Many thanks Karen; that was quick! I appreciate your looking for me; another pair of eyes, as they say. GEORGE would still be a young man in 71, I wonder what happened? Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Cook To: John Richardson ; KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Brooks Hi John I've had a quick look and found George (Jun) in the 71 and 81 still in Brabourne, and his widow Hannah and several children in the 1891. Best wishes, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Richardson" <jjminfiek@ntlworld.com> To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 1:05 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] Brooks > Hello the Kent list, > > I have the family of a GEORGE BROOKS (aged 36) on the 1861 census; with > his wife EMMA (aged 34). There are four children ELIZABETH (aged 11) > CHARLES (AGED 9) who I am researching, GEORGE, (AGED 6) and ADELAIDE (aged > 1) > > They are living in the parish of Waltham with a Bridge registration > district. GEORGE is said to have been born at Brabourne. > > > The whole family seems to have vanished by the time of the 1871 census! > CHARLES, I know did join the Army. > > Could anyone help? I thought that there might have been some sort of local > tradgedy. > > A steer in the right direction would be most appreciated. > > Thanks in advance > > John Richardson > Eaton Socon > Cambridgeshire > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Doe anyone have this couple on their tree, or provide any further clues as to their whereabouts prior to, or after the 1861 census? Johanna COOK is listed as having been born in c1833 in Frinsbury, Kent, but it may be a mis-spelling of Frindsbury. William J COOK is listed as a Mariner, born in Clapham, Surrey c1831. The couple were living in Love Lane, Milton near Sittingbourne which was near Kings Mill. I haven't been able to find a marriage on freebmd and have considered that perhaps there hadn't been one. I have also considered that COOK may in actual fact be COCK, but again haven't found a marriage. I have a missing branch on my tree and this couple may hold the key to a mystery. I have no experience with tracing mariners ... it's looking like a giant black hole at the moment!!!!!!! Many thanks Beth

Hi John I've had a quick look and found George (Jun) in the 71 and 81 still in Brabourne, and his widow Hannah and several children in the 1891. Best wishes, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Richardson" <jjminfiek@ntlworld.com> To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 1:05 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] Brooks > Hello the Kent list, > > I have the family of a GEORGE BROOKS (aged 36) on the 1861 census; with > his wife EMMA (aged 34). There are four children ELIZABETH (aged 11) > CHARLES (AGED 9) who I am researching, GEORGE, (AGED 6) and ADELAIDE (aged > 1) > > They are living in the parish of Waltham with a Bridge registration > district. GEORGE is said to have been born at Brabourne. > > > The whole family seems to have vanished by the time of the 1871 census! > CHARLES, I know did join the Army. > > Could anyone help? I thought that there might have been some sort of local > tradgedy. > > A steer in the right direction would be most appreciated. > > Thanks in advance > > John Richardson > Eaton Socon > Cambridgeshire > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello the Kent list, I have the family of a GEORGE BROOKS (aged 36) on the 1861 census; with his wife EMMA (aged 34). There are four children ELIZABETH (aged 11) CHARLES (AGED 9) who I am researching, GEORGE, (AGED 6) and ADELAIDE (aged 1) They are living in the parish of Waltham with a Bridge registration district. GEORGE is said to have been born at Brabourne. The whole family seems to have vanished by the time of the 1871 census! CHARLES, I know did join the Army. Could anyone help? I thought that there might have been some sort of local tradgedy. A steer in the right direction would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance John Richardson Eaton Socon Cambridgeshire

Hello I am searching for information on Herne Bay Pier Tap Hotel. In 1851/61 the hotel was run by my ggg grandfather. I am looking for any info regarding this period in time and hopefully a photo of the Hotel. My GGG G randfathers name was John Rowland he was married to Mary Anne ? They had several children. I am fascinated to learn about this part of my pas Thank you Shirly Wall

