http://www.canterbury-cathedral.org/history/archives.aspx Otherwise I would suggest emailing them. Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Phillips" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 9:28 AM Subject: [KENT-ENG] CANTERBURY CATHEDRAL ARCHIVES > Hi > > > Is there any indication when these will be available again? I tried the > website this morning which is 'down'. > > Thanks > > John > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Is there any indication when these will be available again? I tried the website this morning which is 'down'. Thanks John

In a message dated 04/07/2012 09:29:17 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Is there any indication when these will be available again According to my Kent FHS journal, the said Archives closed on the 31st. January for approximately seven months while work is done on the search room roof. Jennifer

Trying to find Samuel Simpson Debling on the 1841 Census. Birth place varies from Ramsgate to Canterbury. Born c.1826 he was married in Ramsgate in 1845. Occupation Fish Dealer, Hawker and Buyer. Thank you Margate Local & Family History

Thanks Tillie, I just found some of my Gowar family there, not new information, but confirming what I had - great. ________________________________ From: tillie holmes Sent: Tuesday, 3 July 2012, 1:35 Subject: [KENT-ENG] Ancestry website A friend sent me this website link. It's a nice collection of Kent ancestry resources. http://sites.google.com/site/freebritishancestry/home/kent Tillie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From The Times ( London, England ), Thursday, Oct. 10, 1844; pg. 7; Issue 18738.   DIED. On the 7th inst., aged 35, Charlotte, the beloved wife of Mr. Joseph SNELLING , of St. Mary Cray, and daughter of the late Mr. William CARNELL , of Hadlow, Kent.

A friend sent me this website link. It's a nice collection of Kent ancestry resources. http://sites.google.com/site/freebritishancestry/home/kent Tillie

Hi John, yes I think we have, our Thomas Wells was born London 1799, his parents were Thomas Wells b. 1770 Oxfordshire and Ann Boot b. 1774 Surrey, England, siblings were John Wells and Richard Wells, but still to be confirmed. Regards Colleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wells" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Ancestors Have we shared info before about the Wells family? Sorry for my terrible memory. I just returned from Kent with new information regarding the Wells family of Charing, Boughton Aluph and Willesborough. John B. Wells Newnan, Georgia [email protected] --- On Sun, 7/1/12, Colleen Wells <[email protected]> wrote: From: Colleen Wells <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Ancestors To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 8:50 PM Admin said to stop this thread, so better do so.....but just wish to add I do own our family pics as my Mum is still living (90) and she gave them to me, have been in our family for over 100 years and I am very excited to share them with others, but not until I have finished all my research and know it is correct and that was what I was trying to do, suppose it is my own fault as not really up on the techs of family research sites. Thank you Admin and to those who offered opinions. Colleen NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Venita Roylance" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Ancestors > Since I am not the only descendant of my ancestors, I don't feel I can > claim my research as being mine and mine only, ergo under my personal > copyright. I simply copied the data found on records created by someone > else into my genealogy management program. Neither did I take the photos > of my ancestors with my camera, so they aren't "mine" either. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I see that Kent has got into your blood John!! hope you and your wife enjoyed yourselves. Phyllis (BARTLETT Godmersham} ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wells" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Ancestors Have we shared info before about the Wells family? Sorry for my terrible memory. I just returned from Kent with new information regarding the Wells family of Charing, Boughton Aluph and Willesborough. John B. Wells Newnan, Georgia [email protected] --- On Sun, 7/1/12, Colleen Wells <[email protected]> wrote: From: Colleen Wells <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Ancestors To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 8:50 PM Admin said to stop this thread, so better do so.....but just wish to add I do own our family pics as my Mum is still living (90) and she gave them to me, have been in our family for over 100 years and I am very excited to share them with others, but not until I have finished all my research and know it is correct and that was what I was trying to do, suppose it is my own fault as not really up on the techs of family research sites. Thank you Admin and to those who offered opinions. Colleen NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Venita Roylance" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Ancestors > Since I am not the only descendant of my ancestors, I don't feel I can > claim my research as being mine and mine only, ergo under my personal > copyright. I simply copied the data found on records created by someone > else into my genealogy management program. Neither did I take the photos > of my ancestors with my camera, so they aren't "mine" either. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5105 - Release Date: 07/01/12

Admin said to stop this thread, so better do so.....but just wish to add I do own our family pics as my Mum is still living (90) and she gave them to me, have been in our family for over 100 years and I am very excited to share them with others, but not until I have finished all my research and know it is correct and that was what I was trying to do, suppose it is my own fault as not really up on the techs of family research sites. Thank you Admin and to those who offered opinions. Colleen NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Venita Roylance" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Ancestors > Since I am not the only descendant of my ancestors, I don't feel I can > claim my research as being mine and mine only, ergo under my personal > copyright. I simply copied the data found on records created by someone > else into my genealogy management program. Neither did I take the photos > of my ancestors with my camera, so they aren't "mine" either.

Hi list, I am not happy with Ancestry because I commenced my Gordon (Middlesex/Kent) family tree on a site called MUNDIA including rare family photos and when I went back to add more data my password would not work, so I sent Mundia 4 emails and had no reply. I then sent an email to Ancestry and they said they could not find my site, my Gordon's, my password or any record that I had placed anything on Mundia, so I let it go. Then I subscribed to Ancestry to commence my tree and found ALL MY GORDON FAMILY AND PRECIOUS PHOTOS ON ANCESTRY !!!, so there you go, I am so cranky and wonder what I can do about this ? I have asked for access to Mundia to remove it, but I am just ignored and I can't get into the Gordon site on Ancestry as it is not connected to my current password. Colleen NSW

Well said Susan. I too have my own website and have never shared my family tree with Ancestry. I´ve received lots of messages saying that I´m missing out on finding cousins; but what has not been appreciated it that I´ve been tracing my family for over 40 years and have found most of my cousins by doing my own research and backing it up with valid sources, the most remotest of which is a 7th cousin - our common ancestor died in 1733. Those that use Ancestry´s trees can probably lay claim to be descended from illustrious ancestors with no substantiated evidence. The only information I´ve found on Ancestry´s member´s trees has been totally incorrect; so not very useful! Regards, Diane > Susan Young wrote: >> I maintain my own family data on my own websites which are free to >> anyone to use and thereby have kept for myself the ability to hit >> Ancestry for copyright infringement (which I have done successfully >> for myself and several friends) when my material turns up on their >> website.

Hi Colleen, I´m not surprised. I did write to the list about the ethics of Ancestry/Mundia (Ancestry own Mudia) but my message was rejected by the list owner. Don´t know what you can do about it but my rejected message warned about the fact that these people have the right to use anything you upload to their sites. Regards, Diane On 1 July 2012 23:33, Colleen Wells <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi list, > > I am not happy with Ancestry because I commenced my Gordon (Middlesex/Kent) family tree on a site called MUNDIA including rare family photos and when I went back to add more data my password would not work, so I sent Mundia 4 emails and had no reply. I then sent an email to Ancestry and they said they could not find my site, my Gordon's, my password or any record that I had placed anything on Mundia, so I let it go. Then I subscribed to Ancestry to commence my tree and found ALL MY GORDON FAMILY AND PRECIOUS PHOTOS ON ANCESTRY !!!, so there you go, I am so cranky and wonder what I can do about this ? > > I have asked for access to Mundia to remove it, but I am just ignored and I can't get into the Gordon site on Ancestry as it is not connected to my current password. > > Colleen > NSW > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, Please move on from the discussion about the merits/demerits of Ancestry.com. the thread is now closed. Best regards D. Stuart Hammond Kent List Administrator

I agree it is annoying when people take information and do not give in return, which is why I mostly just have the bare bones of my tree on ancestry.   That way hopefully someone will contact me asking where and how I found the information and let me know how it connects to them.   That way I have new "cousins" which is great.   However, what I would ask is how do you actuallyKNOW that these people have copied from you, is it not possible for them to have come to the same conclusions by completely separate research, after all, if you can find the information, so can they.      Susan Young wrote: > I maintain my own family data on my own websites which are free to > anyone to use and thereby have kept for myself the ability to hit > Ancestry for copyright infringement (which I have done successfully > for myself and several friends) when my material turns up on their > website. > Susan D. Young > Chief Executive, Ancestry Solutions ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have we shared info before about the Wells family? Sorry for my terrible memory. I just returned from Kent with new information regarding the Wells family of Charing, Boughton Aluph and Willesborough. John B. Wells Newnan, Georgia [email protected] --- On Sun, 7/1/12, Colleen Wells <[email protected]> wrote: From: Colleen Wells <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Ancestors To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 8:50 PM Admin said to stop this thread, so better do so.....but just wish to add I do own our family pics as my Mum is still living (90) and she gave them to me, have been in our family for over 100 years and I am very excited to share them with others, but not until I have finished all my research and know it is correct and that was what I was trying to do, suppose it is my own fault as not really up on the techs of family research sites. Thank you Admin and to those who offered opinions. Colleen NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Venita Roylance" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] Ancestors > Since I am not the only descendant of my ancestors, I don't feel I can > claim my research as being mine and mine only, ergo under my personal > copyright.  I simply copied the data found on records created by someone > else into my genealogy management program.  Neither did I take the photos > of my ancestors with my camera, so they aren't "mine" either. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Connie, One does not have to "sue" Ancestry in court. Ancestry has a procedure outlined on their corporate pages of how to go about filing a copyright infringement case with them, free for all to follow and use. Just a little ingenuity and determination are all that is needed to complete their paperwork and make your case. Sincerely, Susan D. Young Chief Executive, Ancestry Solutions www.ancestrysolutions.com County Administrator, Kent OPC Project www.kent-opc.org

Susan Young wrote: > I maintain my own family data on my own websites which are free to > anyone to use and thereby have kept for myself the ability to hit > Ancestry for copyright infringement (which I have done successfully > for myself and several friends) when my material turns up on their > website. > Susan D. Young > Chief Executive, Ancestry Solutions Hallo The use by others of research I have done is why there is very little of my family tree on line. I would not be able to sue Ancestry or any other site for copyright. I do not have the financial resources. It is an advantage you have as the Chief Executive of a company. Connie in London

Hello, To A. Clarke, particularly, who asks: "However, what I would ask is how do you actuallyKNOW that these people have copied from you..." The mistake those who had copied from my website and from those of several friends was that the Ancestry poster had carried over all of my notes verbatim and included the "listing data" as a source. No mistake, my name and in my friends' cases, their names, were all over every page of the posted trees. Sincerely, Susan D. Young Chief Executive, Ancestry Solutions www.ancestrysolutions.com County Administrator, Kent OPC Project www.kent-opc.org

Since I am not the only descendant of my ancestors, I don't feel I can claim my research as being mine and mine only, ergo under my personal copyright. I simply copied the data found on records created by someone else into my genealogy management program. Neither did I take the photos of my ancestors with my camera, so they aren't "mine" either. Yes, I did a lot of work compiling and organizing the data, but I also borrowed from others who had already done research for the same people. Family History Research is a world of sharing common family/ancestral data. I appreciate finding data about my lines on a public website. (Of course, I never add it to my database without first confirming its accuracy.) And I publish my own research so others can benefit from my work, and I hope no one adds it to their data without confirming its accuracy. I am regularly contacted by distant relatives, whom I have never met before, regarding what I have posted. Many times they have found something useful in my data, and many times they have further data to share with me, or an alternative opinion to share with me. That helps us all get the most complete, most accurate data about our ancestral families into our files. Just my humble opinion. Venita Family History and Other Fascinations venitap.com On Jul 1, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Connie wrote: > Susan Young wrote: >> I maintain my own family data on my own websites which are free to >> anyone to use and thereby have kept for myself the ability to hit >> Ancestry for copyright infringement (which I have done successfully >> for myself and several friends) when my material turns up on their >> website. > >> Susan D. Young >> Chief Executive, Ancestry Solutions > > Hallo > > The use by others of research I have done is why there is very little > of my family tree on line. > > I would not be able to sue Ancestry or any other site for copyright. > I do not have the financial resources. It is an advantage you have as > the Chief Executive of a company. > > Connie in London > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message