Here is a l ittle feedback which may be useful to others at some time: Following the helpful responses on this list to my original posting I contacted Lewisham Local Studies by email and the librarian was able to give me the details I wanted from the marriage register the same day (at no charge ) and added his own helpful comments, including: "'Of this parish' is not to be taken too seriously in Lee, where there was a tiny population and a large number of marriages." Well done Lewisham, and thanks to Anne, Charani and Judy for their help. Best wishes to all listers, Robert Hillier

You could try using "Babelfish" - on line computer translation - although it might have difficulty if you are going very far back. (Also - I seem to remember that Bavarian and Austria have dialects somewhat different to "standard" German) In message <4BCD9761.5040200@blueyonder.co.uk>, gary hodge <jhdl10848@blueyonder.co.uk> writes >Hi > >How do I go about getting german records .in english if pos. > >gary hodge > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Chris Whitehead

Hello, I have few details of this couple beyond knowing that Ann was the daughter of my ancestors,Thos. Ridout, surgeon and his wife, Jane Wanstall, and that she was born at Herne around 1799 and I believe the married at Southampton in 1841; it is therefore unlikely they had children. Ten years later, in the 1851 census, she was shown as being a widow If anyone has information on Thos. Powney I should like to hear from them. Thanks, Nick

Now that we have been able to name the Churchyard I was viewing yesterday , I have posted some graves I photographed below, in the hope they may help someone. Suzannah 1. Sacred to the memory of Henrietta wife of George MACKINTOSH who died in childbed the 28th January 1819 aged 20 years Whilst in this world I did remain My latter days was grief and pain When the Lord did think it best He took me a place of rest. (photo) 2. In memory of Thomas RANSLEY Of this parish Who died March ? 1828 Aged 47 years Also of Mary SAVAGE Relict of the above Thomas RANSLEY Who died Jan 9th 1852 Aged 63 years Left issue by Mary his wife, 3 daughters Eliza Ann, Mary and Sarah (Photo) 3. In memory of Mary Ann, wife of John AMIES, Paper Mould Maker Who departed this life the 14th October 182? Aged 35 years Also of the above named John AMIES Who died February 20th 1828 Aged 41 years. Left issue three children (viz) John Joseph and Mary 4. Sacred the memory of Edward CHURMS Who died Feb 8th 1830 Aged 46 years Also George WESTON Who died March 13th 1822 Aged 2 years Also William John The son of Charles and Elizabeth HOMER Who died December 9th 1848 Aged 12 years (photo) 5. Sacred to the memory of John, son of Sarah BRANN of this parish Who died Jan 1st 1832 Aged 10 years (photo) 6. Sacred to the memory of Sapientia Wife of John Thomas MERRALL Of this parish, who died December 4th 1848 Aged 39 years Also Elizabeth, daughter of the above named Who died June 3rd 1839 aged 7 years Also of John Thomas, son of the above Who died June 23rd 1839 aged 4 years. 7. In memory of Henry Son of James and Mary RAYFIELD Who died Feb 23rd 1832 aged 3 y and 3 m Also, John their son Who died Feb 25th 1832 aged 1 y 6m (photo) 8. Sacred to the memory of George and John Son of Mr John Carpenter JENKINS Of Clifford in the County of Hereford George died at Maidstone April 29th 1815 aged 19 years John died at Wilton nr Sittingbourne May 10th 1815 aged 21 years (photo) 9. Sacred to the memory of James DAVIS  Who departed this life 13th September 1827 In the 52 year of his age He left a wife who laments his body Also of Susan DAVIS, wife of the above Died Jan 22nd 1844 aged 70 year (photo) 10. Erected to the memory of John POPE Son of the late Thomas POPE Esq (of In Park in the parish of Cattistock in the County of Dorset) Who after a few hours severe suffering died on 18th July 1832 Aged 22 years In the midst of life we are in death. (photo) 11. Sacred to the memory of Alice RUSSELL Wife of Samuel RUSSELL of this parish Who died November 1st 1848 aged 69 years Beneath lies all that mortality can claim of a kind of parent Also of the above named Samuel RUSSELL Who died April 21st 1850 aged 76 years (photo)

Listers: I'm having difficulty finding the burials for Woolwich 1800-1812. Is there a secret to finding them? Catherine

You have a choice of Knightrider Baptist Church or All Saints Parish Church. The Baptist Church is named as Maidstone Baptist Church on Google, with a carpark to the left and behind it. All Saints was the original parish church for Maidstone and has the river on the left of it. I'm sure that both of these churches are still in operation. Was the Archbishop's Palace ever used as a church? Bsck in the 1960s Archbishop's Palace was the place where one went to take Music exams! Lesley On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:14 PM, PJK:o)) <patinkent@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > It sounds like it could be Archbishop's Palace to me - that's in Palace > Street/Mill Street. It used to be part of the Manor of Maidstone, built in > the late 14th century & is now Kent Register Office. > > Pat.xxx :o)) > A Maid of Kent. > > I am sorry if this is vague. I am hoping someone with knowledge of > Maidstone > can tell me about a building which I came across yesterday. > It was on the corner of Mill Street and Palace street and seems to have > been > a church. Its graveyard has been turned into a very nice public garden and > had gravestones around the walls and a huge yew tree. > There is a car park right by it.? I tried googling it and also found a > aerial view, I couldn't locate its name. > > Suzannah > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2822 - Release Date: 04/20/10 > 07:31:00 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Noeline, I don't know if you want/need information on these families prior to 1881 but here goes. William was the son of Henry PERKS and Mary JONES. Henry and Mary married in 1845 Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1845 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jones Mary Greenwich 5 348 Perks Henry Greenwich 5 348 Henry had previously been married to Frances EVE Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1841 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eve Frances Lewisham 5 265 Perks Henry Lewisham 5 265 And they had one son Henry Peel PERKS Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1842 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Perks Henry Peel Lewisham 5 289 Frances dies same quarter that Henry was born Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Mar 1842 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PERKS Frances Lewisham 5 219 1841 England Census Name: Frances Eve Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Gender: Female Where born: Kent, England Civil parish: Plumstead Hundred: Lessness County/Island: Kent Registration district: Lewisham Sub-registration district: Plumstead Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Frances Eve 20 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 484; Book: 18; Civil Parish: Plumstead; County: Kent; Enumeration District: 1 2 3; Folio: 8; Page: 10; Line: 24; GSU roll: 306876. 1841 England Census Name: Henry Peeks Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Gender: Male Where born: Kent, England Civil parish: Plumstead Hundred: Lessness County/Island: Kent Registration district: Lewisham Sub-registration district: Plumstead Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Jones 15 George Bodle 25 Butcher Henry Peeks 20 Carpenter William Bassett 40 Joseph Field 40 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 484; Book: 18; Civil Parish: Plumstead; County: Kent; Enumeration District: 1 2 3; Folio: 8; Page: 10; Line: 24; GSU roll: 306876. Henry PERKS, Frances EVE and Mary JONES were all on the same census page in 1841. 1851 England Census Name: Henry Perks Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1819 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Erith, Kent, England Civil parish: Plumstead County/Island: Kent Registration district: Lewisham Sub-registration district: Plumstead ED, institution, or vessel: 2f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 124 Household Members: Name Age Henry Perks 32 Carpenter born Erith Mary Perks 25 Henry P Perks 9 James F Perks 3 Alfred G Perks 2 George Bodle 38 Butcher 1861 England Census Name: William Perks Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relation: Son Father's Name: Henry Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Plumstead, Kent, England Civil parish: Plumstead County/Island: Kent Registration district: Lewisham Sub-registration district: Plumstead ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 124 Household Members: Name Age Henry Perks 42 Carpenter born Sidcup Mary Perks 36 William Perks 7 William Jones 73 Father In Law born Swanley Kent Henry How 17 1871 England Census Name: William Perks Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation: Son Father's Name: Henry Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Plumstead, Kent, England Civil parish: Plumstead Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Woolwich Sub-registration district: Plumstead, East ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household schedule number: 265 Household Members: Name Age Henry Perks 32 Carpenter born Bexley Mary Perks 46 William Perks 18 Fitter William Jones 86 Father In Law Mary's father William JONES dies in 1871 and William's father Henry dies in 1875. Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Dec 1872 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JONES William 88 Woolwich 1d 530 Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Mar 1875 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Perks Henry 58 Woolwich 1d 740 Susannah was the daughter of Joseph JOHNSON and Elizabeth May. Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1840 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JOHNSON Joseph Sheppey 5 424 MAY Elizabeth Sheppey 5 424 Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1855 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Johnson Susannah Lewisham 1d 598 Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Johnson Susanna Woolwich 1d 1299 Perks William Woolwich 1d 1299 1841 England Census Name: Joseph Johnson Age: 3 Mo Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Gender: Male Where born: Kent, England Civil parish: St Margaret Hundred: Rochester City County/Island: Kent Registration district: Medway Sub-registration district: Rochester Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Johnson 20 Elizabeth Johnson 20 Elizabeth Johnson 2 Joseph Johnson 3 Mo 1851 England Census Name: Isabella Johnson Age: 6 Mo Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Rockester, Kent, England Civil parish: Rochester St Margaret County/Island: Kent Registration district: Medway Sub-registration district: Rochester ED, institution, or vessel: 3h Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 167 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Johnson 33 Elizabeth Johnson 31 Elizabeth Johnson 10 Joseph Johnson 8 George Johnson 7 Robert Johnson 5 John Johnson 2 Isabella Johnson 6 Mo 1861 England Census Name: Susannah Johnson Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Plumstead, Kent, England Civil parish: Plumstead County/Island: Kent Registration district: Lewisham Sub-registration district: Plumstead ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 73 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Johnson 41 Joseph Johnson 20 Robert Johnson 14 John Johnson 12 Frederick Johnson 8 Susannah Johnson 6 Selina Johnson 4 Philip Lynch 26 1871 England Census Name: Susannah Johnson Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Daughter Parent's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Chatham, Kent, England Civil parish: Plumstead Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Woolwich Sub-registration district: Plumstead, East ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household schedule number: 102 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Johnson 53 John Johnson 23 Isabella Johnson 21 Frank Johnson 18 Susannah Johnson 16 Selina Johnson 13 Hope this all helps and that it is not replicating what you already know. Cheers Dallas in Rockhampton -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Noeline Mullins Sent: Tuesday, 20 April 2010 09:58 AM To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com Subject: [KENT-ENG] My Family. Hi everyone I am looking for any info regarding my families. If anyone had any info regarding these family I would be over the moon.. 1881 Census: 22 Story Street, East Ham, Essex,England. William PERKS, Head,M,M, 28yrs, Plumstead,Kent,England. Hammerman Iron ? Susannah PERKS, Wife,F,M, Plumstead,Ken t,England. Mary PERKS, Daur,F, 5yrs, Plumstead,Kent. England. 1891 Census: Woolwich,St. Nicholas,Plumstead,England. William PERKS, Head,M,M, 37yrs, Hammerman Arsenal Smith. Sussannah PERKS,Wife,M,F, 36yrs,Plumstead,Kent,England. Mary PERKS, Daur,F, 15yrs, Plumstead,Kent,England. 1901 Census: Dartford Division:St.John's Erith,Kent. Address: 16 Landscliff Road. Henry Urquhart, Head, M,M, 31yrs, Blacksmith Worker, Scotland. Mary Urquhart, Wife,F,M, 25yrs,Plumstead,Kent,England. Jessie Urquhart.F.S, 1yr. Erith,Kent,England. Rachel Urquhart,Daur, F,S, 6 Months,Erith,Kent,England. Birth: Jessie Susannah Urquhart,Dartford, Dec: 1899 Rachel Perks Urquhart, Born: Dec 1900, Dartford. Hoping someone might have some connections etc. Regards, Noeline kiwi in Brisbane. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

WYATT.FAMILY wrote: > > > Hi > > I am looking for a church that the following marriage would of > taken place, so then I can look up City Ark Records > > SADGROVE William WYATT Charlotte March 1/4 1843 Medway R/district, > vol 5 page 344 If you click on the registration district in FreeBMD, then the link for more which will take you to the relevant GENUKI page, it will tell you the places that the RD covers. The main towns are Rochester, Chatham, Gillingham, Strood and Rainham, collectively known as the Medway Towns or simply Medway. Then there are the smaller places such as Hoo. There's often more than one church in each place so you'll need to watch when the records start for each one. If you can find the couple in the 85 census, that might give you a better starting place, esp if you are sure they did marry each other When looking for a church where a marriage would have, or could have, taken place, I always start with Rochester and work out from there. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

It sounds like it could be Archbishop's Palace to me - that's in Palace Street/Mill Street. It used to be part of the Manor of Maidstone, built in the late 14th century & is now Kent Register Office. Pat.xxx :o)) A Maid of Kent. I am sorry if this is vague. I am hoping someone with knowledge of Maidstone can tell me about a building which I came across yesterday. It was on the corner of Mill Street and Palace street and seems to have been a church. Its graveyard has been turned into a very nice public garden and had gravestones around the walls and a huge yew tree. There is a car park right by it.? I tried googling it and also found a aerial view, I couldn't locate its name. Suzannah ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2822 - Release Date: 04/20/10 07:31:00

gary hodge wrote: > Hi > > How do I go about getting german records .in english if pos. Try the German list. All records will be in German but list members would be able to translate for you if the German authorities can't provide a translation. This will take you to all the German lists available: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/DEU/ Otherwise go to http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/index.html Or more specifically: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/DEU/DEUTSCHLAND.html As with many lists, it's very quiet and despite it saying the language is "strictly German", every post I looked at was in English! There's also a newsgroup for Germany which is gatewayed to Rootsweb. I've had a lot of help from them with past queries: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Newsgroup_Gateways/GEN-DE.html There's a mix of German and English language there. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hi How do I go about getting german records .in english if pos. gary hodge

I am sorry if this is vague. I am hoping someone with knowledge of Maidstone can tell me about a building which I came across yesterday. It was on the corner of Mill Street and Palace street and seems to have been a church. Its graveyard has been turned into a very nice public garden and had gravestones around the walls and a huge yew tree. There is a car park right by it.? I tried googling it and also found a aerial view, I couldn't locate its name. Suzannah

Hi everyone I am looking for any info regarding my families. If anyone had any info regarding these family I would be over the moon.. 1881 Census: 22 Story Street, East Ham, Essex,England. William PERKS, Head,M,M, 28yrs, Plumstead,Kent,England. Hammerman Iron ? Susannah PERKS, Wife,F,M, Plumstead,Ken t,England. Mary PERKS, Daur,F, 5yrs, Plumstead,Kent. England. 1891 Census: Woolwich,St. Nicholas,Plumstead,England. William PERKS, Head,M,M, 37yrs, Hammerman Arsenal Smith. Sussannah PERKS,Wife,M,F, 36yrs,Plumstead,Kent,England. Mary PERKS, Daur,F, 15yrs, Plumstead,Kent,England. 1901 Census: Dartford Division:St.John's Erith,Kent. Address: 16 Landscliff Road. Henry Urquhart, Head, M,M, 31yrs, Blacksmith Worker, Scotland. Mary Urquhart, Wife,F,M, 25yrs,Plumstead,Kent,England. Jessie Urquhart.F.S, 1yr. Erith,Kent,England. Rachel Urquhart,Daur, F,S, 6 Months,Erith,Kent,England. Birth: Jessie Susannah Urquhart,Dartford, Dec: 1899 Rachel Perks Urquhart, Born: Dec 1900, Dartford. Hoping someone might have some connections etc. Regards, Noeline kiwi in Brisbane.

