishes shown around your target parish. Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:59:43 -0700 From: "Helen Carlisle" <helencarlisle@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Kent villages travelling distances Google for "Parloc", the Parish Locator. It is a free download where you can enter one parish anywhere in the country and check how far it is from another parish, or what parishes are within a certain area. HTH, Regards, Helen

Hello Philippa, At 09:19 PM 2/13/2010, Philippa Cooper wrote: >Jim, this is a long shot, but I need to tell you that around that time one >of my ancestors, who came from Bristol, was based in Dover as he captain of >a Revenue Cruiser, or in modern day parlance, a Customs boat. I only >mention this because he was married in Dover and appeared to be well out of >his territory, until I discovered what his occupation was. As I say it's a >long shot, but you may want to follow it up. >Good luck >Philippa in Adelaide, SA Thank you for that. It is worth looking into. There is only one person by the name of PIPPEY in Melbourne as far as I know. I have met his sister and brother-in-law when they visited this area about 5yeras ago. Seems most of the descendants in that area were female, and adopted their husbands' name, so the PIPPEY surname has about died out. Thanks again. Jim

Tots were long lists of figures to be summed - i e, long tots Suzannah ________________________________ From: John Newport <john.newport1@ntlworld.com> To: KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 13 February, 2010 20:47:25 Subject: [KENT-ENG] "Long Tots" I came across the following entry, made by the head teacher. in an old school log book (about the year 1880) - can anyone enlighten me as to what the words "Long Tots" mean, please? "No cards or apparatus for "Long Tots" being provided, although applied for, I fear this branch will be very weak" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Regarding my previous question on "Long Tots", I'm sorry, but I came across the following words, further down the book, and too late to add to my previous email, otherwise I'd have included it in that one. Apologies all round. What is, or was, an "Organizing Visitor", please? It's still to do with the old school log book and he or she is mentioned several times. I've searched the Internet for both this and the "Long Tots" but, this time, it's let me down! .

I came across the following entry, made by the head teacher. in an old school log book (about the year 1880) - can anyone enlighten me as to what the words "Long Tots" mean, please? "No cards or apparatus for "Long Tots" being provided, although applied for, I fear this branch will be very weak"

Google for "Parloc", the Parish Locator. It is a free download where you can enter one parish anywhere in the country and check how far it is from another parish, or what parishes are within a certain area. HTH, Regards, Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynda's Lot" <lydige@gmail.com> To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 5:39 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] Kent villages travelling distances > Good afternoon. Would anyone have a road atlas or map that shows the > mileages between all the Kent villages from whichever one you're in, > set out in a grid format if you know what I mean? I found one years > ago but when I enlarge it, it's unreadable. My ancestors lived in > neighbouring parishes but when it comes to BMDs sometimes they're in a > different place. I want to know how far they had to travel. I'd > really appreciate a scan of one, if that's possible. > > Cheers, Lynda in New Zealand > http://sites.google.com/site/lyndaslot/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Don't know if either of the following will be helpful http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/ http://www.kent-opc.org/regdistricts.html At 04:39 PM 13/02/2010, Lynda's Lot wrote: >Good afternoon. Would anyone have a road atlas or map that shows the >mileages between all the Kent villages from whichever one you're in, >set out in a grid format if you know what I mean? I found one years >ago but when I enlarge it, it's unreadable. My ancestors lived in >neighbouring parishes but when it comes to BMDs sometimes they're in a >different place. I want to know how far they had to travel. I'd >really appreciate a scan of one, if that's possible. > >Cheers, Lynda in New Zealand >http://sites.google.com/site/lyndaslot/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Estelle, Memories - I remember it well - didn't really help me a lot - I fantasized through maths. eagerly awaiting history and anything else - My brothers were a whiz then and now - but perhaps inherited the ability from our parents - as well at school. Much better than having to depend on machines. Cheers, Stella At 04:31 PM 13/02/2010, Estelle Daniels wrote: >Hi John, > >I live in Australia, and when in primary school, long tots were, as >Suzannah suggested, a mental mathematics activity, and the exercise >was as long as the teacher wanted it to be by - verbally saying >"plus this; minus that; times that, etc." You only wrote the final >answer down - probably after about 5 mins or so. > > > >It sounds like the Head Teacher is commenting on a teacher's work, >and he would have liked to have seen evidence of this activity >occurring. I guess the long tots should be prepared so as to (a) >cover the necessary mathematical processes at a particular year >level & (b) know what the correct answer is at the end of the >exercise. I was doing this activity in the late 1960s, so it >certainly stood the test of time! > > > >Estelle > > > From: john.newport1@ntlworld.com > > To: KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:47:25 +0000 > > Subject: [KENT-ENG] "Long Tots" > > > > I came across the following entry, made by the head teacher. in an old > > school log book (about the year 1880) - can anyone enlighten me as to what > > the words "Long Tots" mean, please? > > > > > > > > "No cards or apparatus for "Long Tots" being provided, although > applied for, > > I fear this branch will be very weak" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >_________________________________________________________________ >If it exists, you'll find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site >http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, At 02:48 PM 2/13/2010, Dianadiluca@aol.com wrote: >According to Family Search Anna Pippy married Nathan Picot >24 DEC 1840 St Johns Nf, , Kent, England >She died 18 Sep 1900 That one has always confused us - the mention of Newfoundland and Kent together. >Clemente Pepy born: >14 OCT 1584 Margate, Kent, England > >There are a number of Pepy, Poppie, Poppy etc in Kent area, especially Dover. Because of the strong legend that they were Huguenot, French spellings have been considered. The Channel Islands have been scoured as well, but nothing definite. If they were ever there, we either don't recognize the early form of the name, or they came and went between censuses. <snip> There are a few family trees for Pippys who were born Scotland, went to Newfoundland and died in England. One has a lovely photo of a young gentleman on there in Newfoundland. He died in WW2. So take a look at Ancestry too. A possible Scotland connection is new. We found a PEPPY in Ireland, but again no other info at the moment. We do know that Huguenots went to Ireland just after 1066, and one of the oldest Huguenot churches outside France and London still exists. We couldn't get anywhere there either. Many Thanks for the info and advice. Jim

