From The Examiner ( London, England ), Sunday, December 23, 1832; Issue 1299.   DEATH. At Dover, aged 70, Captain J. HATLEY , R. N., last surviving companion of the illustrious navigator, Captain COOK .

From Daily Gazetteer ( London Edition ) Monday, February 27, 1738; Issue 827.   On Friday last died after two Days Illness of a Fever, at the Griffin Inn in Smithfield, Gilbert NOWLER , Esq., a Gentleman of a considerable Estate at Canterbury.

From Daily Journal ( London, England ) Friday, August 9, 1728; Issue 2367.   PORT NEWS. DEAL, August 7.  The Looe and the Sheerness Men of War remain, but all the Outward-bound sailed last Night to the Westward, viz. the William Galley, Capt. SACKETT , for Leghorn and Naples; the Samuel, Capt. HARPER , for Cadiz; the Barbados Merchant, Capt. BULLOCK , for Barbados; the Elizabeth, Capt. PULESTONE , for Lisbon; the Brothers, Capt. MILLER , for Newfoundland; and the Dorsetshire, Capt. KEITH for Cork.  Wind N.

Hi Everyone I'm trying to find some information on the above Lucretia (Littey) BLACKMAN b 1798 - Maidstone Kent, parents William Blackman and Mary LUCK/LUCKE. Littey Blackman married James ELPHICK 11 November 1816 Hastings Sussex England. Lucretia arrived in NSW on the 20th of April 1839 on board the Morayshire with her two children Sarah and Stephen. I would like to find out a little more on Lucretia's parents William Blackman and Mary LUCK. Many thanks kind regards Dianna

Mary Beth CASTLE and PAGE families certainly did know each other. My 4xgreat grandfather was Thomas CASTLE who married an Elizabeth PAGE on 6 July 1811 at Stelling Minnis. Their son, Daniel CASTLE (my 3xgreat grandfather) was baptised 30 March 1814 at Stelling Minnis. They had a daughter, Thomasine Eliza, baptised 18 Nov 1832 also at Stelling Minnis. There were probably other children, but I don't have more info, nor any more on Thomas or Elizabeth yet. Steve Baldock B.Sc.(Hons)(Eng) *[email protected]* *http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk* Facebook: baldockfaggfamily <http://www.facebook.com/baldockfaggfamily> Twitter: @baldockfaggfam <http://twitter.com/baldockfaggfam> Norfolk FHS # *12782* Kent FHS # *12869*

Hi Dianna There is the marr shown on familysearch.org of William Blackman and Mary Luck on 8 Nov 1795 at All Saints, Maidstone. I can only see one Maidstone birth (presumably) for these parents of Susan chr 25 Nov 1798 at All Saints. There is a Letty Blackman being chr on 27 Nov 1796 at St Nicholas, Rochester, Kent, which may be of interest to you. Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dianna charles Sent: 25 March 2012 05:14 To: [email protected] Subject: [KENT-ENG] Lucretia BLACKMAN Hi Everyone I'm trying to find some information on the above Lucretia (Littey) BLACKMAN b 1798 - Maidstone Kent, parents William Blackman and Mary LUCK/LUCKE. Littey Blackman married James ELPHICK 11 November 1816 Hastings Sussex England. Lucretia arrived in NSW on the 20th of April 1839 on board the Morayshire with her two children Sarah and Stephen. I would like to find out a little more on Lucretia's parents William Blackman and Mary LUCK. Many thanks kind regards Dianna ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

David, Sorry I can't help with the mothers names. LDS has Charlotte baptised at Gravesend 4 Aug 1758 and this is confirmed by looking at the register images at Cityark. Unfortunately the register only has the fathers name. regards Peter Thomas Smart married Charlotte Dalton on 13 May 1782 at St Peter + St Paul Church, Gravesend. I have been told that Thomas had been born about 1747 at Milton by Gravesend and that his father was Thomas born in Kent about 1720 but I don't know the name of his mother. I have also been told that Charlotte was born at Gravesend about 1758 and that her father was John Dalton born in Kent about 1730. I also don't know the name of Charlotte's mother. Can anyone tell me the names of the mothers? David

Thomas Smart married Charlotte Dalton on 13 May 1782 at St Peter + St Paul Church, Gravesend. I have been told that Thomas had been born about 1747 at Milton by Gravesend and that his father was Thomas born in Kent about 1720 but I don't know the name of his mother. I have also been told that Charlotte was born at Gravesend about 1758 and that her father was John Dalton born in Kent about 1730. I also don't know the name of Charlotte's mother. Can anyone tell me the names of the mothers? David

