Thanks, Jan: You're quite right, of course. However, the records I mentioned were the only Sarah KEMPs found in the IGI, four were christened at Portsea, the other two out of area at Brading and Selborne. The 1851 census gave Sarah's age and birthplace, but we cannot really deduce anything about her baptism records. I guess the first place to look is the marriage lines, which should give her father's name and occupation, as well as her age at marriage (would she lie there as well as to the census-taker?) The father's name could be William, Robert, James or George. Regards, Martin Willcocks Salt Lake City, UT, USA. P.S. I really appreciate the help I'm receiving from this list!

Hi to all you KEMPs out there. Betty and I (Allen) are looking forward to seeing and meeting a lot of you in Raleigh NC at the KEMP FAMILY REUNION Sept 22-24. Check the web page under REUNION for more information Allen Allen & Betty Johannes [email protected]

Also, Christening/Baptism could take place several years after birth. Sometimes whole families of various ages, were Baptised at the same time. If you are in the US and are reasonably close to a FHC, get a film for the year in question for Portesea and start searching. If you can find her birth record it should tell you her parents. Have you tried Familysearch.com on line? Happy Hunting! Jan Kelley Bellevue Washington USA [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Young <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 12:43 AM Subject: Re: Kemp's of Portsea > Howdy.... > > >>We know from the 1851 census that Sarah SQUIRE (married name) was 47 > which would put her birthdate between 1 Apr 1803 and 31 Mar 1804 so she > could not have been chr. before 1803 (which rules out a Sarah KEMP of > Brading Hampshire) and her birthplace is shown as Portsea (which also > rules out a Sarah KEMP of Selborne). > > Keep in mind that the ages given in the census records (both UK and US) > are the ages that the individuals gave to the census taker. It is not > uncommon > for a person to "age" only 8 years, or over 12 years, between censuses. > > Bob Young, Secretary > Kemp Family Association >

Is anyone familiar with KEMP's from LYNN.MASS about 1920-1940 time period ? bob in calif

Hello all: I'm interested in tracking down ancestry of Sarah KEMP of Portsmouth, England who married Edmund SQUIRE on 8 Jan 1826 at St. Mary's Portsea. There are several Sarah KEMPs listed in the IGI, but of those born in Portsea, there appear to be four: chr. 16 Jun 1805 (parents: George & Sarah); chr. 26 Jul 1805 (parents James & Elizabeth); chr. 31 Oct 1806 (parents Robert & Hannah); and chr. 30 Sep 1808 (parents William & Jane). We know from the 1851 census that Sarah SQUIRE (married name) was 47 which would put her birthdate between 1 Apr 1803 and 31 Mar 1804 so she could not have been chr. before 1803 (which rules out a Sarah KEMP of Brading Hampshire) and her birthplace is shown as Portsea (which also rules out a Sarah KEMP of Selborne). Does anyone on the list have any connections to any of the Sarahs listed above or to another Sarah KEMP born 1803-4 in Portsea, Hampshire England? Martin Willcocks Salt Lake City, UT, USA (researching CLEMENTS, CONN, KEMP, SQUIRE, WILLCOCKS in Hampshire, England.)

Howdy.... >>We know from the 1851 census that Sarah SQUIRE (married name) was 47 which would put her birthdate between 1 Apr 1803 and 31 Mar 1804 so she could not have been chr. before 1803 (which rules out a Sarah KEMP of Brading Hampshire) and her birthplace is shown as Portsea (which also rules out a Sarah KEMP of Selborne). Keep in mind that the ages given in the census records (both UK and US) are the ages that the individuals gave to the census taker. It is not uncommon for a person to "age" only 8 years, or over 12 years, between censuses. Bob Young, Secretary Kemp Family Association

Would love to correspond with anyone who has information pertaining to the descendants of these two. Glenda Dinwiddie-Ripple