Hello, At 02:43 PM 2/13/2010, Sue Slater wrote: >Hi Jim > >Looking at the River CMB CD he seems to have been a stray PIPPY. CD gives >his age as 44 and date of burial 13 Jun 1819. Nothing else I'm afraid and >no marriages or baptisms for any PIPPYS. That answers that. I couldn't find any other references either, and suspected a solo event, for whatever reason. That burial was on Find My Past, taken from the NBI. >I see a few Philip Pippys in Newfoundland on familysearch, which I expect >you have seen. Yes. We have gleaned just about all we can in Newfoundland. We have traced back to 5 brothers, but nothing to connect them to except `Unknown' parents. The oldest we have was born 1754 in Newfoundland. We have many descendants documented. The given names George and William are common in Newfoundland, which has made it quite a chore to keep them separated! I mentioned Bristol, where the spelling was PIPPEY, but 2 generations there were about the early to mid-1800s, so no connection readily found. Bristol is the likely port of departure for the fishing fleets. Many Thanks for your help. Jim

Hi Jim, According to Family Search Anna Pippy married Nathan Picot 24 DEC 1840 St Johns Nf, , Kent, EnglandShe died 18 Sep 1900 Clemente Pepy born: 14 OCT 1584 Margate, Kent, England There are a number of Pepy, Poppie, Poppy etc in Kent area, especially Dover. Take a look on Family Search There are also lots of Pippys on Ancestry - Pape seems to be the usual one for Kent area. No Pippys in Kent though apart from one in Greenwich which is nowhere near Dover. I couldn't find a Philip Pippy buried in Kent. There are a few family trees for Pippys who were born Scotland, went to Newfoundland and died in England. One has a lovely photo of a young gentleman on there in Newfoundland. He died in WW2. So take a look at Ancestry too. Re: Hello List, I have been researching the PIPPY family for years from about 1754 and later in Newfoundland, but have been unable in over 30 years to make a connection back to the U.K. or the Channel Islands. A cousin has just found a burial on Find My Past for one Philip PIPPY, buried 13 June 1819 at St. Peter and St. Paul in River Parish (Dover). This the first instance of anyone by that surname in Kent. We are wondering if this was a solo event, or if there was family living in the area. Is there any way of determining if there are others of that surname buried there? We have yet to try the censuses for the area. Known variants of the surname are PIPPEY (known around Bristol), and PEPPY (found around London and Cornwall). Any help or ideas welcome. Jim Roberts New Brunswick, Canada (PIPPY was my mother's maiden name).

