Dear Dave, Thanks for that response. I am inclined to believe that the entry for the IGI record for his birth is a transcription error and that his mother is in fact Ann(e) Court a single parent. I believe that I have now located the father of both Henry and Herbert Goulden hiding in a remote part of sunny Yorkshire working as an Engine Driver from where he never returned to Kent after relocating there sometime in the 1840's until his death in 1886. Thanks again for your feedback. Cheers Ian in Hong Kong ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Dixon To: Ian Robinson Cc: KENT-ENG Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 1:00 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Edward Rouse? COURT Hi Ian The 1851 census return shows Ann Goulden as being still married, although no sign of her husband. There are also two other sons, Henry & Herbert, who are shown on the census as "sons of Henry Goulden". I would guess that the IGI entries are pretty much correct, with the exception of Ann being shown as Amy at the baptism of her illegitimate son. All the best Dave Dixon BA (hons) - Economic & Social History - University of Kent - Canterbury 1997 www.fadedgenes.co.uk On 10 July 2010 16:26, Ian Robinson <treeman@netvigator.com> wrote: Dear Listers, In the 1851 census for Whitstable I have an Edward Rouse Court aged 19 ? who is described as being the son of Ann Goulden. Presumably this would have been either from an earlier marriage or she was unmarried at the time of his birth and this was her maiden name before she married a Goulden. I have tried to locate a marriage for Ann Court to ??? Goulden without any success to date. There is however on the IGI a marriage reported between a Henry Goulding and Anne Court submitted by a member of the LDS dated 1835 in Whitstable I have not been able to locate Edward Rouse Court in the 1861 census and the only other reference I have is from the IGI for an Edward Roust COURT b 1832 Newnham Kent to mother Amy (not Ann) Court. No father given. Edward Roust Court does not appear in any subsequent census after 1851as far as I can tell . I feel that somehow all of these people are connected but cannot put together a paper trail for them all at present possibly due to transcription errors If anyone can shed any light on or are related to these people in any way I would like to hear from you. Thanks for reading this far and thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide. Cheers Ian in Hong Kong ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Catherine, If the will itself gives no clues, the Bank of England will extracts (indexed at Origins.net) usually list a county of residence. In this case the index has Southampton. That may refer to the "county of Southampton" (Hampshire), and not necessarily to the town itself. You could try posting to the Hampshire list. You could also see if someone can check the new edition of the National Burial Index (NBI 3), just in case he has made it onto that? Do be aware though that he may not have been buried close to where he lived and died, as there may have been a family plot elsewhere. HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: london-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:london-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PlowdenC@aol.com I'm searching for the death of my ancestor General Frederick George MULCASTER (Royal Engineers). He died 18 August 1797 (as quoted in London Gazette) - I have his Will but no note of his address - so don't know where he was buried or which parish register to look him up in. He was baptised at St James, Westminster, so may still have had a link with the area (he served overseas). I'm assuming he died in London. How could I try to locate his death/burial? I can't even find his death on ancestry or the IGI. Any info very welcome. Regards Catherine Plowden
>From The Brisbane Courier ( Qld.: 1864 -1933 ) ( Australia ) Thursday 15 February 1883. Page 1 of 8. MARRIAGE. MILES - FLEMING. - On the 7th February, at Lytton Junction Wesleyan Church, by the Rev. H. JONES , Frank, youngest son of John MILES , late of Tonbridge, Kent, England, to Margaret Laird, only daughter of the late James FLEMING late of Kilmalcolie, Renfrewshire, Scotland.
Hi everyone I'm searching for the death of my ancestor General Frederick George MULCASTER (Royal Engineers) in Kent, where he may have died in 1797. He died 18 August 1797 (as quoted in London Gazette) - I have his Will but no note of his address - so don't know where he was buried or which parish register to look him up in. He was baptised at St James, Westminster, but he did have links with Kent (his daughter Mary became Lady MONTRESOR of Ospringe House nr Faversham, she died in 1861). He could have died in Kent therefore. How could I try to locate his death/burial? I can't even find his death on ancestry or the IGI. Any info very welcome. Regards Catherine in Devon
Dear Listers, In the 1851 census for Whitstable I have an Edward Rouse Court aged 19 ? who is described as being the son of Ann Goulden. Presumably this would have been either from an earlier marriage or she was unmarried at the time of his birth and this was her maiden name before she married a Goulden. I have tried to locate a marriage for Ann Court to ??? Goulden without any success to date. There is however on the IGI a marriage reported between a Henry Goulding and Anne Court submitted by a member of the LDS dated 1835 in Whitstable I have not been able to locate Edward Rouse Court in the 1861 census and the only other reference I have is from the IGI for an Edward Roust COURT b 1832 Newnham Kent to mother Amy (not Ann) Court. No father given. Edward Roust Court does not appear in any subsequent census after 1851as far as I can tell . I feel that somehow all of these people are connected but cannot put together a paper trail for them all at present possibly due to transcription errors If anyone can shed any light on or are related to these people in any way I would like to hear from you. Thanks for reading this far and thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide. Cheers Ian in Hong Kong
Dear Anne, Thanks for clearing that up for me very promptly. One learns something new every day. I hope that Henry is one of them. Cheers Ian in Hong Kong ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Chambers" <anne.chambers@bigpond.com> To: "Ian Robinson" <treeman@netvigator.com> Cc: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Henry William GOULDEN > According to Ancestry 310,391 boys were registered as 'Male' between 1837 > and 1915 and 256,156 girls were registered as 'Female' > > Anne > South Australia > > Ian Robinson wrote: > > snip >> >> The nearest match that I can find is in Sep qtr 1842 for a Male Goulden >> in Blean. >> I thought that in order to register a birth a forename had to be given in >> addition to the surname but perhaps someone could clear that up for me. >
Dear Karen, Thanks for your prompt response to that query. Henry Goulden was Herberts older brother. I have received a copy of the marriage cert for Herbert to Jane Harris which shows his father as being an Engineer called Henry Goulden but of course this does not show his mothers name. I am currently waiting to receive Herbert Thomas Gouldens birth cert from the GRO whch is recorded both in Free BMD and the GRO Index so I was surprised when I could not locate the same details for Henry William.. Presumably even though he may not have been baptised at Whitstable his records should still be in the GRO. Thanks again for that feedback Karen. Cheers Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Cook" <kcook@btinternet.com> To: "Ian Robinson" <treeman@netvigator.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Henry William GOULDEN > Dear Ian > > I've had a quick look at the Kent FHS PR transcripts for Whitstable, and > he was not baptised there (nor were any other children of the marriage, > though a Herbert GOULDEN (father Henry, Engineer) was married there). > > Best wishes, Karen > >
According to Ancestry 310,391 boys were registered as 'Male' between 1837 and 1915 and 256,156 girls were registered as 'Female' Anne South Australia Ian Robinson wrote: snip > > The nearest match that I can find is in Sep qtr 1842 for a Male Goulden in Blean. > I thought that in order to register a birth a forename had to be given in addition to the surname but perhaps someone could clear that up for me.
Dear Listers, I am trying to obtain the birth cert from the GRO for Henry William Goulden but I am having trouble obtaining a reference number. >From the various census entries I can determine that he was born in Whitstable (Blean) in 1842. However there is no record of an entry for him in Free BMD or from the Index pages listed in Find My Past. The nearest match that I can find is in Sep qtr 1842 for a Male Goulden in Blean. I thought that in order to register a birth a forename had to be given in addition to the surname but perhaps someone could clear that up for me. Other than this shot in the dark are there any other ways to locate the birth details for Henry William GOULDEN.? I have sent away for this cert to see what transpires and I am hoping that it shows Father Henry Goulden, occ Engine driver, mother Ann GOULDEN formerly Court If anyone has already been down this road I would be delighted to hear from you. Cheers Ian in Hong Kong.