Hello Again Listers, Thank you for your assistance on my first enquiry. As usual, the generosity of people on this list is lovely. It turns out there are several men of different generations named George Fox living in that part of the county. I do most of my research into Weald families and not in the eastern parishes of the county. I gather from my reading that this is a common surname in those parts. How about Castle and Page families? Can any of you connect the dots amongst these three families prior to 1840? I have found circumstantial evidence in the Œ51 census that they at least knew eachother. But were they related? Thank you in advance for your help. Regards, Mary Beth

Hi David Me again. I have just found Catherine Anne Smart's christening on familysearch. Catherine Anne HAWLEY b 1 Jan 1808 chr 9 Feb 1808 Leybourne. Parents Henry HAWLEY & Catherine Elizabeth. (I know this is her since George & Catherine's first son was chr Henry Hawley Smart) Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Railton Sent: 22 March 2012 21:18 To: KENT-ENG Subject: [KENT-ENG] SMART - Dover I am interested in finding any information about General George J Smart of the Royal Artillery who was born at Dover in 1833/4. I see him in the 1861 census but after that he spent most of his life on army duties around the Empire. Does anyone know anything about his family/ancestry? David ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi David I have found his parents in 1851. His father George John is shown as Late Major, Land Agent and Farmer b 1804 Ashford, Kent. He is farming in Fulsby, Tumby, Lincolnshire with wife Catherine b Leybourne Grange, Kent (This is at West Malling, Maidstone and from 1936 to 1996 was used as a Mental Hospital). Children with them are Catherine b Dover and Dora Jane b c1840 Tumby, Lincs. I assume George was already in the Army. I have the Ashford St Mary CMB but no Smarts on there. Maybe some else has Others. Although of course it's possible that he was from one of the surrounding villages and just said Ashford since it was the nearest town Regards Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of HOLDEN DOROTHY Sent: 23 March 2012 00:07 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] SMART - Dover Hi David, Is this him - taken from the London Gazette - INDIAN LOCAL SERVICE. To be removed to the Unemployed Supernumerary List: — Major-General George Smart, Madras Infantry. Dated 12th September, 1885. INDIAN LOCAL SERVICE. Major-General George Smart, Madras Infantry, to be Lieutenant-General on the Unemployed Supernumerary List. Dated 2nd August, 1887. I can't find a baptism for him at either St Mary the Virgin or St James the Apostle or St Peter and Paul, just three of the churches in Dover.  Do you have any idea of his parents details? I see on the 1841 census he is at East Cliff with several house servants so presumablly was already an Officer in the Army, the box for born in County does have a Y in it but that could mean anywhere in Kent, have you other information to say he was baptised in Dover? Kind regards, Dot On 22 March 2012 21:18, David Railton <[email protected]> wrote: > I am interested in finding any information about General George J Smart of > the Royal Artillery who was born at Dover in 1833/4. > > I see him in the 1861 census but after that he spent most of his life on > army duties around the Empire. > > Does anyone know anything about his family/ancestry? > > > > David > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Dot Holden Dover Kent UK There are three things that can never be retrieved, the spoken word, time past and the neglected opportunity ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have found the christening in St James'Dover and sent details to David Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of HOLDEN DOROTHY Sent: 23 March 2012 00:07 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] SMART - Dover Hi David, Is this him - taken from the London Gazette - INDIAN LOCAL SERVICE. To be removed to the Unemployed Supernumerary List: — Major-General George Smart, Madras Infantry. Dated 12th September, 1885. INDIAN LOCAL SERVICE. Major-General George Smart, Madras Infantry, to be Lieutenant-General on the Unemployed Supernumerary List. Dated 2nd August, 1887. I can't find a baptism for him at either St Mary the Virgin or St James the Apostle or St Peter and Paul, just three of the churches in Dover.  Do you have any idea of his parents details? I see on the 1841 census he is at East Cliff with several house servants so presumablly was already an Officer in the Army, the box for born in County does have a Y in it but that could mean anywhere in Kent, have you other information to say he was baptised in Dover? Kind regards, Dot On 22 March 2012 21:18, David Railton <[email protected]> wrote: > I am interested in finding any information about General George J Smart of > the Royal Artillery who was born at Dover in 1833/4. > > I see him in the 1861 census but after that he spent most of his life on > army duties around the Empire. > > Does anyone know anything about his family/ancestry? > > > > David > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Dot Holden Dover Kent UK There are three things that can never be retrieved, the spoken word, time past and the neglected opportunity ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi David, Is this him - taken from the London Gazette - INDIAN LOCAL SERVICE. To be removed to the Unemployed Supernumerary List: — Major-General George Smart, Madras Infantry. Dated 12th September, 1885. INDIAN LOCAL SERVICE. Major-General George Smart, Madras Infantry, to be Lieutenant-General on the Unemployed Supernumerary List. Dated 2nd August, 1887. I can't find a baptism for him at either St Mary the Virgin or St James the Apostle or St Peter and Paul, just three of the churches in Dover.  Do you have any idea of his parents details? I see on the 1841 census he is at East Cliff with several house servants so presumablly was already an Officer in the Army, the box for born in County does have a Y in it but that could mean anywhere in Kent, have you other information to say he was baptised in Dover? Kind regards, Dot On 22 March 2012 21:18, David Railton <[email protected]> wrote: > I am interested in finding any information about General George J Smart of > the Royal Artillery who was born at Dover in 1833/4. > > I see him in the 1861 census but after that he spent most of his life on > army duties around the Empire. > > Does anyone know anything about his family/ancestry? > > > > David > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Dot Holden Dover Kent UK There are three things that can never be retrieved, the spoken word, time past and the neglected opportunity

