Jo-an, IGI has an extracted record for John Moon marrying Charlotte Cross at Hove, Sussex on 31 Dec 1851 (M013973). Peter I have been researching my husband's Moon family from Greenwich later Canterbury. I am stuck at John Moon (there are many) who married Charlotte Crofs (or could it be Cross or Croft or Kraft or any number of other names) which I found on his ggrandfaher George Moon. I estimate that the dates of birth would be around 1836 to 1840. George born 1863 married Mary Ann Manners. Other names being researched is this area Baker, Barton and O'Brien as well as Stapleton and Morton. If anyone has any info on the Moon family specifically, I would be eternally grateful! Jo-Ann O'Neill

I have been researching my husband's Moon family from Greenwich later Canterbury. I am stuck at John Moon (there are many) who married Charlotte Crofs (or could it be Cross or Croft or Kraft or any number of other names) which I found on his ggrandfaher George Moon. I estimate that the dates of birth would be around 1836 to 1840. George born 1863 married Mary Ann Manners. Other names being researched is this area Baker, Barton and O'Brien as well as Stapleton and Morton. If anyone has any info on the Moon family specifically, I would be eternally grateful! Jo-Ann O'Neill The past is a source of knowledge, and the future is a source of hope. Love of the past implies faith in the future. - Stephen Ambrose, 1936-2002

1871 Clackett  William  33 Head Agricultural Labourer Lenham, Kent  Bethersden, Hollingbourn    Clackett  Ann  33 Wife  Bethersden, Kent  Bethersden, Hollingbourn    Clackett  Edward  13 Son Agricultural Labourer Bethersden, Kent  Bedmonton, Hollingbourn    Clackett  Charles  10 Son Scholar Bethesiden, Kent  Bethersden, Hollingbourn    Clackett  Frederick  7 Son Scholar Horns Hill, Kent  Bethersden, Hollingbourn No wonder you couldn't find him, his name is recorded as Brunger on the 1881 census? 1881 Clackett  Ann  44 Mother  Bethersden, Kent  4 Smeed Cottages, Tunstall, Kent    Brunger  Edward  23 Son Agricultural Labourer Bethersden, Kent  4 Smeed Cottages, Tunstall, Kent         Brunger  Charles  21 Son Agricultural Labourer Bethersden, Kent  4 Smeed Cottages, Tunstall, Kent           Clackett  Frederick  19 Son Carpenter Bethersden, Kent  4 Smeed Cottages, Tunstall, Kent This death which could be correct for the father, though I cannot work out where Brunger came from. Deaths Mar 1875    BRUNGER  William  36  W. Ashford  2a 496 Regards Suzannah ----- Original Message ---- From: Bob Neil <rneil@sympatico.ca> To: KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 23 March, 2010 13:10:49 Subject: [KENT-ENG] Looking for assistance - Elizabeth ROBINSON & Charles John CLACKETT parents I have a certified copy of a marriage of a marriage on 28 March 1882 between Charles John CLACKETT, 21, bachelor, laborer, of Frederick St., Sittingbourne, s/o William CLACKETT deceased carpenter & Elizabeth ROBINSON, 21, spinster, of Hartlip, d/o George ROBINSON laborer at the Register Office in the District of Milton, Kent Witnesses were Richard CLACKETT and Kate ROBINSON I have found Elizabeth, 21 & widowed father George, 66 in the 1881 census living at Old House Farm, Hartlip. But I cannot find Charles John Clackett in the 1881 census. I have been trying to find out any information regarding the parents & families of the above married couple. Any leads would be greatly appreciated so I can proceed with my tree. I suspect that Charles' mother's name could be Ann but have no proof other than a written note stating: Charles Clackett born July 12, 1861 sgd. 6th April 1907 by Ann. Thanks for any leads. -- Bob === Robert Neil Chatham-Kent, ON, Canada rneil@sympatico.ca

Hi, Well spotted Suzannah. I found Ann but didn't notice the different last name of Charles! My message about the 1861 census bounced back for some reason, so I've resent it. That may help explain the Brunger. Likely William Clackett was the stepfather of Edward & Charles. There is an Edward Brunger registered in West Ashford (includes Bethersden) in March quarter 1858. I couldn't find a Charles under Brunger or Clackett though. Terry, Oakville, Ontario

Hi Bob, Further to my earlier message, there is on the 1861 census a William Clacket (unmarried son of Richard & Ann) living next door to an Ann Homewood (unmarried) who has 2 sons, Edward age 3 and Charles age 8months. On FreeBMD there is a marriage in Dec 1861 of William Clackett and Ann Homewood. Hope this helps. Terry, Oakville, Ontario

I have a certified copy of a marriage of a marriage on 28 March 1882 between Charles John CLACKETT, 21, bachelor, laborer, of Frederick St., Sittingbourne, s/o William CLACKETT deceased carpenter & Elizabeth ROBINSON, 21, spinster, of Hartlip, d/o George ROBINSON laborer at the Register Office in the District of Milton, Kent Witnesses were Richard CLACKETT and Kate ROBINSON I have found Elizabeth, 21 & widowed father George, 66 in the 1881 census living at Old House Farm, Hartlip. But I cannot find Charles John Clackett in the 1881 census. I have been trying to find out any information regarding the parents & families of the above married couple. Any leads would be greatly appreciated so I can proceed with my tree. I suspect that Charles' mother's name could be Ann but have no proof other than a written note stating: Charles Clackett born July 12, 1861 sgd. 6th April 1907 by Ann. Thanks for any leads. -- Bob === Robert Neil Chatham-Kent, ON, Canada rneil@sympatico.ca

Hi Listers, I am looking for information about F.W.Moore & Co, Builders and Contractors of Shore hill, Otford, Sevenoaks. They were in business in 1924. The firm is not listed in Kelly's for the period. Moore built or modernised a house in Kemsing for Captain O Lyle in 1924. My great grandfather, William Brown supplied bricks or tiles for the work. Are there any records etc of the builders, r the house at Kemsing which I could access? I am interested in viewing ledgers or architect's plans etc for the project. My aim is to build up a better picture of GGF's business, and to see examples of his bricks and tiles in-situ. Your suggestions, help etc would be much appreciated. Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K.

Hi All. Greetings from downunder. I'm back researching after some years on my wife's line, I'm posting here hoping to find some connections. We are in the process of moving and most of my info is in storage but here is what I have. George SILLS m Mary SAXTY,and I have not recorded where I got this from. James SILLS bc 1811-1816 Folkstone/Maidstone depending on which census m Ann ? bc1811 James is a quarryman 1841. Children are Ann 1833, Julia 1835, In 1851 he is a Stone merchant living 160 Boxley Rd Maidstone and has added Robert 1842, Reid 1844, Henry E 1849. Ann bc 1833 mSept qtr 1850 Henry WATTS plasterer, in Maidstone. Harriet Ann WATTS b7.10.1850 at 160 Boxley Rd m 1.5.1870 Edward Joseph LANDON in South Hackney Middlesex. Harriet and Edward emigrated to Australia arriving 6.7.1884 from Plymouth. Edward died 1.8.1885, Harriet then married James LEE 11.2.1888 in Sydney and these are my wifes Greatgrandparents. I can't find James SILLS in the 1861 census but in 1871 he is in South Hackney, grocer and has grandchildren Martha Kezia WATTS 15 and Caroline Sills WATTS 12 living with him, these are Henry WATTS and Ann's children. Regards Ken.

Dear Karen Thank you very much for the information will start looking at this lead today. Best Wishes Brian

