Hi Trish I,ve been thinking how john met and married a Annie Elizabeth STOYEL in 1890 from another lister, Could he have met her on board the "Dacca", doe,s she appear amongst the passengers list, or maybe on another ship? thanking you for your kind help. Gary Hodge On 10/05/2010 11:26, symonds3 wrote: > Hi again Gary, > Okay, I have him now - > John V. ROGERS, aged 39, arrived in Queensland aboard the "Dacca" on 14th > December 1887. > I've checked Qld BMDs, no death, marriage or children born to John V. > ROGERS. > Plenty of entries with John only though in all categories, so his parents' > names might help identify him. > Now you have a starting point, you might try joining the Queensland list - > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD.html > Cheers > Trish > Nowra NSW > > > >>>> how do I research his new marriage? or his death there?. >>>> His name was John (v) ROGERS , born shropshire 1947, he married Agatha >>>> Teague b 1846 >>>> G.Hodge >>>> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

This to the Kent listers, he's been found in Victoria. Robyn of Oz. > > Hi Gary, > > I agree, it appears he was John Valentine Rogers. I found a > re-marriage for him in Victoria in 1890, to Annie Elizabeth STOYEL. > Reg. no. is 6820. Annie was born in Tiverton, Eng. > They had 2 children, both born at Williamstown, an outer western > suburb of Melbourne. Charles Sydney was born in 1892, then Benjamin in > 1894. > Haven't found deaths yet for any of them yet, but am happy to look > further if you want. > Can you give me John's age from the 1891 census, it will help. Also > did agatha die in Eng or Aust? Any children? > The more details you give me the better I can help you.

Hi Andy, My first guess was the V probably stood for Valentine, if he was born on Valentine's Day. Nothing in the Qld BMD's with the parents' names you provided, thanks for that info. NSW has nothing with the parents' names, but a number of deaths for John ROGERS with parents unknown. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Hi Trish > His parents were Roberts ROGERS and Martha BALL. > > There are a couple of Family Trees with John V ROGERS included but non > have more details than his first wife Agatha. I've tried to find out what > the V stands for but no joy. > HTH > Andy

Gary, There is a John Valentine ROGERS, a blacksmith, living at 133 North Road, Newport, Melbourne in 1903 Electoral Roll. This is the only mention of him on the rolls. Hope this helps. Wendy > I have an ancestor who scarpered to australia on the promise he would > send for his wife ,when settled in and was working!!, however he did > not ,I guess he met someone else there , or maybe even died soon after > arriving there, .his birthday was on valentines day and forever > afterwards on that day, his wife cursed him to hell !!. > > I have tried to find australian BMD,s ,but it seems they might have > destroyed the records (very bad), from what i can see on the web., so > how do I research his new marriage? or his death there?. > His name was John (v) ROGERS , born shropshire 1947, he married Agatha > Teague b 1846 > > G.Hodge

Hi again Gary, Okay, I have him now - John V. ROGERS, aged 39, arrived in Queensland aboard the "Dacca" on 14th December 1887. I've checked Qld BMDs, no death, marriage or children born to John V. ROGERS. Plenty of entries with John only though in all categories, so his parents' names might help identify him. Now you have a starting point, you might try joining the Queensland list - http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD.html Cheers Trish Nowra NSW >>> how do I research his new marriage? or his death there?. >>> His name was John (v) ROGERS , born shropshire 1947, he married Agatha >>> Teague b 1846 >>> G.Hodge

My local library, where I happen to work, has the CD collection of the BDMs for South Australia. They cover Births - 1842 to 1928, Deaths - 1842 to 1972 and Marriages - 1842 to 1937. Cheers, Sue from Wudinna, South Australia

Chris REMEMBER that Tudley is 1.9 miles from Tonbridge and Capel is only 2.8 miles from Tonbridge..... I have found a baptism for Thomas in 1807 Tonbridge Kent to William and Sarah, which fits in well the with the 1841 census as well as ages.... First child William in 1841 named after Thomas's father..... http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true Parent search for the "prospective parents" of Thomas BEING William and SArah produced these children on the IGI 1. Frances Pearson - International Genealogical Index - British Isles Gender: Female Birth: 08 APR 1806 Tonbridge, Kent, England [Remove] 2. WM PEARSON - International Genealogical Index - British Isles Gender: Male Christening: 21 OCT 1804 Tonbridge, Kent, England [Remove] 3. Thomas Pearson - International Genealogical Index - British Isles Gender: Male Christening: 22 FEB 1807 Tonbridge, Kent, England [Remove] 4. PETER PEARSON - International Genealogical Index - British Isles Gender: Male Christening: 10 FEB 1811 Tonbridge, Kent, England Possible marriage for William and Sarah... http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true Possible marriage for Thomas and Sarah... http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia

Hi Chris Sent some possible censuses offline. Please note that some children are stated as born Capel which is only about 3 miles away.......... Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > Has anyone got a connection with, or any information, about the > PEARSON family of Tonbridge, Kent, please? > > I am particularly interested in Thomas PEARSON, born about 1806 at > Tonbridge and his wife Sarah, born about 1805 at Tonbridge. In the > 1861 Census they were living at 25 St Margarets Place, Tonbridge, > Kent [RG9/494, folio 133, page 14] with their four children (they may > have had other children):

Gary See if you can find him in here - NSW records. http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/searchHistoricalRecords.htm KInd regards Ann Spiro Perth, Western Australia research@sbse.net.au http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~blacksmiths/ The surnames BASKETT and Nutty are registered with GOONS http://www.one-name.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------

Hi Trish It looks as though Gary will never find out unless John married without the 'v' and any descendents are researching as well. Gary - might be worth joining a couple of the Aussie Rootsweb lists and putting everything together in the hope that someone may have details on the other side of the coin, as it were. Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "symonds3" <psym8950@bigpond.net.au> To: <KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] australian research how to > Hi Andy, > My first guess was the V probably stood for Valentine, if he was born on > Valentine's Day. > Nothing in the Qld BMD's with the parents' names you provided, thanks for > that info. > NSW has nothing with the parents' names, but a number of deaths for John > ROGERS with parents unknown. > Cheers > Trish > Nowra NSW > > > >> Hi Trish >> His parents were Roberts ROGERS and Martha BALL. >> >> There are a couple of Family Trees with John V ROGERS included but non >> have more details than his first wife Agatha. I've tried to find out what >> the V stands for but no joy. >> HTH >> Andy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Dave Your BA Hons , was not wasted , many thanks. G.hodge On 10/05/2010 12:13, Dave Dixon wrote: > As he was born 14th February my money is on him being John Valentine ROGERS > > All the best > Dave Dixon > BA (hons) - Economic& Social History - University of Kent - Canterbury 1997 > > www.fadedgenes.co.uk > > > On 10 May 2010 11:52, Andy Hedgcock<andy701@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > >> Hi Trish >> His parents were Roberts ROGERS and Martha BALL. >> >> There are a couple of Family Trees with John V ROGERS included but non have >> more details than his first wife Agatha. I've tried to find out what the V >> stands for but no joy. >> HTH >> Andy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "symonds3"<psym8950@bigpond.net.au> >> To:<KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:26 AM >> Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] australian research how to >> >> >> >>> Hi again Gary, >>> Okay, I have him now - >>> John V. ROGERS, aged 39, arrived in Queensland aboard the "Dacca" on 14th >>> December 1887. >>> I've checked Qld BMDs, no death, marriage or children born to John V. >>> ROGERS. >>> Plenty of entries with John only though in all categories, so his >>> >> parents' >> >>> names might help identify him. >>> Now you have a starting point, you might try joining the Queensland list >>> >> - >> >>> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD.html >>> Cheers >>> Trish >>> Nowra NSW >>> >>> >>> >>>>>> how do I research his new marriage? or his death there?. >>>>>> His name was John (v) ROGERS , born shropshire 1947, he married Agatha >>>>>> Teague b 1846 >>>>>> G.Hodge >>>>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

*slaps forehead* OW! ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Dixon To: Andy Hedgcock Cc: symonds3 ; KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] australian research how to As he was born 14th February my money is on him being John Valentine ROGERS All the best Dave Dixon BA (hons) - Economic & Social History - University of Kent - Canterbury 1997 www.fadedgenes.co.uk On 10 May 2010 11:52, Andy Hedgcock <andy701@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: Hi Trish His parents were Roberts ROGERS and Martha BALL. There are a couple of Family Trees with John V ROGERS included but non have more details than his first wife Agatha. I've tried to find out what the V stands for but no joy. HTH Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "symonds3" <psym8950@bigpond.net.au> To: <KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] australian research how to > Hi again Gary, > Okay, I have him now - > John V. ROGERS, aged 39, arrived in Queensland aboard the "Dacca" on 14th > December 1887. > I've checked Qld BMDs, no death, marriage or children born to John V. > ROGERS. > Plenty of entries with John only though in all categories, so his parents' > names might help identify him. > Now you have a starting point, you might try joining the Queensland list - > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD.html > Cheers > Trish > Nowra NSW > > >>>> how do I research his new marriage? or his death there?. >>>> His name was John (v) ROGERS , born shropshire 1947, he married Agatha >>>> Teague b 1846 >>>> G.Hodge > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As he was born 14th February my money is on him being John Valentine ROGERS All the best Dave Dixon BA (hons) - Economic & Social History - University of Kent - Canterbury 1997 www.fadedgenes.co.uk On 10 May 2010 11:52, Andy Hedgcock <andy701@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Trish > His parents were Roberts ROGERS and Martha BALL. > > There are a couple of Family Trees with John V ROGERS included but non have > more details than his first wife Agatha. I've tried to find out what the V > stands for but no joy. > HTH > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "symonds3" <psym8950@bigpond.net.au> > To: <KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:26 AM > Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] australian research how to > > > > Hi again Gary, > > Okay, I have him now - > > John V. ROGERS, aged 39, arrived in Queensland aboard the "Dacca" on 14th > > December 1887. > > I've checked Qld BMDs, no death, marriage or children born to John V. > > ROGERS. > > Plenty of entries with John only though in all categories, so his > parents' > > names might help identify him. > > Now you have a starting point, you might try joining the Queensland list > - > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD.html > > Cheers > > Trish > > Nowra NSW > > > > > >>>> how do I research his new marriage? or his death there?. > >>>> His name was John (v) ROGERS , born shropshire 1947, he married Agatha > >>>> Teague b 1846 > >>>> G.Hodge > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Trish His parents were Roberts ROGERS and Martha BALL. There are a couple of Family Trees with John V ROGERS included but non have more details than his first wife Agatha. I've tried to find out what the V stands for but no joy. HTH Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "symonds3" <psym8950@bigpond.net.au> To: <KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] australian research how to > Hi again Gary, > Okay, I have him now - > John V. ROGERS, aged 39, arrived in Queensland aboard the "Dacca" on 14th > December 1887. > I've checked Qld BMDs, no death, marriage or children born to John V. > ROGERS. > Plenty of entries with John only though in all categories, so his parents' > names might help identify him. > Now you have a starting point, you might try joining the Queensland list - > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD.html > Cheers > Trish > Nowra NSW > > >>>> how do I research his new marriage? or his death there?. >>>> His name was John (v) ROGERS , born shropshire 1947, he married Agatha >>>> Teague b 1846 >>>> G.Hodge > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Gary, If he was born in 1947 he could very well still be alive, not so much an ancestor as a relative - or should that be born 1847? Birth indexes are available up to 1920, marriages 1959, deaths 1979. National Archives have arrivals to 1950. I don't know if you will find him in any of these indexes, he is too recent. Australian White Pages might help - http://www.whitepages.com.au/wp/resSearch.jhtml I don't know where you got the idea of records being destroyed, totally wrong, but you may be crossing over into the area of privacy laws to protect living people. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > I have an ancestor who scarpered to australia on the promise he would > send for his wife ,when settled in and was working!!, however he did > not ,I guess he met someone else there , or maybe even died soon after > arriving there, .his birthday was on valentines day and forever > afterwards on that day, his wife cursed him to hell !!. > I have tried to find australian BMD,s ,but it seems they might have > destroyed the records (very bad), from what i can see on the web., so > how do I research his new marriage? or his death there?. > His name was John (v) ROGERS , born shropshire 1947, he married Agatha > Teague b 1846 > G.Hodge

Firstly Gary you state 1846 & 1947 for the births or John and Agnes, so which is it please..... 2. Have you any idea of when they did a bunk to Australia.....and where he went to????? 3. Your answers will dictate the reply because records are kept in various places and some are available online. It is census data that was destroyed and yes that is rather lacking foresight. A few for 1841 survice in some places....... a) My LDS has BMD's for South Australia, New South Wales and Victoria BUT only up to early 1900's if I recall correctly. Other than that it is the Library's that "may" carry more recent ones. b) Try these websites for starters http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm http://www.coraweb.com.au/bdmau.htm states and territories database information. Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > Hi > List > > I have an ancestor who scarpered to australia on the promise he would > send for his wife ,when settled in and was working!!, however he did > not ,I guess he met someone else there , or maybe even died soon after > arriving there, .his birthday was on valentines day and forever > afterwards on that day, his wife cursed him to hell !!. > > I have tried to find australian BMD,s ,but it seems they might have > destroyed the records (very bad), from what i can see on the web., so > how do I research his new marriage? or his death there?. > His name was John (v) ROGERS , born shropshire 1947, he married Agatha > Teague b 1846 > > G.Hodge > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gary Australian researched is complicated by the fact that each state looks after their own records, and consequentially what is available online varies. It's the census records that are destroyed after the statistical information is taken from them, but the BMD records are available depending on where your relatives lived. Do you know where in Australia (as in what state) and what date he was there? I've done some Aussie research (from London) so I'll see what guidance I can give. Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "gary hodge" <jhdl10848@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 6:10 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] australian research how to > Hi > List > > I have an ancestor who scarpered to australia on the promise he would > send for his wife ,when settled in and was working!!, however he did > not ,I guess he met someone else there , or maybe even died soon after > arriving there, .his birthday was on valentines day and forever > afterwards on that day, his wife cursed him to hell !!. > > I have tried to find australian BMD,s ,but it seems they might have > destroyed the records (very bad), from what i can see on the web., so > how do I research his new marriage? or his death there?. > His name was John (v) ROGERS , born shropshire 1947, he married Agatha > Teague b 1846 > > G.Hodge > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List I have an ancestor who scarpered to australia on the promise he would send for his wife ,when settled in and was working!!, however he did not ,I guess he met someone else there , or maybe even died soon after arriving there, .his birthday was on valentines day and forever afterwards on that day, his wife cursed him to hell !!. I have tried to find australian BMD,s ,but it seems they might have destroyed the records (very bad), from what i can see on the web., so how do I research his new marriage? or his death there?. His name was John (v) ROGERS , born shropshire 1947, he married Agatha Teague b 1846 G.Hodge

Hi List In which section of Find My Past does one search for divorce records? Thanks Sharee

Hi Chris I have done quite a bit of research into this myself concerning one of my ancestors. (Notes sent off-list) The short answer is that if the divorce was a "legal" one, he should be noted as divorced on the 2nd marriage certificate, however other ways and means were still practised, and desertion or private separation may be the case, i.e. no legal annulment of the first marriage. Regards Sharee in NZ