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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZm.2ACIB/1293.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the information but I don't think your Thomas Kemp is the one I've been looking for. It appears that Teresa (a poster on this board) has come up with the answer for me for which I am very grateful as I've been searching for several years.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EZm.2ACIB/1129.3 Message Board Post: I have finally found the information that I needed to determine that the Mary Alice Kampp that married Wilson Warren Bergman is indeed my great grandmother. Is there any way that I can get copies of her birth and/or death records from you? I am also wondering about a sister that Mary Alice had. They apparently had a falling out over a will and never spoke to one another again. It interests me that Mary Alice's birth record has her last name spelled as Kampp. I have her bible from the 1880's that has her handwritten name in it as Kempf. You can email me directly at jkwhiting05@msn.com This information would be greatly appreciated!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kemp Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZm.2ACIB/1293.1 Message Board Post: Hello, I am looking for information on a Thomas Kemp (born about 1813 in Stow Upland, Suffolk). He married a Charlotte (born about 1809 in Stow Upland,Suffolk). I know of three of thier children John , James , and Honour however, there were probably more. Could this be the same line you are researching? Crystal

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZm.2ACIB/1331.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I also thought that there would be little interest in the post but tried to e-mail you directly and it came back as undeliverable. Will try again.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kemp, Orr, Campbell, Lynch Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZm.2ACIB/1331.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry! From the information in your previous posts, I didn't realize that you already knew about an Irish connection for these families. I thought that you were questioning the fact that "your" Thomas could be from Ireland. I feel sure that both of our Thomas Kemps are one and the same. Thank you very much for all of the additional information on the Orr and Campbell families. I did find a Sabina Dismukes, age 45, b. TN, in the 1880 census - she is listed as being Single and is just a "visitor" at the home of a Doxy family, so this may not be the correct one. I have been unable to find her in 1870. I noticed that William T. Kemp says that he was born in Tennessee in all of his census records. You say in the above post that he was born in Kentucky. Please contact me at my e-mail address if you wouldn't mind furnishing me with more information, as I doubt that anyone else would be interested in any more details on these families. Thanks so much, Teresa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZm.2ACIB/1331.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: I must apologize - after posting my rather lengthy message, I realized that in some places I had used the wrong name for William Orr's wife - It should be Elizabeth, not Frances. Frances McElwain was Elizabeth's mother.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZm.2ACIB/1331.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Orr family: Frances McElwain, a widow whose husband died in Ireland, traveled with her numerous children (and servants) to America between the years of 1790 and 1800. They landed in Baltimore where Frances bought property but then fairly shortly, some of the sons traveled west to Kentucky where they decided to settle and apparently most of the family went to the Russellville, Kentucky area to live. Frances had 12 children - James, Joseph, Ann, Mary, Grasiah, Margaret, Lydia, Michael, Alexander, Frances, David(?) and Elizabeth, my direct ancestor. All of the children were born in Ireland - their mother, Frances, was English but married an Irishman. Elizabeth married William Orr in Montgomery County, Maryland (Prince George Parish) on December 17, 1801. William Orr and his brother, Hugh Orr, emigrated from Ireland to America - they very likely were on the same ship as the McElwain family. William and Frances went to Kentucky as well prior to 1807, with the McElwain family. The first child of Frances and William Orr was Alexander (and was the uncle that raised William Thompson Kemp). Alexander was born on August 8, 1805. The children of Frances and William were: 1.Alexander who married Loretta Ruth Hunter Kittrell on 8/14/1845. 2.James 3.Ann Marie, died in infancy 4.Ann 5.Eliza Ann (Elizabeth) died in cholera epidemic in 1833, married James B. Thompson (possibly where William Thompson Kemp got his middle name) 6.Frances (Fannie) died in Clarksville, Tennessee in 1845 - possibly of cholera. She married Thomas Kemp on 6/4/18388 at Russellville, KY. They had one son, William Thompson Kemp. 7.William 8.Joseph L. Orr Alexander Orr (1) was a cabinet maker and moved to Pulaski, Tennessee and then to Mt. Pleasant, Tennessee. He accumulated a good deal of property and was quite wealthy. An excerpt from the Columbia Daily Herald dated 2/14/1900 states that the Orr place in Mt. Pleasant sold for $188,500 to the Export Phosphate Company, the largest deed ever filed (at that time) in the Register's Office of Maury County. So, the census of 1880 was correct when stating that both the father (William Orr) and his mother (Frances McElwain Orr) of Alexander Orr were born in Ireland. In fact, William Orr's tombstone mentions County Cork. The McElwain family and the Orr family were quite well off financially. In answer to another question you raised concerning Jane W. Kemp Perry's sister, Sabina, it is very likely that Margaret Campbell Harris Kemp did not name her daughter before she died and her sister, Ann Campbell Lynch named her for her own mother in law - Sabina Lynch Bowman. Sabina Lynch Bowman was the sister of Thomas Lynch, the youngest signer of the Declaration of Independence. He and his wife had no issue and both were lost at sea, either going to France or returning. Having no natural heirs, his nephew, William Lynch Bowman, son of his sister, Sabina, was the heir with the stipulation that he change his name from William Lynch Bowman to William Bowman Lynch, which he did. He became a doctor in the Nashville area and was married to Margaret Campbell Harris Kemp's sister, Ann Campbell Lynch. Apparently Ann Campbell Bowman Lynch was in the Baltimore area and was a member of St. Peter's Episcopal Church as the church records show that Ann's son, Henry Campbell Lynch was ! baptized on February 17, 1830, the same day that Margaret married Thomas Kemp. Ann Lynch was a communicant at St. Peters on 3/7/1830 but was removed from the rolls in 1835, Thomas Kemp was a communicant on 4/11/1830 but removed from the rolls as well by 1835 (they had left with the two small girls and gone to Nashville, TN where Ann's husband had a medical practice.) An interesting note is that John Bowman, who died in 1807 (and was the father of John Bowman Lynch (who was previously John Lynch Bowman) put this in his will: "To my dear Jane Campbell, the lady who lived with me many years for whom I possess the highest esteem, I leave one thousand guineas, which I inform my executors to raise immediately in sale of such property as is most saleable for cash and to remit the same to the said Jane. I desire that every twelve months beginning with the day eighteen months after my decease that my executors regularly remit to the said Jane Campbell the sum of two hundred and fifty pounds sterling and in case at any time failing to do so, I desire that they forthwith sell for cash out of my estate to raise the sum of six thousand pounds sterling which sum is to be immediately placed in the public funds of England by Isaac Weld, Roger Stevenson and High (Hugh?) Johnston, Esqrs. Of London, as Trustees for said Jane Campbell that she may every year so long as she lives receive the interest. At her death the said six thousand pounds are to revert to my estate for the general purpose of my will." This is speculation but it is fairly certain that the Jane Campbell he mentions is most likely the mother (or grandmother?) of Margaret Campbell Harris Kemp and Ann Campbell Bowman Lynch. What connection there was, we don't really know. If she was simply a servant or retainer, that seems to be an inordinate amount of money to be given to her for her entire lifetime. However, it does seem to indicate that Margaret Campbell and Ann Campbell's mother (or grandmother) was from England. John Bowman was the son of the Lord Provost of Glasgow and came to America in 1769, married Sabina Lynch and owned indigo plantations among other property in the South. (Interesting note which may be accurate or may not be. The term "lynching" is supposed to have come from the practice of quick justice by a Judge Lynch (same family) who had a large oak tree on his plantation) I'm not completely sure about Sabina, the sister of Jane W., will have to dig into records to get that but I'm reasonably sure she married a doctor in the Nashville area by the name of Dismukes. Thomas Kemp is shown in the Logan county, KY records as marrying Frances Orr on June 4, 1838, they had one son, William Thompson Kemp, born April 2, 1840 in Russellville, KY. The census of Montgomery County, TN (Clarksville) shows Thomas Kemp living there on January 1, 1841. The census record of 1841 shows Frances Orr living with her husband, Thomas, two small girls (Jane W. and Sabina), along with the baby son, William Thompson Kemp. Frances died (date of death and cause of death unknown but possibly cholera) and the two girls were sent to live with their maternal aunt, Ann Campbell Bowman Lynch in Nashville, and after Ann's death, were in an Episcopal girls boarding school in Columbia, Tennessee. (I was born and raised in Columbia and though the school was no longer in use, it was a beautiful place and I remember it well as a child - it was called the Institute and was torn down somewhere in the 1960's or so. ) The son, William Thompson Kemp, went to live with his maternal uncle, Alexander Orr and his wife Loretta, in Mt. Pleasant, Tennessee. Columbia and Mt. Pleasant are only about 15 miles in distance from each other and I am sure that the half siblings got to see each other fairly frequently as later on, Jane W.'s son (my grandfather) traveled to Texas to see his half uncle, William Thompson Kemp, who had moved to Texas at about the age of 18 or so and remained in Texas the rest of his life, served the Confederacy in a Texas unit. Thomas Kemp, once he left Clarksville, TN (and his children) only surfaced once that we know of - and this came from some old Orr family correspondence. He and his son, William Thompson Kemp, met once in Galveston, we don't know when other than it had to be after William T. was grown and moved to Texas.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZm.2ACIB/1331.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: About the Alexander Orr who had William T. Kemp, age 10, in his household in Maury Co., Tenn in 1850: In the 1880 census he says that both his father and mother were born in Ireland. Hundreds of the women named Sabina in the census indexes came from Ireland. Jane's middle name of Wilhelmina sounds German, but this particular Kemp family uses several unusual middle names for their children - a couple were "Stanislaus" and "Crysostom" - so we can't count on anything with them!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kemp, Rush Classification: Marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EZm.2ACIB/1537 Message Board Post: "Sebastian Rush ....was the son of Levi Rush (born 1783), who came to Fayette County from Somerset County late in the eighteenth century. His mother was Mary Kemp, a native of New Jersey, but living in Henry Clay township when she married...." Biography of Sebastian Rush http://www.historicpa.net/bios/2s/sebastian-rush.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kemp, Frith, Dwyer, Dorsey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZm.2ACIB/1331.2.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I found another little hint that you might check out: On the 1880 census, Jane W. Kemp Perry says that her father was born in IRELAND - that's the first one that asked about parents' birthplaces. She also says on that census that her mother was born in England. Do you know where Margaret Campbell was born? I couldn't find Sabina Kemp after 1860, when she was age 22 and living with Wm. and Jane W. Perry. Who did she marry? Do you have a death date for her? The death date that I have for Thomas in California is Apr. 9, 1870. Do you think that your Thomas could have died that soon? Do you have any info to say whether he might have married again? There were some other records at St. Peter's Episcopal Church for Kemp families - these are all children of Richard Sampson Kemp, brother of "my" Thomas: Thomas, Oct 2, 1825 Anne Maria, Dec 2, 1827 Richard Simon, Nov 1, 1829 Mary Ann, Mar 4, 1832 Richard, Nov 2, 1834 The marriage of Thomas S. and Margaret Harris on Feb 17, 1830 is there, as are marriages for four other Kemps that I haven't yet identified - none known to be from my family. One of my Simon Kemp's daughters also married a physician from Tennessee, Wm. L. Henderson - they lived in Memphis. I can't seem to find it now, but I thought that I saw some information by you mentioning Gulfport, Louisiana. My great-aunt died in Gulfport in 1956 and my grandmother died in New Orleans in 1959. My mother said that they had a winter home in Gulfport and that everybody liked to go down to visit them at one time or another. They were permanent residents of Baltimore. Teresa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EZm.2ACIB/1536 Message Board Post: Any connections? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Descendant Register, Generation No. 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. William KEMP was born 1809 in Salford Manchester Lancashire, and died 1864 in Ashton Manchester. He married Mary M TRAYCEY 3 FEB 1836 in Cathedral Manchester. She was born 1807 in Ireland. Children of William KEMP and Mary M TRAYCEY are:+ 2 i. James KEMP was born 1842 in Manchester, Lancashire, and died JUN 1895 in West Derby Lancashire?. 3 ii. Emma KEMP was born 1865 in Manchester. 4 iii. Ann KEMP was born 1838 in Manchester Lancashire. + 5 iv. Margaret KEMP was born 1844 in Manchester Lancashire. + 6 v. William KEMP was born 1846 in Salford Manchester Lancashire, and died MAR 1900 in Lower Broughton Salford Manchester. 7 vi. Mary KEMP was born 1849 in Manchester Lancashire. 8 vii. Thomas KEMP was born 1850 in Salford Manchester. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Descendant Register, Generation No. 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. James KEMP (William KEMP1) was born 1842 in Manchester, Lancashire, and died JUN 1895 in West Derby Lancashire?. He married Elizabeth Ann WARD 21 JUL 1874 in Manchester, Lancashire, daughter of Edward WARD and Ann PAGE?. She was born 1853 in Leeds. He married Sarah Ann TAYLOR 30 NOV 1863 in Manchester, Lancashire, daughter of James TAYLOR. She was born 1845 in Manchester, Lancashire, and died JUN 1874 in Manchester. Children of James KEMP and Elizabeth Ann WARD are:+ 9 i. Louis KEMP was born 25 DEC 1881 in Manchester, Lancashire, and died 1 AUG 1945 in Manchester. + 10 ii. Alfred KEMP was born 21 MAY 1875 in Newton Heath, Lancashire, and died 15 FEB 1958 in Heywood, Manchester. 11 iii. John C KEMP was born 1877 in Newton Heath. 12 iv. Herbert KEMP was born 1880 in Newton Heath. 13 v. Earnest KEMP was born 1885 in Salford, Manchester. 14 vi. Noah KEMP was born 1887 in Salford, Manchester. 15 vii. Jonas KEMP was born 1889 in Salford, Manchester. 16 viii. Matthew KEMP was born 1894 in Prestwich, Manchester. 17 ix. Harold KEMP was born 1897 in Salford, Manchester. 18 x. Elizabeth Ann KEMP was born 1890 in Newton Heath. Children of James KEMP and Sarah Ann TAYLOR are: 19 i. Emma KEMP was born 1866 in Newton Heath, Manchester. 20 ii. Clara KEMP was born 1868 in Newton Heath, Manchester. 21 iii. Thomas KEMP was born 1871 in Newton Heath, Manchester, and died 1872 in Newton Heath , Manchester. 22 iv. James KEMP was born 1873 in Manchester, Lancashire. 5. Margaret KEMP (William KEMP1) was born 1844 in Manchester Lancashire. She married William Henry BROWN SEP 1869 in Manchester Lancashire. He was born 1844 in Thelwall Cheshire. Children of Margaret KEMP and William Henry BROWN are: 23 i. William BROWN was born 1872 in Failsworth Manchester. 24 ii. Alfred BROWN was born 1878 in Warrington Lancashire. 6. William KEMP (William KEMP1) was born 1846 in Salford Manchester Lancashire, and died MAR 1900 in Lower Broughton Salford Manchester. He married Elizabeth UNKNOWN 1874 in Salford Manchester Lancashire. She was born 1847 in Salford Manchester Lancashire. Children of William KEMP and Elizabeth UNKNOWN are: 25 i. Bertha KEMP was born 1876 in Broughton Salford Manchester. 26 ii. Elizabeth KEMP was born 1878 in Broughton Salford Manchester. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Descendant Register, Generation No. 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9. Louis KEMP (James KEMP2, William KEMP1) was born 25 DEC 1881 in Manchester, Lancashire, and died 1 AUG 1945 in Manchester. He married Bertha ROYLE 10 JUN 1908 in Manchester, Lancashire, daughter of James ROYLE and Mary Ann RIDGWAY. She was born DEC 1879 in Chorlton Lancashire, and died 1955 in Manchester. Children of Louis KEMP and Bertha ROYLE are:+ 27 i. Louis KEMP was born 25 APR 1909 in Failsworth, Prestwich, Manchester, and died 26 JUN 1970 in Ramsgate, Kent. + 28 ii. Norman KEMP was born 12 DEC 1916 in Manchester, Lancashire, and died 8 JUN 1996 in Canada. + 29 iii. Vera KEMP was born 4 JUN 1918 in Prestwich, Manchester, and died 25 JUL 2000 in Manchester, Lancashire. 10. Alfred KEMP (James KEMP2, William KEMP1) was born 21 MAY 1875 in Newton Heath, Lancashire, and died 15 FEB 1958 in Heywood, Manchester. He married Dora JACKMAN 1903 in Salford, daughter of William JACKMAN and Margaret WILSON. She was born 5 MAR 1890 in Cheetham Hill, Manchester, and died 17 FEB 1969 in Didsbury Manchester. Child of Alfred KEMP and Dora JACKMAN is:+ 30 i. Doreen Lily KEMP was born 11 MAR 1918 in Broughton Salford, Manchester, and died 26 AUG 1995 in Bolton Lancashire. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Descendant Register, Generation No. 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27. Louis KEMP (Louis KEMP3, James KEMP2, William KEMP1) was born 25 APR 1909 in Failsworth, Prestwich, Manchester, and died 26 JUN 1970 in Ramsgate, Kent. He married Winifred KNIGHT 17 OCT 1931 in Rusholme, Manchester, daughter of George KNIGHT and Ellen TAYLOR. She was born 5 FEB 1913 in Salford, Manchester,, and died 7 JUN 1987 in Cairo, Egypt. Children of Louis KEMP and Winifred KNIGHT are:+ 31 i. Norma Ann KEMP was born 15 NOV 1945 in Brentford, Middlesex, and died 6 MAY 1999 in Margate, Kent. + 32 ii. Living KEMP. 28. Norman KEMP (Louis KEMP3, James KEMP2, William KEMP1) was born 12 DEC 1916 in Manchester, Lancashire, and died 8 JUN 1996 in Canada. He married Audrey UNKNOWN. Children of Norman KEMP and Audrey UNKNOWN are:+ 33 i. Living KEMP. 34 ii. Living KEMP. 35 iii. Living KEMP. 36 iv. Living KEMP. 37 v. Living KEMP. 29. Vera KEMP (Louis KEMP3, James KEMP2, William KEMP1) was born 4 JUN 1918 in Prestwich, Manchester, and died 25 JUL 2000 in Manchester, Lancashire. She married George WARDLE. He was born ABT 1916 in Manchester. Children of Vera KEMP and George WARDLE are:+ 38 i. Living WARDLE. + 39 ii. Living WARDLE. 30. Doreen Lily KEMP (Alfred KEMP3, James KEMP2, William KEMP1) was born 11 MAR 1918 in Broughton Salford, Manchester, and died 26 AUG 1995 in Bolton Lancashire. She married Ralph HIGSON 22 APR 1944 in SMC Prestwich, Manchester, son of Ralph HIGSON and Ada HARVEY. He was born 8 JUN 1917 in Eccles, Manchester. Children of Doreen Lily KEMP and Ralph HIGSON are: 40 i. Living HIGSON. 41 ii. Living HIGSON. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Descendant Register, Generation No. 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31. Norma Ann KEMP (Louis KEMP4, Louis KEMP3, James KEMP2, William KEMP1) was born 15 NOV 1945 in Brentford, Middlesex, and died 6 MAY 1999 in Margate, Kent. She married Living FOAD, son of Harry FOAD and Patricia Hermione Mary FIELD. She married Living BARTIN, son of George BARTIN and Female UNKNOWN. She married Living LOCKYER, son of Walter Gilbert LOCKYER and Elsie Alice Florence HEDGES. Child of Norma Ann KEMP and Living FOAD is: 42 i. Living FOAD. She married Living CONACHY, son of Living CONACHY and Living MORLEY

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Hello Listers, I recently "trawled" through the 1841 census for Stockport Cheshire, HO107/113 film #0241245, HO107/114-115 film #0241246, looking for KEMP, BERRY, and SMITH. If any listers are interested in these names I will e-mail my results off list. Art in Florida --------------------------------- Yahoo! Personals Let fate take it's course directly to your email. See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZm.2ACIB/1331.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The 1827Baltimore Directory does have some Kemps. First is the Right Reverend James, bishop of the Protestant Episcopal Church in Maryland - the one who came to the Eastern Shore from Scotland as a pastor for a small church there, and eventually became an Episcopalian, then rose through the ranks to become the first Bishop of Baltimore. He died when a stagecoach bringing him back from a meeting in New York overturned and injured him so seveerly that he died. Next was John R. Kemp, who lived at the Black Horse inn. There is no John R. listed as family with the family of Jane Frith Kemp. Last is Mrs. Mary Kemp, who is probably no kin to the Kemps in Jane Frith Kemp's family. Next is Simon Kemp, who is listed as a brass founder, Richard Sampson (1794-1889), Simon (1799-1865), Thomas (1805-1870) and John Frith Kemp (1807-1870-80) were the only 4 sons living in Baltimore. In the 1829 Directory, there were 5 Kemps listed. There is Simon the brass founder still living in his home, and others who could not be kin to him: Mrs. A. (milk seller), E.D. (attorney at law), Isaac (no profession listed), and H. Kemp, laborer. There is a Mrs. Margaret Harris, tailoress, living in Tripolet's Alley. Thomas was listed in the 1830 Directory, which lists Thomas as a teacher. Thomas was on the 1830 census along with his wife and the two daughters born to them. In the 1837 City Directory pages, Simon has gone up in the world and is now Justice of the Peace.There is a Thomas Kemp, carpenter, listed, but no more identification. I don't think that is the Thomas who was a school teacher on the 1830 Directory. A Richard Kemp is there, a grocer, who first appeared on the 1830 Directory - he may be the older brother of Richard Samson. We may be on the right track to find Thomas Kemp - or not. But hopefully some of these names may help others out that are looking for a particular Kemp in Baltimore during that time period.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kemp, Frith, Dwyer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZm.2ACIB/1535 Message Board Post: Does anyone have this family in their records? William Kemp died 03 Mar 1813 in Ireland. Jane Frith was born abt. 1769 in Cork and died 31 Dec 1855 in Baltimore, MD. They were married 04 Jun 1793 at St. Peter’s Church (Church of Ireland), Cork city, County Cork, Ireland. Jane Frith Kemp came with her 4 remaining sons to Baltimore, MD in 1819. A researcher in Ireland suggested that her parents were probably Simon Frith and Elizabeth Bible. Diocese of Cork & Ross records show the marriage of Simon Frith and Elizabeth Bible in 1764. William and Jane’s children were all born in the city of Cork: 1. William B., b.07 Jul 1794; d.04 Aug 1817 in Ireland. 2. Robert Simon, b.03 Sep 1795; d.unknown date in Ireland. 3. Richard Sampson, b.07 May 1797; d.13 Oct 1889 in Baltimore, MD; married Grace Smith in Cork, 1818; children born in Baltimore, MD: William, b.abt. 1821; Thomas, b.Oct 1825; Anne Maria, b.Dec 1827; Richard Simon, b.Nov 1829; Mary Ann, b.Mar 1832, who married James Adams; Richard Sampson Jr., b.Nov 1834; Charles T., b.abt 1836. Richard was a school teacher at St. Peter’s Episcopal School. 4. SIMON, b.08 Aug 1799; d.Jul 1865 in Talbot Co., MD; married Ellen Agnes Dwyer 13 Sep 1823 in “Old St. Peter’s” Catholic church, Baltimore; children born Baltimore: Mary Ann, b.21 Nov 1824, d.31 Dec 1839; Jane Barbara, b.25 Nov 1826, d.unk, md John Edward Hooper 20 Oct 1847; William J., b.abt 1828; Richard Crysostom, b.abt 1831, d.Mar 1893, md Mary Jane Adams 20 Nov 1856; Simon Ignatius, b.29 Feb 1832, d.10 Feb 1914; md Maria Louisa Dorsey 16 Nov 1865; Ellen A., b.abt 1834; Ann E., b.abt 1836. 5. Eliza, b.Feb 1802, d.28 May 1802, Ireland 6. Jane Nassow(?), b.01 Jul 1803, d.17 Feb 1813, Ireland 7. Thomas, b.15 Apr 1805, d.09 Apr 1870, California. I have been unable to find any information on Thomas except that he was one of the 4 sons who came to MD with his mother and brothers in 1819. 