This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZm.2ACIB/1331.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: About the Alexander Orr who had William T. Kemp, age 10, in his household in Maury Co., Tenn in 1850: In the 1880 census he says that both his father and mother were born in Ireland. Hundreds of the women named Sabina in the census indexes came from Ireland. Jane's middle name of Wilhelmina sounds German, but this particular Kemp family uses several unusual middle names for their children - a couple were "Stanislaus" and "Crysostom" - so we can't count on anything with them!