The firm of George Tutill is still in business http://www.flags-tutill.co.uk/ why not email them and ask if they know ? They seem to have made banners for a huge number of organisations. Anne South Australia > Just a guess - Ladies Union ?Overseas? Aid Society ? > > The 1884 London Directory has George Tutill at 83 City Road, classified as an artist and in 1915 the P.O. City Directory shows him at the same address as a Banner Maker "patent woven pure silk banners" > > Anne > South Australia > > marion grenyer wrote: >> >> I am hoping somebody might be able to help with this query on the >> Kent board. >> >> A relative has a blue and white sash about 6 inches wide with the >> lettering L U O A S on it. Also there is an eight starred 'medal' >> fixed which looks like one person giving a helping hand to somebody >> on the ground. In the background there is a donkey. On the bottom of >> the sash there appears to be a 'beehive' shape in what may have been >> gold rope with tassels on the shape and also at the very bottom of >> the sash. If anybody can give me any help/information/suggestions on >> what this may have been for I would be very grateful. On the reverse >> of the sash it has G.Tutill 83 City Rd London, we have contacted the >> address but this company no longer exists. >> >> Many thanks in advance >> >> Marion

Hi Trish, My grandfather Henry Sisley BIRCH was a member of the 'Royal Antediluvian Order of the Buffalo' and when I found this out I became quite fascinated by their history and charitable activities. The D. is for my first name which I do not use. D. Stuart Hammond

Hi Trish, The reason for a donkey being depicted on the sash of the Ancient Order of Shepherds is probably based on which animal the 'good shepherd' entered Jerusalem? It is a matter of trying to put your head in the mindset of the time and at that time Christianity coloured every other consideration including friendly societies. Best D. Stuart Hammond

Marion, I believe Lozzie has it. Have a look at this link. http://www.stevengraphs.com/sasdmloyorof.html Peter Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Meaning of Initials It sound like it *may* be connected to a member of the Ancient Order of Shepherds. They wore sashes and aprons similar to Masons. See more: _http://www.historyshelf.org/shelf/friend/10.php_ (http://www.historyshelf.org/shelf/friend/10.php) Maybe try googling Anceient Order of Shepherds for more Best regards Lozzie T

Just a guess - Ladies Union ?Overseas? Aid Society ? The 1884 London Directory has George Tutill at 83 City Road, classified as an artist and in 1915 the P.O. City Directory shows him at the same address as a Banner Maker "patent woven pure silk banners" Anne South Australia marion grenyer wrote: > > I am hoping somebody might be able to help with this query on the > Kent board. > > A relative has a blue and white sash about 6 inches wide with the > lettering L U O A S on it. Also there is an eight starred 'medal' > fixed which looks like one person giving a helping hand to somebody > on the ground. In the background there is a donkey. On the bottom of > the sash there appears to be a 'beehive' shape in what may have been > gold rope with tassels on the shape and also at the very bottom of > the sash. If anybody can give me any help/information/suggestions on > what this may have been for I would be very grateful. On the reverse > of the sash it has G.Tutill 83 City Rd London, we have contacted the > address but this company no longer exists. > > Many thanks in advance > > Marion

I am hoping somebody might be able to help with this query on the Kent board. A relative has a blue and white sash about 6 inches wide with the lettering L U O A S on it. Also there is an eight starred 'medal' fixed which looks like one person giving a helping hand to somebody on the ground. In the background there is a donkey. On the bottom of the sash there appears to be a 'beehive' shape in what may have been gold rope with tassels on the shape and also at the very bottom of the sash. If anybody can give me any help/information/suggestions on what this may have been for I would be very grateful. On the reverse of the sash it has G.Tutill 83 City Rd London, we have contacted the address but this company no longer exists. Many thanks in advance Marion _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/ We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now

It sound like it *may* be connected to a member of the Ancient Order of Shepherds. They wore sashes and aprons similar to Masons. See more: _http://www.historyshelf.org/shelf/friend/10.php_ (http://www.historyshelf.org/shelf/friend/10.php) Maybe try googling Anceient Order of Shepherds for more Best regards Lozzie T

Hi listers I sent a message last month trying to find a link between ANN REDDECLIFFE and the PERCYs that she was staying with when she died The wife was ELIZABETH (nee REDDECLIFFE) so I felt sure that there was a link After a lot of research I found a Baptism entry for WILLIAM HENRY PERCY in RG4 which states the maternal grandparents and proves the link so the message is 'Thanks for all the help' and 'Don't give up on the brick walls' cheers Jean

Dear Listers Some of my family members were born at "Fourshills Fawley" - at least I think that's what the cert says. I know Fawley is in the New Forest, I have tried Google with no luck, can someone tell me what and/or where (or was) this place please? Many thanks Paulette in NZ

Hello Paulette, Purely guesswork, but it sounds to me like it may be the name of a farm they were living on at the time. The only thing I could find was an application for an extention to Four Winds, Ashlett Creek, Fawley - http://www.newforest.gov.uk/media/adobe/Bulletin%2019%20JAN%20-12%20MAR%2004.pdf The same people (Pugh) are in the Here & Now Fawley Magazine, shown at Four Winds, Stonehills, Fawley - http://www.fawleychurch.org.uk/Here_and_Now/Magazines/2005/March05.pdf Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Some of my family members were born at "Fourshills Fawley" - at least I > think that's what the cert says. I know Fawley is in the New Forest, I > have tried Google with no luck, can someone tell me what and/or where (or > was) this place please? Many thanks > Paulette in NZ

Hi Brian, Whenever I have this sort of query I always look at this site first. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/search.aspx?query=richborough In fact any query about historical figures, people, places...... Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia >I have an ancestor who place of birth, in a document c.1849, is written > down as Ridgeborough. > A general search for this place brings zero results. > However I did locate a Time Team website article that speaks of " the > Romans landed near here at Ridgeborough". > Later in the same article the placename Richborough is used. > Could someone with 'local' knowledge confirm whether these place are one > and the same and also where 'they' are located. >

Hello All, Have a look at www.kentarchaeology.org.uk well worth a visiting. There are other Parishes on this website. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

> However I did locate a Time Team website article that speaks of " the > Romans landed near here at Ridgeborough". > > Later in the same article the placename Richborough is used. Richborough is correct. It's between Sandwich and Ramsgate near the mouth of the River Stour. Richborough Castle still exists - but don't think of a Norman Castle, it's more of a mound. -Nigel

I have an ancestor who place of birth, in a document c.1849, is written down as Ridgeborough. A general search for this place brings zero results. However I did locate a Time Team website article that speaks of " the Romans landed near here at Ridgeborough". Later in the same article the placename Richborough is used. Could someone with 'local' knowledge confirm whether these place are one and the same and also where 'they' are located. BrianM

Hi Paulette, I was going to reply, but see that someone has already provided the answer I was about to give. Frequently, I seem to get "New" postings with responses tagged on. It's annoying! Any way, gripe over, I wanted to add that people are often appear in the same directory under different lists. They can be found under trades lists and under private residents' lists. It is worth checking these alphabetical and themed lists as well as the descriptions and lists for settlements because you can discover more about these people, or possibly some of their relatives. However, please remember that the commercial directories, such as Kelly's, are not comprehensive - they do not list everyone in the areas which they cover. I believe lists were filled with the names of subscribers, as well as other bits of information of use to the general public. Regards Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 17:05:49 +1200 From: Paulette Cullarn <mizp@paradise.net.nz> Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Separate listing in a Kelly's Dir, help please Thank you Chris & Adrian, that has explained it and I have learnt a bit more about using the directories too! Many thanks. Kind regards Paulette in NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: chris To: 'Paulette Cullarn' Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:17 AM Subject: RE: [KENT-ENG] Separate listing in a Kelly's Dir, help please I have just found the image, so please disregard previous e-mail. Cooling seems to be a very small parish. (No post office, no school, only 143 inhabitants). The list at the end gives the rector and all the businessmen in the parish - five farmers and a pub landlord. So your GF would have been a fairly big fish in a small pond

Thank you Chris & Adrian, that has explained it and I have learnt a bit more about using the directories too! Many thanks. Kind regards Paulette in NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: chris To: 'Paulette Cullarn' Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:17 AM Subject: RE: [KENT-ENG] Separate listing in a Kelly's Dir, help please I have just found the image, so please disregard previous e-mail. Cooling seems to be a very small parish. (No post office, no school, only 143 inhabitants). The list at the end gives the rector and all the businessmen in the parish - five farmers and a pub landlord. So your GF would have been a fairly big fish in a small pond -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paulette Cullarn Sent: 17 May 2010 09:57 To: KENT-ENG-L Subject: [KENT-ENG] Separate listing in a Kelly's Dir, help please Hello, please would some one have a look at this image of a page from Kelly's Dir? It shows my grandfather, Charles Frederick WHITE, Horseshoe & Castle PH at the end of the listing for Cooling. What I would like to know is, why was he noted again separately with these other men at the end of the listing? Was it because he was someone 'important'? Thank you, Paulette in NZ http://i41.tinypic.com/9jmao3.jpg ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Peter, I think it is Freeschool St - information taken from the enumerator's notes at the start of the census record. If you go back to the 1st image the street name is a little clearer Hope this helps Daryl from Oz -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Ryan Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 2010 1:12 AM To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com Subject: [KENT-ENG] 1841 Census Hi All, I was wondering if someone could translate/interpret an 1841 census image, please? HO107/1087/4 folio 31 page 4 for the Borough of Southwark, township of St Johns: Geo Shoobridge entry: name of the street?; his employer was Thomas Winterbotham, publican? Thanks for any assistance, Peter, Melbourne, Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, I was wondering if someone could translate/interpret an 1841 census image, please? HO107/1087/4 folio 31 page 4 for the Borough of Southwark, township of St Johns: Geo Shoobridge entry: name of the street?; his employer was Thomas Winterbotham, publican? Thanks for any assistance, Peter, Melbourne, Australia

Hi All Another page added today http://www.fadedgenes.co.uk/ArthurDanielHATTON.html All the best Dave Dixon BA (hons) - Economic & Social History - University of Kent - Canterbury 1997 www.fadedgenes.co.uk

Hello, please would some one have a look at this image of a page from Kelly's Dir? It shows my grandfather, Charles Frederick WHITE, Horseshoe & Castle PH at the end of the listing for Cooling. What I would like to know is, why was he noted again separately with these other men at the end of the listing? Was it because he was someone 'important'? Thank you, Paulette in NZ http://i41.tinypic.com/9jmao3.jpg