Dear Brian Lynsted PRs have Ann buried 27.9.1798. a Susannah buried 30.8.1828, John baptised 6.4.1814, all the children of John and Sarah. Against John's baptism is the note OTP (Servant). A John WILDISH was buried 15.11.1815 aged 47 and a Sarah buried 2.5.1862 aged 88, so you should be able to find her in the 41, 51 and 61 census. Hope this helps your search! Best wishes, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "brian butler" <brian.btlr@googlemail.com> To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 4:44 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] WILDISH and SOULTEN > Dear Listers, > > Lookiing into one of my brick walls for any information on the above > people > My third tine Great Grandparents. > Re John WILDISH. I have no details other than he married Sarah SOULTEN (b > abt 1776 Milton), 8th November 1796, Teynham, Sittingbourne and they had > at > least three children, all christened at Lynsted: > > Ann 21st Jan 1797 > Susanna 1st Feb 1801, married Henry Stephen KEMP, 14th Feb 1827. > Elizabeth (My 2x Great Grandmother) 21st October 1802, Married Thomas > SHEEPWASH, 12th July 1823 Minster Parish Church, Sheppy. > Re Sarah, nothing other than that she may be still living in Milton aged > 76 > on the 1851 census. > > These lines has stumped me for many years so any information on John and > Sarah or their families would be appreciated. > > Many Thanks and Good Hunting > Brian Butler. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Listers, Lookiing into one of my brick walls for any information on the above people My third tine Great Grandparents. Re John WILDISH. I have no details other than he married Sarah SOULTEN (b abt 1776 Milton), 8th November 1796, Teynham, Sittingbourne and they had at least three children, all christened at Lynsted: Ann 21st Jan 1797 Susanna 1st Feb 1801, married Henry Stephen KEMP, 14th Feb 1827. Elizabeth (My 2x Great Grandmother) 21st October 1802, Married Thomas SHEEPWASH, 12th July 1823 Minster Parish Church, Sheppy. Re Sarah, nothing other than that she may be still living in Milton aged 76 on the 1851 census. These lines has stumped me for many years so any information on John and Sarah or their families would be appreciated. Many Thanks and Good Hunting Brian Butler.

Hi Eveline, A John GOWEN married an Elizabeth SUMMERS on January 5, 1773 at Birling. This reference is in the IGI ( Batch No. M130932). I checked Gowen and Gowan because an English written "r" can easily be transcribed as an "n", particularly if the transcription is done by a North American. Not a bad thing to keep in mind when you hit dead ends. It may not be your man, but I think it's a possibility. Good luck with your hunt, Jan Isobel

Hi Eveline, We have a GOWER on our tree who was born in Sussex. Stephen GOWER  Arlington, 1824,East Sussex, England   In the notes it says Surname also GROWER   1851 census - Residence - Hawkes House, Hailsham, Sussex.  Age 27.  Wool buyer and seller.  Birthplace- Arlington, Sussex. (He married Elizabeth VINCETT and they emigrated to the US.) I don't have any infromation on his parents. Harry Vincett   ----- Original Message ---- From: A CLARKE <evelineclarke183@btinternet.com> To: KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 7:20:37 AM Subject: [KENT-ENG] John GOWAR/GOWER Hi   I hope that someone will be able to help me.    I am trying to find the birth or marriage of John GowAr/GowEr who lived at Birling.   In his will dated 1807 John states he was John GowAr a Yeoman of Barnwell in the Parish of Birling.   I have found his burial in the Birling register and he was buried in the name GowEr.    I have also found most of his children at Birling Thomas, Elizabeth, Frances, Samuel, Richard, Raydin in the parish register and they were baptised as GowEr.    In most of the censuses, his children were called GowAR, so we assume that it was just the priest at Birling who thought their name should be spelt with an E.   We believe his son Thomas was the eldest as he was given the farm, as he was baptised in 1774, we have assumed that John would have married his wife Elizabeth ??? sometime around 1772 give or take a couple of years.   John would have been born c1740 as he was 67 when he died.     If anyone is able to help it would be greatly appreciated.   Regards   Eveline ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi   I hope that someone will be able to help me.    I am trying to find the birth or marriage of John GowAr/GowEr who lived at Birling.   In his will dated 1807 John states he was John GowAr a Yeoman of Barnwell in the Parish of Birling.   I have found his burial in the Birling register and he was buried in the name GowEr.    I have also found most of his children at Birling Thomas, Elizabeth, Frances, Samuel, Richard, Raydin in the parish register and they were baptised as GowEr.    In most of the censuses, his children were called GowAR, so we assume that it was just the priest at Birling who thought their name should be spelt with an E.   We believe his son Thomas was the eldest as he was given the farm, as he was baptised in 1774, we have assumed that John would have married his wife Elizabeth ??? sometime around 1772 give or take a couple of years.   John would have been born c1740 as he was 67 when he died.     If anyone is able to help it would be greatly appreciated.   Regards   Eveline

Hello Listers, I'm hoping that someone can steer me in the right direction to break down my brick wall. I'm looking - so far without any success - for the following: i) The baptism/birth/parentage of William Wood born about 1806 in Edenbridge. ii) The baptism/birth/parentage of Thomas Mitchell born about 1781 in Farnborough, Kent. I'm also looking for his marriage to a lady called Catherine which may have been in Chelsfield/Chelfield as all their children were born there. If anyone has the PRs for either of these places, I'd be very grateful. Jennifer

Hi Peter- I did some research on a Wealden rector and his employees a couple of years ago. The rector I was researching brought his staff with him to the posting. Perhaps the rector at Wichling brought along your coachman. It¹s a possibility anyway. Best of luck on your search. Mary Kitzel

Hi Peter http://www.faversham.org/pages/standard.aspx?i_PageID=112079 Faversham home page Try contacting the Church themselves. http://gen.culpepper.com/Archives/uk/places/wichling.htm Picture of the Church http://www.british-history.ac.uk/place.aspx May have information on Wichling and the Vicar A good starting point for things like this. I presume you have found your man on censuses? there's a Joseph richmond in 1891 in evington Leceistershire, so perhaps he returned home in 1898. Pam from Adelaide Australia > Hi everyone, > I'm new to this list and wonder if anybody can assist with my query. > We have an August 1897 marriage certificate of Sarah Ann Wall (widow, nee > McGilloway) marrying Joseph Richmond (36, father william deceased farm > labourer) at register office Hollingbourne. > Residence for Joseph (a domstic coachman) is Wichling Rectory and for > Sarah Ann is just Wichling. > What we are looking for is was Joseph emploed by the Rector, if so how > long? > Did his family come from the Kent area? what was Sarah Ann doing in > Wichling as her marriage to L A Wall had been in Winchester. > We know that by 1898 they had moved to Leicestershire and subsequetnly had > three sons, Did the Rector move at the same period? > Are there any records for Wichling on line for this period. > Lots of questions I know but if one doesn't ask one doesn't get. > Thanks for your time in reading this request. > peter elliott > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Peter, >From my research on domestic coachmen from my own family history, it is very probable that for some reason or other your coachman was offered a better paid job, possibly by a visitor staying at the rectory. One of my men moved to Nottinghamshire where he married. He moved from there to Lincoln and then to Sleaford. By 1901 he had possibly retired and was living in Doncaster. There he was driving horse drawn busses. He died 1902 having been born near Faversham, Kent. Two of his sons became grooms/coachmen on large estates in the Midlands. Good huntin' Dennis Bramble. ----- Original Message ----- From: "PETER ELLIOTT" <peterg45@btinternet.com> To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 9:17 AM Subject: [KENT-ENG] Joseph Richmond Wichling Rectory > Hi everyone, > I'm new to this list and wonder if anybody can assist with my query. > We have an August 1897 marriage certificate of Sarah Ann Wall (widow, nee > McGilloway) marrying Joseph Richmond (36, father william deceased farm > labourer) at register office Hollingbourne. > Residence for Joseph (a domstic coachman) is Wichling Rectory and for > Sarah Ann is just Wichling. > What we are looking for is was Joseph emploed by the Rector, if so how > long? > Did his family come from the Kent area? what was Sarah Ann doing in > Wichling as her marriage to L A Wall had been in Winchester. > We know that by 1898 they had moved to Leicestershire and subsequetnly had > three sons, Did the Rector move at the same period? > Are there any records for Wichling on line for this period. > Lots of questions I know but if one doesn't ask one doesn't get. > Thanks for your time in reading this request. > peter elliott > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email >

Thanks Charani, I was not sure what had been transferred. I do know that I was a fan of FHOL, but couldn't find things I had access to before when it was taken over by FMP. If this is the case, it seems such a shame we have lost some online resources (especially for us expats). Thankfully we have some wonderful county Family history societies with more and more information available. Cheers pam from Adelaide Australia Some, possibly the majority, of the parish register entries were transferred to FMP but not all. Some of the FHSs refused to allow their transcripts to be passsed on. I don't know if any of the references for the 1801-1831 censuses were transferred as well. Maybe Andy Hedgcock would be able to help. There is a booklet (a Gibson Guide, IIRC) which gives details of the survival of the early censuses.

Thanks for the correction. I must have got the wrong Jane from the two on the page. Regards, Dave From: Suzannah Foad Sent: Fri 19/03/2010 01:29 To: Francesco Acciarito; KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] MILLER Lilleford Miller Jane Ann Burrows 27 October 1839 Age FULL AGE FULL AGE Profession Mariner Father William Miller Benjmin Barrows Fathers Profession Mariner Farmer Parish Church St Peter Witnesses George Chapman & Sarah Love