John Packham wrote: > The second thing relates to Christine's website. She was my father's cousin > and passed away last December which means when her subscription to the host > runs out the site will disappear. It seems a pity that what may be useful > information to people in the future will get lost. She was unmarried so > there is no husband or children to keep the site on-line. > > Is there a genealogical site that will preserve and keep the site available? > I've looked at the Wayback Machine (www.archive.org) but the photos seem to > be missing. Or should I take the site and add it alongside my own one? > Recommendations please. If you're in a position to take on responsibility for the site, I would strongly suggest you do. It would at least allow you time to decide what to do with it: pass it on to somewhere else or keep it yourself. The WayBack Machine is good but I've notice that it doesn't always capture all the pages on a site or else misses bits, such as pictures. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Thanks Linda and Ross for the reply. Actually I've known this photo for about 20 years from a book in Chatham Library, later Christine Wenn's website and finally Cityark. I'm hoping that somewhere there may be one or two more photos showing different views, maybe the inside. The second thing relates to Christine's website. She was my father's cousin and passed away last December which means when her subscription to the host runs out the site will disappear. It seems a pity that what may be useful information to people in the future will get lost. She was unmarried so there is no husband or children to keep the site on-line. Is there a genealogical site that will preserve and keep the site available? I've looked at the Wayback Machine (www.archive.org) but the photos seem to be missing. Or should I take the site and add it alongside my own one? Recommendations please. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Staunton" <stauntonlinda@googlemail.com> To: "John Packham" <j-p-p@tiscali.co.uk>; <kent-eng-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Eight Bells Inn Canterbury Kent > Try this > http://www.wennfamily.50megs.com/custom.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Packham" <j-p-p@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <kent-eng-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Eight Bells Inn Canterbury Kent > > >> Riding on this thread, does anyone know of a good source for extinct pub >> photos? I'm looking specifically for The Red Lion and Star in Strood >> which >> was run by my gg grandparents until its disappearance around the start of >> WW1. Apparently there were very old carved beams in the building which >> were >> taken by the brewer (possibly Leney) to install in his own house when the >> pub was demolished. >> >> John >>

I have been looking for my gr. Grandfather listed above for a long time, but to no avail. Family memory said he was born on January 29, 1853 in Linton, Kent, England; however, I just received George C. Edwards naturalization papers and they state his birth place as Luton, Kent County, England. Since I have had no luck finding him in Linton, I wonder if anyone on the list knew how I might find him in Luton? On his Australian marriage license his parents are listed as William James Edwards and Elizabeth Hodges. He supposedly ran away to sea when he was 10-12 years old. Thank you for whatever assistance you might be able to provide. Sincerely, Phyllis K. Swanson Yuma, Arizona, USA

Hi We are need help with this family. John Lamkin born 1839-1840 marr mary ann John father may have been John Born 1815 We need to comfirm if they are William and Rosmond family They are from Marden and bapt At St. Micheals and All Angles church. Any help woudl be a great help with this family and we thank you Lambkin family Canada

It would be much appreciated if someone could check the local papers for an obituary of Kathleen Tedder who died 22 July 1990 in the Margate or Thanet area, Kent? I have not been able to determine if there were any children. W. Tedder Calgary, Canada

Hi Andrea, Futher to earlier email, regardin Susanna Eliza CROOK who married James BULEY - They arrived in Victoria as Assisted Immigrants and are listed on the "Register of British Assisted Immigrants 1839-1871" at the Victorian Archives Office - BULEY, James, 30, May 1854, "America", Ref Book 10, page 235 BULEY, Susanna, 28, ditto BULEY, Eliza, 2, ditto BULEY, Edward, 1, ditto http://www.access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/PROVguides/PROVguide023/PROVguide023.jsp Death Notice for - James BULEY, builder, died 1885, Ballarat http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/6082324?searchTerm=%22james+buley%22 Probate notice - http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/6091086?searchTerm=%22james+buley%22 Amos John BULEY at Scottburgh-South Africa in 1934, son of Mr & Mrs Buley of Ballarat http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/10990514?searchTerm=%22james+buley%22 James Howard BULEY, son of James and Susannah, died 1945 - http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/page/824733?zoomLevel=3 Edward James BULEY, son of James, at Ballarat, 1918 - http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1410131?searchTerm=buley+ballarat Jessie BULEY, daughter of James, 1916 http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1590998?searchTerm=buley+ballarat Ernest Charles BULEY, son of James and Susannah, biography - http://adbonline.anu.edu.au/biogs/AS10066b.htm St Kilda Cemetery - James BULEY buried 9 June 1885 aged 61, and Sussanah BULEY buried 22 Sept 1902 aged 77, both in Wesleyan Grave Compartment B, Grave 0290 - http://www.deceasedsearch.com/ There are many more mentions of the BULEY names in the Australian newspapers - http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > I was wondering if anyone is researching John CROOK (1841 census 1841 > carpenter) b 1778 (Chatham) m Eliza unknown, the only two children I have > found of John and Eliza are Rebecca c 1 Jan 1815 (Chatham) and Benjamin b > about 1823. > andrea

