Dear Listers, I am researching the MILNS fmily of Tonbridge, especially the lineage of Henry George MILNS, baptised 20 Jan 1826, died 11 Jan 1856, son of Henry MILNS and Eliza BARTLETT. He was married to Ellen AUSTEN born circa 1829, Godalming, Surrey, died 18 Jan 1856, Tonbridge, daugther of Isaac AUSTEN and Mary Ann WALL. Henry was a silk mercer and linen draper and had premises on High Street, Tonbridge. Apparently Henry and Eliza died as a result of a fire. Henry died on 11 Jan 1856 and Eliza a week later. According to a death notice in the Sussex Advertiser of 29/1/1856, Elisa survived Henry by one week and died on the day he was buiried. I have not been able to trace any details of this tradgedy and am hoping some kind soul might have more information for me? Henry and Eliza's children were put in the care (guardianship?) of their grandparents and of the five children, two later immigrated to South Africa and two to Australia. I descend from the eldest boy, Arthur, who immigrated to South Africa. Regards Paul LE ROUX Paarl South Africa

Hi Angela Thanks for this tip I will try this ASAP Cheers Chris Longdon (Top Brass Antiques) Sent from my iPod On 19 Apr 2012, at 23:08, "Alan" <[email protected]> wrote: > Chris > Speak to your local library. If you have a library card, you can access the > Gale Library from home - this is the British Library Newspaper archive. > It's free to search this way. Obviously, not everything is included, you > may still need to access local newspapers too, but it's worth an ask. I've > found it useful to learn more about the history of the area as well as > genealogy. > Angela > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gene Genie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 6:01 PM > Subject: [KENT-ENG] Death by drowning 1834 > > >> Hi Listers >> >> Would SKS have access to Kent newspapers for around July or August 1834 to >> find any reference to my 3 x great grandfather, JOSEPH LONGDON, who died >> by drowning as per the following information >> >> Name: Joseph Longdon – ‘found drowned, Coroners report’ >> Record Type: Burial >> Estimated Death Date: abt 1834 >> Burial Date: 12 Aug 1834 >> Age: 35 >> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799 >> Parish or Poor Law Union: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene >> Borough: Greenwich >> Register Type: Parish Register >> >> Alternatively can I source this information myself online please as I live >> in Wiltshire and cannot readily visit Kent records/resources ? >> >> Any advice gratefully received. >> >> Regards >> >> Chris Longdon >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.929 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4946 - Release Date: 04/19/12 > 07:34:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chris Speak to your local library. If you have a library card, you can access the Gale Library from home - this is the British Library Newspaper archive. It's free to search this way. Obviously, not everything is included, you may still need to access local newspapers too, but it's worth an ask. I've found it useful to learn more about the history of the area as well as genealogy. Angela ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Genie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 6:01 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] Death by drowning 1834 > Hi Listers > > Would SKS have access to Kent newspapers for around July or August 1834 to > find any reference to my 3 x great grandfather, JOSEPH LONGDON, who died > by drowning as per the following information > > Name: Joseph Longdon – ‘found drowned, Coroners report’ > Record Type: Burial > Estimated Death Date: abt 1834 > Burial Date: 12 Aug 1834 > Age: 35 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799 > Parish or Poor Law Union: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene > Borough: Greenwich > Register Type: Parish Register > > Alternatively can I source this information myself online please as I live > in Wiltshire and cannot readily visit Kent records/resources ? > > Any advice gratefully received. > > Regards > > Chris Longdon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.929 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4946 - Release Date: 04/19/12 07:34:00

Hi Karen Many thanks for your quick reply! I will try the link you gave me. Thanks again Regards Chris Longdon (Top Brass Antiques) Sent from my iPod On 19 Apr 2012, at 18:56, "Karen Cook" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Chris > > Try this - http://newspapers11.bl.uk/blcs/ . A great site but you do have > to pay for access. HTH - good hunting! > > Regards, Karen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gene Genie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 6:01 PM > Subject: [KENT-ENG] Death by drowning 1834 > > >> Hi Listers >> >> Would SKS have access to Kent newspapers for around July or August 1834 to >> find any reference to my 3 x great grandfather, JOSEPH LONGDON, who died >> by drowning as per the following information >> >> Name: Joseph Longdon – ‘found drowned, Coroners report’ >> Record Type: Burial >> Estimated Death Date: abt 1834 >> Burial Date: 12 Aug 1834 >> Age: 35 >> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799 >> Parish or Poor Law Union: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene >> Borough: Greenwich >> Register Type: Parish Register >> >> Alternatively can I source this information myself online please as I live >> in Wiltshire and cannot readily visit Kent records/resources ? >> >> Any advice gratefully received. >> >> Regards >> >> Chris Longdon >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chris Try this - http://newspapers11.bl.uk/blcs/ . A great site but you do have to pay for access. HTH - good hunting! Regards, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Genie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 6:01 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] Death by drowning 1834 > Hi Listers > > Would SKS have access to Kent newspapers for around July or August 1834 to > find any reference to my 3 x great grandfather, JOSEPH LONGDON, who died > by drowning as per the following information > > Name: Joseph Longdon – ‘found drowned, Coroners report’ > Record Type: Burial > Estimated Death Date: abt 1834 > Burial Date: 12 Aug 1834 > Age: 35 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799 > Parish or Poor Law Union: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene > Borough: Greenwich > Register Type: Parish Register > > Alternatively can I source this information myself online please as I live > in Wiltshire and cannot readily visit Kent records/resources ? > > Any advice gratefully received. > > Regards > > Chris Longdon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers Would SKS have access to Kent newspapers for around July or August 1834 to find any reference to my 3 x great grandfather, JOSEPH LONGDON, who died by drowning as per the following information Name: Joseph Longdon – ‘found drowned, Coroners report’ Record Type: Burial Estimated Death Date: abt 1834 Burial Date: 12 Aug 1834 Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799 Parish or Poor Law Union: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene Borough: Greenwich Register Type: Parish Register Alternatively can I source this information myself online please as I live in Wiltshire and cannot readily visit Kent records/resources ? Any advice gratefully received. Regards Chris Longdon

Thank you, I have this, hence me wishing to find Deal parish records on CD, as will need further information before purchasing the certificate. Margate Local & Family History --- On Sun, 15/4/12, Caroline Bradford <[email protected]> wrote: From: Caroline Bradford <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] DEAL marriages 1924 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc: "Kent List" <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, 15 April, 2012, 21:11 Elsie E HORTON married Leslie A ROGERS Q4 1924 Eastry 2a 2628 >From GRO index via FreeBMD. Sent from my iPad On 15 Apr 2012, at 20:04, Suzannah Foad <[email protected]> wrote: > Where would be the best place to look for a marriage in Deal around 1924? > Rogers-Horton. > Do the KFHS have a CD covering Deal? > Many Thanks > Suzannah > > Margate Local & Family History > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Elsie E HORTON married Leslie A ROGERS Q4 1924 Eastry 2a 2628 >From GRO index via FreeBMD. Sent from my iPad On 15 Apr 2012, at 20:04, Suzannah Foad <[email protected]> wrote: > Where would be the best place to look for a marriage in Deal around 1924? > Rogers-Horton. > Do the KFHS have a CD covering Deal? > Many Thanks > Suzannah > > Margate Local & Family History > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Where would be the best place to look for a marriage in Deal around 1924? Rogers-Horton. Do the KFHS have a CD covering Deal? Many Thanks Suzannah Margate Local & Family History

Thanks for all your help Pam.. Mary Sydney -----Original Message----- From: Pam Hillier Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 1:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KENT-ENG] unsub Hi everyone Due to work commitments I have to unsub for a while, see you all when I have more time. Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia "A friend is one who walks in when others walk out" -Walter Winchell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone Due to work commitments I have to unsub for a while, see you all when I have more time. Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia "A friend is one who walks in when others walk out" -Walter Winchell

Hi John, Have been following this thread with interest....do you have Richard's parents names ? I am wondering if your Richard is brother of our Thomas Wells, born London 1798/99 to parents Thomas John Wells and Ann Boot. Regards Colleen Wells NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Peat" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:30 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Joseph William WELLS born 1912 > Richard Wells, of North Street, born about 1799, aged 37 was buried at St > Marylebone on 13 December 1836 > > Think that's probably your man. > > > Anne > On 10 Apr 2012, at 18:01, John Wells wrote: > >> Many thanks to Sue Slater and Ann Peat for helping me identify Joseph >> William Wells. With your clues I have been able to trace the family to >> the censuses of 1841 and 1851 in Marylebone, London. Ann Wells ,widow, >> "charwoman," born 1799-1806 at St. Marylebone, was listed as a widow with >> children Thomas W. born c. 1826, Richard E. born c.1831-2, Elizabeth born >> c.1833-4 and Sarah born c.1836-7. Finding the identity of the husband of >> Ann Wells is now the problem. I have been unable to find baptismal >> records at St. Marylebone that might give me clues to his name. Any >> ideas. I promise this will be my last question. Thank you for your >> wonderful help. I'm coming to Kent in June and I'm trying to help another >> "amateur" genealogist discover his heritage before my trip. We are trying >> to establish a common ancestor. >> >> Regards, >> John Wells >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Colleen, A friend in London e-mailed me last night with additional information. I have attached what I have. It seems that this Wells family was in the Marylebone area at least as early as the 1680s and probably before. Regards, John B. Wells III --- On Tue, 4/10/12, Colleen Wells <[email protected]> wrote: From: Colleen Wells <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Joseph William WELLS born 1912 To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2012, 5:52 PM Hi John, Have been following this thread with interest....do you have Richard's parents names ? I am wondering if your Richard is brother of our Thomas Wells, born London 1798/99 to parents Thomas John Wells and Ann Boot. Regards Colleen Wells NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Peat" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:30 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Joseph William WELLS born 1912 > Richard Wells, of North Street, born about 1799, aged 37 was buried at St > Marylebone on 13 December 1836 > > Think that's probably your man. > > > Anne > On 10 Apr 2012, at 18:01, John Wells wrote: > >> Many thanks to Sue Slater and Ann Peat for helping me identify Joseph >> William Wells. With your clues I have been able to trace the family to >> the censuses of 1841 and 1851 in Marylebone, London. Ann Wells ,widow, >> "charwoman," born 1799-1806 at St. Marylebone, was listed as a widow with >> children Thomas W. born c. 1826, Richard E. born c.1831-2, Elizabeth born >> c.1833-4 and Sarah born c.1836-7. Finding the identity of the husband of >> Ann Wells is now the problem. I have been unable to find baptismal >> records at St. Marylebone that might give me clues to his name. Any >> ideas. I promise this will be my last question. Thank you for your >> wonderful help. I'm coming to Kent in June and I'm trying to help another >> "amateur" genealogist discover his heritage before my trip. We are trying >> to establish a common ancestor. >> >> Regards, >> John Wells >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pam thanks for your help in the past year I am also having a rest for a while. Barry Millington (Canada) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Hillier" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:48 PM Subject: [KENT-ENG] unsub > Hi everyone > Due to work commitments I have to unsub for a while, see you all when I > have more time. > Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > "A friend is one who walks in when others walk out" > -Walter Winchell > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pam If you haven't unsubscribed yet . Address your quest to the following [email protected] On the Subject Line enter only the word - Unsubscribe In the Body of the Message - type only Unsubscribe. Cheers, Stella

Just a quick note to than Peter, Richard and David for their information on poor relief and schooling in Aldington in the early 1800s. Appreciate your time and your quick responses, and look forward to working through the website on the old poor law that I had missed. Thank you. Lynne

Richard Wells, of North Street, born about 1799, aged 37 was buried at St Marylebone on 13 December 1836 Think that's probably your man. Anne On 10 Apr 2012, at 18:01, John Wells wrote: > Many thanks to Sue Slater and Ann Peat for helping me identify Joseph William Wells. With your clues I have been able to trace the family to the censuses of 1841 and 1851 in Marylebone, London. Ann Wells ,widow, "charwoman," born 1799-1806 at St. Marylebone, was listed as a widow with children Thomas W. born c. 1826, Richard E. born c.1831-2, Elizabeth born c.1833-4 and Sarah born c.1836-7. Finding the identity of the husband of Ann Wells is now the problem. I have been unable to find baptismal records at St. Marylebone that might give me clues to his name. Any ideas. I promise this will be my last question. Thank you for your wonderful help. I'm coming to Kent in June and I'm trying to help another "amateur" genealogist discover his heritage before my trip. We are trying to establish a common ancestor. > > Regards, > John Wells >

Dear Colleen, Thanks for your e-mail. Regrettably, I do not know the identities of Richard's parents. BTW, this is not my branch of the Wells family. My Wells family was from the vicinity of Ashford, Kent. I am doing this research for a friend who lives in Kent who happens to also be a Wells. Do you know where in London your ancestor lived? Regards, John B. Wells III Newnan, Georgia [email protected] --- On Tue, 4/10/12, Colleen Wells <[email protected]> wrote: From: Colleen Wells <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Joseph William WELLS born 1912 To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2012, 5:52 PM Hi John, Have been following this thread with interest....do you have Richard's parents names ? I am wondering if your Richard is brother of our Thomas Wells, born London 1798/99 to parents Thomas John Wells and Ann Boot. Regards Colleen Wells NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Peat" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:30 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Joseph William WELLS born 1912 > Richard Wells, of North Street, born about 1799, aged 37 was buried at St > Marylebone on 13 December 1836 > > Think that's probably your man. > > > Anne > On 10 Apr 2012, at 18:01, John Wells wrote: > >> Many thanks to Sue Slater and Ann Peat for helping me identify Joseph >> William Wells. With your clues I have been able to trace the family to >> the censuses of 1841 and 1851 in Marylebone, London. Ann Wells ,widow, >> "charwoman," born 1799-1806 at St. Marylebone, was listed as a widow with >> children Thomas W. born c. 1826, Richard E. born c.1831-2, Elizabeth born >> c.1833-4 and Sarah born c.1836-7. Finding the identity of the husband of >> Ann Wells is now the problem. I have been unable to find baptismal >> records at St. Marylebone that might give me clues to his name. Any >> ideas. I promise this will be my last question. Thank you for your >> wonderful help. I'm coming to Kent in June and I'm trying to help another >> "amateur" genealogist discover his heritage before my trip. We are trying >> to establish a common ancestor. >> >> Regards, >> John Wells >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, On July 2nd 1837, Thomas William, Richard James, Elizabeth Ann and Sarah, children of Richard and Ann Wells of 34 North Street were baptised at Marylebone Christ Church. They lived at 34 North Street. There is no occupation for Richard - it just says Father deceased' in the occupation box. Dates of birth given were 6 december 1825 for Thomas William, 29th Jan 1830 for Richard, 15 Feb 1832 for Elizabeth and 14 April 1836 for Sarah. Hope this is of some help. Anne On 10 Apr 2012, at 18:01, John Wells wrote: > Many thanks to Sue Slater and Ann Peat for helping me identify Joseph William Wells. With your clues I have been able to trace the family to the censuses of 1841 and 1851 in Marylebone, London. Ann Wells ,widow, "charwoman," born 1799-1806 at St. Marylebone, was listed as a widow with children Thomas W. born c. 1826, Richard E. born c.1831-2, Elizabeth born c.1833-4 and Sarah born c.1836-7. Finding the identity of the husband of Ann Wells is now the problem. I have been unable to find baptismal records at St. Marylebone that might give me clues to his name. Any ideas. I promise this will be my last question. Thank you for your wonderful help. I'm coming to Kent in June and I'm trying to help another "amateur" genealogist discover his heritage before my trip. We are trying to establish a common ancestor. > > Regards, > John Wells > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

should have read " but I know a number of the records were lost" Philip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Maddocks" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] BMD for British Army abroad > Our earliest is 1849 from Indi abut I know that a number of the records; > probably elsewhere too. > > Philip Maddocks > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:41 AM > Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] BMD for British Army abroad > > >> In a message dated 10/04/2012 01:15:19 GMT Daylight Time, >> [email protected] >> writes: >> >> Specifically, my cousin has spent fruitless years trying to find the >> birth of one Christina Devine in Gibraltar, daughter of Robert Devine >> and Mary Stewart. >> >> >> >> I see from a number of trees on Ancestry that she was born c 1846/7. >> There >> is no birth recorded in the Armed Forces registers, it is quite possible >> that the birth was not registered, it was still the early days of civil >> registration. You may be better looking for a baptism in then church >> records in >> Gibraltar. >> >> Regards, >> Jennifer >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >