Robin, Always the first place to go for information on workhouse records is the Workhouse History site. You can find information on Spalding here users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/Spalding/Spalding.shtml According to this, the early admissions register s do not seem to have survived, but you could ask the archives if they have anything else. > Records • Lincolnshire Archives, St. Rumbold Street, Lincoln LN2 > 5AB. Holdings include: Guardians' minute books (1835-1930); Births > (1914-47); Admissions and discharges (1913-16, 1924-8, 1930-46); > Creed register (1914-48); Punishment book (1862-1929); Register of > lunatics (1914-48). > How far back have you got with the census information? If you give us some names and dates, someone might be able to help you further? Anne On 24 Jul 2010, at 03:41, Robin Carter wrote: > Hi Listers, > > Were there admission registers for workhouses in the 1800's? I > have an > individual who appears to have lived at the Spalding Workhouse , > born in Kent > ,and although a single woman had several children born while she was > a resident > there. She was a fieldworker , is possible there were different > fathers for > her children? Any comments welcome. I am trying to get a birth > certificate for > my husband's grandfather who according to his family, was an > orphan. I have > checked the cenus but grandfather changes his birthplace on at > least two. > > Robin. >

Robin Carter wrote: > Were there admission registers for workhouses in the 1800's? Yes, there would have been but whether they've survived is another matter. There are the Poor Law account books which might make mention of the mother and her children. Support was paid for the children but not the mother although the money would have been given to her. > I have an individual who appears to have lived at the Spalding > Workhouse , born in Kent ,and although a single woman had several > children born while she was a resident there. Since she was born in Kent, why not name her and give specific dates? Someone might have more information on her that could help you. She may have been in the infirmary attached to the workhouse rather than the workhouse itself if she were having a child and/or was ill. Her other children would have been cared for in the workhouse. > She was a fieldworker , is possible there were different fathers > for her children? Yes, it's possible the children had different fathers or she could have been in a steady relationship with one man who she didn't marry for some reason. It might be they didn't want to marry or that he was married to someone else. Have you checked the parish registers to see if there's any mention made of the father? The incumbent might have entered the alleged father if he knew or could get the name from the mother, but it wasn't required and most incumbents didn't mention it even if they did know. > I am trying to get a birth certificate for my husband's grandfather > who according to his family, was an orphan. I have checked the > cenus but grandfather changes his birthplace on at least two. Was he born pre, post or on the cusp of civil registration which began 1 July 1837? If he was born on or after 1 July, do any of the places he claims for his birth match with any entries in the GRO indices? Bear in mind the place in the index are registration districts so cover a number of parishes. Could you give the grandfather's name? Again, someone might have some information that might help you take the next step back. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hello Robin, The grandsfather, if born after 1-7-1837 should have a birth certificate which will give the details you require. Log on to Free BMB where you have the the quickest way of finding the registration of his birth. For the details you then send the information gained to the BMD Record Office at Southport. Dennis Bramble. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Carter" <robin_carter@rogers.com> To: <kent-eng@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:41 AM Subject: [KENT-ENG] workhouses Hi Listers, Were there admission registers for workhouses in the 1800's? I have an individual who appears to have lived at the Spalding Workhouse , born in Kent ,and although a single woman had several children born while she was a resident there. She was a fieldworker , is possible there were different fathers for her children? Any comments welcome. I am trying to get a birth certificate for my husband's grandfather who according to his family, was an orphan. I have checked the cenus but grandfather changes his birthplace on at least two. Robin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email

Hi, My great great grandparents were John Stevens and Jane (Knott), of Bexley Heath. I have traced some of their children, Joshua and Willie came to Australia, Frederick went to Canada,and daughter Jane married in England. I am having difficulty finding much about their other children. Stevens is such a 'popular' surname in Kent. Is anyone tracing this family? Jan in Australia

Hi Listers, Were there admission registers for workhouses in the 1800's?   I have an  individual who appears to have lived at the Spalding Workhouse , born in Kent ,and although a single woman had several children born while she was a resident there.  She was a fieldworker ,  is possible there were different fathers  for her children? Any comments welcome. I am trying to get a birth certificate for my husband's grandfather who according to his family, was an orphan.  I have checked the cenus but  grandfather changes his birthplace on at least two. Robin.

Hi Ray Having had a look on Google Streetview they are almost new places in Beck Close. Lynne B Sweden ----- Original Message ----- From: "RAY STURGESS" <raymondo.sturgess@virgin.net> To: <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:27 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] John Street now Beck Close, Greenwich > Hi List > Does anyone know where I can get any photos of John Street Greenwich (now > Beck Close). my Grandmother lived there around 1900, at no3 then no10. I > have been to Beck Close and all the old houses are gone, can anyone help? > > Regards > Ray (Isle of Wight) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3022 - Release Date: 07/22/10 20:36:00

Hi, Does anyone know where I could find the christening records for East Farleigh from 1724 - 1813. I have ordered in 2 microfilms but both were missing those years. Are there Bishops Transcripts available somewhere for those years? Thanks so much for your time, Lorna