Seeking any information about a William Kemp who was from England and died at Battle of Stillwater (NY) in 1777? All I know about him is that his daughter, Anna (or Joannah) Kemp, married Samuel McClure of Goffstown, NH. They were the parents of Robert Spear McClure, 1799-1881, Groton, NH. I am happy to share with info from him forward to the present. I hope you can help; I am dead-ended with Wm. Kemp and would like to know about his parents and place of birth. I am descended from the McClures of NH. Thanks

Just recieved the death cert on my wife's great grandmother, Barbara (H)elena Peters. Shows her born in Carbondale, Ohio, which I believe is in Athens Co. Her parents are Henry Peters and Anna Kistler, Henry b. in Germany, Anna in France. They lived in Danville, Knox Co. Barbara b. Oct 30, 1872, d. Dec 17, 1921, m. Alva B. Kemp. Two childen, Clarence and Urban. When Barbara died, family was living in Loudonville. Barbara buried at St. Lukes, Danville, Knox Co. Anyone out there working this family? Would like to determine siblings of Barbara Helena Peters and death buriel info on Henry and Anna. Steve von Hitritz in Richmond, VA

I am trying to discover more information on my great great grandmother Eliza Jane Kemp. She was born in Maryland about 1834 , according to census data. On March 3, 1853 she became the second wife of Joseph Pratt in Jay County, Indiana. The family lived in Minnesota and Nebraska. On September 7, 1921 she died in Orange County, California. I do not know the parentage of Eliza Jane. Any help would be appreciated. Phyllis Chaussee

In a message dated 2/11/00 9:56:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << I am trying to discover more information on my great great grandmother Eliza Jane Kemp. She was born in Maryland about 1834 , according to census data. On March 3, 1853 she became the second wife of Joseph Pratt in Jay County, Indiana. The family lived in Minnesota and Nebraska. On September 7, 1921 she died in Orange County, California. I do not know the parentage of Eliza Jane. Any help would be appreciated. Phyllis Chaussee >> Phyllis....I won't be any help as I keep SAYING I'm going to get into this, but I'm missing a whole generation of Kemps from Frederick, MD and that's where my grandfather was born. Do you know where in Maryland? Sally Hagins may have the information. Jeanie

This was on a British mailing list and a friend forwarded it to me - they are not my Kemps, perhaps someone recognizes them? I have the following information which I think you probably already have. The reference in { } refer to parish register no./page no./entry no. George Kemp married Jane Albury, both being of Selborne, were married 22 February 1821. Witnesses: Andrew Knight, Timothy Loe. [Selborne PR10/15/44] Their children baptised at Selborne were: Charles baptised 16 July 1821 at Selborne. Father- labourer. [Selborne PR7/27/212] George baptised 26 February 1823 at Selborne. Father- labourer. [Selborne PR7/33/259] John baptised 22 April 1826 at Selborne. Father- labourer. [Selborne PR7/43/344] James baptised 3 November 1833 at Selborne. Father- labourer. [Selborne PR7/74/591] Eliza baptised 14 August 1836 at Selborne. Father- labourer. [Selborne7/84/671] Hori baptised 23 June 1839 at Selborne. Father- labourer. [Selborne PR7/96/764] Searched to 1839 At 20:37 31/01/00 +0000, you wrote:>Re recent enquiries on Kemps I am interested in any connections to the >following, >Our Kemps are as follows:- Thomas m Elizabeth Piper 2/7/1695 Heyshott >Sussex > Richard bap 1/5/1698 Heyshott m Elizabeth Jackson 5/7/1743 East >Dean > John bap 2/8/1751 m Anne Hill 29/1/1772 East Marden Sussex moved >to Newton Valence, Hants c 1773 > John 21/1/1775 Newton Valence m Hannah Beacher 2/12/1795 >Selborne, Hants > George 21/1/1796 Selborne m Jane Albury 22/2/1821 Selborne > Eliza 14/8/1836 Selborne m James (K)neller, Selborne 27/11/1853 > >The (K)neller connection is as follows. > Henry b c1740 Medstead m (1) Mary ? c 1760 d Mar 1767 Medstead >Children Sarah bap 12/8/1762 Henry bap 23/11/1764 both at Medstead. > (2) Mary Hall 29/10/1767 Medstead d >21/7/1785 E Worldham >Child Thomas b 26/1/1770 Hartley Maudit > > Henry m Anstey (nee Leakey) Stacey 9/8/1801 West Worldham >Children Elizabeth 7/10/1801 West Worldham. > Harry/Henry 3/10/1802 West Worldham > > Harry m (1) Harriet Heath 11/1/1826 Altoin (2) Mary Lintot >East Worldham 22/9/1844 (3) Dinah (nee Bicknell) White 4/8/1866 >Selborne > >Children Mary 4/1826, Henry 9/1827, Ellen 1/1830, James 6/1832, George >15/2/1835, Harriet 1/1837, Thomas 12/1843 >James m Eliza Kemp above >particularly any information on Kemps in Newton Valence, Selborne or >dare I say it Sussex > >In addition rumour has it that there is a Windybank connection to the >(K)nellers > >Obviously there is more detail if you are interested and we would be >grateful if you have any connection, any help appreciated. > All the best > Trish (nee Kneller) and Rod > Ashton >

Here is Bobbie's addition to her message about William and Mary Kemp mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobbie <[email protected]> To: Mary Brockmeyer <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 7:39 AM Subject: Re: WILLIAM R KEMP and MARY ANN RANDALL > Sorry. I don't know where they were married or where they were born. > Lucy was born in Erie, Pa and died in Rochester, NY. She is the only one > that I have extensive info on. > Bobbie > > Mary Brockmeyer wrote: > > > Where were William and Mary married? > > > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bobbie <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 7:03 AM > > Subject: WILLIAM R KEMP and MARY ANN RANDALL > > > > > Searching for William R Kemp, b. 1835. d. 3-2-1887. married Mary Ann > > > Randall, b. 3/2/1845. d. 4/24/1919. > > > CHILDREN: > > > Sarah 1865 > > > Martha 1867 > > > William R 1870 > > > Lucy 1872 > > > Anna Eliza 1873 > > > Robert W 1877 > > > Alfred H 1880 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== KEMP Mailing List ==== > > > Have you visited the KFA Web page lately? > > > http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/1926 > > > > > > > >

Where were William and Mary married? Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobbie <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 7:03 AM Subject: WILLIAM R KEMP and MARY ANN RANDALL > Searching for William R Kemp, b. 1835. d. 3-2-1887. married Mary Ann > Randall, b. 3/2/1845. d. 4/24/1919. > CHILDREN: > Sarah 1865 > Martha 1867 > William R 1870 > Lucy 1872 > Anna Eliza 1873 > Robert W 1877 > Alfred H 1880 > > > > ==== KEMP Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the KFA Web page lately? > http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/1926 > >

Searching for William R Kemp, b. 1835. d. 3-2-1887. married Mary Ann Randall, b. 3/2/1845. d. 4/24/1919. CHILDREN: Sarah 1865 Martha 1867 William R 1870 Lucy 1872 Anna Eliza 1873 Robert W 1877 Alfred H 1880

Do you have these? Do you know where they came from? Descendants of Joseph Vernon Kemp Generation No. 1 1. JOSEPH VERNON1 KEMP was born 1871, and died February 19, 1948. He married JULIA JOHNSON. Notes for JOSEPH VERNON KEMP: Grave 4 Kemp lot. There is a Howard Kemp, marrying an Eveline R. Taylor on June 5, 1873, in Camden County Marriages, Book B, p. 95. KEMP - on August 16, 1916, at Darby PA, George Henry Kemp, Sr., aged 60 years. Relatives and friends of the family are invited to attend the funeral services on Saturday, August 19, at 1pm, at the Mount Zion A.M.E. Church, Darby PA. Interment at Eden Cemetery.- Death notices, Philadelphia Public Ledger, August 1916.- [email protected] Maybe not connected, but here is a Maryland Kemp who was drafted in World War I: Clarence Benjamin Kemp Born: 20 Mar 1894 Ethnicity: White Born: Maryland Drafted From: Caroline County, Maryland Child of JOSEPH KEMP and JULIA JOHNSON is: 2. i. RAYMOND CHRISTOPHER2 KEMP, b. September 19, 1906, 894 N. Farson St., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; d. June 03, 1988, Barrington, New Jersey 08007. Generation No. 2 2. RAYMOND CHRISTOPHER2 KEMP (JOSEPH VERNON1) was born September 19, 1906 in 894 N. Farson St., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and died June 03, 1988 in Barrington, New Jersey 08007. He married ELLEN R. SOMMERS, daughter of JOHN SOMMERS and SARAH BROGAN. She was born September 22, 1906 in Camden, NJ, and died November 01, 1964 in Barrington, New Jersey. Notes for RAYMOND CHRISTOPHER KEMP: SSDI Search gives SSN 147-03-0886 Issued in NJ before 1951 b. 19 Sept 1905, d. 3 Jun 1988 Barrington, NJ 08007 Date of Birth, on SSN application reads, date of birth = September 19, 1906... not 1905.- VES June 8, 1988 is death date, according to "New St. Mary's Church", wherein Raymond is buried. Grave 6 Kemp lot. WWI Here is Raymond's original SSN application, as I transcribe it: SSN147-03-0886 Raymond Christopher Kemp 1014 White Horse Pike Oaklyn, New Jersey Age at last birthday: 30 Date of Birth: September 19, 1906 Place of Birth: 894 N. Farson St. Phila, PA Father: Joseph Vernon Kemp Mother: Julia Johnson Application Date: December 2nd 1936 First worked for Joseph Patrick Cunningham. Here is a fantastic letter, and all true, that I got the night I got the above SSN info... -VES Vince: Joseph Patrick Cunningham was an officer in the Cunningham Piano Co. and Farson Street was in West Philadelphia, flanking 50th Street, right near the piano company. If Raymond later worked for a furniture store, then, in all likelihood he worked for Cunningham as a cabinetmaker, or, possibly, as a finisher. Hope this helps! Best, Paul Schopp [email protected] The above letter may even explain how Uncle Raymond met his wife to be, since my father, Vincent Depaul Summers, Ellen R. Sommers' brother, married Raymond. My dad for a time worked for Cunningham.- VES ----- A Private Communication on May 27, 1999 from Jim Ryan, who once owned the building between Uncle Raymond's "shack" and Victor's liquor store: The property may have been the one two doors away from Victors, as it is a small building with a large yard. That building still stands. ----- That same day, Jim Ryan also posted: I was born &raised in West Philly. Farson is a tiny street, lying between 50th& 51st streets. From Thompson St. to Kershaw St. It may be the 800 bl north. It's near 50th & Parkside. The only business I can remember at 50th & Pks., would be a coal & ice yard, it delivered to the local neighborhood. [[email protected]] The correct name of the street is Farson and it is in West Philadelphia near Our Mother of Sorrows Catholic Church. Also adjacent to the Old Cathedral Cemetery.- Sophia Crocker: [email protected] Notes for ELLEN R. SOMMERS: A wonderfully kind, plump, black-haired woman. She gave me a special gift of a very thick Van Nostrand Science Book as a kid. Once my mother, Adele Summers, insisted we stop and buy a lobster for her, while we were at the shore, since we knew she didn't have long to live. Vincent E. Summers 6-30-98 SSN 147-03-886 (missing a digit?) This number is listed by the funeral director. If you put a 0 in front of the 886, you get Raymond's SSN! It appears she did not have her own number. Buried November 5th New St. Mary's Catholic Church Cemetery Bookkeeper at Lakeland General Hospital. Residence 114 Woodland Ave., Barrington, NJ Remarks --" Kemp. On Nov 1, 1964 Ellen Summers wife of Raymond Kemp. Relatives and Friends are invited to the funeral on Thursday... Viewing Wednesday Eve." Camden Courier Post Obituary: MRS. ELLEN R. KEMP Requiem Mass for Mrs. Ellen R. Kemp of 114 Woodland ave., Barrington, will be Thursday at 9:30 a.m. in St. Francis de Sales Church, Barrington. Friends will meet at 8 o'clock in the John A. Healey Funeral Home, 9 White Horse pk., where they may also call tomorrow night. Burial will be in New St. mary's Cemetery, Bellmawr. Mrs. Kemp died Sunday in her home. She was a bookkeeper at Lakeland General Hospital. Surviving are her husband, Raymond, a daughter, Mrs. Sarah Schwinn of Barrington, her parents, Mr. and Mrs. Frank J. McManus of Philadelphia; three brothers, Paul Summers of Barrington, John of Palmyra, Vincent of Haddonfield; a sister, Mrs. Loretto Fox of Camden, and one grandchild. Notes on the above: Loretta, not Loretto. Paul Sommers, not Paul Summers, Frank J. McManus was not the original father, John John Sommers was the father, and was dead. More About ELLEN R. SOMMERS: Cause of Death: Stomach Cancer Fact 1: Died of Stomach Cancer Child of RAYMOND KEMP and ELLEN SOMMERS is: i. SARAH3 KEMP, m. (JACK?) SCHWINN. Notes for SARAH KEMP: Named for Sarah Elizabeth Brogan. There was a Heather Hagaman, born/died 1986. This may have been an illegitimate birth. She is likely the one listed as Heather M. Schwinn.- VES. Thank you! Vince Summers

WOW!!!!! It's almost here and no glitches yet. In a few minutes it will be midnight in Hungary. Are there any KEMPs there HAPPY NEW YEAR Looking forward to Raleigh, North Carolina, September 22-24. Need all the KEMPs in the USA --- and from overseas. Hope to have a hotel selected for approval within the next week PEACE Betty and Allen Allen & Betty Johannes [email protected]

Just recently ancestor.com had a free database of immigrants to Canada in which there were 6 records of Kemps as follows: (Part Two) James 1782-83 muster rolls and paylists of members of the King's Rangers; Major Rogers, Capt. Pritchards and Capt. Ruiters Co., transcribed from documents in the National Archives of Candda Joseph same lists John Sr. 1802 3rd township Roger's Corps; troops, loyalists formerly victualled at Kingston settled at Cataraqui and vicinity at the Peace 1783 James 1802 same John Jr. 1802 same David 1821 list of Balfron families admitted on the government grant--Scottish families on from the ship "David" Greenock, May 19, 1821. Settlers in Upper Canada. Ten lists. Maybe some of your family? Helen

My gg grandfather Joseph Kemp (1799-1850) and son James (1821-1901) had mining and homesteading interests in Wisconsin. Researchers overseas cannot confirm lineage without a place name or parish. Based on logical chronology and name repetitions I have constructed a family tree back to 1750 and down through my Irish Nalty family in the late 1900's. Will share info with anyone interested and hope for confirmation or validation of my findings.

Allen Johannes ([email protected]), the KFA 2000 Reunion Co-chair, is pleased to announce that the Reunion will take place September 22-24, 2000 in Raleigh, North Carolina. Additional details to follow ASAP. When NC was announced as a reunion site, we had many members who live in the area volunteer to help. Allen (who does not live in NC) could certainly use help from those in the area, even if it is just checking a name in the phone book. Please email Allen at [email protected] and volunteer. Linda Dolby KFA Web Mistress