In a message dated 3/6/2010 5:30:02 A.M. Central Standard Time, dan_jenkins66@hotmail.com writes: John , A good source is Dr. Williams Library, London , WWW.dwlib.co.uk Dr. Williams collected much info. on dissenters . The registers of baps. start about 1720. They have other data as well . A lot of dissenters are buried in Bunhill Fields in London . Over 120, 000 burials . I visited it 2 years ago , and found it most interesting. REv. William Jenkins who died at Newgate 1684 is among them . His mother was a dau. of John Rogers . His funeral prcession included over 150 coachs and his dau. gave out rings which really ticked off the King . Daniel Defoe is the most famous person there . THere is an office at the cem . that has records of who is interred within . Wesley's church is accoss the street . His mother Susannah is buried there. You can Google "Bunhill Fields " for good info. but the online list is very incomplete , so best to visit in person . The cemetery is near the Society of Genealogists , which is another good source of info. . Other cems. nearby are at Wesley Chapel, and Quaker Gardens . Dan Jenkins > From: j-p-p@tiscali.co.uk > To: KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:32:44 +0000 > Subject: [KENT-ENG] Dissenters in the 1700's > > I know this is an out-of-area question but this is one of the best and active forums around and maybe someone can help. > > > > I'm looking for info regarding the Hems family in North London (Stoke Newington) before about 1750. I'm part of a group who have combined our trees (see http://www.hemsearch.juxon.net/index.php - login using the word visitor as username and password to get access if you want to see what we're doing). Some of us were in contact with a member of the Guild of One Name Studies (Barbara Bassil) who gave us some basic info on the earliest generations we know, but she lost her sight in recent years and died last year aged 90. > > > > What we don't know is her sources for these early parts of the tree. Church records are good but there are no records of the families over several generations. Several of the group remember Barbara mentioning dissenters (non- Church of England people) in the past so I guess this could be where we should be looking. The question is where? Does anyone have any good recommendations as to where to find this sort of info? > > > > John > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message During the 16th and 17th centuries, Religious Dissenters went by many names, such as Separatists (from the Established Church of England), Brownists, Independents, Anabaptists, Puritans, early Presbyterians, etc. Steade

http://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ have a lot of non-conformist records - their sub is not cheap though :( but I think you can get a free trial. Anne South Australia John Packham wrote: > I know this is an out-of-area question but this is one of the best and active forums around and maybe someone can help. > > > > I'm looking for info regarding the Hems family in North London (Stoke Newington) before about 1750. I'm part of a group who have combined our trees (see http://www.hemsearch.juxon.net/index.php - login using the word visitor as username and password to get access if you want to see what we're doing). Some of us were in contact with a member of the Guild of One Name Studies (Barbara Bassil) who gave us some basic info on the earliest generations we know, but she lost her sight in recent years and died last year aged 90. > > > > What we don't know is her sources for these early parts of the tree. Church records are good but there are no records of the families over several generations. Several of the group remember Barbara mentioning dissenters (non- Church of England people) in the past so I guess this could be where we should be looking. The question is where? Does anyone have any good recommendations as to where to find this sort of info? > > > > John > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I know this is an out-of-area question but this is one of the best and active forums around and maybe someone can help. I'm looking for info regarding the Hems family in North London (Stoke Newington) before about 1750. I'm part of a group who have combined our trees (see http://www.hemsearch.juxon.net/index.php - login using the word visitor as username and password to get access if you want to see what we're doing). Some of us were in contact with a member of the Guild of One Name Studies (Barbara Bassil) who gave us some basic info on the earliest generations we know, but she lost her sight in recent years and died last year aged 90. What we don't know is her sources for these early parts of the tree. Church records are good but there are no records of the families over several generations. Several of the group remember Barbara mentioning dissenters (non- Church of England people) in the past so I guess this could be where we should be looking. The question is where? Does anyone have any good recommendations as to where to find this sort of info? John

Hi Listers Are you hunting for pictures of the places your ancestors came from? May I suggest a super site where you can hunt for the places under county, town, village, this will give you information and photos to add to your history files. Happy hunting http://www.picturesofengland.com Look and enjoy Cathy South Africa

Hello Christopher, May I suggest that your "Broughton" should be Boughton of which there are at least four parishes with that name in Kent. Boughton under Blean, Boughton Aluph, Boughton Malherbe and Boughton Monchelsea. As you are refering to 16th, Century it is posible that there was an "R" in the Boughton in those days. Spelling at that time was not standerdised. Best wishes in your huntin'. Dennis Bramble. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher McVay" <christophermcvay@me.com> To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 6:10 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] Long lost ancestors > Hello I am looking for ancestors of mine, The name is Thomas Barham of > Broughton, Kent, England and Marie King of Maidstone, kent, England. > Marie was born in 1572 and thomas was born in 1565. > Any help that anyone could provide would be amazing! > Thank you in advance! > Christopher McVay > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email >