Hi Ian The 1851 census return shows Ann Goulden as being still married, although no sign of her husband. There are also two other sons, Henry & Herbert, who are shown on the census as "sons of Henry Goulden". I would guess that the IGI entries are pretty much correct, with the exception of Ann being shown as Amy at the baptism of her illegitimate son. All the best Dave Dixon BA (hons) - Economic & Social History - University of Kent - Canterbury 1997 www.fadedgenes.co.uk On 10 July 2010 16:26, Ian Robinson <treeman@netvigator.com> wrote: > Dear Listers, > > In the 1851 census for Whitstable I have an Edward Rouse Court aged 19 ? > who is described as being the son of Ann Goulden. Presumably this would have > been either from an earlier marriage or she was unmarried at the time of his > birth and this was her maiden name before she married a Goulden. > I have tried to locate a marriage for Ann Court to ??? Goulden without any > success to date. > There is however on the IGI a marriage reported between a Henry Goulding > and Anne Court submitted by a member of the LDS dated 1835 in Whitstable > > I have not been able to locate Edward Rouse Court in the 1861 census and > the only other reference I have is from the IGI for an Edward Roust COURT b > 1832 Newnham Kent to mother Amy (not Ann) Court. No father given. > Edward Roust Court does not appear in any subsequent census after 1851as > far as I can tell . > > I feel that somehow all of these people are connected but cannot put > together a paper trail for them all at present possibly due to transcription > errors > > If anyone can shed any light on or are related to these people in any way I > would like to hear from you. > > Thanks for reading this far and thanks in advance for any assistance you > can provide. > > Cheers > > Ian in Hong Kong > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Looks like it might be the Maidstone Journal, Kentish Advertiser, and South Eastern Intelligencer. Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: <g3vps@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 2:27 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] Newspapers > > Hello > > I have an extract from a newspaper dated January 13, 1852 > which reports on a court case involving my ancestor > MARY KEMSLEY. > > I now find, looking through the report, that I really need the full > page and not just part of the page which I have kept. > > My problem is that I have held the copy for so long that I have > forgotten which Library held this newspaper. The problem is > made worse by the fact only part of the newspaper title is > visible........which is > > ER, AND SOUTH EASTERN INTELLIGENCER, JANUARY 13, 1852. > > I dont by the way think it was obtained from the Local Studies at > Strood. > > If anyone has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated. > > Vera Lennard > g3vps@tinyworld.co.uk > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello I have an extract from a newspaper dated January 13, 1852 which reports on a court case involving my ancestor MARY KEMSLEY. I now find, looking through the report, that I really need the full page and not just part of the page which I have kept. My problem is that I have held the copy for so long that I have forgotten which Library held this newspaper. The problem is made worse by the fact only part of the newspaper title is visible........which is ER, AND SOUTH EASTERN INTELLIGENCER, JANUARY 13, 1852. I dont by the way think it was obtained from the Local Studies at Strood. If anyone has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated. Vera Lennard g3vps@tinyworld.co.uk
An Edward Court married in Eastry Mar 1856 2a 783. Could be your man. People weren't as conscientious as we are now about using middle names. ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverley Brookes <bevb@ncf.ca> Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010 2:03 pm Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Edward Rouse? COURT > There are 5 deaths in FreeBMD from 1851 to 1861 for an Edward > No-middle-name Court. One was in Canterbury, one Dover and one in > Greenwich. I'd get the Canterbury cert as being the best bet to start > with, if this were my family. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dave Dixon <Dave@fadedgenes.co.uk> > Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010 1:00 pm > Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Edward Rouse? COURT > > > Hi Ian > > > > The 1851 census return shows Ann Goulden as being still married, > > although no > > sign of her husband. There are also two other sons, Henry & > > Herbert, who are > > shown on the census as "sons of Henry Goulden". > > > > I would guess that the IGI entries are pretty much correct, with the > > exception of Ann being shown as Amy at the baptism of her > > illegitimate son. > > > > All the best > > Dave Dixon > > BA (hons) - Economic & Social History - University of Kent - > > Canterbury 1997 > > > > www.fadedgenes.co.uk > > > > > > On 10 July 2010 16:26, Ian Robinson <treeman@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > Dear Listers, > > > > > > In the 1851 census for Whitstable I have an Edward Rouse Court > > aged 19 ? > > > who is described as being the son of Ann Goulden. Presumably > this > > would have > > > been either from an earlier marriage or she was unmarried at > the > > time of his > > > birth and this was her maiden name before she married a Goulden. > > > I have tried to locate a marriage for Ann Court to ??? Goulden > > without any > > > success to date. > > > There is however on the IGI a marriage reported between a > > Henry Goulding > > > and Anne Court submitted by a member of the LDS dated 1835 in > > Whitstable> > > > I have not been able to locate Edward Rouse Court in the 1861 > > census and > > > the only other reference I have is from the IGI for an Edward > > Roust COURT b > > > 1832 Newnham Kent to mother Amy (not Ann) Court. No father given. > > > Edward Roust Court does not appear in any subsequent census > after > > 1851as> far as I can tell . > > > > > > I feel that somehow all of these people are connected but > cannot put > > > together a paper trail for them all at present possibly due to > > transcription> errors > > > > > > If anyone can shed any light on or are related to these people > in > > any way I > > > would like to hear from you. > > > > > > Thanks for reading this far and thanks in advance for any > > assistance you > > > can provide. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Ian in Hong Kong > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
There are 5 deaths in FreeBMD from 1851 to 1861 for an Edward No-middle-name Court. One was in Canterbury, one Dover and one in Greenwich. I'd get the Canterbury cert as being the best bet to start with, if this were my family. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Dixon <Dave@fadedgenes.co.uk> Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010 1:00 pm Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Edward Rouse? COURT > Hi Ian > > The 1851 census return shows Ann Goulden as being still married, > although no > sign of her husband. There are also two other sons, Henry & > Herbert, who are > shown on the census as "sons of Henry Goulden". > > I would guess that the IGI entries are pretty much correct, with the > exception of Ann being shown as Amy at the baptism of her > illegitimate son. > > All the best > Dave Dixon > BA (hons) - Economic & Social History - University of Kent - > Canterbury 1997 > > www.fadedgenes.co.uk > > > On 10 July 2010 16:26, Ian Robinson <treeman@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > Dear Listers, > > > > In the 1851 census for Whitstable I have an Edward Rouse Court > aged 19 ? > > who is described as being the son of Ann Goulden. Presumably this > would have > > been either from an earlier marriage or she was unmarried at the > time of his > > birth and this was her maiden name before she married a Goulden. > > I have tried to locate a marriage for Ann Court to ??? Goulden > without any > > success to date. > > There is however on the IGI a marriage reported between a > Henry Goulding > > and Anne Court submitted by a member of the LDS dated 1835 in > Whitstable> > > I have not been able to locate Edward Rouse Court in the 1861 > census and > > the only other reference I have is from the IGI for an Edward > Roust COURT b > > 1832 Newnham Kent to mother Amy (not Ann) Court. No father given. > > Edward Roust Court does not appear in any subsequent census after > 1851as> far as I can tell . > > > > I feel that somehow all of these people are connected but cannot put > > together a paper trail for them all at present possibly due to > transcription> errors > > > > If anyone can shed any light on or are related to these people in > any way I > > would like to hear from you. > > > > Thanks for reading this far and thanks in advance for any > assistance you > > can provide. > > > > Cheers > > > > Ian in Hong Kong > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi Vera Another site has the source as Maidstone Library South Eastern Intelligencer Maidstone Reference Library FILE - Obituary of Thomas FletcherWaghorn Physical description – Photocopy [1 p.; more detailed than atWAG.020] Ref. -WAG.017 Date – 22 January 1850 Perhaps they may help Best regards Lozzie T
Hi my mother-in-law's farther came from East Farleigh, Kent, his name was Frank Whibley (born about 1897) in East Farleigh, Does anyone have a connection? Regards Ray
Hi listers, I am in need of help to rule in or out a person who may be my GGF,John Charles Bennett. In the 1841 census living in High St in the Borough of Gravesend is a family of the name Bennett. John 17 is shown as a boat builder; would someone be able to, if possible find if he was an apprentice learning the trade and for whom he worked for? And any info that may rule him in or out as my GGF. Regards Gordon
Hi Zandra Have sent this to my Worwood cousin who has Finnis connections. I am working on another line (Akehursts) and he is doing FINNIS. He has a newspaper report of a shipwreck, I have a copy just in case he doesn't get back to you. But I am sure he will. Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > Anyone that has an interest in Deal, Deal area shipwrecks and/or the > Finnis > family from Deal, please reply to Malcolm McCarthy for further details via > the link here > > http://kent-opc.org/Parishes/News/DealFinnisproject.html > > Assistance is required to complete an edit of a Finnis Family logbook > covering the period circa 1830 to 1850s. What is required is to, among > other things, check the transcript for errors and provide some background > research material be it information about wrecks mentioned, people who > drowned, or photographs of wrecks and so on. > > Yours sincerely, > Susan D. Young > County Administrator, Kent OPC > administrator@kent-opc.org www.kent-opc.org > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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Hello Ray, Now re-named as Beck Close, probably to avoid confusion with near-by John Penn Street. Regards, Iain Rogers, Hong Kong p.s. It was the street leading to the waterworks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "RAY STURGESS" <raymondo.sturgess@virgin.net> > my Grandmother Maria Bush (born 1871)'s family lived at no 3 John Street, > Greenwich. I have looked on a map of today but can not find John Street? > does anyone know where it is or where it was? > R