Hi List Does anyone know where I can get any photos of John Street Greenwich (now Beck Close). my Grandmother lived there around 1900, at no3 then no10. I have been to Beck Close and all the old houses are gone, can anyone help? Regards Ray (Isle of Wight)

>From Dover at War: Monday 5 April 00.20 to 03.15 shells "The German long range guns fired on Dover.... (around 2am).. the next exploded in The Paddock, off Maison Dieu Road, partially demolishing Nos 6 and 7, and injuring Miss Watson." Paul -------------------------------------------------- From: "nicholas wilson" <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:11 PM To: <KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [KENT-ENG] Dover 1940-45 > Hello, > > I returned to Dover for the first time since my christening there 75 years > ago and located the street on which we used to live (The Paddock) Six of > the > orignal terraced houses (Nos 1 to 6) remain and I knew ahead of time that > our old home No. 7 had been destroyed in the war. Can some one help me > locate the records showing how (bombing or shell fire) and when the house > was destroyed. I know from experience that other towns had a Town Wardens > who was responsible for writing up a brief report after each raid, and > Dover > must have had many, raids that is. > > Thanks, > > Nick > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Geoff that is wonderful. I just wish I knew why William from Shifnal, Shropshire, married Elizabeth from Durham, in Benenden where their daughter Elizabeth was born before they headed to the north-east to have the rest of their children. There could have been a child before Elizabeth as she wasn't baptised until April 1801 - maybe even illegitimate. The only reason that I can think of is that William was a gardener and ended his days as a gardener at Coxhoe Hall. Unfortunately I have been unable to find any records for Coxhoe Hall. Thanks again - much appreciated. Judith - : Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:29:16 +0100 From: Judith Harty <judithharty@googlemail.com> Subject: [KENT-ENG] Marriage in Benenden To: KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTinWNmIs-GbyGA3ANsbu8nTBXqSzgjgeQ5Ep2iO0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi I am new to this list as most of my ancestors come from the north-east & north-west. I am looking for help/ideas on where to look for info on my 3+4xGtGrandparents- William Picken & Elizabeth Donkin and their daughter Elizabeth. >From IGI I believe that William & Elizabeth married 27/5/1799 in Benenden and their daughter was baptised in Benenden 19/4/1801. William comes from Shifnal in Shropshire - I have found an entry that indicates that Elizabeth, his wife, was born in Durham. All their other children were born in Durham. I would love to confirm the details of their marriage, their daughter's christening and, hopefully, that Elizabeth Donkin was born in Durham Any assistance would be appreciated thanks Judith in Gloucestershire ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:06:52 +0100 From: "Genealogy" <geneal.eg@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Marriage in Benenden To: "'Judith Harty'" <judithharty@googlemail.com>, <KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAACaBbq1pAMhLv1vm5au4hq3igAAAEAAAAEE/RA2wJJBNuYHS+DIvb/0BAAAAAA==@ btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Data sent off list. Geoff Underhill Primary families: AUSTEN, BEE/ACH, BUGDEN, BUTLER, HICKMOTT, KING, LAWRENCE, UNDERHILL, AVERY from Kent & Sussex, UK -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judith Harty Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:29 PM To: KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com Subject: [KENT-ENG] Marriage in Benenden Hi I am new to this list as most of my ancestors come from the north-east & north-west. I am looking for help/ideas on where to look for info on my 3+4xGtGrandparents- William Picken & Elizabeth Donkin and their daughter Elizabeth. >From IGI I believe that William & Elizabeth married 27/5/1799 in Benenden and their daughter was baptised in Benenden 19/4/1801. William comes from Shifnal in Shropshire - I have found an entry that indicates that Elizabeth, his wife, was born in Durham. All their other children were born in Durham. I would love to confirm the details of their marriage, their daughter's christening and, hopefully, that Elizabeth Donkin was born in Durham Any assistance would be appreciated thanks Judith in Gloucestershire ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the KENT-ENG list administrator, send an email to KENT-ENG-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the KENT-ENG mailing list, send an email to KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of KENT-ENG Digest, Vol 5, Issue 225 ****************************************

Nicholas Only myself discovered "The Paddock" the other day, a nice terrace hidden away !! A good book that I don't have access to at the moment is Dover at War by Roy Humphreys, which is written as a diary of events through WW2, so I am sure that will have a record.  When I find mine I will try post unless someone gets to it before me! Paul   ________________________________ From: nicholas wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> To: KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010 15:11:20 Subject: [KENT-ENG] Dover 1940-45 Hello, I returned to Dover for the first time since my christening there 75 years ago and located the street on which we used to live (The Paddock) Six of the orignal terraced houses (Nos 1 to 6) remain and I knew ahead of time that our old home No. 7 had been destroyed in the war. Can some one help me locate the records showing how (bombing or shell fire) and when the house was destroyed. I know from experience that other towns had a Town Wardens who was responsible for writing up a brief report after each raid, and Dover must have had many, raids that is. Thanks, Nick ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Data sent off list. Geoff Underhill Primary families: AUSTEN, BEE/ACH, BUGDEN, BUTLER, HICKMOTT, KING, LAWRENCE, UNDERHILL, AVERY from Kent & Sussex, UK -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judith Harty Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:29 PM To: KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com Subject: [KENT-ENG] Marriage in Benenden Hi I am new to this list as most of my ancestors come from the north-east & north-west. I am looking for help/ideas on where to look for info on my 3+4xGtGrandparents- William Picken & Elizabeth Donkin and their daughter Elizabeth. >From IGI I believe that William & Elizabeth married 27/5/1799 in Benenden and their daughter was baptised in Benenden 19/4/1801. William comes from Shifnal in Shropshire - I have found an entry that indicates that Elizabeth, his wife, was born in Durham. All their other children were born in Durham. I would love to confirm the details of their marriage, their daughter's christening and, hopefully, that Elizabeth Donkin was born in Durham Any assistance would be appreciated thanks Judith in Gloucestershire ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I am new to this list as most of my ancestors come from the north-east & north-west. I am looking for help/ideas on where to look for info on my 3+4xGtGrandparents- William Picken & Elizabeth Donkin and their daughter Elizabeth. >From IGI I believe that William & Elizabeth married 27/5/1799 in Benenden and their daughter was baptised in Benenden 19/4/1801. William comes from Shifnal in Shropshire - I have found an entry that indicates that Elizabeth, his wife, was born in Durham. All their other children were born in Durham. I would love to confirm the details of their marriage, their daughter's christening and, hopefully, that Elizabeth Donkin was born in Durham Any assistance would be appreciated thanks Judith in Gloucestershire

Hi Gloria, This from FreeBMD: Marriages Sep 1899 (>99%) Adlam Alice Mary Milton 2a 1904 Ware Ebenezer Robert Milton 2a 1904 You can now apply for the marriage certificate. The Milton is the Sittingbourne one, see http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/milton.html Geoff Underhill Primary families: AUSTEN, BEE/ACH, BUGDEN, BUTLER, HICKMOTT, KING, LAWRENCE, UNDERHILL, AVERY from Kent & Sussex, UK -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gloria Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:30 AM To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com Subject: [KENT-ENG] milton I know there were several posts about Milton recently but I didn't really follow them. I am trying to locate the marriage of Ebenezer Robert Ware and Alice Mary Adlam at Milton sep 1899. I have trawled through the marriages on cityark but they are Milton next Gravesend but I suspect this one is the one next Sittingbourne. So my question is are the parish records available on line for this parish please? GLoria ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know there were several posts about Milton recently but I didn't really follow them. I am trying to locate the marriage of Ebenezer Robert Ware and Alice Mary Adlam at Milton sep 1899. I have trawled through the marriages on cityark but they are Milton next Gravesend but I suspect this one is the one next Sittingbourne. So my question is are the parish records available on line for this parish please? GLoria

Hello, I returned to Dover for the first time since my christening there 75 years ago and located the street on which we used to live (The Paddock) Six of the orignal terraced houses (Nos 1 to 6) remain and I knew ahead of time that our old home No. 7 had been destroyed in the war. Can some one help me locate the records showing how (bombing or shell fire) and when the house was destroyed. I know from experience that other towns had a Town Wardens who was responsible for writing up a brief report after each raid, and Dover must have had many, raids that is. Thanks, Nick

This site gives the actual image of some Baptisms, Marriages & Burials in the Medway, Kent area, & we have permission, from the City Ark Archivists, to add any "out of area" BMD's to the relevant Rootsweb lists. http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/ We have noticed a Baptism of George William BAKER , son of William & Edith BAKER, which may interest a lister. William BAKER was a Labour & the family resided at 75, Brewers Street, Woolwich. George William was Baptised by E. H. Clarke,on December 24th. 1911, at Northfleet St Botolph. Document Scan: 00000392. jpg. Page 42.

Sorry I should also have said. Their births were all listed as Greenwich on Census. Sylvia.

Hi Pam, My Griffiths were baptised at St. Paul, Deptford. I have also found a lot of their burials on The Ladywell & Brockley Cemetery Memorial Inscriptions. Best wishes, Sylvia.

Ann If you put in Luther H D Collingham born 1899 Rolvenden Kent father Henry D Collingham and Mother Jemina it will come up on Ancestry for 1901 census..it has been misstranscribed.. Hope this helps Mary Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "SBS Engineers Research" <research@sbse.net.au> To: "Wendy and Peter Smith" <wensroots@googlemail.com>; <kent-eng@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:06 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] COTTINGHAM 1901 census > Hi > Has this been answered? > > KInd regards > Ann Spiro > Perth, Western Australia > research@sbse.net.au > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~blacksmiths/ > The surnames BASKETT and Nutty are registered with GOONS > http://www.one-name.org/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------ > Although I am a member of Ancestry I cannot find the following family in > > the 1901 > Henry O. (shown as D) COTTINGHAM 32 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >