Hello John Thanks for contacting me. I also can't remember the e-mail I sent, but I was trying to find a reference to a JOHN WARREN b.circ. 1792 or GEORGE WARREN b.1782 somewhere in North Devon. JOHN supposedly eloped with his mother's ladies maid (They must have been reasonably well-off) to Hawkehurst in Kent. GEORGE I think followed him sometime later. They were both wheelwrights and builders, so maybe there was a family business in Devon. The first sons always seem to have been named after the father in the family, so I'm probably looking for a GEORGE WARREN b.circ.1750-1760 in North Devon who was a wheelwright. I don't expect you can help, because he would have been dead by the time of the 1851 census, but maybe you may have one or two leads. Happy New Year Julian Cornwall(U.K.) -----Original Message----- From: John Stephens <john@stephens.force9.net> To: rwarren1@ix.netcom.com <rwarren1@ix.netcom.com>; julian.hill@virgin.net <julian.hill@virgin.net>; gordon@bootha.com <gordon@bootha.com> Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 5:53 PM Subject: Warren >Happy, wet Boxing Day Robert, Julian & Gordon > >When I was looking on an old AOL disc for an Australian's e-mail address, I >found some messages that I had sent you, in reply to yours to me. I do not >remember what you said to me though, but it was obviously about Warrens. > >It may interest you to know that I now have a CD ROM of the 1851 census of >Devon, Norfolk and Warwickshire from the Church of Latter Day Saints (for >£3.65 inc postage) which enables you to easily search for anybody. I was >amazed to find there were 2238 Warrens, almost exclusively in Devon. Having >got up a known family in Widecombe (my wife's gg grandfather), I just kept >clicking on "neighbour" until I had covered all of Widecombe and printed out >28 Warren families. (The place must have been infested with them!) Also, >be seeing familiar names, I found the original chap's Nosworthy >daughter-in-law to be, then 2 years old, and thus her parents with place of >birth and approx year of birth. I also found one of my wife's known >Wreyford gggg grandmothers, then an old widow, but got her place and approx >year of birth. (My wife isn't the slightest bit interested!) > >Also recently, I have found that there is a free WARREN genealogical >circulation group which I have joined. The people are mainly in the USA >(who went over on the Mayflower etc) but there are also English members. > >To join you send a message (automatic) to warren-l-request@rootsweb.com >(L in the middle, not 1). Do not put a title and only subscribe in the >text. There is not a lot of activity, so you do not get swamped. > >Regards > >John Stephens, Chiseldon, Swindon > >