Dear Trish Elizabeth Newman/Francis Newman/Anne Newman Thank you so much for your help and for typing out all the details from Family Search. I stupidly thought that if she didn't come up on Ancestry she wouldn't come up anywhere! I was wrong! Brilliant help! Now my Newman brick wall is well and truly down! Much appreciated Best wishes Frances Lee On 10 August 2013 01:12, symonds3 <psym8950@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hi Frances, > > This is one possibility for you to look into further, found on the 1881 > Census at www.familysearch.org - > > Address: 23 Richmond Place, Plumstead, Kent > Household: > Mary Ann NEWMAN, widow, 55, b.Clerkenwell-Msx > Francis NEWMAN, son, 35, b.Clerkenwell-Msx > Elizabeth NEWMAN, daughter, 27, b.Clerkenwell-Msx (1854), single, > housekeeper (domestic) > James NEWMAN, son, 23, b.Plumstead-Kent > Philip NEWMAN, son, 15, b.Plumstead-Kent > Annie NEWMAN, daughter, 12, b.Plumstead-Kent > Lottie MITCHELL, grandson, 14, b.Plumstead-Kent > Henry NEWMAN, grandson, 9, b.Woolwich-Kent > (RG11 753/9 12) > > Cheers > Trish > Nowra NSW > > > > > Can anyone help me find out more about Elizabeth Newman who was the > second > > wife of my great grandfather John Glanville Bogg married at St. Nicholas > > Church, Plumstead, Kent on 2nd December 1882. Her father is stated as > > Francis Newman Watchmaker and one of the witnesses is Anne Newman. > Presume > > that is her sister or maybe her mother. > > Frances Lee > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- --- Regards Frances Lee

Dear Stella Thank you so much for your help with my Newman tree! Brilliant! I looked on this site and found her not only on the 1881 census with her family but also the 1871 and 1861! Now why didn't this come up on Ancestry?? Another brick wall knocked down! Much appreciated! Best wishes Frances Lee On 10 August 2013 01:39, Stella Stanger <sstanger@sfu.ca> wrote: > > Hi, Have you searched 1881 Census at Family Search Org Online > https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1321821 > > > > > At 04:25 PM 09/08/2013, you wrote: > >Dear Listers > > > >Can anyone help me find out more about Elizabeth Newman who was the second > >wife of my great grandfather John Glanville Bogg married at St. Nicholas > >Church, Plumstead, Kent on 2nd December 1882. Her father is stated as > >Francis Newman Watchmaker and one of the witnesses is Anne Newman. Presume > >that is her sister or maybe her mother. > > > >Elizabeth died only three years later as Elizabeth Bogg aged just 32 in > >Plumstead in 1885 which makes her born in 1853 but I can't find her on the > >censuses before her marriage. I don't know where she was born! Some > people > >have put her on their tree as being born in Dover but the censuses they > >show say her father was Thomas! > > > >John's first wife Mary McCarthy died of T.B. Elizabeth too died of T.B. I > >suspect that Elizabeth was working as a housekeeper for the family whilst > >Mary was dying. Can anyone find her on the 1881 census living near John > >Bogg? He was living at 24 Richmond Street, Plumstead East and is listed as > >Arsenal Labourer aged 36 widower living with his three sons John, Daniel > >and Edmund. > > > >Poor John lost his first wife and three of his children from his first > >marriage, then his second wife and their son in 1885. Then his third wife > >(my great grandmother) did survive him and so did his six children from > his > >third marriage but the poor man drowned himself by jumping into the river > >Thames from the Free Woolwich Ferry because he was in terrible pain from > >bowel cancer! What a difficult life! > >-- > >--- > >Regards > > > >Frances Lee > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- --- Regards Frances Lee

Hi All I have today updated my page at http://www.fadedgenes.co.uk/JohnDilnotDescendants.html to show the link from the DILNOT family to the two SWINERD casualties listed on the war memorial at Mersham. (See person #387) All the best Dave Dixon BA (hons) - Economic & Social History - University of Kent - Canterbury 1997 www.fadedgenes.co.uk

Hello Arthur, Please reply to yakharris@btinernet.com as living people should not be discussed on KENT ENGLAND Yvonne -----Original Message----- From: arthur Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:26 AM To: KENT-ENG@rootsweb.com Subject: [KENT-ENG] Pamela E Norman and Derek M Norman Dartford Hi all Any info' regarding Pamela E Norman b 1943 and her brother Derek M Norman b 1948 both in Dartford would be appreciated Thanks Arthur in Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pat, Many thanks for your reply to my question. I will try and obtain a copy of Ray Westlake's book, Thanks again for your assistance, Peter, Melbourne, Australia ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 22:23:59 +0100 From: "DPDorgan" <dpdorgan@newtelsurf.com> Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] KENT VOLUNTEER RIFLES To: <kent-eng@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAOHJZRiW89E6s06q1MHfq58KAAAAQ AAAAdTa25B4nK0me2W7LZ2j6WgEAAAAA@newtelsurf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Peter Ray Westlake wrote a book first published 1982 entitled "The Rifle Volunteers". ISBN 0 902633 79 1. The book is purely on the formation of volunteer corps and although there are some b&w photographs of volunteers and their insignia; there are none of the Kent volunteers. The earliest photograph is 1876. Basically volunteers were the equivalent of a 'home guard', the Duke of Wellington probably being responsible for the formation of the Volunteer Force in 1859. Men were recruited locally and it isn't thought that volunteer forces served overseas. Mr Westlake includes information on the Kent Volunteer Rifles and uses the 5 corps of 1880 as a basis, listing a number of corps under each heading giving their formation and disbandment dates and places. There are 5 pages of information. It really depends on where your distant 3rd cousin lived and even his occupation as to where he served and which corps i.e. "76th Corps: Formed on 26 March 1860 26 March 1860 by men working in the wharves, stores, distilleries and saw-mills of Port Dundas." "72nd Corps: This corps was also known as the 'Fine Arts' and was raised by jewellers, silversmiths and watch and clockmakers. Formed 23 February 1860." Kind regards, Pat -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Ryan Sent: 09 August 2013 15:11 To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com Subject: [KENT-ENG] KENT VOLUNTEER RIFLES Hi All, I was wondering what information readers had on Kent Volunteer Rifles and coloured photos of their uniforms. Did they ever see service overseas? Or were they home guard? A distant 3rd cousin was a member for about 20 years (c1850s-1870s) Thanks for any information or web site details, Peter, Melbourne, Australia

Hi Stuart, If you Google - Shorncliffe Camp - there is much information which may be able to help Daryl from Oz -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Hammond Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 6:36 PM To: kent-eng-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [KENT-ENG] Kent List - Life changing Visits, Holidays or excursions our ancestors took Hi All, I note that it has been strangely quiet on the Kent List, so to promote a few postings, I am going to suggest that you might post about a visit, holiday or excursion which an ancestor made, which in some way changed the course of the family history. To start this off : My grandmother, Elizabeth HODGES (born 9th March 1894 Sellindge, Hythe, Kent), went into domestic service in Surrey in 1911 and at sometime around 1918/19 met a young soldier Edward James PUNCHARD (born about 1889 from Norfolk), who at that time was a Corporal in the Machine Gun Corps based at Shorncliffe. They married on 13th January 1920 at Elham Registry Office and when he was posted to India, Elizabeth went with him, along with their son James born on 17th November 1920.  Initially things went well and Edward was promoted to become a Farrier Sergeant stationed in Meerut, India but unfortunately whilst there, the relationship between Elizabeth and Edward broke down, perhaps through his drinking, and she left him. Shortly afterwards in 1922, he died possibly at his own hand. Elizabeth stayed on in India for a short time, returning to England, where she met and married at the Wesleyan Methodist Church on 5th April 1926, my granddad, Henry Sisley BIRCH (born 29th April 1897) who at that time lived at Gibbons Brook, Sellindge. Many years later my grandmother wrote a moving account of her time in India, though never discussed the death of her first husband. Had she not gone to India, I would never have been born, since my mother Kathleen Ruth BIRCH was born from the second marriage on 12th January 1927 at Grange Cottage, Sellindge, Kent. So my questions that arise out of this are : Can anyone tell me anything about Shorncliffe Camp? What was it like to be in India in the 1920s? In the 1911 census my grandmother was working as a general servant in a girls school Drumgowan, Alexandra School, Surrey. This seems quite a distance from the family who were based in  2 Oak Cottage, Sellindge, Kent. Can anyone suggest why? All the best D. Stuart Hammond Kent List Administrator ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John Wells wrote: > I know I've asked this before, but I received so many excellent answers that I'm having a problem making a decision. I have written a comprehensive and documented genealogy of my Wells family. The family lived in Kent, primarily in Boughton Aluph, Godmersham and Willesborough. I have one book to donate so which repository will be best. Thanks for your help. Hallo I'd say probably be the LDS over the Society of Genealogists because the LDS could digitise it and make it available online whilst keeping the original in storage until the end of time. Perhaps you could ask for it to be digitised? I know the Kent Archives would be a favourite but that would mean anyone interested would have to travel there to see it. The Society of Genealogists has the same limitation. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

What site is that Jeanne, I've never heard of it Phyllis ----- Original Message ----- From: "J POTTER" <j.potter1@btopenworld.com> To: <kent-eng@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] LDS website Have you tried OPC site? Jeanne ________________________________ From: Phyllis <p.bartlett8@iinet.net.au> To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 10 August 2013, 2:13 Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] LDS website Anne What a find, thank you so much for the time you and other listers have taken on my behalf for my request, it is much appreciated, especially as this ancestor came from Wiltshire :=), but never mind his daughter married a James BARTLETT a man of Kent. My first request re: LDS has brought up two of "my wanted to find" {1} when James married, I knew he married a Maria BURTON, but not when, Peter gave me this {thanks Peter} {2} Where was James born, I had began to think I was looking for him in the wrong place, I have a friend over in England (from Aussie} at the present, searching for her ancestors in Tisbury, and she cannot find any BLANCHARDS living/dead in that area. But you have solved that. I have all the info I need at the moment on Maria and James children, but where I'd like to go is who were James' parents, and where was he christened, the latter so I can see if I can get the Parish Church Records. I am NOT expecting Listers to help me here, but, if anyone has any ideas where I can go from here, I'd appreciate it. Again, thanks to you Anne and all the Listers, who have come to my aid. Phyllis ex Londoner of A Man Of Kent Father ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Peat" <anne@peat.me.uk> To: <kent-eng@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] LDS website > Strange. > on https://familysearch.org/search > I did a search using James Blanchard, 1795 - 1800 Wiltshire and this came > up > > James Blantchard, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975" > Name: James Blantchard > Gender: Male > Christening Date: 31 Jan 1796 > Christening Place: Tisbury, Wiltshire, England > > Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C15914-1 > System Origin: England-VR > GS Film number: 1279432 > Reference ID: 2:35P8BGB > > Anne > On 9 Aug 2013, at 05:17, Phyllis wrote: > >> Hello Peter >> >> Actually that is exactly what I did, the ancestor who I'm looking for is >> a >> gt gt grandfather on my Maternal side, he is James BLANDCHARD who maried >> Maria BURTON in Tisbury Wiltshire. On pthe 1841 census it gives >> James >> as householder aged 45 with wife Maria aged 40, then children Emmanuel >> Elizabeth Sarah my gt grandmother Mary John and James. >> >> It appears my gt gt Grandfather was born about 1796 so I went into LDS >> website, pressed on "search" and entered name country as England U.K and >> birth, NOTHING it came up No Record, so I entered Tisbury Wilts England >> U.K the same No Record. I then entered James BLANCHARD birth/any London, >> England U.K. Because with my researching I KNOW that there are a lot of >> BLANCHARDS in London, the same thing came up. >> >> So I'll try the site you give which has a 'g' after search, does this >> extra >> letter mean anything. >> >> Phyllis >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know I've asked this before, but I received so many excellent answers that I'm having a problem making a decision. I have written a comprehensive and documented genealogy of my Wells family. The family lived in Kent, primarily in Boughton Aluph, Godmersham and Willesborough. I have one book to donate so which repository will be best. Thanks for your help.   Regards, John B. Wells "Way Down South In Dixie"

Anne What a find, thank you so much for the time you and other listers have taken on my behalf for my request, it is much appreciated, especially as this ancestor came from Wiltshire :=), but never mind his daughter married a James BARTLETT a man of Kent. My first request re: LDS has brought up two of "my wanted to find" {1} when James married, I knew he married a Maria BURTON, but not when, Peter gave me this {thanks Peter} {2} Where was James born, I had began to think I was looking for him in the wrong place, I have a friend over in England (from Aussie} at the present, searching for her ancestors in Tisbury, and she cannot find any BLANCHARDS living/dead in that area. But you have solved that. I have all the info I need at the moment on Maria and James children, but where I'd like to go is who were James' parents, and where was he christened, the latter so I can see if I can get the Parish Church Records. I am NOT expecting Listers to help me here, but, if anyone has any ideas where I can go from here, I'd appreciate it. Again, thanks to you Anne and all the Listers, who have come to my aid. Phyllis ex Londoner of A Man Of Kent Father ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Peat" <anne@peat.me.uk> To: <kent-eng@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] LDS website > Strange. > on https://familysearch.org/search > I did a search using James Blanchard, 1795 - 1800 Wiltshire and this came > up > > James Blantchard, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975" > Name: James Blantchard > Gender: Male > Christening Date: 31 Jan 1796 > Christening Place: Tisbury, Wiltshire, England > > Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C15914-1 > System Origin: England-VR > GS Film number: 1279432 > Reference ID: 2:35P8BGB > > Anne > On 9 Aug 2013, at 05:17, Phyllis wrote: > >> Hello Peter >> >> Actually that is exactly what I did, the ancestor who I'm looking for is >> a >> gt gt grandfather on my Maternal side, he is James BLANDCHARD who maried >> Maria BURTON in Tisbury Wiltshire. On pthe 1841 census it gives >> James >> as householder aged 45 with wife Maria aged 40, then children Emmanuel >> Elizabeth Sarah my gt grandmother Mary John and James. >> >> It appears my gt gt Grandfather was born about 1796 so I went into LDS >> website, pressed on "search" and entered name country as England U.K and >> birth, NOTHING it came up No Record, so I entered Tisbury Wilts England >> U.K the same No Record. I then entered James BLANCHARD birth/any London, >> England U.K. Because with my researching I KNOW that there are a lot of >> BLANCHARDS in London, the same thing came up. >> >> So I'll try the site you give which has a 'g' after search, does this >> extra >> letter mean anything. >> >> Phyllis >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Frances, This is one possibility for you to look into further, found on the 1881 Census at www.familysearch.org - Address: 23 Richmond Place, Plumstead, Kent Household: Mary Ann NEWMAN, widow, 55, b.Clerkenwell-Msx Francis NEWMAN, son, 35, b.Clerkenwell-Msx Elizabeth NEWMAN, daughter, 27, b.Clerkenwell-Msx (1854), single, housekeeper (domestic) James NEWMAN, son, 23, b.Plumstead-Kent Philip NEWMAN, son, 15, b.Plumstead-Kent Annie NEWMAN, daughter, 12, b.Plumstead-Kent Lottie MITCHELL, grandson, 14, b.Plumstead-Kent Henry NEWMAN, grandson, 9, b.Woolwich-Kent (RG11 753/9 12) Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > > Can anyone help me find out more about Elizabeth Newman who was the second > wife of my great grandfather John Glanville Bogg married at St. Nicholas > Church, Plumstead, Kent on 2nd December 1882. Her father is stated as > Francis Newman Watchmaker and one of the witnesses is Anne Newman. Presume > that is her sister or maybe her mother. > Frances Lee

Phyllis wrote: > What site is that Jeanne, I've never heard of it Not Jeanne but I can give you the address of the Kent Online Parish Clerk site: www.kent-opc.org/ It has a range of information about various Kent parishes where there is an OPC. I've found it useful. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

Have you tried OPC site? Jeanne ________________________________ From: Phyllis <p.bartlett8@iinet.net.au> To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 10 August 2013, 2:13 Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] LDS website Anne What a find, thank you so much for the time you and other listers have taken on my behalf for my request, it is much appreciated, especially as this ancestor came from Wiltshire :=), but never mind his daughter married a James BARTLETT a man of Kent. My first request re: LDS has brought up two of  "my wanted to find" {1} when James married, I knew he married a Maria BURTON, but not when, Peter gave me this {thanks Peter} {2} Where was James born, I had began to think I was looking for him in the wrong place,  I have a friend over in England (from Aussie} at the present, searching for her ancestors in Tisbury, and she cannot find any BLANCHARDS living/dead in that area. But you have solved that. I have all the info I need at the moment on Maria and James children, but where I'd like to go is who were James' parents, and where was he christened, the latter so I can see if I can get the Parish Church Records. I am NOT expecting Listers to help me here, but, if anyone has any ideas where I can go from here, I'd appreciate it. Again, thanks to you Anne and all the Listers, who have come to my aid. Phyllis ex Londoner of A Man Of  Kent Father ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Peat" <anne@peat.me.uk> To: <kent-eng@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] LDS website > Strange. > on https://familysearch.org/search > I did a search using James Blanchard, 1795 - 1800 Wiltshire and this came > up > > James Blantchard, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975" > Name: James Blantchard > Gender: Male > Christening Date: 31 Jan 1796 > Christening Place: Tisbury, Wiltshire, England > > Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C15914-1 > System Origin: England-VR > GS Film number: 1279432 > Reference ID: 2:35P8BGB > > Anne > On 9 Aug 2013, at 05:17, Phyllis wrote: > >> Hello Peter >> >> Actually that is exactly what I did, the ancestor who I'm looking for is >> a >> gt gt grandfather on my Maternal side, he is James BLANDCHARD who maried >> Maria BURTON  in Tisbury Wiltshire.    On pthe 1841 census it gives >> James >> as householder  aged 45 with wife Maria aged 40, then children  Emmanuel >> Elizabeth    Sarah    my gt grandmother Mary    John  and  James. >> >> It appears my gt gt Grandfather was born about 1796  so I went into LDS >> website, pressed on "search"  and entered name country as England U.K and >> birth,  NOTHING it came up No Record, so I entered Tisbury Wilts England >> U.K the same No Record. I then entered James BLANCHARD birth/any London, >> England U.K. Because with my researching I KNOW that there are a lot of >> BLANCHARDS in London, the same thing came up. >> >> So I'll try the site you give which has a 'g' after search, does this >> extra >> letter mean anything. >> >> Phyllis >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers Can anyone help me find out more about Elizabeth Newman who was the second wife of my great grandfather John Glanville Bogg married at St. Nicholas Church, Plumstead, Kent on 2nd December 1882. Her father is stated as Francis Newman Watchmaker and one of the witnesses is Anne Newman. Presume that is her sister or maybe her mother. Elizabeth died only three years later as Elizabeth Bogg aged just 32 in Plumstead in 1885 which makes her born in 1853 but I can't find her on the censuses before her marriage. I don't know where she was born! Some people have put her on their tree as being born in Dover but the censuses they show say her father was Thomas! John's first wife Mary McCarthy died of T.B. Elizabeth too died of T.B. I suspect that Elizabeth was working as a housekeeper for the family whilst Mary was dying. Can anyone find her on the 1881 census living near John Bogg? He was living at 24 Richmond Street, Plumstead East and is listed as Arsenal Labourer aged 36 widower living with his three sons John, Daniel and Edmund. Poor John lost his first wife and three of his children from his first marriage, then his second wife and their son in 1885. Then his third wife (my great grandmother) did survive him and so did his six children from his third marriage but the poor man drowned himself by jumping into the river Thames from the Free Woolwich Ferry because he was in terrible pain from bowel cancer! What a difficult life! -- --- Regards Frances Lee

Hi All, I was wondering what information readers had on Kent Volunteer Rifles and coloured photos of their uniforms. Did they ever see service overseas? Or were they home guard? A distant 3rd cousin was a member for about 20 years (c1850s-1870s) Thanks for any information or web site details, Peter, Melbourne, Australia

Hi Peter Ray Westlake wrote a book first published 1982 entitled "The Rifle Volunteers". ISBN 0 902633 79 1. The book is purely on the formation of volunteer corps and although there are some b&w photographs of volunteers and their insignia; there are none of the Kent volunteers. The earliest photograph is 1876. Basically volunteers were the equivalent of a 'home guard', the Duke of Wellington probably being responsible for the formation of the Volunteer Force in 1859. Men were recruited locally and it isn't thought that volunteer forces served overseas. Mr Westlake includes information on the Kent Volunteer Rifles and uses the 5 corps of 1880 as a basis, listing a number of corps under each heading giving their formation and disbandment dates and places. There are 5 pages of information. It really depends on where your distant 3rd cousin lived and even his occupation as to where he served and which corps i.e. "76th Corps: Formed on 26 March 1860 26 March 1860 by men working in the wharves, stores, distilleries and saw-mills of Port Dundas." "72nd Corps: This corps was also known as the 'Fine Arts' and was raised by jewellers, silversmiths and watch and clockmakers. Formed 23 February 1860." Kind regards, Pat -----Original Message----- From: kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kent-eng-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Ryan Sent: 09 August 2013 15:11 To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com Subject: [KENT-ENG] KENT VOLUNTEER RIFLES Hi All, I was wondering what information readers had on Kent Volunteer Rifles and coloured photos of their uniforms. Did they ever see service overseas? Or were they home guard? A distant 3rd cousin was a member for about 20 years (c1850s-1870s) Thanks for any information or web site details, Peter, Melbourne, Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks to Robert, Connie, Andy, Annie, Caroline, Peter and not forgetting the first person who answered my request Ruth, sorry Ruth about the mix up, I'm pleased you took it friendly. Peter I will answer your last message tomorrow, it is now my bedtime so time to shut down the computer, a lot of you will be just getting up. Phyllis from glorious S.E Queensland Australia

Hi Bob A couple of points: You won't find parents' names in an 1829 marriage register (in fact, you won't find mothers' names even now). If the marriage was by licence rather than bans AND if the bride (and/or groom) was under age, the licence allegation *should* say who gave consent, which would normally be the father but could be the mother (or an uncle or whatever) if the father was dead. I suggest hiring in the film of the register from your nearest LDS centre. "Sister in law" was a term used more loosely then than now, but it is probable that she was Phoebe's sister, as she appears to have been born a VENISON (she is unmarried in 1851). Best wishes Caroline Sent from my iPad On 9 Aug 2013, at 13:03, "robertgascoigne" <robertgascoigne@cox.net> wrote: > Hello List > > Could SKS tell me if the CD's from Plaxtol Local History Group give the > parent's of the bride and groom. The reason I ask is that I am seeking > someone who I can find no birth for. The information I have is the marriage > 25 Dec 1829 in Plaxtol Church, Phoebe Venison married George Knight , > M167161, this information is from the LDS site. Phoebe Knight is on the 1841 > census, she had a daughter Mary Anne in June 1841. Phoebe died in the Mar > 1/4 1844. On the 1851 census Living in the George Knight household is a > Sarah Venison aged 47, relationship ,Sister in Law . Sarah has a son Alfred > Venison with her aged 13. Looking for Sarah Venison in 1841 , I find Sarah > Venison aged 37 and Alfred Venison aged 3 in the Household of Thomas > Venison aged 81 also in the household is James Venison aged 47. I believe > Thomas Venison to be the Thomas Venison who Married Ann Crowhurst on the > 23rd July 1787 in Meopham, M135002. If anyone has another Thomas Venison in > this time Period please let me know. I have never found a birth for Sarah , > and as she was Sister in Law she would be a sister to Phoebe . James I can > find born to Thomas Venison and Ann > also Thomas and Ann had a daughter Phillis. I hope anyone who has a > different idea on this family will comment online so it can be discussed. > > Thank you in Advance > > Bob > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob Have you considered the idea that Phoebe might have been a widow when she married George Knight? Might be worth a check for an earlier marriage. Angela ----- Original Message ----- From: "robertgascoigne" <robertgascoigne@cox.net> To: <kent-eng@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] PLAXTOL > Hello List > > Could SKS tell me if the CD's from Plaxtol Local History Group give the > parent's of the bride and groom. The reason I ask is that I am seeking > someone who I can find no birth for. The information I have is the > marriage > 25 Dec 1829 in Plaxtol Church, Phoebe Venison married George Knight , > M167161, this information is from the LDS site. Phoebe Knight is on the > 1841 > census, she had a daughter Mary Anne in June 1841. Phoebe died in the Mar > 1/4 1844. On the 1851 census Living in the George Knight household is a > Sarah Venison aged 47, relationship ,Sister in Law . Sarah has a son > Alfred > Venison with her aged 13. Looking for Sarah Venison in 1841 , I find Sarah > Venison aged 37 and Alfred Venison aged 3 in the Household of Thomas > Venison aged 81 also in the household is James Venison aged 47. I believe > Thomas Venison to be the Thomas Venison who Married Ann Crowhurst on the > 23rd July 1787 in Meopham, M135002. If anyone has another Thomas Venison > in > this time Period please let me know. I have never found a birth for Sarah > , > and as she was Sister in Law she would be a sister to Phoebe . James I can > find born to Thomas Venison and Ann > also Thomas and Ann had a daughter Phillis. I hope anyone who has a > different idea on this family will comment online so it can be discussed. > > Thank you in Advance > > Bob > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.932 / Virus Database: 3209.1.1/6062 - Release Date: 08/08/13 20:49:00

The Medway Ark site,"Medway Ancestors" is in the Diocese of Rochester but is only concerned with the Deanery of Rochester not the other other part of the diocese. If you log on to "Medway Ancestors" you will find a list of ALL the parishes in the Rochester Deanery. Dennis Bramble. -----Original Message----- From: robertgascoigne Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 8:34 PM To: kent-eng@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KENT-ENG] PLAXTOL