Hello Andrea, The IGI has the following children for John and Eliza CROOK, all baptised in Chatham - 1813, 13 August - Eliza (C166062) 1815, 1 January - Rebecca (C166061) 1819, 18 July - Jemima Elizabeth (mother: Eliza Jane) (CO21786) 1825, 20 February - Susanna Eliza (C166062) There are a number of parish registers for Chatham on the CityArk website that you can search through to possibly find the marriage and christenings for other children - http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=Search&PathList=%2FZ4a_Medway_Ancestors%2F%0A&SearchWords=&DateList I found this tree online showing Susanna Eliza CROOK (father: John Crook, born 1790), married in Kent and died in Victoria-Australia - http://whaite.com/family/cato/page3.html Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > I was wondering if anyone is researching John CROOK (1841 census 1841 > carpenter) b 1778 (Chatham) m Eliza unknown, the only two children I have > found of John and Eliza are Rebecca c 1 Jan 1815 (Chatham) and Benjamin b > about 1823. > andrea

Many thanks to those kind people who replied to my plea about finding William T. Skey in 1871. However, I am still trying to discover where he is. I have his wife and family but not him unfortunately. W

Try this http://www.wennfamily.50megs.com/custom.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Packham" <j-p-p@tiscali.co.uk> To: <kent-eng-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Eight Bells Inn Canterbury Kent > Riding on this thread, does anyone know of a good source for extinct pub > photos? I'm looking specifically for The Red Lion and Star in Strood > which > was run by my gg grandparents until its disappearance around the start of > WW1. Apparently there were very old carved beams in the building which > were > taken by the brewer (possibly Leney) to install in his own house when the > pub was demolished. > > John > > --- > > The pub is still there . You can get a photo at > WWW.pubutopia.com/images/pubs/16800.jpeg . > > or I can send a copy off list . > > Dan Jenkins > >> From: darylrickard01@optusnet.com.au >> To: rossmailings@ntlworld.com; KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com >> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:32:48 +1000 >> Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Eight Bells Inn Canterbury Kent >> >> Hi Ivan, >> >> You might try here: >> http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/15654/ >> >> regards >> >> Daryl from Oz >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Ross Mailings >> Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:03 AM >> To: KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [KENT-ENG] Eight Bells Inn Canterbury Kent >> >> Hi All >> >> Can anybody help me please I am trying to find a photo if there is one of >> the Eight Bells Inn 43 King Street Canterbury. In 1858 a Henry Waller was >> the Inn keeper . I have found out that it was still open in 1922. >> >> >> Any help will be appreciated thank you >> >> Regards >> Ivan >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Riding on this thread, does anyone know of a good source for extinct pub photos? I'm looking specifically for The Red Lion and Star in Strood which was run by my gg grandparents until its disappearance around the start of WW1. Apparently there were very old carved beams in the building which were taken by the brewer (possibly Leney) to install in his own house when the pub was demolished. John --- The pub is still there . You can get a photo at WWW.pubutopia.com/images/pubs/16800.jpeg . or I can send a copy off list . Dan Jenkins > From: darylrickard01@optusnet.com.au > To: rossmailings@ntlworld.com; KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:32:48 +1000 > Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Eight Bells Inn Canterbury Kent > > Hi Ivan, > > You might try here: > http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/15654/ > > regards > > Daryl from Oz > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Ross Mailings > Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:03 AM > To: KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KENT-ENG] Eight Bells Inn Canterbury Kent > > Hi All > > Can anybody help me please I am trying to find a photo if there is one of > the Eight Bells Inn 43 King Street Canterbury. In 1858 a Henry Waller was > the Inn keeper . I have found out that it was still open in 1922. > > > Any help will be appreciated thank you > > Regards > Ivan >

Hello Phillipa, You might want to consider looking further afield than Kent or Hampshire. Following is a name match (and the date looks reasonable) that might warrant ordering a certificate for checking ages, occupation etc. to see if a match: Groom's Name: James BISHOP Bride's Name: Sarah Ann WARNER Marriage Date: 08 Feb 1838 Marriage Place: Saint George Hanover Square, Middlesex, England I don't have the registration details, but you should be able to find this on FreeBMD. Regards, Jan Isobel

Have you tried FreeBMD ? That will give you the GRO reference and you can then order the birth certificate. http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl Remember that just because he was baptised in Kent, that doesn't mean he was born in Kent. Anne South Australia Bruce and Gloria Moore wrote: > I have a child baptised July 1839 called George PECKHAM in All Saints Church, Staplehurst, Kent. Does anyone know of any Birth Records available so I could order a Birth Certificate for him. Gloria > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

_____ From: Philippa Cooper [mailto:pkcooper@aapt.net.au] Sent: Monday, 7 June 2010 5:07 PM To: 'KENT-ENG-D-request@rootsweb.com' Subject: WARNER - SARAH ANN Family mythology has it that my husband's great great grandmother came from Tunbridge Wells. She was born SARAH ANN WARNER and married James Bishop ( of Hampshire). Their first child was born in 1839 so I assume they were married before that. Her husband was born in 1815 so all things being equal Sarah would probably have been born about then. The marriage was not registered in Hampshire so I assume they were married in Tunbridge Wells. She appears on the 1841 census living in Hampshire, and her last child was born in 1843 - I presume she died in childbirth since she had no more children ( after having three in fairly quick succession) and James appears on the 1851 census as a widower. I have looked on IGI for a birth and had no success. Can anyone help with directions? This woman is a major stumbling block in our research! Cheers Philippa in South Australia.