I am interested in finding any information about General George J Smart of the Royal Artillery who was born at Dover in 1833/4. I see him in the 1861 census but after that he spent most of his life on army duties around the Empire. Does anyone know anything about his family/ancestry? David

Mary , There was also a man named Siddens married at Blean around same time so I would guess poor transcription or recording of the names and Ann is a Siddens/ Sithers . Dan J. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:32:41 +0000 > Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Fox Family in Eastern Kent > > Not many babies were baptised in Fordwich in the 1820s - 2 named Ann in > 1822, one the daughter of John and Francis SITHERS. In 1841 an Ann SITHERS, > 22 was a servant at Upper Garrington, Adisham. I've seen SITHERS also > transcribed as SCITHERS and SIDDENS. HTH. Karen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Jenkins" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:19 PM > Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Fox Family in Eastern Kent > > > > Mary , There was a marriage last qtr. 1847 [ 5-73] at Blean for a George > Fox to Ann [ Sudders]. At Ancestry Trees , 1 person Graham_ Beckett is > showing a George Fox as son of a Michael and Jane[ Martin], born > Shephardswell . No other info. Dan Jenkins > > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:47:34 +0000 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [KENT-ENG] Fox Family in Eastern Kent > > > > Hello Listers. > > > > I¹m hoping you can help me track down some families in the Eastern part of > > the county. Here¹s the first: I am looking for BMD on Geo. and Ann Fox. > > On > > the 1851 census they were living in Charlton near Dover. > > > > Geo. was 26 and born in Shepherdswell (Sibertswold) and working as a > > Harbour > > labourer. > > Wife Ann was 29 and born in Fordwich. > > Their son Geo was 2 and born in Gillingham. > > > > I am looking for any information on Geo¹s parentage and Ann¹s, please. > > Marriage info would be wonderful too. I¹m curious about their witnesses. > > > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > > > Cheers, > > Mary Kitzel > > -- > > Mary E. Kitzel MSc, CI, CT > > DPhil Candidate/Associate Tutor > > Department of Geography > > Arts C329 > > University of Sussex > > Falmer > > Brighton BN1 9SJ > > > > [email protected] > > http://www.sussex.ac.uk/profiles/210129 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not many babies were baptised in Fordwich in the 1820s - 2 named Ann in 1822, one the daughter of John and Francis SITHERS. In 1841 an Ann SITHERS, 22 was a servant at Upper Garrington, Adisham. I've seen SITHERS also transcribed as SCITHERS and SIDDENS. HTH. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Jenkins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Fox Family in Eastern Kent Mary , There was a marriage last qtr. 1847 [ 5-73] at Blean for a George Fox to Ann [ Sudders]. At Ancestry Trees , 1 person Graham_ Beckett is showing a George Fox as son of a Michael and Jane[ Martin], born Shephardswell . No other info. Dan Jenkins > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:47:34 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [KENT-ENG] Fox Family in Eastern Kent > > Hello Listers. > > I¹m hoping you can help me track down some families in the Eastern part of > the county. Here¹s the first: I am looking for BMD on Geo. and Ann Fox. > On > the 1851 census they were living in Charlton near Dover. > > Geo. was 26 and born in Shepherdswell (Sibertswold) and working as a > Harbour > labourer. > Wife Ann was 29 and born in Fordwich. > Their son Geo was 2 and born in Gillingham. > > I am looking for any information on Geo¹s parentage and Ann¹s, please. > Marriage info would be wonderful too. I¹m curious about their witnesses. > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Cheers, > Mary Kitzel > -- > Mary E. Kitzel MSc, CI, CT > DPhil Candidate/Associate Tutor > Department of Geography > Arts C329 > University of Sussex > Falmer > Brighton BN1 9SJ > > [email protected] > http://www.sussex.ac.uk/profiles/210129 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for that, Donna. I am currently trawling through the gazillions of William Arnolds (again!) in the apprenticeship records on Ancestry. William Arnold seems to be just about as common as John Smith!! I know the National Archives show records held at London Guildhall so I'll try there as well. Unfortunately, it's a bit of a commute for me to visit in person! kind regards, Jane On 22/03/2012 11:13 AM, Donna Casey wrote: > Jane, I do not know if this will help in the time period of your ancestor...but my apprenticeship records of the early/mid 1600s show the fathers name in the original books at London Guildhall...It will be stated in the initial apprenticeship date document/page...The father's name and the village and county will be listed. > > Hope this helps you. > > Donna > > The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. > > > ________________________________ > From: Jane<[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:57 PM > Subject: [KENT-ENG] William ARNOLD b 1787 Sevenoaks > > Hello, > > Still trying to piece together the ARNOLD family from Sevenoaks, and I > have found military records for a William ARNOLD, born 1787 in > Sevenoaks, and enlisting in 1807. William moved from the 56th foot > regiment, to the 22nd Light Dragoons, to the 13th Light Dragoons before > being given a medical discharge in 1836. From 1808 to 1834 he was > stationed in the East Indies. This William's trade on enlistment is > listed as a tailor, which helps me to match him into the ARNOLD family I > am tracing. Unfortunately, none of the military records show next of kin. > > I currently have 3 (maybe 4) W. Arnolds in the tailor/draper trade in > Sevenoaks, but this man does not seem to fit the dates of any people I > already have records for, so perhaps he is a cousin?? > > The eldest I have no info on, and really am guessing his name was > William. There is a William in the Apprenticeship Indenture records in > 1782 and 1792(as a master tailor) that I think may belong to this man. > The 1782 record shows him with Henry Arnold also as master. > His son William married Susannah CHAPMAN in 1792 and he died in 1820. > His son William was born in 1801, married Jane SPENCER and died in 1869. > His son William, born 1840, married Anna Maria JOSLING, moved to Gt > Yarmouth, Norfolk, where my grandfather, Ralph Josling ARNOLD was born > in 1886. > > Can anyone please help me identify the family of this military man > William, and so give him his place in the family. > > Cheers, > > Jane Eliza (nee Arnold) > NSW, Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, Still trying to piece together the ARNOLD family from Sevenoaks, and I have found military records for a William ARNOLD, born 1787 in Sevenoaks, and enlisting in 1807. William moved from the 56th foot regiment, to the 22nd Light Dragoons, to the 13th Light Dragoons before being given a medical discharge in 1836. From 1808 to 1834 he was stationed in the East Indies. This William's trade on enlistment is listed as a tailor, which helps me to match him into the ARNOLD family I am tracing. Unfortunately, none of the military records show next of kin. I currently have 3 (maybe 4) W. Arnolds in the tailor/draper trade in Sevenoaks, but this man does not seem to fit the dates of any people I already have records for, so perhaps he is a cousin?? The eldest I have no info on, and really am guessing his name was William. There is a William in the Apprenticeship Indenture records in 1782 and 1792(as a master tailor) that I think may belong to this man. The 1782 record shows him with Henry Arnold also as master. His son William married Susannah CHAPMAN in 1792 and he died in 1820. His son William was born in 1801, married Jane SPENCER and died in 1869. His son William, born 1840, married Anna Maria JOSLING, moved to Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk, where my grandfather, Ralph Josling ARNOLD was born in 1886. Can anyone please help me identify the family of this military man William, and so give him his place in the family. Cheers, Jane Eliza (nee Arnold) NSW, Australia

Mary , There was a marriage last qtr. 1847 [ 5-73] at Blean for a George Fox to Ann [ Sudders]. At Ancestry Trees , 1 person Graham_ Beckett is showing a George Fox as son of a Michael and Jane[ Martin], born Shephardswell . No other info. Dan Jenkins > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:47:34 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [KENT-ENG] Fox Family in Eastern Kent > > Hello Listers. > > I¹m hoping you can help me track down some families in the Eastern part of > the county. Here¹s the first: I am looking for BMD on Geo. and Ann Fox. On > the 1851 census they were living in Charlton near Dover. > > Geo. was 26 and born in Shepherdswell (Sibertswold) and working as a Harbour > labourer. > Wife Ann was 29 and born in Fordwich. > Their son Geo was 2 and born in Gillingham. > > I am looking for any information on Geo¹s parentage and Ann¹s, please. > Marriage info would be wonderful too. I¹m curious about their witnesses. > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Cheers, > Mary Kitzel > -- > Mary E. Kitzel MSc, CI, CT > DPhil Candidate/Associate Tutor > Department of Geography > Arts C329 > University of Sussex > Falmer > Brighton BN1 9SJ > > [email protected] > http://www.sussex.ac.uk/profiles/210129 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, September 20, 1817; Issue 3361. MARRIED. Thomas LLOYD, Esq., merchant, of Dover, to Miss Eleanor, 2d daughter of Mr. ELDEN , of Red Lion-street, Bloomsbury-square.