Catherine Randall wrote: > Can anyone tell me if, when a couple had a child baptised in 1801, > did they have to show proof of marriage. Unlikely unless the incumbent had a suspicion the couple weren't married. > If they arrived as a > couple with two children for the baptism and not yet married ,would > the bap. indicate that the child/ren was/were base born? If the incumbent wasn't aware the couple were unmarried, the children wouldn't have been shown in the baptismal register as base born. That would only happen if he knew. > I'm trying to locate a marriage and hope to narrow the search. Sorry, I haven't narrowed the search for you. The couple may have married in another parish other than the one in which they were normally resident for some reason: work, under age, parental disapproval, within the forbidden degrees. If you were to name the family in question and give full details of who the children were, when they were baptised and where, someone may be able to help you find them. With such nebulous information, it's hard to give much constructive assistance. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hi all I have no connection. Cheers Andy Colonel John BODY. D.S.O. & bar, O.B.E., T.D., J.P. 5th Bn, EAST KENT REGIMENT. (T.F.) Distinguished Service Order (GV) with second award clasp. Order of the British Empire (Military Division) Officer (OBE), 1st type Britannia, silver gilt, hallmark for London 1919. 1914- 15 Star: Captain, E. Kent R., BWM & Victory Medals (with Mention in Despatches oakleaves): Lt Col. GSM 1st type (GV) clasp KURDISTAN: Lt Col. 1935 Silver Jubilee Medal, 1937 Coronation Medal, Territorial Decoration (GV) silver gilt hallmark for London 1919, Special Constabulary Medal GV coinage head: John Body. Born: 27th August 1875. Eldest son of John Body, J.P., and Mary Body; Educated Tonbridge School: Entered Army, January 1894: Served European War 1914-19. Lieutenant Colonel, 1/5th Buff. In Command from 31st October 1916. Served four years in Mesopotamia (30 November 1915 to 31st October 1918.): Commanded his Battalion, which was the first to enter and occupy Baghdad on the 10th of March 1917: Then June to August 1919, was in command of a column (known as Body's Column) against Sheik Mahmud's followers in Southern Kurdistan: Commanded 5 Bn Buffs (TA) 1916-22. Hon. Colonel 4 Bn Buff since 1934. Club: Junior Army And Navy Club. Married 1901 Mabel , daughter of Trayton Kenward JP of Icklesham, Sussex. Despatches. After the Armistice was Master of the Tigris Vale Foxhounds in Mesopotamia. Justice of the Peace for Kent. Deputy Lord Lieutenant for Kent. Residing at Wittersham Court, Wittersham, Kent. (telephone no. Wittersham 6.)

Can anyone tell me if, when a couple had a child baptised in 1801, did they have to show proof of marriage. If they arrived as a couple with two children for the baptism and not yet married ,would the bap. indicate that the child/ren was/were base born? I'm trying to locate a marriage and hope to narrow the search. Thanks for any help. Catherine

Hi Nivard, many thanks for the assistance. I was wondering if there was another letter between the m and the r of BEMROSE? Perhaps BEMBROSE? Thanks again for your help. Neil -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 28 March 2010 12:11 To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com; Kent-L; Essex Rootsweb Subject: Re: [MDX] Marriage lookup request thanks and followup I would say witnesses are :- E.J. BEMROSE & Mary Ann SPENCE Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Good day fellow researchers, > > many thanks to everyone who replied to my requests on the marriage of > Penelope Dodd. > As a follow up I wonder if anyone can help me interpret the witnesses. > The image is available to anyone with an Ancestry Premium or Worldwide > membership. > > As a reminder the details are: > > Marriage: William Tillett and Penelope Dodd. > St Pancras Parish Church. > 1st January, 1860 > > I would be very grateful for any help on this. > > Many thanks in advance. > > Neil ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2774 - Release Date: 03/27/10 20:32:00

Good day fellow researchers, many thanks to everyone who replied to my requests on the marriage of Penelope Dodd. As a follow up I wonder if anyone can help me interpret the witnesses. The image is available to anyone with an Ancestry Premium or Worldwide membership. As a reminder the details are: Marriage: William Tillett and Penelope Dodd. St Pancras Parish Church. 1st January, 1860 I would be very grateful for any help on this. Many thanks in advance. Neil