Hello Christopher, I don't know of a Broughton in Kent other than a biggish property/estate near Sevenoaks. There is Boughton, a village near Faversham. There are four parishes in Kent with name Boughton as a prefix, or if you prefer it the other way, with other names as suffixes ! - Aluph, Malherbe, Monchelsea and - under Blean The latter is the village near Faversham, As surnames had variants so, historically and up to a point, did places particularly if you compare with 16th c spellings Lots of Broughtons elsewhere in the country ! Your choice, but the Broughton House was not a parish ! Sid On 2 March 2010 18:10, Christopher McVay <christophermcvay@me.com> wrote: > Hello I am looking for ancestors of mine, The name is Thomas Barham of > Broughton, Kent, England and Marie King of Maidstone, kent, England. > Marie was born in 1572 and thomas was born in 1565. > Any help that anyone could provide would be amazing! > Thank you in advance! >

Hello I am looking for ancestors of mine, The name is Thomas Barham of Broughton, Kent, England and Marie King of Maidstone, kent, England. Marie was born in 1572 and thomas was born in 1565. Any help that anyone could provide would be amazing! Thank you in advance! Christopher McVay

Hi THanks to all who have given me new avenues to research in my attempt to track down my George Cook's emigration firstly to Kawau Island, NZ, and then onto NSW, Australia Many thanks, I'll be quite busy for a while I expect Kind regards Cherylanne ----- Original Message ----- From: <kent-eng-request@rootsweb.com> To: <kent-eng@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:00 PM Subject: KENT-ENG Digest, Vol 5, Issue 75 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: KENT-ENG Digest, Vol 5, Issue 72 (Philippa Cooper) > 2. COOK (Adele) > 3. Stephen Cate (John Cates) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:29:59 +1030 > From: "Philippa Cooper" <pkcooper@aapt.net.au> > Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] KENT-ENG Digest, Vol 5, Issue 72 > To: <kent-eng@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <0DA2150EE451426A8BA52C28AB57FA97@philippa69rc4w> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Cheryl Anne, don't overlook the folk who migrated to Australia, didn't > like > it, and then went to NZ. I have several of these in my family. You may > want to look at the incoming records to Sydney or Melbourne, in case they > are there. Do you know if they were assisted or unassisted immigrants? > Cheers > Philippa > - > > HI to all on the list > > It's been a while since I posted to the list but I get the Digest form > everyday to keep up to speed with postings. > > I have a question and was hoping someone on this list might be able to > shed > some light. > > My George William Cook (a copper miner) emigrated from Wappenham, Kent, > between 1845 - 1849 (aged 22 - 26yrs) to Wellington, New Zealand. > > Can someone please advise what shipping records exist in England which > could > identify his departure? Alternatively, surely there would not have been > too > many departures from England to New Zealand during the period of > 1845-1849. > Is anyone able to identify the name of the ships? > > Here in NSW we have published journals which list assisted and unassisted > immigrants to NSW but I have no way of accessing English ships who landed > in > Wellington, NZ. > > Any help would be greatly appeciated. > > Kind regards > Cherylanne. > >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:32:22 +1300 > From: "Adele" <PentonyGraham@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: [KENT-ENG] COOK > To: <kent-eng@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <3A5324B0D5AD4A849EDDA62A18B22395@IBMKEHH39K> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I have emailed the enquirer for COOK for NZ, and suggested a website, now > that Joan has quoted a few ships, to help Cheryl, that will be easier to > look up on the site suggested, as only ships are listed.. Denise & Peters > site called Our Stuff. Immigrant ships to NZ from 1835.. I came across one > Cook, but had an E on end and a middle name... One of the first ships to > come to NZ with early settlers was Aurora. There is in Wellington, Early > Settlers Museum at Petone, they maybe able to assist.. > > Good hunting! > > > > Adele Pentony-Graham > Carterton District Early Settlers Researcher > Carterton Cemetery Clareville Taphophile Group > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:05:19 -0800 (PST) > From: John Cates <puertoaventura@att.net> > Subject: [KENT-ENG] Stephen Cate > To: KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <945567.14565.qm@web82208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > > Hello, > > I am looking for information about Stephen Cate, his will was dated 12 > December 1655, and he is from Horsmonden, Ken. As a Yeoman.? Thank you, > John Cates > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the KENT-ENG list administrator, send an email to > KENT-ENG-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the KENT-ENG mailing list, send an email to > KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of KENT-ENG Digest, Vol 5, Issue 75 > ***************************************

