I¹m trying to re-establish contact with a Bob Marchant who is a fellow MARCHANT researcher in Kent. My last contact with him was around 10 years ago. At that time, he was a pilot for British Airways, and lived I believe in Kent. He was born in Ashford Kent. I believe at that time we were both members of KFHS and maybe NWKFHS. I would appreciate any information that might help re-establish ties to Bob. At the time we last talked, I was headed in a different direction with my family. He dropped a copy of his tree in the mail at that time. In the last few days, it appears that we might have a common relation......about 1500....lol. Please reply off list as I am even worried about the info that I¹ve given, but I am at odds about how to do this. Many thanks in advance, Don Marchant Centreville, Alabama USA

Hi Everyone, Does anyone know anything about Paupers graves when the person being buried was not a pauper. My grandfather died 1954 at Maidsonte. I always knew both he and my grandmother before him had one. I obtained his death cert. just in case it said anything. It does not. So I will now send for his will, to see if it says anything. He was not a pauper, far from it. He was a Master Baker and owned at least 2 houses when he died. My sister and I are wondering if their bodies were donated to science. Would the bodies then be buried as paupers? There was no funeral, my father one brother and sister were not informed by other sister until after the deaths in both cases. Could someone just opt for a paupers grave.? I would have thought if you could afford it you would not expect someone else to pay, even without frills. So if anyone has any thoughts on the subject I would like to hear. Regards, Sylvia on a beautiful winter day in Aus.

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, February 22, 1834; Issue 4217. DIED. At Hythe, Kent, in his 92nd year, Lionel LUKIN , Esq.

Hi List, We have a William WARE bn 1863 Deptford occ Chimney Sweep who was a convict in H M Convict Prison Portsea Portmouth Hampshire in 1891 census In 1871--1901 & 1911 he was living in Deptford. We have looked in the Old Bailey website but can not find a William ware occ Chimney Sweep and the right age being convicted of anything. Could anyone point us in the right direction where to look for his court case. Thank you Barbara & Nicole Marton New Zealand bardus@xtra.co.nz -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 6363 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html

Hi List, We have a William WARE bn 1863 Deptford occ Chimney Sweep who was a convict in H M Convict Prison Portsea Portmouth Hampshire in 1891 census In 1871--1901 & 1911 he was living in Deptford. We have looked in the Old Bailey website but can not find a William ware occ Chimney Sweep and the right age being convicted of anything. Could anyone point us in the right direction where to look for his court case. Thank you Barbara & Nicole Marton New Zealand bardus@xtra.co.nz -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 6363 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html

Hi Don, Have a look at http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/1226.htm which gives you all the information you need about finding copies of wills. Either you can search the calendars of probate, or you can write to the York Probate Office and ask for a postal search which will cost £5 including a copy of the will if there was one. HTH Anne On 28 Jul 2010, at 07:48, Don Woodford wrote: > Could anyone please tell Me if Copies of Wills are available in Kent > please , Are they available up to recently ,And could I have the > Address Please, I am trying to find out if My Grandfather (Maternal) > left a Will ,His Name was Charles Noble who Died in Whitstable in > 1946 any information will be gratefully received > > DON > WOODFORD >

Could anyone please tell Me if Copies of Wills are available in Kent please , Are they available up to recently ,And could I have the Address Please, I am trying to find out if My Grandfather (Maternal) left a Will ,His Name was Charles Noble who Died in Whitstable in 1946 any information will be gratefully received DON WOODFORD

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Hi Glenda, It is often worth writing to the letters page of the local paper, prior to your visit, asking for help in tracing these chaps. Human interest stories , including some details e.g. Tufton Street,will often generate a paragraph and former neighbours or their descendants may well reply. Good luck with your search, DFC.

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Ok Blonde moment Berry Mum was born Caterham Surrey and they lived in Catford/Lewisham in the war years.....bomb alley mum and dad used to call that area. Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia Hi Pam, Sorry if I am sounding picky! but Catford I think you will find is in Kent. Sleep well Berry On 25 July 2010 06:19, pam hillier <pamhillier24@virginbroadband.com.au> wrote: Hi Jan, You may have to give a little more information - such as dates, familial relationships etc......you may get someone that has one of yours in their family tree at least. 1. I presume you have checked the BMD's in Oz.....the LDS I volunteer at has SA, NSW & Victorian BMD's BUT only to certain dates......so ????? 2. I have Stevens in the area of Bexley but I have little information as they are an off shoot line and after the 1911 census..... But here goes. Ethel Frances PARKER born 1/10/1890 in Lewisham (5 miles from Bexley) married George Arthur STEVENS 25/7/1918 in Perry Hill London and they had one son that I can ascertain John Arthur George STEVENS born 1920 in Catford, Surrey. So if any of these gel with your family.......holler. Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > Hi, > My great great grandparents were John Stevens and Jane (Knott), of > Bexley Heath. I have traced some of their children, Joshua and Willie > came to Australia, Frederick went to Canada,and daughter Jane married in > England. I am having difficulty finding much about their other > children. Stevens is such a 'popular' surname in Kent. Is anyone tracing > this family? > Jan in Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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In 1901 Joseph Henry Carter aged 28 is a gunner in the Royal Marine Artillery on board the Renown in Malta, born St Lukes, London RG13; Piece: 5332; Folio: 22; Page: 35 When you say "He believed his birthdate was March 13, 1875" how do you know ? What birthdate is on his Navy records ? How sure are you that this is the same man as in 1911 ? Anne South Australia Robin Carter wrote: > Hello, Listers, > > Thank you to everyone who replied re my questions on workhouse admissions. > Several people asked for more details and what I already knew. > > Here goes. > > Joseph Henry CARTER. possible years of birth. 1874, 1875, 1876 > > He believed his birthdate was March 13, 1875 and that he was born in London. > > THe furthest I have been able to trace him is the 1891 census where he appears > in the Royal Navy , born London, aged 18 years. We believe he played around > with his age to join up because all other documents list him as being born in > 1875. > He also stated he was born in London and again his documents show , St. Lukes, > Pancras or London . > > THe 1911 census , he states he was born in Leicester, age 36. > I have found possible families in the 1881 census but the details do not fit > with later information. Since Joseph said he was an orphan , is the Joseph > Carter in Spalding workhouse ours? THe bc for this James does not bear this > out. > Short of just continuing to get birth certificates which hopefully will one day > be the right one , does anyone have another suggestion? I have looked at name > patterns in the census and his children but not much help here. On his 1902 > marriage certificate he says his father was James, a shoemaker , deceased. Big > help! With names like Joseph, James and Sarah liberally sprinkled through the > descendants and the last name of Carter it is a challenge. > > > I have not had any clues from his naval records from the on line documents of > the National Archives. > > Thanks everyone for reading this far, > > Robin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In 1891, in Lincolnshire, there is a Joseph Carter age 18, general labourer, born in Spalding, who sounds like the workhouse one: Class: RG12; Piece: 2557; Folio 98; Page 19 What's the reference for the one you found in 1891 ? I can't find him. What is his occupation on the marriage certificate ? Anne South Australia Robin Carter wrote: > Hello, Listers, > > Thank you to everyone who replied re my questions on workhouse admissions. > Several people asked for more details and what I already knew. > > Here goes. > > Joseph Henry CARTER. possible years of birth. 1874, 1875, 1876 > > He believed his birthdate was March 13, 1875 and that he was born in London. > > THe furthest I have been able to trace him is the 1891 census where he appears > in the Royal Navy , born London, aged 18 years. We believe he played around > with his age to join up because all other documents list him as being born in > 1875. > He also stated he was born in London and again his documents show , St. Lukes, > Pancras or London . > > THe 1911 census , he states he was born in Leicester, age 36. > I have found possible families in the 1881 census but the details do not fit > with later information. Since Joseph said he was an orphan , is the Joseph > Carter in Spalding workhouse ours? THe bc for this James does not bear this > out. > Short of just continuing to get birth certificates which hopefully will one day > be the right one , does anyone have another suggestion? I have looked at name > patterns in the census and his children but not much help here. On his 1902 > marriage certificate he says his father was James, a shoemaker , deceased. Big > help! With names like Joseph, James and Sarah liberally sprinkled through the > descendants and the last name of Carter it is a challenge. > > > I have not had any clues from his naval records from the on line documents of > the National Archives. > > Thanks everyone for reading this far, > > Robin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks to all the good advice, when you've been doing this research for a long time but with long "not doing" time inbetween it is hard to remember all the site/places you can go. I have just found what I expect 2 of the boys marriages. I will answer you all as I deal with your advice and what I have found as a result. Thanks.... Glenda

Hi from New Zealand. At last I am getting to the modern generations and with a visit to UK coming up in May next year I am wondering if anyone has any HELP that can lead me to tracing “today’s” relatives. I would love to meet them. I have got 3 males who (presuming no deaths occured) would have been 66,64 and 59 in 1961. How do I go about looking for their marriages and children there of without costing $$$$millions. With 3 boys I would be very unlucky not to find some descendants?? Wouldn’t you think. They were all born in Maidstone, actually lived in Tufton St Maidstone (wish I’d know this when there in 2006) been in that house since 1881 census. Any suggestions would be helpful. The Findmy past is too expensive to check every ¼ from 1911 to see if married. All help very much appreciated. Glenda

Can anyone tell me how I could look at the 1921+ census for England e.g. are they on film that I could get at the LDS History Centres??????

Hi Simon & Jacquie "A cut above a labourer".......I am not so sure where my grandfather was concerned Simon. Why? Well I had three red leather bound books on engineering that were the property of my father and mother and apparently belonged to my grandfather. I was sooo disappointed and annoyed, when the family sold them for a pittance to an antique dealer when mum went into a nursing home. So I presume 1. That there are various forms of engineer....Engineer drivers being the engineers (trains) perhaps after many years service....... head engineer drive perhaps??? 2. Marine Engineers - like my GG who started out as an apprentice engineer. I believe because of the rest of the family working the docks and "marine" being in a lot of the census data, it was to do with ships/ship building. Yes I believe they started out as boilermakers, but how did my grandsfather get his qualifications? I have never found anything concrete. 3. Then there are engineers to do with building bridges. 4. And I believe that engineers also dug the tunnels in the World wars and the Brunel tunnel etc in Rotherhithe (docks area) . Soooo engineers can be all sorts and my grandfather was a Marine engineer and retired as a General engineer........ Perhaps Marine Corps and then retired from the Marines. I wish I could lob myself off at the LMA or somewhere......sigh Ex-Kentish lass in Australia Pam from Adelaide Australia >I suspect that being an engineer was a cut above being a labourer. My >great-great-grandfathers George Knott and George Harrell, both from Strood, >appear to have both worked in the cement works. George Knott is described >variously as a labourer, manual labourer, cement works labourer, burner in >a cement works. George Harrell, on the other hand, was an engineer, an >engine driver in a cement works (I suspect this means a stationary engine) >and even a traction engine driver! The Harrells lived in the nice part of >Strood, while the Knotts moved from place to place among the rough bit. I >suspect that the Harrells were not too pleased about their daughter >marrying my great-grandfather.

Glenda I finally found my Living relatives (cousins) in Maidstone and Sheerness, Kent and in Petersfield/Eastleigh area of Hampshire. For many many years my mother and I wrote to the old addresses I had found after my grandfather died (NSW) - and always received 'no answer'. Mind you the last letter came to him in 1936 :) About 15 years ago, I contacted the Salvation Army Missing Persons Office. My mother had been very ill and was always worried that the family had lost contact, so I asked the Salvo's to help find the cousins. As it was a case of reuniting a family - they were glad to help. Within 2 weeks we had a call from the Salvation Army with exciting news that they had found our cousins and a warning not to get excited and run up a large phone bill between here and the UK :) My mother was very excited and she and her cousins started writing letters a couple of times per week. I have kept all of them. Since then I have met most of my cousins, as I am lucky enough to be able to visit the UK almost every year. We all keep in touch by email. The cousins are in my own age group (2nd cousins). The oldest was my mother's first cousins - a brother and sister who were both in their mid to late 70yrs. One cousin (Margaret) got her daughter to teach her how to send emails and she kept in touch with me, until she died last year aged 87yrs. Her brother and his wife write to me at Christmas and sometimes in between. It is the children and grand children of these two who keep in touch. We have had a great time swapping images and stories. We were great supporters of the Salvation Army before this - and even more supporting now. Kind regards Ann Spiro Perth, Western Australia research@sbse.net.au http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~blacksmiths/ The surnames BASKETT and Nutty are registered with GOONS http://www.one-name.org/

Hello, Listers, Thank you to everyone who replied re my questions on workhouse admissions. Several people asked for more details and what I already knew. Here goes. Joseph Henry CARTER.   possible years of birth. 1874,  1875, 1876 He believed his  birthdate was March 13, 1875 and that he was born in London. THe furthest I have been able to trace him is the 1891 census where he appears  in the Royal Navy , born London, aged 18 years.  We believe he played around with his age to join up because all other documents list him as being born in 1875.   He also stated he was born in London and again his documents show , St. Lukes, Pancras or London .  THe 1911 census , he states he was born in Leicester, age 36.    I have found possible  families in the 1881 census but the details do not fit with later information. Since Joseph said he was an orphan  , is  the Joseph Carter in Spalding workhouse ours?  THe bc for this James does not bear this out.   Short of just continuing to get birth certificates which hopefully will one day be the right one , does anyone have another suggestion?  I have looked at name patterns in the census and his children but not much help here. On his 1902 marriage certificate he says his father was James, a shoemaker , deceased.  Big help!  With names like Joseph, James and Sarah liberally sprinkled through the descendants and the last name of Carter it is a challenge.  I have not had any clues from his naval records from the on line documents of the National Archives. Thanks everyone for reading this far, Robin