On Wed, 27 May 1998 04:38:34 GMT, you wrote: >Hi: > >Wonder if someone out there knows the REAL story about which Patience >Kemp really married Samuel Saybury (if at all)on 11/09/1660 in >Weymouth, Mass. Hi: I'm the person that asked the question. I found this at the library today. Those of you carrying this lady in your databases may want to re-evaluate how you've got her placed. (Not that a 1903 article is the last word, but I found no other reference since to counter, but I was working with an index a couple years old.) NEHGR, Vol 57, 1903, Pg 416-7, Author - Henry A. Parker: "Partridge - Kemp - Thacher - Seabury. Elizabeth, daughter of the Rev. Ralph Partidge of Duxbury, was married first to William Kemp, who was of Duxbury, Jan 7, 1638/9; proposed freeman March 5, of the same year; and who died before Nov 2, 1641, when his widow Elizabeth was granted adminstration on his estate. By her first husband, William Kemp, she had Patience, her eldest daughter, who, November 16, 1660 (town record), was married to Samuel Seabury, physcian, of Duxbury. The widow Elizabeth (Partridge) Kemp was married May 11, 1643, (Thacher's Thacher Fam.) to his first wife and the mother of his children. See Plymouth Col. Rec., and, in particular, the grant of land to Samuel Seabury "son-in-law" of William Kemp; will of Rev. Ralph Partridge, (Register, Vol 47, Pg 279), compare diary of Rev. Peter Thacher (History of Milton, pg 279). A comparison of dates leaves no doubt of this family connection as stated." ______________ Note: I have seen web references to Patience being a daughter of Thomas Thatcher, then that daughter marrying William Kemp, Jr, having a Patience Kemp, and that daughter marrying Samuel Seabury. That connection is impossible and couldn't have happened, since Sam and Patience got married in 1660. I have seen references to a Patience (Thatcher) Kemp, structured as the child of Thatcher/Eliabeth above, but without showing the marriage of the daughter Patience to Samuel Seabury, attributed to "Mayflower Increasings, 1996 Edition". Whether the author of that 1996 book is merely repeating the error of previous works ignorant of the above article, or knew about the article, explored it, and formed a disagreement is I don't know. Norris -- Silver Bullet <[email protected]> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/ ---------------------------------------