Hi Joan Thanks for the tips. George William Cook was born in 1823 in Wappenham, Kent, and I estimate he travelled to NZ in 1845-1849 but haven't been able to find out the name of the ship, date of departure or arrival or anything else. He was a Methodist and it is believed in NZ he spent time on Kawua Island (very north) working in the copper mines there. He appears to have emigrated on his own. All the latter is family folklore and I have checked but records that exist in relation to the old copper mines on Kawau Island do not mention him. I know Auckland would have been a closer port to Kawau but advised the list of Wellington to cover all bases. Thanks Cheers Cherylanne ----- Original Message ----- From: <kent-eng-request@rootsweb.com> To: <kent-eng@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 7:00 PM Subject: KENT-ENG Digest, Vol 5, Issue 74 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. COOK (Joan McConachie) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:23:26 +1300 > From: Joan McConachie <joan.mcconachie@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: [KENT-ENG] COOK > To: Kent-Eng <Kent-Eng@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4B88902E.5030606@xtra.co.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Cheryl > Concerning your query for shipping to NZ 1845-1849. > I had a look at our records in local library yesterday and not many > listed for Wellington. I suggest you Google for Port Nicholson for those > years. > Also some called in to Nelson as it was a short steamer service across > to Wellington. > I looked for those sailing mainly from London & Plymouth. > "Slains Castle" 24-10-1844 > "Nelson" 15-8-1845 > "Mary Catherine" 27-9-1845 > "Louisa Campbell" 21-3-1845 > "Kelso" 2-7-1849 > > I would Google for these also and you may get a passenger list. I will > keep looking for you when I am next on Duty. Did he marry in NZ or Aus. > Hope this helps > Joan > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the KENT-ENG list administrator, send an email to > KENT-ENG-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the KENT-ENG mailing list, send an email to > KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of KENT-ENG Digest, Vol 5, Issue 74 > ***************************************

I would very much like to find a newspaper report concerning the death of a Great Uncle Donald Herbert BAKER in the Q March 1955 in Folkestone. We believe he died in a motor cycle accident, so assume the local papers of the time would have covered this event. I will be purchasing his death cert to confirm this, but also interested to the occupation of Donald Herbert Baker. I am very willing to do a look up in return for the Thanet area, or if someone could suggest a researcher in the Folkestone area I can engage to look this up for me. Any suggestions great appreciated Many Thanks Suzannah

Hi All For all those with an interest in Upchurch/Lower Halstow, the following pages on my website have further research added recently: http://www.fadedgenes.co.uk/ErnestCARTER.html http://www.fadedgenes.co.uk/RolandWHITNELL.html http://www.fadedgenes.co.uk/WilfredBAKER.html http://www.fadedgenes.co.uk/StuartMERCER.html http://www.fadedgenes.co.uk/AlbertHenryNEWMAN.html http://www.fadedgenes.co.uk/CharlesEdwardGRANSDEN.html http://www.fadedgenes.co.uk/ThomasSIFLEET.html http://www.fadedgenes.co.uk/CharlesWHITNELL.html http://www.fadedgenes.co.uk/JohnWilliamWHITNELL.html I hope some of you find something which helps your research. I am concentrating on further research for these two memorials at the moment, so if anybody has information which will help me I would be very appreciative. For instance; I still have 15 names on the Upchurch memorial which I have not achieved postive identifications for. All the best Dave Dixon BA (hons) - Economic & Social History - University of Kent - Canterbury 1997 www.fadedgenes.co.uk

Yes Philippa - quite right. Our PM, Gordon Brown, has apologised to all of those kids who were sent over to Australia under a post-war scheme - The child migrant programme. The link to the news page is http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8531664.stm Gordon Brown has apologised for the UK's role in sending more than 130,000 children to former colonies where many suffered abuse. He expressed regret for the "misguided" Child Migrant Programme, telling the Commons he was "truly sorry" Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:29:59 +1030 From: "Philippa Cooper" <pkcooper@aapt.net.au> Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] KENT-ENG Digest, Vol 5, Issue 72 Cheryl Anne, don't overlook the folk who migrated to Australia, didn't like it, and then went to NZ. I have several of these in my family. You may want to look at the incoming records to Sydney or Melbourne, in case they are there. Do you know if they were assisted or unassisted immigrants? Cheers Philippa

I have emailed the enquirer for COOK for NZ, and suggested a website, now that Joan has quoted a few ships, to help Cheryl, that will be easier to look up on the site suggested, as only ships are listed.. Denise & Peters site called Our Stuff. Immigrant ships to NZ from 1835.. I came across one Cook, but had an E on end and a middle name... One of the first ships to come to NZ with early settlers was Aurora. There is in Wellington, Early Settlers Museum at Petone, they maybe able to assist.. Good hunting! Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton District Early Settlers Researcher Carterton Cemetery Clareville Taphophile Group

Cheryl Anne, don't overlook the folk who migrated to Australia, didn't like it, and then went to NZ. I have several of these in my family. You may want to look at the incoming records to Sydney or Melbourne, in case they are there. Do you know if they were assisted or unassisted immigrants? Cheers Philippa - HI to all on the list It's been a while since I posted to the list but I get the Digest form everyday to keep up to speed with postings. I have a question and was hoping someone on this list might be able to shed some light. My George William Cook (a copper miner) emigrated from Wappenham, Kent, between 1845 - 1849 (aged 22 - 26yrs) to Wellington, New Zealand. Can someone please advise what shipping records exist in England which could identify his departure? Alternatively, surely there would not have been too many departures from England to New Zealand during the period of 1845-1849. Is anyone able to identify the name of the ships? Here in NSW we have published journals which list assisted and unassisted immigrants to NSW but I have no way of accessing English ships who landed in Wellington, NZ. Any help would be greatly appeciated. Kind regards Cherylanne. >

Hi Cheryl Concerning your query for shipping to NZ 1845-1849. I had a look at our records in local library yesterday and not many listed for Wellington. I suggest you Google for Port Nicholson for those years. Also some called in to Nelson as it was a short steamer service across to Wellington. I looked for those sailing mainly from London & Plymouth. "Slains Castle" 24-10-1844 "Nelson" 15-8-1845 "Mary Catherine" 27-9-1845 "Louisa Campbell" 21-3-1845 "Kelso" 2-7-1849 I would Google for these also and you may get a passenger list. I will keep looking for you when I am next on Duty. Did he marry in NZ or Aus. Hope this helps Joan

Hello, I am looking for information about Stephen Cate, his will was dated 12 December 1655, and he is from Horsmonden, Ken. As a Yeoman.  Thank you, John Cates

Hi I have had the experience of trying to locate unassisted immigrants fro Kent to NZ. Unfortunately those listed in the on-line records are usually the more affluent passengers paying for first or saloon class cabins. I found mine after many hours of trawling through films of the passenger lists held at our local library, although they were later, in the 1870's. Papers Past is an excellent site, or try NZ Archives in Wellington. They have a card index and would do a look-up for you. Cheers Sharee in Christchurch NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl-Anne Bailey" <sherryk@netspace.net.au> To: <kent-eng@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 12:11 AM Subject: [KENT-ENG] Departure of George COOK from Kent England bound for NewZealand between 1845 - 1849 HI to all on the list It's been a while since I posted to the list but I get the Digest form everyday to keep up to speed with postings. I have a question and was hoping someone on this list might be able to shed some light. My George William Cook (a copper miner) emigrated from Wappenham, Kent, between 1845 - 1849 (aged 22 - 26yrs) to Wellington, New Zealand. Can someone please advise what shipping records exist in England which could identify his departure? Alternatively, surely there would not have been too many departures from England to New Zealand during the period of 1845-1849. Is anyone able to identify the name of the ships? Here in NSW we have published journals which list assisted and unassisted immigrants to NSW but I have no way of accessing English ships who landed in Wellington, NZ. Any help would be greatly appeciated. Kind regards Cherylanne.

Hi Listers, can anyone tell me if St Mary Magdalen, Woolwich was or is in Kent or London c 1820? I'm confused about where to look for my Alexander family. Mary Jane ALEXANDER was b1826, ch in 1827 at St Mary Magdalene's. Her parents were Charles Alexander and ????. She later migrated to Aust. c1854 and died in 1867 in Melb. Cheers, Robyn of Oz.

replied off list... Cheers pam from Adelaide Australia > Hi Listers, can anyone tell me if St Mary Magdalen, Woolwich was or is > in Kent or London c 1820? I'm confused about where to look for my > Alexander family. > Mary Jane ALEXANDER was b1826, ch in 1827 at St Mary Magdalene's. Her > parents were Charles Alexander and ????. She later migrated to Aust. > c1854 and died in 1867 in Melb. >

Have you tried Cyndies Lists? http://www.cyndislist.com/ KInd regards Ann Western Australia research@sbse.net.au http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~blacksmiths/ I have the surname BASKETT registered with GOONS http://www.one-name.org/ Rootsweb surname list for NUTTY. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------