Hi Jim Looking at the River CMB CD he seems to have been a stray PIPPY. CD gives his age as 44 and date of burial 13 Jun 1819. Nothing else I'm afraid and no marriages or baptisms for any PIPPYS. I see a few Philip Pippys in Newfoundland on familysearch, which I expect you have seen. Regards Sue -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James E. Roberts Sent: 13 February 2010 12:38 To: KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com Subject: [KENT-ENG] PIPPY burial at River Parish Hello List, I have been researching the PIPPY family for years from about 1754 and later in Newfoundland, but have been unable in over 30 years to make a connection back to the U.K. or the Channel Islands. A cousin has just found a burial on Find My Past for one Philip PIPPY, buried 13 June 1819 at St. Peter and St. Paul in River Parish (Dover). This the first instance of anyone by that surname in Kent. We are wondering if this was a solo event, or if there was family living in the area. Is there any way of determining if there are others of that surname buried there? We have yet to try the censuses for the area. Known variants of the surname are PIPPEY (known around Bristol), and PEPPY (found around London and Cornwall). Any help or ideas welcome. Jim Roberts New Brunswick, Canada (PIPPY was my mother's maiden name). ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List, I have been researching the PIPPY family for years from about 1754 and later in Newfoundland, but have been unable in over 30 years to make a connection back to the U.K. or the Channel Islands. A cousin has just found a burial on Find My Past for one Philip PIPPY, buried 13 June 1819 at St. Peter and St. Paul in River Parish (Dover). This the first instance of anyone by that surname in Kent. We are wondering if this was a solo event, or if there was family living in the area. Is there any way of determining if there are others of that surname buried there? We have yet to try the censuses for the area. Known variants of the surname are PIPPEY (known around Bristol), and PEPPY (found around London and Cornwall). Any help or ideas welcome. Jim Roberts New Brunswick, Canada (PIPPY was my mother's maiden name).

Thanks Sue for replying. By now you will have read what I sent to Diane. My mary was born in Chillenden. The Census sheets were quite confusing also. In 1851 Mary is listed as being bron in Dover she is with her daughter Ann and that is wrong as Ann was born in Goodnestone. Then in 1861 it says Goodnestone and finally 1871 & 1881 it says Chillenden. Some of the info on these Ancestry trees are not always correct. Once again thanks for replying. Regards, Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Slater" <sue.slater11@btinternet.com> To: <Dianadiluca@aol.com>; <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Belsey family > Following on from Diana's list of Mary Belsey sightings and just to add to > the confusion. I saw the reference to the Mary who was born Coldred. The > Coldred PRs show an Isaac Belsey bap 20 Jul 1755 son of John & Ann Belsey. > Don't know if you have this one Ruth! > > The only Mary Belsey I can see baptised in Coldred around 1787 is Mary dau > of Henry & Mary of Coldred Court. Mary b 5 May bap 27 May 1787 Coldred. > So > this appears to tie up with Mary No. 3 on Diana's list, although you say > she > is not the one who married James Terry. > > The only Belsey baptism in Coldred for parents John & Elizabeth Belsey is > John Belsey bap 2 Dec 1744. This says John was of Shepherdwell. > > Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dianadiluca@aol.com > Sent: 12 February 2010 06:06 > To: KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Belsey family > > hI > > According to various family trees on Ancestry: > > Mary Belsey born abt 1787 Kent Died 29 Dec 1883 Kent Married 1 Feb 1806 to > James Terry. Parents John Belsey and Elizabeth Vanson > > Mary Belsey born 5 May 1787 Coldred died 1858 Wingham married 1 Feb 1806 > Kent to James Terry. Parents Isaac Belsey and Ann Kemp > > Mary Belsey born 5 May 1787 Kent died 1883 Kent married 1 Feb Wingham Kent > to James Terry. Parents Henry Belsey and Mary Friend > > Mary Belsey born 1788 Northbourne, Kent - Parents Isaac Belsey and Sarah > Adams. > > Mary Belsey born 31 Jan 1789 Kent died 1884 Eastry, Kent married James > Terry > > Mary Belsey born 31 Jan 1789 Dover, Kent died Mar 1884 Eastry married 1806 > Kent to James Terry > > A lot of conflictions! > > Regards > > Diana > > Re: I have a brick wall that is driving me nuts. To those BELSEY > researchers out there in the big wide world of cyberspace please help me. > Many years ago a wonderful by the name of woman Margaret BELSEY from > Kent, > who has alas since passed on, gave me and I do know a number of you > fellow > BELSEY researchers charts showing our lines back to Thomas BELSEY & Joan > HUCKING. > > For near on 20 years I believed that I was connected through John BELSEY > & > Elizabeth VANSON( according to Margaret's chart), supposedly through > their > daughter Mary BELSEY whom she said had married James TERRY. This fact has > now been found to be untrue. > > Yes a Mary BELSEY did marry my James TERRY in 1806 but her parents were > Isaac BELSEY & Ann KEMP. They married 10-Oct-1776, in Ickham. > > This Isaac BELSEY was born abt 1751 and died 15 Feb 1840 in Rowling, aged > 89. I have his Deat certificate which shows a Charlotte BELSEY as the > informant. Charlotte was married to Isaac's son John. > > What I need to establish is who were Isaac's parents and where was he > born? > > His wife Ann KEMP was born in Northbourne but as for Isaac I haven't a > clue. > I have looked at all the Isaac's in my tree and there are quite a number > of > them but alas none in or around 1751. > > If any BELSEY researcher has info on my elusive Isaac I would so > appreciate > hearing from you. > > Thanking you in advance, > Ruth > New Zealand > > > -- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2682 - Release Date: 02/12/10 05:09:00 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 4665 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hi Diane, Thanks for those Mary BELSEY's you found. Yes I have also found them on Ancestry alas they are not correct. You mentioned this one....> Mary Belsey born 5 May 1787 Coldred died 1858 Wingham married 1 Feb 1806 Kent to James Terry. Parents Isaac Belsey and Ann Kemp. I know the subscriber and I gave her the correct information. Guess she has not yet fixed up her tree on ancestry. Vey confusing as there are so many Mary BELSEY's. I have Mary's death certificate and the informant was her daughter Charlotte. Mary was christened 24-Aug-1788, All Saints, Chillenden, Kent, Eng, died aged 96, Chillenden, Eyethorn, Eastry, Kent, Eng. A pity my Mary hadn't been born to John BELSEY & Elizabeth VANSON as it all fitted in very nicely. Hopefully someone out there may just pick up on my entry. Thanks again, Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dianadiluca@aol.com> To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Belsey family > hI > > According to various family trees on Ancestry: > > Mary Belsey born abt 1787 Kent Died 29 Dec 1883 Kent Married 1 Feb 1806 to > James Terry. Parents John Belsey and Elizabeth Vanson > > Mary Belsey born 5 May 1787 Coldred died 1858 Wingham married 1 Feb 1806 > Kent to James Terry. Parents Isaac Belsey and Ann Kemp > > Mary Belsey born 5 May 1787 Kent died 1883 Kent married 1 Feb Wingham Kent > to James Terry. Parents Henry Belsey and Mary Friend > > Mary Belsey born 1788 Northbourne, Kent - Parents Isaac Belsey and Sarah > Adams. > > Mary Belsey born 31 Jan 1789 Kent died 1884 Eastry, Kent married James > Terry > > Mary Belsey born 31 Jan 1789 Dover, Kent died Mar 1884 Eastry married 1806 > Kent to James Terry > > A lot of conflictions! > > Regards > > Diana > > Re: I have a brick wall that is driving me nuts. To those BELSEY > researchers out > there in the big wide world of cyberspace please help me. > Many years ago a wonderful by the name of woman Margaret BELSEY from > Kent, > who has alas since passed on, gave me and I do know a number of you > fellow > BELSEY researchers charts showing our lines back to Thomas BELSEY & Joan > HUCKING. > > For near on 20 years I believed that I was connected through John BELSEY > & > Elizabeth VANSON( according to Margaret's chart), supposedly through > their > daughter Mary BELSEY whom she said had married James TERRY. This fact has > now been found to be untrue. > > Yes a Mary BELSEY did marry my James TERRY in 1806 but her parents were > Isaac BELSEY & Ann KEMP. They married 10-Oct-1776, in Ickham. > > This Isaac BELSEY was born abt 1751 and died 15 Feb 1840 in Rowling, aged > 89. I have his Deat certificate which shows a Charlotte BELSEY as the > informant. Charlotte was married to Isaac's son John. > > What I need to establish is who were Isaac's parents and where was he > born? > His wife Ann KEMP was born in Northbourne but as for Isaac I haven't a > clue. > I have looked at all the Isaac's in my tree and there are quite a number > of > them but alas none in or around 1751. > > If any BELSEY researcher has info on my elusive Isaac I would so > appreciate > hearing from you. > > Thanking you in advance, > Ruth > New Zealand > > > -- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2682 - Release Date: 02/12/10 05:09:00 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 4665 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

