Hi Everyone, Is there anyone who can please check a marriage entry for me: SARAH HICKS and WILLIAM BRACKENBURG/BRACKENBURY married 6 NOV 1809, All Saints, Maidstone. I am hoping it will list whether they were of the parish or not, Thanks so much for your time, Lorna

Gloria, I've got my doubts that it is actually Greenwich (St Alphage) itself as IGI has good coverage of this parish and she does not feature. Peter I thought that I would order my 3 great grandmothers 2nd marriage certificate as her first one was before registration but 2nd one after thinking it would get me a step further with her father name but she turns out to be not whom I thought. I had her as Mary Ann BATES married to Henry FREED 1819 which fits in with the birth of their first child 1820. Her 2nd marriage was to Robert Honeysette 1848 but it gives her fathers name as John VALENTINE occupation Labourer. According to the census she was born Greenwich 1804/6 depending on which one you go by. So if anybody has access to Greenwich parish records it would be of great interest to me to solve this little mystery. Thank you GLoria

With the number of mistranscriptions and misspellings in censuses, wildcards are extremely useful. For instance, HOLMES could equally well have been written as HOMES, so searching for HO*MES covers both possibilities. WILLIAM* covers both WILLIAM and WILLIAMS, CO*PER: COOPER and COUPER, STE*ENS: STEVENS and STEPHENS and so on. In the case of even wilder mistranscriptions, you can search with just a forename and place of birth or forename and age. age and place of birth (no name) or even just husband and wife/parent and child forenames and then look for obvious mistakes/letter patterns and check them against the image. One that springs to mind was CHANCELLOR transcribed as CLANRELLOR - the "ELLOR" caught my eye. Ancestry's search engine is much more flexible than it was, thank goodness - I think now you could even search for *ellor. MY MORTLEMANs have been variously transcribed as MORTTEMAN, MORTHEMAN, MARTLEMAN etc, so now I search for M*RT*MAN automatically Anne South Australia EVELYN WALLACE wrote: > Some of us are more clever at using search engines than others. I have not quite mastered using wild cards > [asterisks] for census searches, but as illustrated by one subscriber to this list, they can be quite > useful in searching censuses. >

I thought that I would order my 3 great grandmothers 2nd marriage certificate as her first one was before registration but 2nd one after thinking it would get me a step further with her father name but she turns out to be not whom I thought. I had her as Mary Ann BATES married to Henry FREED 1819 which fits in with the birth of their first child 1820. Her 2nd marriage was to Robert Honeysette 1848 but it gives her fathers name as John VALENTINE occupation Labourer. According to the census she was born Greenwich 1804/6 depending on which one you go by. So if anybody has access to Greenwich parish records it would be of great interest to me to solve this little mystery. Thank you GLoria

Hi Listers, Whilst searching the New Zealand Newspaper Archives at :- http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast the following list of Passengers, who emigrated to New Zealand on the ship ZEALANDIA , which landed in December 1870, was found, & may help some listers. Please do not ask for a search of other Passenger Lists from Ships, as this appears to be an uncommon item in the Newspapers. Please transfer any of the details to other lists if desired. >From Star, ( New Zealand ), Issue 805, 23 December 1870, Page 2. LIST OF IMMIGRANTS PER SHIP ZEALANDIA. Farm Labourers. - John BOURNE , wife and child, Thomas WEBB , and wife Kent; John HARDWICK , wife and five children, Bucks; Henry HICKS , and wife, Thomas HENWOOD , and wife, James MAYN , wife and five children, Cornwall; George WISE , wife and child, Surrey; James HAYLER , wife and two children, Sussex; Michael HARRIS , wife and child, Yorkshire; William JOHNS , wife and five children, Cornwall; Josiah FELL , wife and child, Bucks; George ARTHUR , and wife, Cornwall; Samuel GREEN , wife and four children, Yorkshire; James RAINBOW , and wife, Bucks; George SIMPSON , wife and four children, Yorkshire. Ploughmen. - Francis BROWN , wife and three children, Aberdeenshire; John SIMPSON , and wife, Donegal. Labourers. - John GRIFFITHS , wife and child, Derbyshire; John PAGE , wife and two children, Bucks. Shepherd. - Lewis WILLIS , and wife, Banffshire. Carpenters. - Edward EVANS , wife and child, Oxfordshire; Samuel F. SEAGAR , wife and child, Middlesex. Millwright. - John GILBERT , wife and three children, Bucks. Smiths. - John GRIFFITHS , Junior, wife and child, Derbyshire; William REED , and wife, Devonshire. Forgeman. - Thomas CUTLER , and wife, Staffordshire. Moulder.- Benjamin DAVIES , and wife, Derbyshire. Saddler. - James BORLAND , wife, and six children, Tyrone. Coachmaker. - Sydney COWBRICK , and wife, Middlesex. SINGLE MEN. Farm Labourers. - Thomas HARDWICK , Henry J. RAINBOW , Bucks ; Francis BROWN , Aberdeenshire; Charles GAMBLE , Essex; William HARRIS , Cornwall; Peter CHICK , Somersetshire; James MOYLE , William MOYLE , William RICHARDS , Cornwall; John CORKERY , Davis SHEA , Kerry; John CALLAGHAN , Cork; John LEARY , William LEARY , Kerry; James DERMOTT , Armagh; Thomas SPILLAND , Kerry; Michael SEIB , Wilhelm ARRAS , Peter GRIEBEL , Bavaria; John MORGANS , Edward MORGANS , Richard EVANS , David TUDOR , Montgomeryshire; Matthew BREEZE , John BREEZE , Norfolk; David WOTTEN , Cornwall.

So many errors - not always poor transcribing - . Enumerator may enter information on the wrong line - mis spell -even simple names. Black - becomes Blak - Block - Blake - and even Broke Julia / Juliana - could not be found - for years - and only found because of help from others - who researched through other family names - Found Julia - as Clininka - not a known given name anywhere - as well Ilushka. Clara - a second child - a daughter - in a family of 5 daughters - was shown as a son Carl. a brother James was born - years later One wonders about all the others -never found At 11:43 AM 24/06/2010, EVELYN WALLACE wrote: >Some of us are more clever at using search engines than others. I >have not quite mastered using wild cards [asterisks] for census >searches, but as illustrated by one subscriber to this list, they >can be quite useful in searching censuses. > >I suspected that my English great-grandmother, who had returned from >the USA to Bedfordshire after she was widowed, had some younger >siblings who were still living ca 1891. They were not in the >Suffolk village where their aging parents had lived and where their >youngest brother remained and operated the family tavern. > >So--I used the surname Holmes and the birthplace of Saxmundham as my >search terms. I had great luck!!! I surprised myself!!! The >siblings, many of them, were then living south of the Thames in what >was probably Kent. Each has an occupation, even the females. > >In the US, the problem is that the census-taker often misspelled the >surname, and the family gave the census taker a different first name >than the researcher knows. In my own lineage, the US census-taker >left off the final s in the surname Williams. My helper told me to >give her an unusual given name in the family, and with that, she was >able to get some results. But the mistake still remains--no final s >in Williams. > >E.W.Wallace > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some of us are more clever at using search engines than others. I have not quite mastered using wild cards [asterisks] for census searches, but as illustrated by one subscriber to this list, they can be quite useful in searching censuses. I suspected that my English great-grandmother, who had returned from the USA to Bedfordshire after she was widowed, had some younger siblings who were still living ca 1891. They were not in the Suffolk village where their aging parents had lived and where their youngest brother remained and operated the family tavern. So--I used the surname Holmes and the birthplace of Saxmundham as my search terms. I had great luck!!! I surprised myself!!! The siblings, many of them, were then living south of the Thames in what was probably Kent. Each has an occupation, even the females. In the US, the problem is that the census-taker often misspelled the surname, and the family gave the census taker a different first name than the researcher knows. In my own lineage, the US census-taker left off the final s in the surname Williams. My helper told me to give her an unusual given name in the family, and with that, she was able to get some results. But the mistake still remains--no final s in Williams. E.W.Wallace

Hi listers. I am seeking advice or help in locating a family which should be listed in the 1891 UK census. William Henry and Phoebe Austen and family and nephew, were in Ramsgate. probably Hereson Road. In 1901 Census William is at ! Eva Villas, Hereson Road. He should be listed in 1891 but I can't find him. Is there a reason. Thanks Brian Austen Hobart

The Eliza Mary Austen et al are actually next door and the surname is SOLLY - I've put in a correction Anne Chambers wrote: > I don't know why you couldn't find them - I searched for Ph*be Aus* with > husband William and there they were. > RG12; Piece: 732; Folio 32; Page 10; > Hereson Rd Ramsgate > William Hy Austen 33 > Phoebe A Austen 32 > William J Austen 7 > Walter John Austen 6 > Eva V Austen 1 > James H Austen 16 ********** *********> Eliza Mary Austen 32 > Eliza Austen 12 > Alfred Austen 10 > Elizabeth Austen 8 > Annie Austen 6 > > Anne > South Australia > > Brian Austen wrote: >> Hi listers. >> >> I am seeking advice or help in locating a family which should be >> listed in the 1891 UK census. >> >> William Henry and Phoebe Austen and family and nephew, were in >> Ramsgate. probably Hereson Road. >> >> In 1901 Census William is at ! Eva Villas, Hereson Road. >> >> He should be listed in 1891 but I can't find him. Is there a reason. >> >> Thanks >> >> Brian Austen Hobart >> >> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please >> send an email to >> KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of >> the message >> >

I don't know why you couldn't find them - I searched for Ph*be Aus* with husband William and there they were. RG12; Piece: 732; Folio 32; Page 10; Hereson Rd Ramsgate William Hy Austen 33 Phoebe A Austen 32 William J Austen 7 Walter John Austen 6 Eva V Austen 1 James H Austen 16 Eliza Mary Austen 32 Eliza Austen 12 Alfred Austen 10 Elizabeth Austen 8 Annie Austen 6 Anne South Australia Brian Austen wrote: > Hi listers. > > I am seeking advice or help in locating a family which should be listed in the 1891 UK census. > > William Henry and Phoebe Austen and family and nephew, were in Ramsgate. probably Hereson Road. > > In 1901 Census William is at ! Eva Villas, Hereson Road. > > He should be listed in 1891 but I can't find him. Is there a reason. > > Thanks > > Brian Austen Hobart > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message >

Hi All I am trying to find out what happened to another gg uncle Walter Smith b 1871 in Jersey. married Martha Ann Water in1896 in the Dartford registration district and had the following children Sarah Smith b 1900 Swanscomb Lilian Ellen Smith b 1902 Swanscomb Sidney Harold Smith b 1907 West Thurrock William Charles Smith b 1909 West Thurrock At the time of the 1911 census they were living at 12 Chapel Row, West Thurrock, Grays, Essex and Walter was a general labourer cement Any help would be most welcome Regards Ian KFHS 8109

Hi All I wonder if anybody is researching the above name or has it on their tree? I am trying to find out what became of Jessie Edgeler b 1883 Gravesend and married in 1903 in Strood to a Charles Henry Smith. According to the 1911 census they were living at 1 Low House Cottages, West Thurrock. At the time of the census they had a son and two daughters and Charles was a general foreman. Charles was my GG Uncle and I am trying to find bits of the family that are missing. Many thanks for your interest Regards Ian KFHS 8109

>From The Blackburn Standard ( Blackburn, England ), Wednesday, April 06, 1836; pg. 2. Issue 64. ASSUALT. - At Union Hall, on Monday, Thomas POULTER, described as the master of a workhouse in one of the unions of Kent, was fined 20 shillings to the King, 18 shillings and 6 pence damages, and 8 shillings and 6 pence costs, for assualting John QUARTERMAN, of the Star coffeeshop, King-street, Southwark, and a policeman, while in the execution of his duty.