8. John Frith, b.07 May 1807, d.bet. 1870-1880 Talbot Co., MD; md Margaret Pritchard 07 May 1873 in Baltimore, no children. He was a school teacher in Trappe, Talbot Co. MD. Names, birth dates and death dates of William and Jane’s children were taken from a sheet of paper with the letterhead of the company in Baltimore that one of William’s grandsons, Simon Ignatius, owned for many years. Names of grandchildren have been taken from census records or information from other family researchers. I also have the transcript of a letter that a gggrandson wrote in 1938. In it he says that his deceased father had once possessed family information which said that “William Kemp’s family were Loyalists during the American Revolution and that a Robert Kemp, on or about the year 1760, left the colonies and returned to Yorkshire, England, from whence this branch of the family originated, afterwards going to Cork, Ireland, where this William Kemp, my ancestor, married Jane Frith on June 4th, 1793.” According to the above referenced letter, our William Kemp was a Woolen Draper in Cork city. Cork city directories list: 1805: William Kemp, Woolen Draper, North Main St. 1809: “ “ “ “ South Main St. There was a William Kemp, son of William Kemp and Jane Martin, who was baptized in Rathcooney Parish of County Cork in 1757. LDS records (IGI) list their marriage as “abt. 1719” (38 yrs in between!). It has been suggested that this could be our William, but, if so, he would (probably) have already been born by the time the above mentioned Robert Kemp “left the colonies and returned to Yorkshire”. How likely is that? The fact that our William and Jane didn’t incorporate the name “Martin” into any of their children’s names also makes me wonder about this connection. I would appreciate any additional information on these family members. Thanks, Teresa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kemp, Frith, Dwyer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZm.2ACIB/1534 Message Board Post: There are two marriages for William Kemps in the Extracted Irish Records on Ancestry.com: 1. William Kemp married Gertrude Walton in 1781 in the Diocese of Cork & Ross, County Cork, Ireland. 2. William Kemp married Jane Frith in 1793 in the Diocese of Cork & Ross, County Cork, Ireland.* *Family information says that William and Jane were married on 04 Jun 1793 in St. Peter’s Church (Church of Ireland) in Cork city, County Cork by the Rev. Thomas Spead Campion. The first of their 7 children was born in 1794 in the city of Cork. William died in 1813 (we have no birth date or place for him) and Jane came to Baltimore, MD with her 4 remaining sons in 1819. Are these two William Kemps related? A will found in Irish records indicate that they probably aren’t the same person: it was proved in May 1796 for William Forster Kemp (Cork, Grocer). Heirs were his father, Forster Kemp; wife, Gertrude*; brother , Jeremiah; sister, Mary Warner and her husband, Arthur Warner. No children were listed as heirs. This would most likely be the William Kemp in the 1787 city directory. Marriage Records in Diocese of Cork and Ross: Forster Kemp md Elizabeth Forster in 1752 Forster Kemp md Sarah Parkinson in 1773 *William Kemp md Gertrude Warren in 1781 (another record lists her as Gertrude Walton) Jeremiah Kemp md Catherine Hawkes in 1796 1787 Cork city directory only lists one William Kemp: Grocer & Tea Dealer, South Main St. 1805 directory: William Kemp: Woolen Draper, North Main St. 1809 directory: William Kemp: Woolen Draper, South Main St. My William is believed to be the Woolen Draper. Does anyone have William and Gertrude in their family tree? What church were they married in? Teresa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZm.2ACIB/1331.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hey Teresa, I appreciate every bit of information I get and I'm not ruling it out that my Thomas may well have ended up in California as he seemed to get around quite a bit. Do you have any concrete information on a date of death or place of death in California? It would be a place to start researching.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZm.2ACIB/1331.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the info - I'm sure disappointed, as I figured that since your Thomas did so much gallavanting around, instead of staying in Baltimore as all of my Kemps did, it would be logical for him to die in California! I've been able to track down the other siblings of my Thomas over several census years, but he is just nowhere to be found.