I have a brick wall that is driving me nuts. To those BELSEY researchers out there in the big wide world of cyberspace please help me. Many years ago a wonderful by the name of woman Margaret BELSEY from Kent, who has alas since passed on, gave me and I do know a number of you fellow BELSEY researchers charts showing our lines back to Thomas BELSEY & Joan HUCKING. For near on 20 years I believed that I was connected through John BELSEY & Elizabeth VANSON( according to Margaret's chart), supposedly through their daughter Mary BELSEY whom she said had married James TERRY. This fact has now been found to be untrue. Yes a Mary BELSEY did marry my James TERRY in 1806 but her parents were Isaac BELSEY & Ann KEMP. They married 10-Oct-1776, in Ickham. This Isaac BELSEY was born abt 1751 and died 15 Feb 1840 in Rowling, aged 89. I have his Deat certificate which shows a Charlotte BELSEY as the informant. Charlotte was married to Isaac's son John. What I need to establish is who were Isaac's parents and where was he born? His wife Ann KEMP was born in Northbourne but as for Isaac I haven't a clue. I have looked at all the Isaac's in my tree and there are quite a number of them but alas none in or around 1751. If any BELSEY researcher has info on my elusive Isaac I would so appreciate hearing from you. Thanking you in advance, Ruth New Zealand -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 4663 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Thank-you Sue.Judy and Steade.. and everyone who made contact with me.. Steade >>your names aren't in my research.... There are so many LUCAS families . Should I come across any of them will let you know.. i have not been able to find the marriage of FRANCIS LUCAS and ANN.JAMES Actually, I was assuming Sarah b 1820 was their only child. However, she was the last child of 6 .. and i discovered Francis died the same year. '' The first child born abt 1802..he was named Francis. (1) FRANCIS LUCAS was born Jan 1762 and christened >>25th June @ St Boltoph Without Aldgate London... 3 of his children christened at St Mary's LEWISHAM.. Again my thanks. betty(oz) ----- Original Message ----- From: SteadeC@aol.com To: bkrhodes@bigpond.net.au ; KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 4:08 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] LUCAS In a message dated 2/11/2010 5:49:47 A.M. Central Standard Time, bkrhodes@bigpond.net.au writes: Request Please. New to the List. i would appreciate help. Researching LUCAS name. Looking for a marriage Francis LUCAS to Ann JAMES possible at St Mary's LEWISHAM. ( Kent or Middx have seen both) Their daughter Sarah was bapt. there April 2 1820 Francis LUCAS a Wine Merchant from Blackheath Assume Ann JAMES came from the area where her dau was christened.... T I A betty(oz) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message I am very interested in the Lucas family. A family of a similar name arrived very early in the colonial Maryland, USA. In fact, there is a Kent County, Maryland, founded in 1642, named for the English Kent County. The county seat is Chestertown. The Maryland Lucas family intermarried into the Swan, Hughes, and Rice families, as well as my Crago family. Are the Swan, Hughes, and Rice families also represented in the Kent County, England? Regards, Steade ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2680 - Release Date: 02/11/10 05:38:00

Dear List Members, I have Sophia NOWER in my tree and I am seeking further information about her. Sophia was Baptised on 9 Mar 1817 at St Mary the Virgin Parish Church, Rolvenden, Kent, the daughter of James and Hannah NOWER. Sophia had one older sister, Jane and two younger sisters, Ann and Elizabeth. Sophia NOWER married William THORNCRAFT about 1835, probably in Kent. Their first child, Reuben was born about 1836 and it is likely that the family migrated to Australia prior to the 1841 UK Census. The couple had another nine children in Australia and Sophia NOWER died in 1887 at Millthorpe, NSW. Any further information on Sophia NOWER greatly appreciated and I would be very happy to pass on what information I have on the THORNCRAFT family. Leigh.