cant help with Thisleton but do research on Twisletons in Yorkshire please get back to me if that rings any bells Cheryl ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lozzie55@aol.com> To: <KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 6:59 AM Subject: [KENT-ENG] OFF TOPIC Nova Scotia help - THISTLETON > Hi > I wonder if anyone with local knowledge would be able to help > with my ancestor : > > > William Turner Thistleton, born America. > Attestation papers to serve in the Royal Marines at Chatham 1839 (when > aged 21). > Discharged 1859 as Length of service. > > I have obtained this document from Kew and place of birth is 'America, > Nova Scotia' > so a bit of a quandry to start with as I *thought* NS was Canada. > I have looked at all I can on my UK sub to Ancestry but this does not > extend to the > Canadian databases. (Particularly the tantalising 5 entries on the > Canadian Genealogy Index!!) > Please does anyone know of any free web sources I can try as I cannot > really afford to > go global on Ancestry right now. > Of particular interest are Canadian Passenger lists, parish register, > military lists of personnel in Nova > Scotia c.1817-1820 or any census type info. > > I know he was back in Rochester, Kent, UK in 1849 for his marriage to > Eleanor Goodchild > although I have never found him on any census. His wife and children are > always on their own. > > His parents William Thistleton and Ann married in Rochester, Kent 1813 > William Turner Thistleton was born c.1818 = supposed Nova Scotia > Siblings baptised in Chatham 1818 and 1823 and Knaresborough, 1831 & > 1837. > 1841 census NOT with his parents and siblings in Knaresborough, Yorks. > Fathers > occupation 'Barber P' Possibility he did this job in the armed forces, > poss R Marines > as baptism records show him as a Sergent of Marines. > > My main quest is to find evidence of his birth in Nova Scotia. > > Thank you in advance > Lozzie T > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 88 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

The PR image is on Ancestry - it reads very clearly Thomas Dodd - Dead There are also these baptisms Penelope Dodd Gender: Female Birth Date: abt 1835 Christening Date: 11 Jan 1835 Christening Place: Suffolk, England Father's Name: Stephen Dodd Mother's Name: Ann Penelope Dodd Baptism 24 Jan 1827 Lawrence Dodd, Sarah Dodd St Botolph Aldgate City of London so there were a few Penelope Dodds around. Anne South Australia Neil Bowers wrote: > Good day fellow researchers, > > if anyone is visiting the LMA in the near future I wonder if I could > possibly ask for a lookup. > I'm trying to verify the father of Penelope Dodd on her parish registry > marriage entry. > I have the LMA ref number for the fiche and the date so it shouldn't be a > long search. > > I have the Marriage certificate from the GRO and her father is given as > Thomas. >> From Census and Parish records I suspect her father was actually Stephen. > I'm hoping that there was a transcription error somewhere along the line > from the original. > > The details are: > > Marriage: William Tillett and Penelope Dodd. > St Pancras Parish Church. > 1st January, 1860 > LMA Ref: X030/48 > > Many thanks in advance. > > Neil

Robyn, before you splash out on FMP credits or a subscription, I suggest you read the notes regarding the gradual release of this database on FMP. The current batch does not cover the possible date of your veteran who it seems retired with an army pension by the time of the 1851 census. The dates ranges shown refer to when the pension was granted and not when he possibly died. So if he was born in 1785, possibly joined up around aged 18 and served the 12 years to receive a pension you should be looking for the period of around 1815-1820 give or take a few years. Date range Approx no. of Approx no. When soldier records of images available WO97 1883-1900 289,783 2,053,501 Now WO97 1901-1913 303,000 2.1 million By May 2010 WO97 1873-1882 64,000 400,000 By June 2010 WO97 1855-1872 65,000 400,000 By July 2010 WO97 1760-1854 184,000 1.2 million By April 2011 Looks like you need to wait until April next year before making a search. cheers Bob in Brisbane From: "Francesco Acciarito" <francescoacciarito@bigpond.com> To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:02 AM Subject: [KENT-ENG] Chelsea Pensioners > Hi Listers, > > I believe some records for the Pensioners have been released on Find my > Past?, so would SKS be able to do a search for me please? > I seek ANYTHING for a Charles ALEXANDER, b1785 in Calne, Wilts, and > married to Mary. He was living in Brook Sq, Southwark by the 1851 > census , his occ. listed as being a labourer (Chelsea Pensioner)....so > obviously an 'out' pensioner. > On the 1861 census, he was widowed, a Private, 76 yrs and living 'in' > at the District Royal Hosp. > I do not know exactly when he died, but there is a likely one in 1870 > in Chelsea. > > TIA, Robyn of Oz.

hi Catherine Just had a squizz on Ancestry and Baptisms 1813 - 1906 St John the Baptist Eltham High St Greenwich and Woolwich Royal arsenal and dockyard chapel Holy trinity St john St Michael and All angels St mary magdalene. So appears they are available on Ancestry. Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia Could anyone tell me if all the Woolwich parish registers circa 1770-1780 are now on line and contained within Greenwich or is this just a partial and the rest are elsewhere. If so, are they searchable on-line? Thanks. Catherine

Hello List, At 02:59 PM 3/27/2010, Lozzie55@aol.com wrote: >I wonder if anyone with local knowledge would be able to help >with my ancestor : >William Turner Thistleton, born America. >Attestation papers to serve in the Royal Marines at Chatham 1839 (when >aged 21). Discharged 1859 as Length of service. I have sent some info to Lozzie off list, because it was a large file. Cheers, Jim

Hi I wonder if anyone with local knowledge would be able to help with my ancestor : William Turner Thistleton, born America. Attestation papers to serve in the Royal Marines at Chatham 1839 (when aged 21). Discharged 1859 as Length of service. I have obtained this document from Kew and place of birth is 'America, Nova Scotia' so a bit of a quandry to start with as I *thought* NS was Canada. I have looked at all I can on my UK sub to Ancestry but this does not extend to the Canadian databases. (Particularly the tantalising 5 entries on the Canadian Genealogy Index!!) Please does anyone know of any free web sources I can try as I cannot really afford to go global on Ancestry right now. Of particular interest are Canadian Passenger lists, parish register, military lists of personnel in Nova Scotia c.1817-1820 or any census type info. I know he was back in Rochester, Kent, UK in 1849 for his marriage to Eleanor Goodchild although I have never found him on any census. His wife and children are always on their own. His parents William Thistleton and Ann married in Rochester, Kent 1813 William Turner Thistleton was born c.1818 = supposed Nova Scotia Siblings baptised in Chatham 1818 and 1823 and Knaresborough, 1831 & 1837. 1841 census NOT with his parents and siblings in Knaresborough, Yorks. Fathers occupation 'Barber P' Possibility he did this job in the armed forces, poss R Marines as baptism records show him as a Sergent of Marines. My main quest is to find evidence of his birth in Nova Scotia. Thank you in advance Lozzie T

Does anyone know if there were registers kept of nannies in about 1919? Heather In storm ravaged Perth Western Australia

Hi Lozzie, Have you posted to Mail Lists. / Message Boards for Nova Scotia? Nova Scotia GenWeb - is an excellent reference resource http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~canns/ At 10:59 AM 27/03/2010, Lozzie55@aol.com wrote: >Hi >I wonder if anyone with local knowledge would be able to help >with my ancestor : > > >William Turner Thistleton, born America. >Attestation papers to serve in the Royal Marines at Chatham 1839 (when >aged 21). >Discharged 1859 as Length of service. > >I have obtained this document from Kew and place of birth is 'America, >Nova Scotia' >so a bit of a quandry to start with as I *thought* NS was Canada. >I have looked at all I can on my UK sub to Ancestry but this does not >extend to the >Canadian databases. (Particularly the tantalising 5 entries on the >Canadian Genealogy Index!!) >Please does anyone know of any free web sources I can try as I cannot >really afford to >go global on Ancestry right now. >Of particular interest are Canadian Passenger lists, parish register, >military lists of personnel in Nova >Scotia c.1817-1820 or any census type info. > >I know he was back in Rochester, Kent, UK in 1849 for his marriage to >Eleanor Goodchild >although I have never found him on any census. His wife and children are >always on their own. > >His parents William Thistleton and Ann married in Rochester, Kent 1813 >William Turner Thistleton was born c.1818 = supposed Nova Scotia >Siblings baptised in Chatham 1818 and 1823 and Knaresborough, 1831 & 1837. >1841 census NOT with his parents and siblings in Knaresborough, Yorks. >Fathers >occupation 'Barber P' Possibility he did this job in the armed forces, >poss R Marines >as baptism records show him as a Sergent of Marines. > >My main quest is to find evidence of his birth in Nova Scotia. > >Thank you in advance >Lozzie T > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, I just wanted to thank Jennifer, Brenda and Michael for their responses on my search. It is very much appreciated. Neil

Hi. I think it would depend if the Nanny had had formal training. The top Nanny training college was the Norland College - their website has a history page and may have lists of enrolled students. http://www.norland.co.uk/home-120.html But I suspect it was also possible to do the job as an unqualified person, so you may have no luck. -- Anne ---- Heather Horseman <HeatherMT@bigpond.com> wrote: > Does anyone know if there were registers kept of nannies in about 1919? > >