Hello from New Zealand Can anyone help here please ?? We are hoping to locate the parents of this laddie Henry BARNES - B 1830...?? Family is believed to come from the Northfleet area in Kent Any assistance greatly appreciated ..... Kind regards from Maree S. Gordon < tappets@clear.net.nz >

Maree I have found on Ancestry Christening for Henry Barnes born c1830 Northfleet Kent.on 19/2/1830 Parents William and Ann.. Hope this helps.. Mary Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maree" <tappets@clear.net.nz> To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:04 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] Henry BARNES - 1841 census Kent > Hello from New Zealand > > Can anyone help here please ?? > > We are hoping to locate the parents of this laddie > > Henry BARNES - B 1830...?? > > Family is believed to come from the Northfleet area in Kent > > Any assistance greatly appreciated ..... > > Kind regards from Maree S. Gordon < tappets@clear.net.nz > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Family is: Robert W. Andrews, head, mar, 30, railway clerk, born Hampstead, Middlesex Rosina M. Andrews, wife, mar, 25, no occupation, born Kentish Town, Middlesex Percy R. Andrews, son, 4, born Hampstead, Middlesex Kathleen E. R. Andrews, daughter, 3, born Hampstead, Middlesex Rose M. Andrews, daughter, 2 months, born Hornsey, Middlesex Once a zoom of about 175% to 200% on the image is done, it is easier to distinguish the first letters of Percy's Christian name. It is also then much easier to determine that what Ancestry though was "ey" on the end of his name is actually "cy". I hope this helps. Sincerely, Susan D. Young, St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada Chief Executive, Ancestry Solutions www.ancestrysolutions.com County Administrator, Kent OPC www.kent-opc.org

Percy R Births Sep 1896 Andrews Percy Robert Hampstead 1a 648 Anne South Australia Carol Brown wrote: > Could someone have a go at reading a name in the 1901 census please? > > RG13 / 1240 / 157 / 27 Robert W Andrews has a son age 4. Ancestry thinks he is 'Arey R'. > I can't find a birth entry on freebnd which fits either, and index of 1911 census no help. > > Thanks, Carol > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Maree, According to IGI record search there are two Henry Barnes that might fit: Henry Barnes born 23 Dec 1830 baptised 21 Apr 1831 WESLEYAN,TENTERDEN,KENT,ENGLAND, parents William Barnes & Harriet Woodland Henry Barnes baptised 31 Mar 1830 Hadlow, Kent, parents Thomas Barnes & Frances The second is the most likely in terms of geography only being about 15 miles from Northfleet. HTH Peter Hello from New Zealand Can anyone help here please ?? We are hoping to locate the parents of this laddie Henry BARNES - B 1830...?? Family is believed to come from the Northfleet area in Kent Any assistance greatly appreciated ..... Kind regards from Maree S. Gordon < tappets@clear.net.nz >

Could someone have a go at reading a name in the 1901 census please? RG13 / 1240 / 157 / 27 Robert W Andrews has a son age 4. Ancestry thinks he is 'Arey R'. I can't find a birth entry on freebnd which fits either, and index of 1911 census no help. Thanks, Carol

Thanks to all those who replied re my question regarding death duties. From the Will it appears there was little cash disbursed; 15 properties in Canterbury and one in Herne Bay with shares in the local turnpike linking the two. There appeared to be assets in the form of share(s) in an Insurance company. In all the probate did ‘not exceed £3,000’ a very considerable sum it must have been back then. Unfortunately I have very little information on the deceased or his family save for his two nephews mentioned in the Will; Thomas, who was my 3*great grandfather, and Samuel, on who I have no information. Regards Andy Claxton