Hi All, Wondering if any of you have anything further on any twig of my HOWLAND family? Hilda Florence GRAY is my grandmother and I have her line, but I am interested in filling in any other detail that I can and to take the the line further back if I can. HOWLAND 1. Henry HOWLAND(farmer) children 1.1. Alfred HOWLAND Next Generation 1.1. Alfred HOWLAND(born circa 1829) married on 5th May 1850 in the Parish Church of Chatham, Charlotte JACKSON(father James Jackson- carpenter) (witnesses James Jackson& Mary Marsh) (note : in the marriage certificate Alfred gives Shoemaker as his profession, Charlotteis listed as being a minor at the time of marriage. Both give High Street, Chatham as the place of residence)(Cordwainer & Railway servant, 1881 census shows Alfred as a signalman living in Hernehill and that he has a second wife and children) children 1.1.1. Harriet HOWLAND(b. 7 November 1852, in Milton, Sittingbourne) Next Generation 1.1.1. Harriet HOWLAND(born 7th November 1852, in Milton, Sittingbourne) married 15th April 1877 in St. Mary's parish church of Teynham, James GRAY(born in Crayford, Kent the 4th August 1855, was christened in East Wickham the 23rd September 1855) (Horse Keeper in Brickfield) (witnesses at the wedding John Gray& Sarah Gray) (James gave his profession as a Labourer) 1881 census shows James and Harriet Gray living at Dearton St. Teynham. By 1901 census they are registered at Higham.  children 1.1.1.1. Alfred John GRAY(born 1877 Teynham baptised  St Mary's Teynham  8th October 1877) believed to have emigrated to Canada. In 1901 census listed as a navy man in the Royal Marine 1.1.1.2. Amelia Adelaide GRAY(born 1879 Teynham baptised  St Mary's Teynham  1st June 1879) 1.1.1.3. Percival Ethelbert GRAY(born 10th July 1881 and baptised St Mary's Teynham on 2nd October 1881. died in All Saints Hospital Chatham the 15 April 1941)  Listed as a waggoner in 1901 census * 1.1.1.4. Vincent Daivet GRAY(baptised St.Mary's Teynham 4th November 1883) 1.1.1.5. Hilda Florence GRAY(born 19th November 1885, Brickfield Cottage, Teynham, Faversham, died 2nd June 1955, 43 Invicta Road, Sheerness, Isle of Sheppey (C1S685979)* 1.1.1.6. Ada GRAYmarried COUCHMAN 1.1.1.7. Algernon Leo GRAY(born abt 1884, baptised St. Mary's Teynham 1st January 1888) Farm Labourer 1.1.1.8. Beatrice Lillian GRAY(baptised St. Mary's Teynham 6th October 1889) 1.1.1.9. Arthur E. GRAY(born abt. 1893 in Cooling Kent) 1.1.1.10.  Elsie F. GRAY(born abt. 1896 Cooling, Kent) married NORBURY* D. Stuart Hammond

Hi, I think you're in Canada so I thought I'd let you know that you can now order the films on-line to be delivered to your nearest Mormon Church with a Family History office (not all do). I did it last month and it only cost me $6. It is hard to find the particular section for ordering on the web site, but it can be done. Terry, Oakville, Ontario -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beverley Brookes Sent: April 8, 2012 16:22 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Mary Saltmarsh - Sevenoaks Kent OK, then if you are near a Mormon Church, you can have them order the Sevenoaks parish microfilm if the LDS has it. It costs about $9 to get it and they'll let you look at it for a month (in their office, of course). ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2012 1:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Mary Saltmarsh - Sevenoaks Kent Thanks. I've gone over the list of CDs again on http://www.kfhs.org.uk/public2.htm. Nothing for Sevenoaks, which is in Northwest Kent. This is an interesting site, though I found no listings for Saltmarsh and I've no idea how comprehensive it is: http://theweald.org/area.asp?Pid=PK.S.oaks ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverley Brookes <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, April 8, 2012 7:15 am Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Mary Saltmarsh -  Sevenoaks Kent To: [email protected] > The Kent Family History Society sells CDs of Parish > registrations.  Go to their website to see if they have > anything for Sevenoaks. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2012 8:52:43 PM > Subject: [KENT-ENG] Mary Saltmarsh -  Sevenoaks Kent > > Greetings from Canada. This is my first post to the Kent list. > > Mary Saltmarsh, widow, age 80, born Seven Oaks, Kent is in the > 1871 Census at Woodside Green, Great Hallingbury, Essex. > > In the 1861 Census she is age 69, in Great Hallingbury, born > "Kent, 7 Oaks" and is a "coachman's wife" living with > granddaughter Jane Cordwell, age 16, born London, Paddington. > I believe she was the wife of William Saltmarsh, coachman/male > servant, born, but not baptized in Leicester, Leicestershire, > who turns up on the 1851 and 1861 Censuses at Theydon Garnon, Essex.  > Have exhausted searching for this couple in Essex. They > apparently had nine children born and baptized at St Giles, > Great Hallingbury, Essex between 1818 and 1835. Some of the > baptisms have Mary, others, Sarah, as the mother, and others > have Mary crossed out with Sarah overwritten. William is > sometimes a coachman, servant, labourer. He died 25 Sep 1867, > Bishops Stortford. > > My question is: What is the best way of researching marriages in > Sevenoaks, Kent for Mary (maiden name unknown) and William > Saltmarsh, around 1815 or so?  > > I see that there is a Northwest Kent Family History Society > which would include Sevenoaks, but it requires a membership fee > before any searching can be done.  > > Before committing further resources, any advice would be appreciated. > > Thank you! > > Carolyn

OK, then if you are near a Mormon Church, you can have them order the Sevenoaks parish microfilm if the LDS has it. It costs about $9 to get it and they'll let you look at it for a month (in their office, of course). ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2012 1:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Mary Saltmarsh - Sevenoaks Kent Thanks. I've gone over the list of CDs again on http://www.kfhs.org.uk/public2.htm. Nothing for Sevenoaks, which is in Northwest Kent. This is an interesting site, though I found no listings for Saltmarsh and I've no idea how comprehensive it is: http://theweald.org/area.asp?Pid=PK.S.oaks ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverley Brookes <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, April 8, 2012 7:15 am Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Mary Saltmarsh -  Sevenoaks Kent To: [email protected] > The Kent Family History Society sells CDs of Parish > registrations.  Go to their website to see if they have > anything for Sevenoaks. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2012 8:52:43 PM > Subject: [KENT-ENG] Mary Saltmarsh -  Sevenoaks Kent > > Greetings from Canada. This is my first post to the Kent list. > > Mary Saltmarsh, widow, age 80, born Seven Oaks, Kent is in the > 1871 Census at Woodside Green, Great Hallingbury, Essex. > > In the 1861 Census she is age 69, in Great Hallingbury, born > "Kent, 7 Oaks" and is a "coachman's wife" living with > granddaughter Jane Cordwell, age 16, born London, Paddington. > I believe she was the wife of William Saltmarsh, coachman/male > servant, born, but not baptized in Leicester, Leicestershire, > who turns up on the 1851 and 1861 Censuses at Theydon Garnon, Essex.  > Have exhausted searching for this couple in Essex. They > apparently had nine children born and baptized at St Giles, > Great Hallingbury, Essex between 1818 and 1835. Some of the > baptisms have Mary, others, Sarah, as the mother, and others > have Mary crossed out with Sarah overwritten. William is > sometimes a coachman, servant, labourer. He died 25 Sep 1867, > Bishops Stortford. > > My question is: What is the best way of researching marriages in > Sevenoaks, Kent for Mary (maiden name unknown) and William > Saltmarsh, around 1815 or so?  > > I see that there is a Northwest Kent Family History Society > which would include Sevenoaks, but it requires a membership fee > before any searching can be done.  > > Before committing further resources, any advice would be appreciated. > > Thank you! > > Carolyn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks. I've gone over the list of CDs again on http://www.kfhs.org.uk/public2.htm. Nothing for Sevenoaks, which is in Northwest Kent. This is an interesting site, though I found no listings for Saltmarsh and I've no idea how comprehensive it is: http://theweald.org/area.asp?Pid=PK.S.oaks ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverley Brookes <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, April 8, 2012 7:15 am Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Mary Saltmarsh -  Sevenoaks Kent To: [email protected] > The Kent Family History Society sells CDs of Parish > registrations.  Go to their website to see if they have > anything for Sevenoaks. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2012 8:52:43 PM > Subject: [KENT-ENG] Mary Saltmarsh -  Sevenoaks Kent > > Greetings from Canada. This is my first post to the Kent list. > > Mary Saltmarsh, widow, age 80, born Seven Oaks, Kent is in the > 1871 Census at Woodside Green, Great Hallingbury, Essex. > > In the 1861 Census she is age 69, in Great Hallingbury, born > "Kent, 7 Oaks" and is a "coachman's wife" living with > granddaughter Jane Cordwell, age 16, born London, Paddington. > I believe she was the wife of William Saltmarsh, coachman/male > servant, born, but not baptized in Leicester, Leicestershire, > who turns up on the 1851 and 1861 Censuses at Theydon Garnon, Essex.  > Have exhausted searching for this couple in Essex. They > apparently had nine children born and baptized at St Giles, > Great Hallingbury, Essex between 1818 and 1835. Some of the > baptisms have Mary, others, Sarah, as the mother, and others > have Mary crossed out with Sarah overwritten. William is > sometimes a coachman, servant, labourer. He died 25 Sep 1867, > Bishops Stortford. > > My question is: What is the best way of researching marriages in > Sevenoaks, Kent for Mary (maiden name unknown) and William > Saltmarsh, around 1815 or so?  > > I see that there is a Northwest Kent Family History Society > which would include Sevenoaks, but it requires a membership fee > before any searching can be done.  > > Before committing further resources, any advice would be appreciated. > > Thank you! > > Carolyn