Hi Linda, There are online indexes of some of the CityArk marriages at http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fleming/cityark.htm and if you look through the Medway RD lists you will find the marriage you are seeking. Keith -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of WYATT.FAMILY Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:47 To: KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com Subject: [KENT-ENG] Fw: Looking for a church in 1843 Hi I am looking for a church that the following marriage would of taken place, so then I can look up City Ark Records SADGROVE William WYATT Charlotte March 1/4 1843 Medway R/district, vol 5 page 344 Thanking you Linda Wyatt New Zealand. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hello listers, On 21 NOV 1803 Saint Mary The Virgin, Dover, Kent, William BAKER married Mary PATTEN As far as I can tell, they had at least two children: Joseph Patten BAKER baptised 11 Sep 1814 in Woodnesborough William BAKER baptised 11 Feb 1816 in Woodnesborough Is anyone able to confirm if they had any other children and the details of those children? And does anyone have an image of the marriage detail? Many thanks Allison

Hi All I am researching the POUT families for my website. I have Henry POUT, who consistently says on census returns that he was born 1822 at Tylers Hill, (in the parish of St Stephen, Hackington). I suspect that he is the son of William POUT and his wife Elizabeth (nee EWELL), but without access to the registers for Hackington I cannot confirm this. Can anybody help please? All the best Dave Dixon BA (hons) - Economic & Social History - University of Kent - Canterbury 1997 www.fadedgenes.co.uk

The registers are at Lewisham Local Studies. As you have the exact date, they might do a quick lookup for you. http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/LeisureAndCulture/LocalHistoryAndHeritage/ HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Hillier Dear Listers, I'm not sure if this list or the London list is the right place to ask......... I would be very grateful for a lookup of the marriage register for St Margaret's church, Lee. The IGI gives Richard John Rand married Sophia Martha Hillier at Lee 5th Feb 1827. I've just realised that if the register gives Sophia's father's name an obstinate brick wall comes tumbling down. Witness names could also be helpful, if I'm lucky, so every scrap of info from the register is of great interest to me. I'm hoping that I can establish that Sophia is related to one of the Thames watermen Hillier families.

Robert Hillier wrote: > Dear Listers, I'm not sure if this list or the London list is the > right place to ask......... I would be very grateful for a lookup > of the marriage register for St Margaret's church, Lee. > > The IGI gives Richard John Rand married Sophia Martha Hillier at > Lee 5th Feb 1827. I've just realised that if the register gives > Sophia's father's name an obstinate brick wall comes tumbling down. > It's not likely to at that date unless he was of some standing in his community. > Witness names could also be helpful, if I'm lucky, so every scrap > of info from the register is of great interest to me. There will be witnesses. > I'm hoping that I can establish that Sophia is related to one of > the Thames watermen Hillier families. Have you had a look on the Docklands Ancestors site which also have information about Thames watermen and lightermen? http://www.parishregister.com/ -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Dear Listers, I'm not sure if this list or the London list is the right place to ask......... I would be very grateful for a lookup of the marriage register for St Margaret's church, Lee. The IGI gives Richard John Rand married Sophia Martha Hillier at Lee 5th Feb 1827. I've just realised that if the register gives Sophia's father's name an obstinate brick wall comes tumbling down. Witness names could also be helpful, if I'm lucky, so every scrap of info from the register is of great interest to me. I'm hoping that I can establish that Sophia is related to one of the Thames watermen Hillier families. Best wishes, Robert Hillier who recommends the ENG-THAMESWATERMEN list for those with Thames watermen interests

Hi list, the Yesterdays site, link below, has been updated with various records which include the apprenticeship of a GROOMBRIDGE from West Farleigh. Other persons from Kent also appear in the pages. If link fails, Google "Yesterdays Journey". mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm