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    1. [KEMP-DNA] KEMP-DNA mailing list
    2. Andrew Kemp
    3. Hello fellow KEMP-DNA researchers, As you may have heard by now, Ancestry have chosen to shutdown the RootsWeb mailing lists on the 2nd March 2020. While there has been minimal traffic to the KEMP-DNA mailing list recently since the major outage when Rootsweb servers failed and the attempts by Ancesty to upgrade the mailing list software, I believe there is still an interest in maintaining a mailing list for KEMP-DNA genealogy queries. Therefore, I have created a new KEMP mailing list on groups.io which is the consolidation of KEMP, KEMPE, KEMPF and KEMP-DNA mailing lists. It will serve as a central location for all KEMP and variant surname related genealogy and DNA queries world wide. Shortly, you will receive an invite to join the new mailing list on groups.io - I sincerely hope that you do so. Looking forward to seeing you on the new groups.io list at https://groups.io/g/kemp and continuing to discuss KEMP genealogy and DNA. Kind regards, Andrew -- Kemp/Kempe/Kempf/Kemps/Kempt/Camp/Campe Worldwide One-Name Genealogical Study GOONS Member #5729 ONS: https://www.kempfamilyhistory.com DNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Kemp/ Email: clan@kempfamilyhistory.com

    01/14/2020 06:29:28
    1. Re: [KEMP-DNA] Kemp DNA Project now on FamilyTreeDNA
    2. Andrew Kemp
    3. Hi fellow Kemp DNA researchers, Just to update you all. I have now consolidated the Kemp DNA project back onto FamilyTreeDNA. Please visit the project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Kemp/ where you can join, view results, order kits/upgrades etc. Also, a reminder that the Kemp one-name study can be found at: www.kempfamilyhistory.com Looking forward to working with all on your Kemp DNA and genealogy. Kind regards, Andrew On 26 June 2012 11:15, Andrew Kemp <kemp.andrew@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > I have now become the administrator of this mailing list and would like to > provide an update on the Kemp DNA project. > > As you may be aware, DNA Heritage (where the Kemp DNA project was > previously hosted) was acquired by Family Tree DNA in April 2011 (see > http://www.familytreedna.com/faq/answers/default.aspx?faqid=40#1559), > consequently the Kemp DNA project at DNA Heritage is now longer able to be > joined. > > I assumed administration of the Camp/Kemp DNA project at Family Tree DNA > in October 2011. > > > The Camp/Kemp DNA project on Family Tree DNA for ordering kits or upgrades > can be found here: > > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Camp > > > While the Project website for the Camp/Kemp DNA project can be found here: > > www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/camp/ > > which also displays Y-DNA results and pedigrees. > > In addition to the Kemp DNA project, I am also running a Kemp one-name > study under the auspices of the Guild of One Name Studies which I would > encourage you all to visit and/or contribute to. > > The Kemp ONS can be found at: > > www.kempfamilyhistory.com > > > Looking forward to working with all on your Kemp DNA and genealogy. > > Kind regards, > Andrew > > -- > *Kemp One-Name Genealogical Study* > ***Guild Member 5729* > ONS: http://www.kempfamilyhistory.com > DNA: http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/camp/ > Email: clan@kempfamilyhistory.com > > > -- Web: http://www.kempfamilyhistory.com Email: kemp.andrew@gmail.com

    12/13/2012 09:17:59
    1. [KEMP-DNA] Kemp DNA Project now on FamilyTreeDNA
    2. Andrew Kemp
    3. Hi All, I have now become the administrator of this mailing list and would like to provide an update on the Kemp DNA project. As you may be aware, DNA Heritage (where the Kemp DNA project was previously hosted) was acquired by Family Tree DNA in April 2011 (see http://www.familytreedna.com/faq/answers/default.aspx?faqid=40#1559), consequently the Kemp DNA project at DNA Heritage is now longer able to be joined. I assumed administration of the Camp/Kemp DNA project at Family Tree DNA in October 2011. The Camp/Kemp DNA project on Family Tree DNA for ordering kits or upgrades can be found here: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Camp While the Project website for the Camp/Kemp DNA project can be found here: www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/camp/ which also displays Y-DNA results and pedigrees. In addition to the Kemp DNA project, I am also running a Kemp one-name study under the auspices of the Guild of One Name Studies which I would encourage you all to visit and/or contribute to. The Kemp ONS can be found at: www.kempfamilyhistory.com Looking forward to working with all on your Kemp DNA and genealogy. Kind regards, Andrew -- *Kemp One-Name Genealogical Study* ***Guild Member 5729* ONS: http://www.kempfamilyhistory.com DNA: http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/camp/ Email: clan@kempfamilyhistory.com

    06/26/2012 05:15:42
    1. Kemps in SMGF Database
    2. Richard Cottrell
    3. To All: Here are some Kemps that are in the SMGF Database. The results were easy to extract for any Kemp. The first column labeled 'S' is the exact values given the participant by SMGF. The second column labeled 'D' is values for comparison with DNA Heritage results if any individual has tested with that company. The third column labeled 'F' is values for comparison with FTDNA results if any individual has tested with that company. In some cases no values were given. The 'Other' means the company doesn't test that marker. To verify the results go to: http://smgf.org/ysearch_input.jsp Click on the 'Do not convert (use SMGF standard)' Then put in the values from the 'S' colmun for the Kemp of interest. After you've enter results: Click on 'Sort by surname (then by genetic match)' and type Kemp in rectangular box. Click on 'Find Genetic Matches'. Kemp (USA) Kemp (ENG) Ancestor: John Kemp and Rachel B. Strickland John H. Kemp and Annie B. Hyer --------------------S------D------F DYS385a---------11-----11-----11 DYS385b---------14-----14-----14 DYS388----------12-----12-----12 DYS389i---------13-----13-----13 DYS389ii---------29-----29-----29 DYS390----------22-----22-----22 DYS391----------11-----11-----11 DYS392----------13-----13-----13 DYS393----------12-----12-----12 DYS394/19------15-----14-----14 DYS426----------12-----12-----12 DYS437----------15-----15-----15 DYS438----------12-----12-----12 DYS439----------11-----11-----11 DYS441----------13-----13-----Other DYS442----------13-----13-----13 DYS444----------12-----12-----Other DYS445----------12-----12-----Other DYS446----------13-----13-----Other DYS447----------24-----24-----24 DYS448----------22-----19-----19 DYS449----------29-----29-----29 DYS452---------- No Value Given DYS454----------11-----11-----11 DYS455----------11-----11-----11 DYS456----------17-----17-----17 DYS458----------17-----17-----17 DYS459a---------9-------9------9 DYS459b---------10-----10-----10 DYS460----------11-----11-----11 DYS461----------11-----11-----Other DYS462----------11-----11-----Other DYS463----------24-----22-----Other GGAAT1B07-----10-----10-----Other YCAIIa-----------19-----19-----19 YCAIIb-----------23-----23-----23 GATAA10--------13-----13-----Other GATAC4/635-----23-----23-----Other TAGAH4---------12-----12-----11 Kemp (USA) Ancestor: John Kemp and Annie B. Hyer --------------------S------D------F DYS385a---------11-----11-----11 DYS385b---------14-----14-----14 DYS388----------12-----12-----12 DYS389i---------13-----13-----13 DYS389ii---------29-----29-----29 DYS390----------22-----22-----22 DYS391----------11-----11-----11 DYS392----------13-----13-----13 DYS393----------12-----12-----12 DYS394/19------15-----14-----14 DYS426----------12-----12-----12 DYS437----------15-----15-----15 DYS438----------12-----12-----12 DYS439----------11-----11-----11 DYS441----------13-----13-----Other DYS442----------13-----13-----13 DYS444----------12-----12-----Other DYS445----------12-----12-----Other DYS446----------13-----13-----Other DYS447----------24-----24-----24 DYS448----------22-----19-----19 DYS449----------29-----29-----29 DYS452----------30-----11-----Other DYS454----------11-----11-----11 DYS455----------11-----11-----11 DYS456----------17-----17-----17 DYS458----------16-----16-----16 DYS459a---------9-------9------9 DYS459b---------10-----10-----10 DYS460----------11-----11-----11 DYS461----------11-----11-----Other DYS462----------11-----11-----Other DYS463----------24-----22-----Other GGAAT1B07-----10-----10-----Other YCAIIa-----------19-----19-----19 YCAIIb-----------23-----23-----23 GATAA10--------13-----13-----Other GATAC4/635-----23-----23-----Other TAGAH4---------12-----12-----11 Kemp (USA) Kemp (ENG) x5 Ancestry: Richard Kemp and Elizabeth Rogers Henry Kemp and Phoebe Bird Robert Kemp and Martha Button William B. Kemp and Elizabeth Bilham Willard W.J. Kemp and Adeline Carter Milo Kemp --------------------S------D------F DYS385a---------11-----11-----11 DYS385b---------14-----14-----14 DYS388----------12-----12-----12 DYS389i---------13-----13-----13 DYS389ii---------29-----29-----29 DYS390----------24-----24-----24 DYS391----------11-----11-----11 DYS392----------13-----13-----13 DYS393----------13-----13-----13 DYS394/19------15-----14-----14 DYS426----------12-----12-----12 DYS437----------15-----15-----15 DYS438----------12-----12-----12 DYS439----------12-----12-----12 DYS441----------13-----13-----Other DYS442----------12-----12-----12 DYS444----------12-----12-----Other DYS445----------12-----12-----Other DYS446----------No Value Given DYS447----------25-----25-----25 DYS448----------22-----19-----19 DYS449----------28-----28-----28 DYS452----------30-----11-----Other DYS454----------11-----11-----11 DYS455----------11-----11-----11 DYS456----------15-----15-----15 DYS458----------18-----18-----18 DYS459a---------9-------9------9 DYS459b---------10-----10-----10 DYS460----------11-----11-----11 DYS461----------11-----11-----Other DYS462----------11-----11-----Other DYS463----------23-----21-----Other GGAAT1B07-----No Value Given YCAIIa-----------19-----19-----19 YCAIIb-----------23-----23-----23 GATAA10--------11-----11-----Other GATAC4/635-----23-----23-----Other TAGAH4---------12-----12-----11 Kemp (USA) Kemp (ENG) Ancestry: James Kemp and Emma E. Papsworth Richard Kemp and Clara E. Malmstrom --------------------S------D------F DYS385a---------11-----11-----11 DYS385b---------14-----14-----14 DYS388----------12-----12-----12 DYS389i---------13-----13-----13 DYS389ii---------29-----29-----29 DYS390----------24-----24-----24 DYS391----------11-----11-----11 DYS392----------13-----13-----13 DYS393----------13-----13-----13 DYS394/19------15-----14-----14 DYS426----------12-----12-----12 DYS437----------15-----15-----15 DYS438----------12-----12-----12 DYS439----------12-----12-----12 DYS441----------13-----13-----Other DYS442----------12-----12-----12 DYS444----------12-----12-----Other DYS445----------No Value Given DYS446----------13-----13-----Other DYS447----------25-----25-----25 DYS448----------22-----19-----19 DYS449----------28-----28-----28 DYS452----------30-----11-----Other DYS454----------No Value Given DYS455----------11-----11-----11 DYS456----------No Value Given DYS458----------18-----18-----18 DYS459a---------No Value Given DYS459b---------No Value Given DYS460----------11-----11-----11 DYS461----------11-----11-----Other DYS462----------12-----12-----Other DYS463----------23-----21-----Other GGAAT1B07-----10-----10-----Other YCAIIa-----------19-----19-----19 YCAIIb-----------23-----23-----23 GATAA10--------11-----11-----Other GATAC4/635-----23-----23-----Other TAGAH4---------12-----12-----11 Richard

    11/14/2005 05:14:55
    1. Need someone interested being administrator of list
    2. Richard Cottrell
    3. To All: I need someone that would be interested in being administrator of the list. Got some personal things I have to do (not anything bad), and just won't have the time to manage the list. So please email off list if your interested. Thanks Richard

    05/24/2005 04:53:51
    1. Kemp DNA List now indexed on Rootsweb
    2. Richard Cottrell
    3. To All: The Kemp DNA Mailing List is now indexed on Rootsweb. http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/DNA/ Richard

    02/18/2005 06:12:45
    1. Re: (Correction) Analyzing results for participants in project
    2. Richard Cottrell
    3. To All: I goofed up on Group 2. It should be #3, #4 and #7. Sorry for the big goofup. Richard To All: Let's consider quite a few examples of different participants results and practice matching and placing them in a group. For the example I will simply label the participants 1,2,3,4,5,6, and 7. DYS #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7 19 14 14 15 15 14 14 15 385a 12 12 13 13 12 12 13 385b 14 14 15 15 14 15 14 388 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 389i 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 389ii 29 29 30 30 29 29 30 390 24 24 25 25 24 24 24 391 10 10 11 11 10 10 10 392 13 13 12 12 13 13 12 393 13 13 12 12 13 13 12 426 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 437 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 438 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 439 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 441 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 442 12 12 13 13 12 13 12 444 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 445 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 446 13 13 12 12 13 13 12 447 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 448 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 449 30 30 29 29 30 30 29 452 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 454 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 455 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 456 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 458 17 17 18 18 17 17 18 459a 10 10 9 9 10 10 9 459b 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 460 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 461 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 462 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 463 22 22 23 23 22 22 23 464a 15 15 16 16 15 15 16 464b 17 17 18 18 17 17 18 464c 17 17 18 18 18 17 18 464d 17 17 18 18 17 17 18 GATAA10 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 GATAC4/635 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 TAGAH4 11 11 12 12 11 11 12 GGAAT1B07 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 YCAIIa 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 YCAIIb 24 24 23 23 24 24 23 Looking at all the results, a person can see all the numbers are going to make one temporarily go crosseyed. But taking it slow and trying to stay focused one can figure out who is a match and who is not a match. The results show that: # 1 and 2 and #5 are a perfect match, then #6 is a 41 out of 43 marker match to #1, #2, and #5. Likewise, #3 and #4 are a perfect match, then #7 is a 40 out of 43 marker match to #3 and #4. So for Group 1 there is # 1, 2, 5, and 6. And for Group 2 there is # 3, 4, and 7. Also if you notice between the participants there are quite a few markers that are the same number. That is not unusual because no matter what lineage the individuals are from they all have one thing in common, they are all males and all human. So there will be some markers be the same because of that commonness. Looking at the results there is now a Group 1 and Group 2 and one can ask, is there any chance the two groups are related to each other? Well, comparing a particpant from each group (the perfect matches) it can be seen that Group 1 to Group 2 only match 24 out of 43 markers. Not close enough to be considered any type of relation. In comparing 43 marker test a good guideline to follow is anything above 39 markers would/could be related and anything below 39 markers would/could not be related. Richard

    02/17/2005 03:30:24
    1. Analyzing results for participants in project
    2. Richard Cottrell
    3. To All: Let's consider quite a few examples of different participants results and practice matching and placing them in a group. For the example I will simply label the participants 1,2,3,4,5,6, and 7. DYS #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7 19 14 14 15 15 14 14 15 385a 12 12 13 13 12 12 13 385b 14 14 15 15 14 15 14 388 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 389i 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 389ii 29 29 30 30 29 29 30 390 24 24 25 25 24 24 24 391 10 10 11 11 10 10 10 392 13 13 12 12 13 13 12 393 13 13 12 12 13 13 12 426 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 437 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 438 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 439 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 441 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 442 12 12 13 13 12 13 12 444 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 445 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 446 13 13 12 12 13 13 12 447 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 448 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 449 30 30 29 29 30 30 29 452 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 454 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 455 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 456 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 458 17 17 18 18 17 17 18 459a 10 10 9 9 10 10 9 459b 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 460 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 461 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 462 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 463 22 22 23 23 22 22 23 464a 15 15 16 16 15 15 16 464b 17 17 18 18 17 17 18 464c 17 17 18 18 18 17 18 464d 17 17 18 18 17 17 18 GATAA10 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 GATAC4/635 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 TAGAH4 11 11 12 12 11 11 12 GGAAT1B07 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 YCAIIa 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 YCAIIb 24 24 23 23 24 24 23 Looking at all the results, a person can see all the numbers are going to make one temporarily go crosseyed. But taking it slow and trying to stay focused one can figure out who is a match and who is not a match. The results show that: # 1 and 2 and #5 are a perfect match, then #6 is a 41 out of 43 marker match to #1, #2, and #5. Likewise, #2 and #3 are a perfect match, then #7 is a 40 out of 43 marker match to #2 and #3. So for Group 1 there is # 1, 2, 5, and 6. And for Group 2 there is # 2, 3, and 7. Also if you notice between the participants there are quite a few markers that are the same number. That is not unusual because no matter what lineage the individuals are from they all have one thing in common, they are all males and all human. So there will be some markers be the same because of that commonness. Looking at the results there is now a Group 1 and Group 2 and one can ask, is there any chance the two groups are related to each other? Well, comparing a particpant from each group (the perfect matches) it can be seen that Group 1 to Group 2 only match 24 out of 43 markers. Not close enough to be considered any type of relation. In comparing 43 marker test a good guideline to follow is anything above 39 markers would/could be related and anything below 39 markers would/could not be related. Richard

    02/17/2005 03:17:58
    1. Kemp Project Setup With DNA Heritage
    2. Richard Cottrell
    3. To All: The new Kemp Surname Y-DNA Project is now setup with DNA Heritage. Links to the company: http://www.dnaheritage.com Links to the basics of DNA testing: http://www.dnaheritage.com/tutorial1.asp http://www.dnaheritage.com/ydna.asp Link to join the Kemp Surname Y-DNA Project: http://www.dnaheritage.com/oracle/join.asp?GroupUnique=885953287 The default marker order is 43 markers however an individual can order whatever level of marker test can best be purchased by the person. Now a little bit about why I chose DNA Heritage for the company to use for the Kemp Surname Y-DNA Project: Their 43 marker test is the highest resolution set of markers available in genetic genealogy research. That amount of markers also gives two individuals sharing the same surname and matching,or not matching, the greatest reliability of indeed being related or not related. Here is typical 43 marker results (these are real results) for two individuals: DYS YYC1593 YLU9585 19 14 14 385a 12 12 385b 14 14 388 12 12 389i 13 13 389ii 29 29 390 24 24 391 10 10 392 13 13 393 13 13 426 12 12 437 15 15 438 12 12 439 13 13 441 13 13 442 12 12 444 12 12 445 12 12 446 13 13 447 25 25 448 19 19 449 30 30 452 11 11 454 11 11 456 15 15 458 17 17 459a 10 10 459b 10 10 460 10 10 461 12 12 462 11 11 463 22 22 464a 15 15 464b 17 17 464c 17 17 464d 17 17 GATAA10 13 13 GATAC4/635 23 23 TAGAH4 11 11 GGAAT1B07 10 10 YCAIIa 19 19 YCAIIb 24 24 Now looking at the above 43 marker results matching you can readily see there is a lot of markers and the two individuals match on each specific marker. Also since they match then they will be related, but how are they related. Are the two individuals brothers, or uncle and nephew, or father and son, or grandfather and grandson, or cousins, etc. Well you can not tell the relation just from the results. That is where the paperwork (documentation) part of genealogy is so invaluable. Paperwork genealogy defines and establishs the relation and the dna results confirm the relation. I will be explaining more in other posts. Richard

    02/16/2005 03:31:23
    1. Re: KEMP-DNA-D Digest V05 #1
    2. Robert I have connections to many Kemps worldwide. What does one have to do to provide a sampling for the DNA testing? Will there be a test provided soon for females of the Kemp lineage to participate in soon? How does this work? Who's DNA is tested against who's? Is there a possibility of testing one's DNA to any surviving DNA from say (For example: John Kemp (1380) Archbishop of Canterbury) ? I have a website setup on the Kempe/Kemp lineage (http://dugamer.tripod.com) and I would love to post a link to this listing if thats okay with you? I wanted to thank you for setting this listing up. Hopefull it will clear up many questions about various lines connected to each other or not! Patricia Kemp KEMP-DNA-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >KEMP-DNA-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 1 > >Today's Topics: > #1 New Kemp DNA Mailing List [Richard Cottrell <rjc@web-access.n] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from KEMP-DNA-D, send a message to > > KEMP-DNA-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To contact the KEMP-DNA-D list administrator, send mail to >KEMP-DNA-admin@rootsweb.com. > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > New Kemp DNA Mailing List > From: > Richard Cottrell <rjc@web-access.net> > Date: > Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:17:36 -0600 > To: > KEMP-DNA-L@rootsweb.com > > To: > KEMP-DNA-L@rootsweb.com > > >To All: > >I would like to thank you for subscribing to the new Kemp-DNA Mailing List. > >I'm not an expert by any means on DNA and probably there will be more >experienced individuals on the list or eventually join the list that know far >more than I. > >Currently I'm in the process of setting up a Kemp Y-DNA Project. I don't know >if the project will be a success or not be it is at least worth a try at >doing the DNA testing for the Kemp surname. > >I plan on using the company DNA Heritage because of the 43 marker test the >company offers for genealogy research using DNA. > >I can not participate in the Y-DNA project because the Kemp surname is not my >paternal lineage, however, I do have cousins that are paternal lineage Kemps >that I am contacting that will be able to participate in the Y-DNA project. > >The Kemp Y-DNA project will not be limited just to my cousins, rather it will >be open to any male carrying on the Kemp surname whether they be from the >USA, Canada, or England, actually any place. > >If any subscriber as any ideas or opinions then feel free to definitely give >any input on the postings. > >Hopefully with the DNA testing and the DNA list we will have additional >understandings of our ancestors. > >Richard > >

    02/15/2005 04:41:05
    1. New Kemp DNA Mailing List
    2. Richard Cottrell
    3. To All: I would like to thank you for subscribing to the new Kemp-DNA Mailing List. I'm not an expert by any means on DNA and probably there will be more experienced individuals on the list or eventually join the list that know far more than I. Currently I'm in the process of setting up a Kemp Y-DNA Project. I don't know if the project will be a success or not be it is at least worth a try at doing the DNA testing for the Kemp surname. I plan on using the company DNA Heritage because of the 43 marker test the company offers for genealogy research using DNA. I can not participate in the Y-DNA project because the Kemp surname is not my paternal lineage, however, I do have cousins that are paternal lineage Kemps that I am contacting that will be able to participate in the Y-DNA project. The Kemp Y-DNA project will not be limited just to my cousins, rather it will be open to any male carrying on the Kemp surname whether they be from the USA, Canada, or England, actually any place. If any subscriber as any ideas or opinions then feel free to definitely give any input on the postings. Hopefully with the DNA testing and the DNA list we will have additional understandings of our ancestors. Richard

    02/14/2005 04:17:36