Hello from New Zealand.......... Happy Easter to all..... Can anyone possibly help here please ..... ?? Are there any further details on this couple ..... such as parents, witnesses etc. ?? MICHAEL EVELING = ELIZABETH DAVIS Marriage: 10 APR 1761 Gillingham, Kent, England Thank you for reading this enquiry ..... Kind regards from Maree S Gordon Matamata New Zealand [email protected] >/ SKYPE matamatamaree

The Kent Family History Society sells CDs of Parish registrations. Go to their website to see if they have anything for Sevenoaks. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2012 8:52:43 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] Mary Saltmarsh - Sevenoaks Kent Greetings from Canada. This is my first post to the Kent list. Mary Saltmarsh, widow, age 80, born Seven Oaks, Kent is in the 1871 Census at Woodside Green, Great Hallingbury, Essex. In the 1861 Census she is age 69, in Great Hallingbury, born "Kent, 7 Oaks" and is a "coachman's wife" living with granddaughter Jane Cordwell, age 16, born London, Paddington. I believe she was the wife of William Saltmarsh, coachman/male servant, born, but not baptized in Leicester, Leicestershire, who turns up on the 1851 and 1861 Censuses at Theydon Garnon, Essex.  Have exhausted searching for this couple in Essex. They apparently had nine children born and baptized at St Giles, Great Hallingbury, Essex between 1818 and 1835. Some of the baptisms have Mary, others, Sarah, as the mother, and others have Mary crossed out with Sarah overwritten. William is sometimes a coachman, servant, labourer. He died 25 Sep 1867, Bishops Stortford. My question is: What is the best way of researching marriages in Sevenoaks, Kent for Mary (maiden name unknown) and William Saltmarsh, around 1815 or so?  I see that there is a Northwest Kent Family History Society which would include Sevenoaks, but it requires a membership fee before any searching can be done.  Before committing further resources, any advice would be appreciated. Thank you! Carolyn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 07/04/2012 22:52:18 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: MICHAEL EVELING = ELIZABETH DAVIS Marriage: 10 APR 1761 Gillingham, Kent, England Information sent off list. Jennifer

Greetings from Canada. This is my first post to the Kent list. Mary Saltmarsh, widow, age 80, born Seven Oaks, Kent is in the 1871 Census at Woodside Green, Great Hallingbury, Essex. In the 1861 Census she is age 69, in Great Hallingbury, born "Kent, 7 Oaks" and is a "coachman's wife" living with granddaughter Jane Cordwell, age 16, born London, Paddington. I believe she was the wife of William Saltmarsh, coachman/male servant, born, but not baptized in Leicester, Leicestershire, who turns up on the 1851 and 1861 Censuses at Theydon Garnon, Essex.  Have exhausted searching for this couple in Essex. They apparently had nine children born and baptized at St Giles, Great Hallingbury, Essex between 1818 and 1835. Some of the baptisms have Mary, others, Sarah, as the mother, and others have Mary crossed out with Sarah overwritten. William is sometimes a coachman, servant, labourer. He died 25 Sep 1867, Bishops Stortford. My question is: What is the best way of researching marriages in Sevenoaks, Kent for Mary (maiden name unknown) and William Saltmarsh, around 1815 or so?  I see that there is a Northwest Kent Family History Society which would include Sevenoaks, but it requires a membership fee before any searching can be done.  Before committing further resources, any advice would be appreciated. Thank you! Carolyn

Me again, last batch of Grave photos....this time St Peter's in Bekesbourne. Names listed are:-   LAWRENCE X 4 GOLDUP BARTLETT WHALE BAKER DANGERFIELD HOPPER EDEN WEBB DAVIS WILSON WAR MEMORIAL CLIFFORD AUSTEN FRIEND POTTS BEKE BUSHELL X 4 MANN RUSSELL HIGGINS TALOR FORSTER PILCHER MAY HORM TAYLOR BOOTH   http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157629731885503/ Margate Local & Family History    

I believe we have a few Hammonds in common, Stuart :o) I'll have to check my FTM but will get back to you in a couple of days :o) Pat.xxx :o)) A Maid of Kent http://peajaykayspatch.blogspot.com/ Hi All, I have made huge changes and provided a good number of updates to the website at http://web.me.com/marcsherland/Family_Geneaology/Welcome.html The site is designed to give details of my family genealogy and focuses on the following trees : BAKER, BARDO, BENNETT, BIRCH, BURTON, CASTLE, CHAPMAN, CHEAL, COUCHMAN, CURLING, GULL, GRAY, HAMMOND, HENNEKER, HOAD, HODGES, HOWLAND, JACKSON, LADD, MANUEL, MARSH, MERCER, MILHAM, RHODES, ROBERTS, SISLEY, TOLHURST, TUCKNESS, VERRIER, WOOLLEY. Most of my trees have a Kent or Sussex origin, though BARDO came from Italy, VERRIER from Normandy, HOAD probably from Holland. The site also has pages with info on particular family histories including the HOAD Bros. Shipbuilders of Rye and BIRCH Steam Traction in Sellindge. There are also Kent History pages and other useful genealogical info. Please feel free to comment. Best regards D. Stuart Hammond ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2409/4919 - Release Date: 04/06/12

Hi All, I have made huge changes and provided a good number of updates to the website at  http://web.me.com/marcsherland/Family_Geneaology/Welcome.html The site is designed to give details of my family genealogy and focuses on the following trees : BAKER, BARDO, BENNETT, BIRCH, BURTON, CASTLE, CHAPMAN, CHEAL, COUCHMAN, CURLING, GULL, GRAY, HAMMOND, HENNEKER, HOAD, HODGES, HOWLAND, JACKSON, LADD, MANUEL, MARSH, MERCER, MILHAM, RHODES, ROBERTS, SISLEY, TOLHURST, TUCKNESS, VERRIER, WOOLLEY. Most of my trees have a Kent or Sussex origin, though BARDO came from Italy, VERRIER from Normandy, HOAD probably from Holland. The site also has pages with info on particular family histories including the HOAD Bros. Shipbuilders of Rye and BIRCH Steam Traction in Sellindge. There are also Kent History pages and other useful genealogical info. Please feel free to comment. Best regards D. Stuart Hammond

Hello Chris, Searching newspapers is well worth doing. I have a copy of a Coroner's Report given in 1802 plus a copy of a local newpaper report of the proceedings, which took place in Canterbury.. You will probably have to be a bit lucky to lay hands on originals, but much less so with press reports. Sid On 4 April 2012 21:25, Gene Genie <[email protected]> wrote: > Is it possible to search coroners records for the death in about July or > August 1834? > > I am researching the death by drowning of Joseph Longdon who was buried in > a paupers grave on 12th August 1834. Details from the Parish or poor law > union records Woolwich St. Mary Magdalene borough of Greenwich. > Alternatively would there be a newspaper report for this tragedy available? > >

Gene Genie wrote: > Is it possible to search coroners records for the death in about > July or August 1834? > > I am researching the death by drowning of Joseph Longdon who was > buried in a paupers grave on 12th August 1834. Details from the > Parish or poor law union records Woolwich St. Mary Magdalene > borough of Greenwich. Alternatively would there be a newspaper > report for this tragedy available? Hallo Newspapers would probably have something. I don't think there are any coroners records from that long ago. Connie in London

Hi listers Is it possible to search coroners records for the death in about July or August 1834? I am researching the death by drowning of Joseph Longdon who was buried in a paupers grave on 12th August 1834. Details from the Parish or poor law union records Woolwich St. Mary Magdalene borough of Greenwich. Alternatively would there be a newspaper report for this tragedy available? Any advice gratefully received. Many thanks in advance Chris Longdon Sent from my iPod Chris Longdon Top Brass Antiques Sent from my iPod

Dear Mary Ann Kitzel, If you search the censuses for 1851-1891 for the Margate area you will find deaf families and pupils at the Royal Margate School for the Deaf in and around Margate. Several were printers and are in my Kent book trade directory, 1750-1900. I have a pamphlet entitled Merry Margate and it is on that school; the pamphlet was printed in the 1890s. Doesn't give many names, though. Richard Goulden

Hello Listers, Thank you all so much for your assistance. I am very aware of the Tipp family¹s deafness. It¹s the reason I¹m studying them. I¹m studying early modern sign language in Kent and the first complete enumeration, as I¹m sure you already know, is the 1851 census. I already have the Tipps¹ school records. They were fair students. ;o) If you know of any early signing families in the Kent area , I¹d love to know more about them. Again, many thanks for your help. Regards, Mary Beth -- Mary E. Kitzel MSc, CI, CT DPhil Candidate/Associate Tutor Department of Geography Arts C329 University of Sussex Falmer Brighton BN1 9SJ [email protected] http://www.sussex.ac.uk/profiles/210129

Hi Bruce, My husband's direct line is Chantler mostly from Hawkhurst but some from Maidstone. Will check out Harriet and get back to you. Chantler/Chandler seemed to be interchangeable especially in census records. Cheers Dallas in Australia On 02/04/2012, at 9:54 PM, "Bruce E. Bailey" <[email protected]> wrote: > Just started looking into my wife's paternal great-grandfather;s family and > would like to know of anyone has information relating to a Harriett Chantler > born 1811 in Maidstone. > I believe her parents were Edward and Anne but cannot find a direct link to > Chantler, only Chandler. I know this could be a mis-interpretation but the > Edward Chandler & Ann I have found were married in Hawkhurst. > > Does anyone have any info on any Chantlers in Maidstone prior to 1810 > > Many thanks in advance for any help > > Best Wishes, > Bruce > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would be grateful for any info on the family of Susan (Susannah) Staniford who was born 1860 in Maidstone. (The 1901 Gillingham census has 1854). She married Alfred Smith about 1880 in Gillingham. She has a son, Alfred Staniford Smith b about 1880 in Gillingham. I cannot find her family on the 1871 census. Thanks. Bob Foran

Familysearch.com shows a Harriet CHANTLER marrying a Thomas WILKINS on 6 Jun 1836 in Maidstone. Possibly your girl? Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce E. Bailey Sent: 02 April 2012 12:54 To: [email protected] Subject: [KENT-ENG] CHANTLER Just started looking into my wife's paternal great-grandfather;s family and would like to know of anyone has information relating to a Harriett Chantler born 1811 in Maidstone. I believe her parents were Edward and Anne but cannot find a direct link to Chantler, only Chandler. I know this could be a mis-interpretation but the Edward Chandler & Ann I have found were married in Hawkhurst. Does anyone have any info on any Chantlers in Maidstone prior to 1810 Many thanks in advance for any help Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tipp and Corfmatt children and parents deaf and dumb? You could check the registers of the Deaf and Dumb School in East London for information on them. Just ask the British Deaf History Society, which has these registers and has a website. These registers contain very interesting information on deaf children educated there as well as on their parents. Richard Goulden