I am trying to find something of the ancestry of Raymond Francis Crafter. He was born in 1938 in Croydon and adopted in 1942. I think his mother may have been Gertrude. I have information since his adoption so do not need that. TIA Melvyn.

Hi, Does anyone know if the church records have been copied and are available anywhere for Lower Halstow? Where would people in the mid 1800s be buried if not at the Church? Thanks, Gloria

Hi Bob I remember when I first started my family tree I asked dad if we had any athletes in our ancestry. He thought about, then said, not really but we once had a boxer. I thought wow! Then he said...but we had to give him away because he chewed up all the shoes. Kind regards Ann Spiro Kent FHS member#9397

Hi Ann, many thanks for the morning smile. I've often wondered if you are any connection to him/her of the 'graph' fame? ;-) Snap! :-o ;-) Bob in Spain. Researching BOXER anywhere. KFHS #10820 EoLFHS #13588 GOONS #4763 Genealogists do it backwards On 16/03/2012 8:11 AM, SBS Engineers Research wrote: > Hi Bob > I remember when I first started my family tree I asked dad if we had any > athletes in our ancestry. He thought about, then said, not really but we > once had a boxer. I thought wow! Then he said...but we had to give him > away because he chewed up all the shoes. > > Kind regards > Ann Spiro > > Kent FHS member#9397 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you Bob, I've never seen "Higgler" spelt either, He may well have been one before he went on to be a farmer. George Rainham, Kent.

Could it be 'HIGLER' (I admit I've only ever seen it spelled with two 'g's but .....................) A Higler/Higgler is a small-time dealer. Rag & bone/scrap metal/knife seller, that sort of thing. Bob in Spain. Researching BOXER anywhere. KFHS #10820 EoLFHS #13588 GOONS #4763 Genealogists do it backwards On 15/03/2012 4:52 PM, george pickering wrote: > > > I have traced a colleague's Kent ancestor back to Middlesex in the > > 1851 census, however, I cannot work out occupation given. > > > > The ancestor is James THIRGOOD, born 1826, Enfield, Middlesex. > > > > The census details are: > > > > Piece: 1703 > > Folio: 505 > > Page: 25 > > > > The transcription details states "Hiyler". > > > > On the image, the word , to my eyes, ends with "...yler". > > > > In the consequential censuses James is a farmer of several acres. > > > > Can anyone assist please? > > > > > > George > > Rainham, Kent. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have traced a colleague's Kent ancestor back to Middlesex in the 1851 census, however, I cannot work out occupation given. The ancestor is James THIRGOOD, born 1826, Enfield, Middlesex. The census details are: Piece: 1703 Folio: 505 Page: 25 The transcription details states "Hiyler". On the image, the word , to my eyes, ends with "...yler". In the consequential censuses James is a farmer of several acres. Can anyone assist please? George Rainham, Kent.

Hi Jack  I am hoping to add the will of Margaratt Beeching to the Kent Genealogy website will transcripts. One problem is I can't find the will listed on the Kent indexes.  Can you tell me which court it was probated at?  If you have a document reference that would be even better. Would you like me to include an email link for you in case anyone wants to contact you about it?  Obviously they can do that already through the Kent list as your email will remain in the archives. Finally, if you have any other Kent will transcripts, or extracts, pre 1858 I welcome all contributions to the website. Maureen Rawson [email protected] Kent Genealogy Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mrawson/ >________________________________ > From: Jack Beeching <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:25:04 AM >Subject: [KENT-ENG] Help with Will of Margaratt BEECHING Hawkhurst 1570 > > >I hope the formatting of this will stays intact. My problem with this is >determining how many children Margaratt had and if she was the wife of >Stephen Beeching the elder mentioned in the will. I would appreciate any >thoughts. Thanks Jack Beeching > > >In the name of god Amen Margaratt Beeching > >of Hawkhurst First I give and bequeath to Andrew Beeching John Beeching >Robert Beeching Edmond > >

Hi Susannah Many thanks for your efforts in photographing headstones and writing up inscriptions. I'm on the lookout for BASKETT and BRIGGS, so will browse your site at regular intervals. I will send your link on to others. Regards Ann Spiro [email protected] ONS: Baskett; Briggs. DNA Project: Baskett OPS: Blue Town Kent - under construction The Blacksmiths & Related Occupations Website http://[email protected]

Thanks Donna, Antony, Bryan, Kent, and all you Kent listers that responded so quickly to my post, and supplied the information I was looking for You are an amazing group Dale Edmonstone

I have from Family Search.org the 1871 census for England and Wales that reads like this Name Robert Edmonstone Event Census Event Date 02 Apr. 1871 Gender Male Relationship to Head of Household Patient Birthplace Kelso Scotland Record Type Household Registration District Medway Sub-District Gillingham Event Parish Chatham County Kent Robert Edmonstone was my great grandfather, and my question is would the actual census provide any more information than this,for example is this a hospital, and if so what kind of hospital, and would it be worth ordering the film from the LDS I would appreciate any information from someone familiar with this census Dale Edmonstone Canada

Dale, If you contact me offline I will give you the information you request re: your great grandfather Robert Edmonstone. Donna Casey San Diego, CA   The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ________________________________ From: Dale Edmonstone <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:05 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] 1871 Census I have from Family Search.org  the 1871 census for England and Wales that reads like this                                                                           Name            Robert Edmonstone                                       Event            Census                               Event Date            02 Apr. 1871                                     Gender              Male Relationship to Head of Household            Patient                               Birthplace              Kelso Scotland                             Record Type            Household                     Registration District            Medway                                   Sub-District          Gillingham                                 Event Parish          Chatham                                   County                  Kent Robert Edmonstone was my great grandfather, and my question is would the actual census provide any more information than this,for example is this a hospital, and if so what kind of hospital, and would it be worth ordering the film from the LDS I would appreciate any information from someone familiar with this census Dale Edmonstone Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the comments, Anne. A worse case! I'm aware of a couple of other, similarly fickle, Stoner lines. No doubt there is an explanation but we just don't know what it is, and whether we'd consider it logical! Thanks, Alan Anne Peat wrote on 05/03/2012 17:44: > There may not be any logical explanation Alan. > My maternal great-grandfather appears in certificates and some censuses as either SHERIDAN or SHERRINGTON ( I can understand that, as he and his wives (2) were illiterate, but also in some censuses as HARRIS as does his father. > > We've never found out why. > > Anne > On 5 Mar 2012, at 17:26, [email protected] wrote: > >> The IGI has a marriage in West Farleigh 13/2/1821 between William >> STAPELS and Alice SMITH. >> >> >> Parents William and Alice are STAPLES in censuses and their deaths in >> 1865 and 1876. >> Their family is to be found as either STAPLES or STONER without obvious >> pattern. >> >> For example James marries and dies as STONER. In 1841 and 1851 (with >> his parents) he is STAPLES, and again in 1871 and 1901. In 1861, 1881, >> and 1891 he is STONER. I believe William junior's tombstone shows both >> names. >> >> My question is whether anyone knows this family and/or can suggest the >> reason for the two name approach. Why would William STAPELS and Alice >> SMITH become STONER for baptisms. >> Alan Stoner

>From The Standard ( London, England ), Saturday, March 26, 1892; Issue 21130. DEATH. OGLE . - March 21, at Shanghai, Robert Graham OGLE , aged 41, third son of John OGLE , Sackville-road, West Brighton, formerly of St. Clere, Sevenoaks.

Hi Daryl Thanks for that good old google hey. Regards Dianna

Hi Dianna, I would suggest you just Google - Woolwich Journal and Army Navy Gazette - it comes up with a number of suggestions HTH Daryl from OZ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dianna charles Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2012 10:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [KENT-ENG] Woolwich Journal/Army Navy Gazette HI Everyone I'm hoping that someone will be able to advise me please where/how I could locate copies of the Woolwich Journal and Army Navy Gazette. I'm hoping that I may find out something about my GGUncle William Byrne who was in the Royal Marines 4th Company Chatham Division 1798-1816, then he was in Woolwich and died in 1852 Any help very much appreciated kind regards Dianna in Sydney ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI Everyone I'm hoping that someone will be able to advise me please where/how I could locate copies of the Woolwich Journal and Army Navy Gazette. I'm hoping that I may find out something about my GGUncle William Byrne who was in the Royal Marines 4th Company Chatham Division 1798-1816, then he was in Woolwich and died in 1852 Any help very much appreciated kind regards Dianna in Sydney

Dianna, As mentioned previously, copies from 1844 are held at the Greenwich Heritage Centre. http://www.greenwichheritage.org/family/index.html HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dianna charles I'm hoping that someone will be able to advise me please where/how I could locate copies of the Woolwich Journal and Army Navy Gazette. I'm hoping that I may find out something about my GGUncle William Byrne who was in the Royal Marines 4th Company Chatham Division 1798-1816, then he was in Woolwich and died in 1852 Any help very much appreciated kind regards Dianna in Sydney

There may not be any logical explanation Alan. My maternal great-grandfather appears in certificates and some censuses as either SHERIDAN or SHERRINGTON ( I can understand that, as he and his wives (2) were illiterate, but also in some censuses as HARRIS as does his father. We've never found out why. Anne On 5 Mar 2012, at 17:26, [email protected] wrote: > The IGI has a marriage in West Farleigh 13/2/1821 between William > STAPELS and Alice SMITH. > > > Parents William and Alice are STAPLES in censuses and their deaths in > 1865 and 1876. > Their family is to be found as either STAPLES or STONER without obvious > pattern. > > For example James marries and dies as STONER. In 1841 and 1851 (with > his parents) he is STAPLES, and again in 1871 and 1901. In 1861, 1881, > and 1891 he is STONER. I believe William junior's tombstone shows both > names. > > My question is whether anyone knows this family and/or can suggest the > reason for the two name approach. Why would William STAPELS and Alice > SMITH become STONER for baptisms. > , Alan Stoner >

The IGI has a marriage in West Farleigh 13/2/1821 between William STAPELS and Alice SMITH. Then baptisms with parents William STONER and Alice West Farleigh 7/12/1823 of James STONER Hunton 9/4/1826 of John STONER Hunton 6/7/1828 of William STONER Hunton 23/5/1830 of Edmund STONER then a move to Sussex where the PR has Nuthurst 22/7/1832 Elizabeth STONER Nuthurst 31/8/1834 Ann STONER Parents William and Alice are STAPLES in censuses and their deaths in 1865 and 1876. Their family is to be found as either STAPLES or STONER without obvious pattern. For example James marries and dies as STONER. In 1841 and 1851 (with his parents) he is STAPLES, and again in 1871 and 1901. In 1861, 1881, and 1891 he is STONER. I believe William junior's tombstone shows both names. My question is whether anyone knows this family and/or can suggest the reason for the two name approach. Why would William STAPELS and Alice SMITH become STONER for baptisms. Father William is shown in 1851 born West Farleigh 1792, with Alice perhaps ditto 1795. In 1861 William is born Tunbridge, Alice West Farleigh. Any thoughts welcomed. Thanks, Alan Stoner