If any of this looks familiar please write me! I need to do more research in courthouse records to find more details on the daughters of Elias and Dora. All I know to date: 1) My gggfather Elias Kemp (b 1834 Mar; Maryland [or England?]) married Dora Ingles (b 1839 May; Germany[Na]) on August 7, 1857 in Iron County, MO. I have no idea who his parents or siblings were. In two different census' he is listed as being born in Maryland and the other in England. They moved to Bonham, Fannin County, Texas between 1876--1880. Elias and Dora's children: ====================================== - - - - - - - - - 1880 Grayson County, TX Census Elias 46 b 1834; Maryland Dora w 40 b 1840; Germany M. E. d 22 b 1858; MO John C. s 20 b 1860; MO Jula E. d 18 b 1862; MO Mnna d 16 b 1864; MO Louis J. s 14 b 1866; MO Susan R. d 12 b 1868; MO Emmer J. d 10 b 1870; MO Dora Bell d 5 b 1875; MO David G. s 4 b 1876; MO (see below; Gilbert David) - - - - - - - - - 1900 Fannin County, TX Census Elias 70 b 1830 Mar; Maryland Dora w 61 b 1839 May; Germany NR Stephen s 19 b 1881 Feb; Texas Willie E. s 16 b 1884 Jan; Texas ====================================== 2) John C., b 1859 Sep; MO -- d ?; Possibly Denton County, TX -- Emmogene UNKNOWN (b 1864 Nov; TX) 3) Emmogene, b 1894 July; TX 3) Minnie, b 1896 June; TX 2) Louis J. KEMP, b 1866; MO -- d ?; Possibly Wise County, TX -- m Callie M. UNKNOWN (b 1873; TN) 3) Elias B., b 1891; TX -- d ?; Possibly Armstrong County, TX -- Bettye UNKNOWN (b 1891; TX) 4) Howard, b 1915; TX 4) Britton (m), b 1919; TX 3) Ellen, b 1892; TX 3) Ader C. (f), b 1894; TX 3) James R., b 1900; TX 3) Annie, b 1902; TX 3) Myrtle, b 1905; TX 3) Lena, b 1907; TX 2) Gilbert David KEMP, b 15 APR 1876; Pilot Knob, Iron Co., MO -- d 3 MAR 1920; Uvalde, Sabinal Co., TX -- m Idella Ledora FINCHER (b 1876; TX) 3) Blanche Martha KEMP (BAZZLAY), b 7 NOV 1897; Fannin Co., TX -- d 1978 3) Bertha Elizabeth KEMP (BOYDSTON), b 14 OCT 1899; Grayson Co., TX -- d 1990__ 3) Bonnie Fountain KEMP, b 8 OCT 1901; Grayson Co., TX -- d 1919 3) Obie Boyd KEMP, b 11 OCT 1904; Grayson Co., TX -- d 199__ 3) Ruby Lee KEMP (BOWLIN), b 24 MAY 1907; Cooke Co., TX -- LIVING 3) Daniel Elias KEMP, b 24 MAY 1910; Wise Co., TX -- d 1973 3) Joseph Edgar KEMP (my gf), b 26 MAR 1912; Wise Co., TX -- d 1977 3) Lily Mae KEMP (BURKE), b 11 AUG 1913; Wise Co., TX -- d 1945 3) David Bernice KEMP, 23 MAR 1915; Wise Co., TX -- d 1915 2) Steve KEMP, b 1881 Feb; TX -- d ?; Possibly Fannin County, TX -- m Merry UNKNOWN (b 1881; TX) 3) Alice Dora, b 1906; TX 3) Emma E., b 1910; , Fannin, TX 2) Willie E. KEMP, b 1884 Jan; TX -- d ?; Possibly Hunt County, TX -- m Rennie UNKNOWN (b 1886; TX) 3) Dora J., b 1905; TX 3) Cary E. (m), b 1907; TX 3) Thelma L., b 1909; TX 3) Norma, b 1914; TX 3) Willie M. (f), b 1919; TX Any help would be greatly APPRECIATED! Wade-- Perhaps your Millard and my Elias are brothers or cousins? Thanks, Caroline Price Fort Worth, Texas http://www.angelfire.com/tx/genecrazy ---------- > From: Wade Kemp <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Kemp's of Missouri > Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 7:55 AM > > Caroline, > I ran accross your message about Kemp's in MO. I am originally from > Missouri. My Dad was from Fredricktown. The farthest back I can go is to a > Millard Kemp ( my gggfather ) of Brunot. This is in the Madison/Iron County > area. > > To the best of my knowledge he only had 2 sons Delbert and Earcie. > > > Let me know if our family line intersect. > > Wade

Dear all, I will be in hospital starting tomorrow, Monday 8th., I expect to be in for about a week. I have decided not to unsubscribe as the squillion e-mails that will await my return will be something to occupy me until life gets back to normal. (I am also nosy and don't want to miss anything) Kindest regards, John Kemp Gloucester UK

Bob, HAVE you run upon the early KEMP family in Virginia? EDMUND KEMP who d. 1659 in Lancaster Co, Va; his son, MATTHEW KEMP b. 1650 Middlesex England d.1683 Lancaster Co, Va. and his son RICHARD KEMP of Essex Co. Va who married ELEANOR WILLIS, daughter of Thomas Willis and died in1714? His daughter RACHEL KEMP m. RICHARD GATEWOOD; their daughter CLARA GATEWOOD married JOSEPH BURNETT 1703/05-1771 of Southfarnum Parish, Essex Co. Va. Is this line connected with your KEMPS? Thanks for considering...you neve know, Caroline Burnett Cook (Carole) In a message dated 98-06-04 17:20:32 EDT, you write: << > Bob Young, Secretary > Kemp Family Association > > [email protected] Sorry, haven't come across any of these Kemps in my searches in Georgia. >>

[email protected] wrote: > > Subject: > > KEMP-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 37 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Kemp's in Maine [Robert Young <[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from KEMP-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Kemp's in Maine > Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 21:24:37 -0400 > From: Robert Young <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > I've been attempting to determine the origins of a fairly large Kemp > family in Harpswell, Cumberland County, Maine. > > Timothy Kemp is found in Harpswell, along with his wife, Hannah Snow, in > the mid-1790's. Estimated date of birth for Timothy would be about 1775. > > Further research has shown that a Silas Kemp was listed as being "driven > from Harpswell" by the British in July 1777. It is thought, but not > proven, that this Silas Kemp was born 11 Nov 1741 in Groton, Middlesex > County, Mass., the son of Hezekiah Kemp. > > Anyone having information on either Timothy or Silas Kemp, please let me > know. I'm always glad to share what I have. This is a major missing link > in my quest to document all Kemp's in New England before the 1790 > census. > > Bob Young, Secretary > Kemp Family Association > > [email protected] Sorry, haven't come across any of these Kemps in my searches in Georgia.

I've been attempting to determine the origins of a fairly large Kemp family in Harpswell, Cumberland County, Maine. Timothy Kemp is found in Harpswell, along with his wife, Hannah Snow, in the mid-1790's. Estimated date of birth for Timothy would be about 1775. Further research has shown that a Silas Kemp was listed as being "driven from Harpswell" by the British in July 1777. It is thought, but not proven, that this Silas Kemp was born 11 Nov 1741 in Groton, Middlesex County, Mass., the son of Hezekiah Kemp. Anyone having information on either Timothy or Silas Kemp, please let me know. I'm always glad to share what I have. This is a major missing link in my quest to document all Kemp's in New England before the 1790 census. Bob Young, Secretary Kemp Family Association [email protected]

Have finally received Andrew's death certificate from Ohio Historical Society. So, looking for a connection. Here are the details: Andrew J. Kemp, b April 22, 1843, in Ohio, d. September 14, 1918, in Howard Twp., Knox Co., Ohio. M. September 5, 1868 to Eliza Mikesell. Eliza b. September 11, 1848 in Coschocton Co., Ohio, d. May 28, 1938, in Howard Twp., Knox Co., Ohio Andrew Kemp's Parents: William Kemp, b Between 1805-1823 in Ohio Matilda Parks, b Between 1805-1823 in Ohio Eliza Mikesell Parents: Jakob Mikesell, b. October 8, 1808, in Frederick Co., Maryland Sallie Shuss, b. October 23, 1810 in Pennsylvania Looking for connection to William Kemp and Matilda Parks. Mikesell genealogy well established. Wish I could say where in Ohio Andrew, William or Matilda were born, but death certificate just says, Ohio. Thanks Dr. Stephen R. von Hitritz in Richmond, VA

I am researching the KEMPS of early Essex Co Va: My ancestor, JOSEPH BURNETT (1703-1771) M. CLARA GATEWOOD daughter of RICHARD GATEWOOD b. ca 1694 who m. (by 1714) RACHEL KEMP daughter of RICHARD KEMP b 1670's d.1714 Essex Co Va and ELEANOR WILLIS (who married a Mr. Aldin after Richard's death.) son of MATTHEW KEMP(1650-1683) Middlesex England>Lancaster County, Va and wife Dorothy son of EDMUND KEMP who died in 1659, Lancaster Co, Va. Does anyone have connections with this line? Caroline Burnett Cook

Hi everyone, I am a new member to the list and am looking for possible ties to my family from Virginia. Here is my line going backward from my grandfather, most are from Carroll County, but Franklin County fits in too. James Martin Kemp b. 3/3/1892 d. 6/28/1972 m. Bessie Mary Norton WIlliam Shadrach Kemp b. abt 1857 m. Keturah Nicholas James R. Kemp b. abt 1833 m. Elizabeth Jennings William Kemp b. 11/24/1794 m. I believe Catherine Housman. In "Pioneer families of Franklin County" I believe he is listed as a son of Thomas Kemp. However the book lists his brother Walter as married to Catherine Howsman, and William as married to Arilda English. On the marriage license for James R. his parents are listed as William and what looks to be Catherine. If anyone can shed any light on this as to whether I am following my line correctly or have strayed. The license for James R. says he was born in Franklin County, but it is possible I have picked up an incorrect William as his father. Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to provide to a rookie. Howard E. Kemp, Jr.

On Fri, 29 May 1998 08:54:39 -0400, you wrote: >Greetings Norris... > > <snip> >Last year, I wrote an article for our newsletter, "The Kemp Files", on >this family, correcting all the lineages. A good number of sources were >cited as well. Thanks, Bob: To help counter this spreading of misinformation, I have setup a page at my web site called "Common Errors in our Family Genealogies". That page will be reached from my front page at: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/ In addition, I am adding "Research Sources, Notes, and Questions for each of my names. Under Family Histories. All of my New England names and the Kemp ancestry is under "Mom's Side". There I will put notes and questions about smaller issues that may not necessarily effect lineage, or lingering questions. You can reach that from my home page by Heritage > Family Histories > Mom's Side. I have setup a Kemp section, even though my immigrant only apparently only lived a few years in the Colonies before passing away and having one child. If you have other New England connections, you might find something of interest there for: Baldwin, Backus, Knight, Rogers, Spencer, Richardson, Tracy, George Partridge, Ralph Partridge (not related), Green, Carter, Kemp, Seabury, Knowlton Those of you who have web pages might think of a way you can counter these incorrect genealogy links that get started. Got to start trying to counter them somewhere. In fact, what I may do is to also list web pages in a table of web pages on a certain relationship to show which ones are wrong and right, or one or the other, as the case may be. Norris -- Silver Bullet <[email protected]> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/ ---------------------------------------

Greetings Norris... I am the "expert" for the Kemp Family Association on the Kemp's of New England. The only child of William and Elizabeth (Partridge) Kemp was a daughter, Patience. Due to the fact that older sources are being continually cited, erroneous information on this family continues to be perpetuated. Last year, I wrote an article for our newsletter, "The Kemp Files", on this family, correcting all the lineages. A good number of sources were cited as well. If you'll send me your regular snail mail address, I'd be happy to send a copy of this article to you. Bob Young, Secretary Kemp Family Association

On Thu, 28 May 1998 06:07:37 GMT, you wrote: >On Wed, 27 May 1998 04:38:34 GMT, you wrote: > >>Hi: >> >>Wonder if someone out there knows the REAL story about which Patience >>Kemp really married Samuel Saybury (if at all)on 11/09/1660 in >>Weymouth, Mass. <snip> > >Hi: > >I'm the person that asked the question. > >NEHGR, Vol 57, 1903, Pg 416-7, Author - Henry A. Parker: > >"Partridge - Kemp - Thacher - Seabury. Elizabeth, daughter of the Rev. >Ralph Partidge of Duxbury, was married first to William Kemp, who was <snip> Thanks to Dennis Partridge for additional info on this issue in the 1904 NEHGR. I have followed this lady (my ancestor!) to about a dozen web pages out there and none seem to have her lineage recorded, or if so, have it right! If you have a web page, you may want to re-evaluate where you have this lady, if she, or Elizabeth Partridge, or Samuel Seabury, are in your database. I've seen some sources of "Mayflower Gleanings" meaning that may be one place where the myth is being repeated. ________________ NEHGR April 1904, p. 101-107, discusses in depth this family line and the myths. The Laying of Two Genealogical Ghosts The final synopsis is this: "(1) Rev. Thomas Thacher and Elizabeth Partridge, his wife, had no daughter, Patience Thacher. (2) Elizabeth Partridge, dau. of Rev. Ralph Partridge, married 1st William Kemp, by whom she had a daughter, Patience Kemp, b. 11 May 1643. William Kemp d. previos to 23 Sep 1641, and hence subsequent to this date his widow was free to contract a second marriage; which in fact, she did, by marrying on 11 May 1643, Rev. Thomas Thacher, who subsequently, 2 January 1644-5, became the minister at Weymouth, MA, and remained there in that capacity until subsequent to the death, on 2 Jun 1664, of Elizabeth partridge his wife. Rev. Thomas Thacher was born in England 1 May 1620, and in 1643 was presumably about the same age as Elizabeth partridge, who like himself, was born in England (date of birth unknown), and came to this country 17 Nov 1636 with her father. Elizabeth Partridge, soon after her coming to this country, married first William Kemp, who had reached this country, previous to her arrival, 3 Jun 1635, on the ship James. Soon after his marriage William Kemp died, leaving but one child, Patience Kemp, and not leaving a son William Kemp, 2d, who never in reality existed at all. Elizabeth Partridge-Kemp, widow of the only William Kemp, shortly after her first husband's death, married on 11 May 1643, Rev. Thomas Thacher, and her daughter by her first husband, Patience Kemp, became the step-daughter of Rev. Thomas Thacher, and was received into his family, and brought up by him, and married from his home in Weymouth, MA, on 9 (or 16) Dec. 1660, to Samuel Saberry (Seabury), of Duxbury, MA. (3) Samuel Seabury did NOT marry Patience Kemp, dau. of William Kemp, 2d, (who never existed in the flesh), and of Patience Thacher (who also never existed), but married Patience Kemp, dau. of William Kemp, 1st, (the only William Kemp), and Elizabeth partridge, his wife, he being her first husband. (4) William Kemp, 2d, and Patience Thacher are two mythical indivduals, summoned into existence by early genealogists, in order that by their marriage they could give birth to a Patience Kemp, who was subsequently to marry Samuel Seabury. It was known beyond doubt that Samuel Seabury did marry a Patience Kemp, and so these hypothetical parents were manufactured for her." End Quote: Thanks for your support. Norris Taylor -- Silver Bullet <[email protected]> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/ ---------------------------------------

I have a SOLOMAN KEMP, b. abt 1812 in SC and married abt 1835 in Gwinnette Co., GA. Could this be GILLIA KEMP's brother? My Soloman first married Elizabeth Kile/Kyle. The family lived in Forsyth County, Ga.

On Wed, 27 May 1998 04:38:34 GMT, you wrote: >Hi: > >Wonder if someone out there knows the REAL story about which Patience >Kemp really married Samuel Saybury (if at all)on 11/09/1660 in >Weymouth, Mass. Hi: I'm the person that asked the question. I found this at the library today. Those of you carrying this lady in your databases may want to re-evaluate how you've got her placed. (Not that a 1903 article is the last word, but I found no other reference since to counter, but I was working with an index a couple years old.) NEHGR, Vol 57, 1903, Pg 416-7, Author - Henry A. Parker: "Partridge - Kemp - Thacher - Seabury. Elizabeth, daughter of the Rev. Ralph Partidge of Duxbury, was married first to William Kemp, who was of Duxbury, Jan 7, 1638/9; proposed freeman March 5, of the same year; and who died before Nov 2, 1641, when his widow Elizabeth was granted adminstration on his estate. By her first husband, William Kemp, she had Patience, her eldest daughter, who, November 16, 1660 (town record), was married to Samuel Seabury, physcian, of Duxbury. The widow Elizabeth (Partridge) Kemp was married May 11, 1643, (Thacher's Thacher Fam.) to his first wife and the mother of his children. See Plymouth Col. Rec., and, in particular, the grant of land to Samuel Seabury "son-in-law" of William Kemp; will of Rev. Ralph Partridge, (Register, Vol 47, Pg 279), compare diary of Rev. Peter Thacher (History of Milton, pg 279). A comparison of dates leaves no doubt of this family connection as stated." ______________ Note: I have seen web references to Patience being a daughter of Thomas Thatcher, then that daughter marrying William Kemp, Jr, having a Patience Kemp, and that daughter marrying Samuel Seabury. That connection is impossible and couldn't have happened, since Sam and Patience got married in 1660. I have seen references to a Patience (Thatcher) Kemp, structured as the child of Thatcher/Eliabeth above, but without showing the marriage of the daughter Patience to Samuel Seabury, attributed to "Mayflower Increasings, 1996 Edition". Whether the author of that 1996 book is merely repeating the error of previous works ignorant of the above article, or knew about the article, explored it, and formed a disagreement is I don't know. Norris -- Silver Bullet <[email protected]> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/ ---------------------------------------

GILLIA KEMP was born about 1806 in SC. She married JESSE BALL about 1822. Some of her children were born in Gwinnett Co., GA; names include: John Dixon (1824); Amanda CRAFT(1825- 1910); Abner C. (1827-1862); Rosanne Elizabeth Susan LINDLEY (1830-1906) Celia FOSTER (1834-1917); George Washington (1840-1859); Moses Jasper (1842-1896).. She may be the daughter of Solomon or Moses KEMP. The family moved to Randolph Co, AL in 1848.

Is there anybody out there on the list who are descended from the Kemps of Milton and Gravesend, Kent, England. They were Watermen on the Thames during the 17 and 1800's. regards, Peter Harrop, New Zealand.

Hi: Wonder if someone out there knows the REAL story about which Patience Kemp really married Samuel Saybury (if at all)on 11/09/1660 in Weymouth, Mass. This is primarily Plymouth Colony genealogy. I have seen some web pages, etc showing the Patience Kemp who married Sam Saybury was a child from William Kemp and Elizabeth Partridge. But, that doesn't seem to work as Elizabeth Partridge was actually married to Thomas Thatcher at the time. (Unless maybe Elizabeth married a Kemp before Thatcher and was widowed??) I have seen one web page that showed that Thomas Thatcher and Elizabeth Partridge had a daughter Patience in early late 1630's, early 1640's, and that daughter had a daughter who married William Kemp who married ole Sam Seabury. But, that doesn't work as she couldn't have been older than, say, eight years old at the oldest. I think I've seen a few other variations on this theme twisted around different directions and none make any sense. Who knows who the Patience Kemp really is that married Sam Seabury, or is the marriage record that they married a complete sham and some other lady had their seven children?? I am a descendant of this couple and would like for the real parents to please stand up! PS. I've also seen quite a few times where Patience (Thatcher) Kemp, showing as a daughter of Elizabeth (Partridge) Thatcher, is showing with the date of death of Patience (Kemp) Seabury, who died on 06/02/1664. At first blush, that would suggest that Patience was widowed and married ole George, and that Kemp was really her married name. Could that be what happened? Thanks for your support! Norris Taylor -- Silver Bullet <[email protected]> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/ ---------------------------------------

Hi everyone! I am looking for information on a John Holland KEMP b. 1872 d. 1940/TX (son of Jasper H. KEMP b.1825 d.1907 and Charity HERRING b. 1831 d.1876) married 1894 to Cinderella Amelia RAINBOLT, who was a Blackfoot Indian. John and Cinderella's daughter, Patience Valora KEMP b.1896/TX d.1975/TX was my g.grandmother. Does anyone else tie into or have information on this line? Thanks for your help! ____ Take care, Kerri http://pages.prodigy.com/SouthardFamily/home.htm "Love doesn't divide, it multiplies." Researching: (mine): DEARING*SMITH*HALL*BIRD*DOWNING* PATRICK (Irish)*KING*SPEARS*MABRY*BANKSTON*MCDONALD*PENSON*TUBB/S*BALLENTINE* HERRING*KEMP*RAINBOLT (Blackfoot)* OSBORNE*RICE*BURNETT*MUSE*ANDERSON*HARRISON/MORRISON/NARRIMORE* LEE (Cherokee)*WARD (Cherokee)* FRANKS*PERRY* (hubby's): SOUTHARD*SCOTT*GENSCH*WHITE* WHITEHALL*DANIELS*GEIGER

I use aol. Why does it tell me that your address http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/1926 does not exist? Rowe Young

[email protected] wrote: > > Subject: > > KEMP-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 28 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Looking for... [[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from KEMP-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Looking for... > Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:34:12 -0500 (EST) > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > Hello, > > I am looking for a Rosita Kemp that was married to a James Harvey Tullis. > Their son Oscar Kemp Tullis, b. 1861 was buried in Kosciusko County, > Indiana. It is rumored that Rosita and James had Oscar then left Indiana > leaving the boy with relatives. I need to find out what happened to James > and Rosita. Thanks. > > Jennifer > > ________________________________________ > Jennifer Tullis > http://php.iupui.edu/~jltinche/tincher.html > [email protected] > [email protected] > ________________________________________ Sorry, no information on these names.

Terry per your request dated 3-1-1998. I have a copy of the final account dated 24 Oct 1765 for John Kemp and it very plainly reads Mary KEMP administrator. Also he did not die in 1765, but prior to 7-8-1764 when his will was proven. Am currently trying to prove that this is John Conrad Kemp. Now some questions for you. How do you descend in this family? Also how do I get on the MDFREDER mailing lists. I am not too good on the internet use. But if you will tell me I can do it. Sally Kemp Hagins