Hi All I am new to the list, I was wondering if anyone is researching John CROOK (1841 census 1841 carpenter) b 1778 (Chatham) m Eliza unknown, the only two children I have found of John and Eliza are Rebecca c 1 Jan 1815 (Chatham) and Benjamin b about 1823. Richard HOWARD (1841 census gardener) Richard's son Thomas R HOWARD m 29 Oct 1839 (St Pancras London) Rebecca CROOK, their children are Thomas 1840, William 1842, Anna E 1845, Benjamin 1848, George 1850 m Livinia BLYTH, James 1854 and Charles 1856. Can you fill in the missing names and dates? Regards andrea

Hi John There is a possible for Stephen with a brother and father Edward born Tonbridge Kent on the 1881 census. This is the only one that comes up when I narrowed him down to the birth registration found by Mary and Anne on the list. "Presuming" this is the right Stephen then this is likely your man. A birth certificate might be the go here to make sure......... Sending image off list Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > Hello List, > I am a new member to this list and hope that by > joining you all I can increase my meagre knowledge of the Beecher > name in the above centuries around Tunbridge Wells & Tonbridge. I am > hoping to find Edward Beecher and Stephen Richard Beecher, or even > any Beecher, all replies will be answered within 2 days or so,

The pub is still there . You can get a photo at WWW.pubutopia.com/images/pubs/16800.jpeg . or I can send a copy off list . I stay at the Thanington on Wincheap[ indoor pool , great breakfasts , and a cozy bar ] , so spend time at The Maidens Head and The Kings Head in that area . The Kings Head has Bat and Trap in rear beer garden and generous food portions . Dan Jenkins > From: darylrickard01@optusnet.com.au > To: rossmailings@ntlworld.com; KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:32:48 +1000 > Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Eight Bells Inn Canterbury Kent > > Hi Ivan, > > You might try here: > http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/15654/ > > regards > > Daryl from Oz > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Ross Mailings > Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:03 AM > To: KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KENT-ENG] Eight Bells Inn Canterbury Kent > > Hi All > > Can anybody help me please I am trying to find a photo if there is one of > the Eight Bells Inn 43 King Street Canterbury. In 1858 a Henry Waller was > the Inn keeper . I have found out that it was still open in 1922. > > > Any help will be appreciated thank you > > Regards > Ivan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3

Hi everyone, I'm new to the list and I'm trying to find if there's a link between the Hickmott family of Horsmonden/Cranbrook and the Courthope & Hendley families of Cranbrook. I'm not 100% sure there is a connection (it would probably be way back in the 1500s) but I was wondering if anyone else was researching these families and had possibly come across one. Thanking you for any assistance or suggestions. Best wishes, Sarah.

Bruce and Gloria Moore wrote: > Could anyone tell me where I might find the records for the Workhouses in Staplehurst in the year 1839-1841. Gloria They'll be in the record office but not online unless there's an OPC for Staplehurst who's transcribed them and made them available. www.workhouses.org/ is worth a look -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Bruce and Gloria Moore wrote: > I have a child baptised July 1839 called George PECKHAM in All > Saints Church, Staplehurst, Kent. Does anyone know of any Birth > Records available so I could order a Birth Certificate for him. > Gloria Where have you looked for the birth registration? FMP? FreeBMD? At that time the onus was on the local registrar to find all the new borns. Although he does seem to have found many/most, there are some he missed. The parents were supposed to have gone to the registrar if he didn't come to them but not all of them did. It may be they considered baptism sufficient registration, plus there were some members of the clergy who resented the "government interference". It's also possible George was born before civil registration began and/or that he was born somewhere other than in Staplehurst for whatever reason, eg his mother was visiting friends/relatives when George decided he wasn't going to wait any longer. FreeBMD's chart shows that 1839 appears complete but it can be up to 3% out. Not all the birth indices up to 1857 are complete yet. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hi Ivan, You might try here: http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/15654/ regards Daryl from Oz -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ross Mailings Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:03 AM To: KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KENT-ENG] Eight Bells Inn Canterbury Kent Hi All Can anybody help me please I am trying to find a photo if there is one of the Eight Bells Inn 43 King Street Canterbury. In 1858 a Henry Waller was the Inn keeper . I have found out that it was still open in 1922. Any help will be appreciated thank you Regards Ivan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message